Patriots avoid roughing penalty on Clay Matthews-type hit

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The competition committee said in a statement issued by NFL executive vice president of football operations Troy Vincent a week ago that it would make no changes to roughing the passer or emphasis. If that’s the case, then Clay Matthews has even more questions after two Patriots landed with their body weight on Andrew Luck on Thursday night.

It appears that indeed officials have altered what they are ruling roughing the passer.

Officials called only five roughing the passer penalties in 15 games in Week Four after calling 34 in 48 games the first three weeks.

In the first quarter Thursday night, Patriots defensive players Trey Flowers and Patrick Chung crushed Luck for a 10-yard loss. Both landed on Luck with their body weight, though there was no “second act” of “lifting and driving.”

“The hit on Luck would have been a foul in the first three weeks of the season,” FOX rules analyst Mike Pereira, the NFL’s former head of officiating, tweeted. “The defender did try to break his fall at the end. I am happy that is not being called. The conference call with the competition committee has made a difference.”

Matthews, of course, had three penalties for roughing the passer in the first three weeks. Although he was not fined for any of them, the one against Vikings quarterback Kirk Cousins negated an interception that would have iced a Packers’ victory in Week Two. Instead, the game ended in a tie.

Colts linebacker Najee Goode was called for a roughing penalty on Tom Brady in the second quarter, but it was for a shot to Brady’s head.

83 responses to “Patriots avoid roughing penalty on Clay Matthews-type hit

  1. Just ANOTHER example of the BOGUS unbalanced nfl officiating
    that favors tom brady and the new england patriots.

  2. Patriots avoid roughing penalty on Clay Matthews-type hit

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    Imagine that!

  3. Pats fan here: I thought for sure that when our guys pancaked Andrew Luck, it was roughing the passer, full body weight from 2 guys onto the qb. Not a peep out of the officials or the commentators.

  4. Rusty, replay showed Refs cheated Pats out of a rushing TD on 2nd down. Brady still scores on 3rd down. Please explain how that fits your theory.

  5. Colts defense is awful. Getting shooked out of their shoes. Gonna belong night for colts and also the hater patrol on this site

  6. They just sacked the guy, tough for three people not to land on someone together. The difference between landing on a QB and hitting them in the helmet is way more obvious as well.

  7. And yet Pats fans continue to incessantly whine that their team is unfairly treated. Give me a break!

  8. Rusty, Hoculi Jr has given the Colts two 1st downs on very favorable spots and let the tackle grab and holdFlowers when he went by him like a parked car. Must be just part of the Pats-Ref Conspiracy.

  9. ninefingers9 says:
    I love that Matthews now owns that… The Clay Matthews Hit
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    All the irony because of the rodgers rule.

  10. Jeez. So many conspiracies. Maybe one team is you know playing a lot better than other team

  11. They wrapped their arms around his body and fell on him. Oh noes! Oh noes! The dirty patriots!

    Wow the haters are a bunch of cry babies.

  12. carloswlassiter says:
    October 4, 2018 at 9:54 pm
    So the guys in here think that tackle on Luck should be RTP? Is that the league you want to watch?
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    It’s the league we’re left to deal with. 😦

  13. straighcashhomey says:

    October 4, 2018 at 9:52 pm

    Patriots are so much better. It’s that simple. Teams are not even close.

    Exactly man. That’s why they are 4 and…oh wait.

  14. Bill Belichick was asked about the league rule adjustments in the pre season I believe, and literally stated that the Patriots were never teaching tackling that way to begin with. That Luck sack in the first quarter is just proof

  15. For crying out loud, they didn’t fly in, lift and whack him to the ground body slamming him, they both stood him up and pushed him back several yards and then one of the three stumbled and they all fell over in a heap. That is not dirty. Y’all being salty.

  16. The Colts suck. And McDaniels deserves another raise. Those receivers always get wide open. It’s amazing.

  17. #The-Best-Fans-in-the-NFL says:
    October 4, 2018 at 10:20 pm
    The Clay Matthews roughing call against Kirk Cousins cost the Packers the game.
    Just sayin’………
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    The same call was made on Kendricks before halftime that cost the Vikings 3 points in a game that went to overtime. Just sayin’…………

  18. Liberalsruineverything says:
    The same call was made on Kendricks before halftime that cost the Vikings 3 points in a game that went to overtime. Just sayin’…………
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    The Packers were up by 7 at the time and had intercepted Cousins. The 15 yards put Minn into Packer territory and then scored the bizarre TD. Good catch, great concentration. But it shouldn't of happened. Try again

  19. #The-Dumbest-Fans-in-the-NFL says:
    October 4, 2018 at 10:49 pm
    Liberalsruineverything says:
    The same call was made on Kendricks before halftime that cost the Vikings 3 points in a game that went to overtime. Just sayin’…………
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    The Packers were up by 7 at the time and had intercepted Cousins. The 15 yards put Minn into Packer territory and then scored the bizarre TD. Good catch, great concentration. But it shouldn't of happened. Try again
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    Same call at different times. Missed kicks by a rookie kicker ruined the game. Not a bad call. Bad rule yes, bad call, no.

