Mike Zimmer concerned about Kirk Cousins’ fumbles

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Vikings quarterback Kirk Cousins has thrown the ball well this year, but there’s one thing he still needs to clean up, and it’s the same thing that has plagued him throughout his career: fumbles.

Cousins has fumbled six times this season and lost five of them. Since he became a full-time starter before the 2015 season, Cousins has fumbled 37 times and lost 16 of them. Both of those totals are the most in the NFL over the last four years.

I’m concerned about all the fumbles. We’ve got to do a better job,” Vikings coach Mike Zimmer said, via ESPN. “I think the two times, the two that I remember that he fumbled, both times guys were coming from behind him. He’s got to, when he starts moving up in the pocket, he has to be ready to put the ball [away], so we’ll address that.”

Cousins has been trying to address it throughout his career. So far, he hasn’t fixed it.

82 responses to “Mike Zimmer concerned about Kirk Cousins’ fumbles

  1. “Cousins has been trying to address it throughout his career. So far, he hasn’t fixed it.”
    He’s in Minnesota now; we’re always fixing something.

  2. If he hasn’t been able to improve on it to this point in his career, odds are that he never will. It’s a negative feature of his game.

  3. The Bills only won because of his 3 fumbles deep in the Vikes own territory. The only other game where it potentially cost us is the late fumble while driving to tie the Rams. He definitely needs to clean that up. He has taken some strip sacks where he could have easily of thrown the ball away. Better OL protection will help a lot in that aspect as well.

  4. 84 million guaranteed dollars later, from the most prolific fumbler in the NFL since 2014, and now you are concerned?

  5. Cousins is having a great year and as always his team is not in first place and no guarantee of playoffs. Good news is fumbles aren’t looked at nearly as severely as interceptions for QB’s so statistically he looks great.

  6. I don’t know why we put emphasis on interceptions. Should just be one qb stat for turnovers with fumbles lost. All turnovers count and hurt the team. Some qbs fumble as much as the throw picks.

  7. Better line play would help. Cousins doesn’t seem to be able to sense the pressure like other QB’s but he should able to recognize that he’s been in the pocket too long and take off running. There’s been a few times this year where he had good protection but he couldn’t find anyone open, yet he stayed in the pocket and was eventually sacked. He needs to have a better internal clock that tells him to get out of Dodge if nothing is open

  8. QB fumbles are directly related to hand size, the same as it is in slapping a ball out of someone’s hands in basketball. Cousin’s hands aren’t that small but they’re 1/2 inch smaller than guys known for rarely fumbling like Favre, Brees, and Wilson.

  9. defscottyb says:
    October 20, 2018 at 1:31 pm
    He used to do that alot with the Redskins. Good qb but no pocket presence to avoid strip sacks.
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    Bad pocket presence lol? No. It’s the exact opposite. QB’s with no pocket presence always panic and run away from pressure (ala Christian Ponder). QB’s with good pocket presence tend to stay in the pocket a little too long so they can make it all the way through their progressions. Kirk has awesome pocket presence which allows him to stay in there longer and deliver great passes under pressure. Reminds me a lot of Daunte Culpepper before he blew his knee out. Not many QB’s have the mental fortitude to stay in there that long and deliver strikes. He knows he is going to take hits and he stays in there anyway. I hope he keeps doing what he’s been doing even if it means a few fumbles. As of this article he has 12 TDs with only 3 INTs and a QB rating of 102.7

  10. Daunte Culpepper led the league in fumbles in 2004 when he threw 39 TDs and 11 INTs.

    Most people still thought he should have beat Peyton Manning for MVP that season.

  11. Here’s something slightly interesting that will affect all QBs the same… if at all. I recently heard a couple of the talking heads (can’t remember which ones) saying they believe strip-sacks will become more common with the new QB protection rules in place. Their reasoning behind it was that defenders will be concentrating, and training, more on trying to knock the ball out instead of trying to knock the QB out.

  12. He should be concerned that Cousins rarely beats a team with a winning record

    Leave to a NE internet athlete to criticize a real NFL player. Ain’t America great where the untalented are free to bad mouth the talented to make themselves feel good.

    Cousins is a good QB when he is hot, but isn’t always hot, but they knew that when they got him.

  13. This is starting to align just like last year…. Remember Vikings fans said this was the greatest defense ever assembled,practically guaranteed a team playing the Super Bowl in their home stadium for the first time. This year, it’s the offense. Expect the same results. Cousins will choke, just like the defense did last year.

  14. 700levelvet says:
    October 20, 2018 at 2:47 pm

    Remember Vikings fans said this was the greatest defense ever assembled,practically guaranteed a team playing the Super Bowl in their home stadium for the first time.
    ________

    Nope. And I pay pretty close attention.

  15. It is very simple, his whole career he has refused to listen to the Coaches, and get rid of the ball faster. He thinks he can make a play on every snap. We all know that doesn’t happen in this League.
    He needs to swallow that pride and throw it away when receivers are covered! (Especially with this Offensive line)! We all know Rick Spielman has let Zimmer dictate the Draft for Defensive players. 3 1st round corners in 5 years and yet not a singe 1st round O-lineman. Cousins hasn’t been known as a scrambler, but this year he is doing it more. All the 5-10 yard sacks and one or 2 fumbles a game are not acceptable. JUST throw it in the stands. Gunslingers….There is simply no talking to them!

  16. dino2997 says:
    October 20, 2018 at 2:11 pm
    Cousins is having a great year and as always his team is not in first place and no guarantee of playoffs. Good news is fumbles aren’t looked at nearly as severely as interceptions for QB’s so statistically he looks great.
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    Can you show me the list of teams that are guaranteed a playoff spot?

  17. He doesn’t just fumble. He fumbles in the clutch with the game on the line. See the Rams finish for proof.

    You can’t teach a choker not to choke. Viking whiff again.

  18. filthymcnasty3
    Oct 20, 2018, 3:59 PM EDT
    He doesn’t just fumble. He fumbles in the clutch with the game on the line. See the Rams finish for proof.

    You can’t teach a choker not to choke. Viking whiff again.
    Vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

    Whiffed at what??
    Him being better than AR is truly a home run!

  19. Six fumbles is in-fact bad… Way Way worse than the five that Wisconsin’s favorite son has fumbled…

  20. Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:
    October 20, 2018 at 3:00 pm
    Nope. And I pay pretty close attention.
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    You do? And all you heard from Lambeau last Monday night was silence and boos? You’re amazing.

  21. Cousins has had a history of fumbling so Zimmer should have known that before they gave him that boatload of money.

  22. chris1cat says:
    October 20, 2018 at 4:12 pm
    filthymcnasty3
    Oct 20, 2018, 3:59 PM EDT

    He doesn’t just fumble. He fumbles in the clutch with the game on the line. See the Rams finish for proof.

    You can’t teach a choker not to choke. Viking whiff again.
    Vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

    Whiffed at what??
    Him being better than AR is truly a home run!
    ____________________________

    So, how is Cousins any better than Aaron Rodgers this season? Any season?
    I see the Barneys keep preaching this, but I simply don’t see it as fact.

    Kirk Cousins: Tds. 12 Ints. 3 Yds. 1,921 Yds/A. 7.86

    Aaron Rodgers: Tds. 12 Ints: 1 Yds. 1,997 Yds/A. 7.39

    Fumbles are pretty much negligible, as Cousins leads that too, 6, to Rodgers’ 5.

    Neither QB has a lot to brag about in the win Dept. as they’ve each led their respective teams to the same 3-2-1 record, albeit Rodgers has done it on an injured leg.
    So