  20. Better than average TNF. Colts just gave up a td to go down 2 scores but they played their butts off tonight down a lot of guys. Refs were the refs good & bad calls for both team so leave it out.

  21. Im glad the officiating talked the roughing the passer rules out through the week and this double sack was not flagged because it was a thing a beauty and definitely belongs in football. Nice play.

  22. VIP on the swole says:
    October 4, 2018 at 11:41 pm
    If that would have been called I would have been done. There is no way to reasonably call that penalty.
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    It was called. Just never on your team. (Packers week 2, Browns week 1)

  23. Liberalsruineverything says:
    October 4, 2018 at 9:11 pm
    Whoa whoa whoa. If you’re talking about a real Matthews hit it would be a spear to the chest, a head shot or diving at their knees going out of bounds.

    Its bad enough they troll Packer threads…

  24. The Aaron Rodgers rule sure has messed up the refs.
    Rodgers gets hurt, new rule.
    Matthews complains about the new rule and the rule isn’t enforced after 3 weeks.
    Now there is complaining that the Rodgers Rule isn’t enforced.

    This might be the biggest contribution to the game Aaron Rodgers gives the NFL.

  25. It doesn’t change the fact that the Packers were robbed of a victory over the Vikings by that b.s. call against Matthews, which the rules committee has finally come out and said should never have been flagged.
    If the Packers miss winning a playoff position by 1 game, it will make that call even more horrendous.
    The only good that came out of Matthews getting flagged for those totally clean hits on Cousins and Smith is that it angered so many players and fans that it looks like common sense might prevail and they’ll stop ruining the game by calling these stupid penalties.

  26. I’m the first to admit that we always get help from the refs. Cheating Goodell doesn’t pay them as much as Kraft does.

  27. thebirdofprey says:
    October 4, 2018 at 9:16 pm
    That Colts pass rusher grazed Bradys helmet and it was roughing the passer.

    At first glance I thought it shouldn’t have been a call but it is consistent with the rule and other plays recently but the thing is Goode was out of control. They won’t cut you slack if you’re flying through the air.

  28. The Patriot haters showing their utter ignorance again. They were playing Xbox in the basement when Bill Polian was getting the rules changed after the 2003 season AFC Champ destruction of Manning’s receivers. Or how about jumping the line to block a kick? Or how about confusing idiot Harabaugh with eligible tackles? Yup…all legal at the time but pissy jealous owners bitched and got their anti-Patriot rule changes. And yet the Patriots KEEP winning…

  29. frodoftw7 says:
    October 4, 2018 at 11:22 pm
    Lol remember that game when the Pats had 1 penalty and it was on special teams. *
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    Yeah, that was an amazing game…. it’s pretty cool to see a well coached disciplined team play to it’s full potential…..they don’t fumble the ball much either compared to other teams….. hard work & focusing on fundamentals is what separates them from the competition….. having a everchsnging game plan & smart players that are put in situations that best showcase their individual talents is what allows them to be the best TEAM on the field most every week…. couple that with the greatest coach/QB tandem in the history of the NFL & you get the best product on the field….. kind of DEFLATING for all those fans of other teams isn’t it??!!??
    Go Pats!!!!

  30. I thought for sure that the flag was coming out on that one, but the refs love the Patriots, according to some whiners on here. The other thing that surprised me was the praise that Buck and Aikman were heaping on Kraft, Brady, and the Patriots. They have NEVER hidden their disdain for them like they did last night. Am I the only one who noticed it?

  31. Of course they did, and to add to that, Colts linebacker Najee Goode Swiped brady’s face mask and was called for the penalty for roughing the passer.
    Last Sunday, a Titans defender clubbed Wentz in the face and that was not called at all. Officials do officiate games differently based on the players involved.

  32. GenXJ says:
    October 4, 2018 at 9:25 pm
    ninefingers9 says:
    I love that Matthews now owns that… The Clay Matthews Hit
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    All the irony because of the rodgers rule.

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    Only viking fans call it that.

    Does The great Anthony Barr even play anymore? I mean when we do see him he’s jogging behind a guy strolling into the endzone.

    Forever immortalized as the guy who screwed up the game because he was late getting to Rodgers.

    Funny how everything for Vikings and their fans revolves around the Packers.

  33. I was expecting a flag to come out, but I did notice that none of the guys involved in the sack went beyond trying to run through the tackle and fall with him to the ground. The implication here is that they may be more worried about launching toward the quarterback to add more power impact to the tackle or throwing the QB unnecessarily hard to the ground (typically releasing as thrown down rather than falling with him).

    The avoidable hits to the head are going to be called and it’s going to annoy fans because it’s more about trying to adjust how players behave to prevent the avoidable contact to the head.

    There’s a feeling that the Patriots seem to get all the calls, yet Goodell and the Patriots have some long term animosity from Deflategate. In this case, I feel like it may just be that the Patriots dug into how these rules were being called and identified what triggered the call. While weight did land on Luck, no individual player went beyond the necessary force to bring him down to the ground.

  34. carloswlassiter says:
    October 4, 2018 at 9:54 pm
    So the guys in here think that tackle on Luck should be RTP? Is that the league you want to watch?
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    For the first month of the season, everyone hated those “bodyweight” RTP calls. They were ridiculous and were making the game unwatchable. Last night, that all changed because the Patriots were involved. Now, all those people did a 180 and are upset when those RTP calls aren’t made.

  35. “doctorrustbelt says:
    October 4, 2018 at 9:05 pm
    Just ANOTHER example of the BOGUS unbalanced nfl officiating
    that favors tom brady and the new england patriots.”

    In what delusional world do you live…. or do you just NOT watch the games and comment on headlines???

  36. I call bulls—. Its clear that these rules will NEVER come to play when its a gaytriots home game regularseason and when they get a home game in the postseason its gonna cost the opposing team games smh

  37. The point spread was Patriots -9 or -10. The officials manipulate the games people, wake up!

  38. Matthews drove his body weight into the QB (I would say intentionally). The two Pats defenders fell on the QB as they tackled him and didn’t pile drive him. Big difference.

  39. It’s called consistency in officiating, sorry the Pats homers can’t see that. I will make it as simple as I can for you Chowd’s:

    See if your QB has a guy brush his helmet and that gets called as RTP, then two guys landing on the other QB SHOULD be called. That’s all.

    BTW, it did not affect the outcome of the game. The Colts D could not stop a Pop Warner offense.

  40. C’mon now. The rule is that a defender cannot land with his full body weight on the QB. A defender. The Patriots, figured out that two guys was a loophole. Bill instructed the team, 1 guy, weight off, 2 guys, pile on! Genius.

  41. What really bothers me even more about the bogus penalties called on Clay Matthews for landing on Cousins and Smith is the lowering the helmet rule is not being called at all. In last night’s game it was clearly a penalty which should have been called on the Patriots RB as he was being tackled, but it wasn’t. And I don’t even remember ever seeing it called on an offensive player. Yet that was a point of interest and we were all told it was going to be enforced. Well, the officials are totally ignoring it on the offense and even the defense.
    And for those of you calling the body weight rule the Aaron Rodgers rule, you are wrong. The rule has been on the books for a few years, but it only came to light when Rodgers was hurt.
    It’s amazing to me that the NFL makes millions (make that billions, really) of dollars for the owners and players. Because they can’t seem to get even the simplest of things right. Look at the catch rule and how screwed up that has been. We still don’t know what a catch is, do we?

  42. It actually has little to do with Clay Matthews and more to do with the ref’s trying to hand the Vikings a game. As hard as they tried, the Vikings didn’t win the game. And as karma would have, they haven’t won since and this week isn’t looking good either.

  43. Should have been a penalty according to their own rules, without a doubt. Knew it as soon as I saw it.

    Wasn’t going to make the difference in the game, folks. Sorry.

  44. Boo hoo hoo, the refs favor the Patriots. That’s why they always win. The league, over the years, has consistently shown they love the Pats and want them to win.

    Do you people ever even listen to yourselves? Try making some sense.

  45. Pats fans. Welcome to the wonderful whiny hypocritical world of Packers fans.

    You should try having to live in Wisconsin. It’s ever so much worse listening to this drivel on a daily basis.

    I hope you didn’t have a coach or player die recently, packers fans think the death of someone is hilarious to make fun of.

    Most packers fans remind me of Deniro in the movie The Fan. Psychopaths..

  46. bradygirl12 says:
    October 5, 2018 at 8:13 am
    I thought for sure that the flag was coming out on that one, but the refs love the Patriots, according to some whiners on here. The other thing that surprised me was the praise that Buck and Aikman were heaping on Kraft, Brady, and the Patriots. They have NEVER hidden their disdain for them like they did last night. Am I the only one who noticed it?
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    I definitely noticed how much praise there was for the Patriots. If I were a Patriots fan, would have loved it. Not being a Patriots fan, thought it was weird and over the top. Seemed like a hometown broadcast with better production.

  47. billtetley53 says:
    October 5, 2018 at 11:42 am
    Pats fans. Welcome to the wonderful whiny hypocritical world of Packers fans.

    You should try having to live in Wisconsin. It’s ever so much worse listening to this drivel on a daily basis.

    I hope you didn’t have a coach or player die recently, packers fans think the death of someone is hilarious to make fun of.

    Most packers fans remind me of Deniro in the movie The Fan. Psychopaths..

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    You should objectively go re-read your posts.

    Its that bad…..

  48. What concerns me most right now is that it’s standard practice for running backs to lower their head to drive through imminent contact, as Michel did last night. That should change, for safety, but also for fairness, because defenders get called for lowering their helmet into contact. Defenders are at a massive disadvantage.

    Make running backs play heads up, just like defenders, then all players will be in a better position to absorb contact and limit injuries.

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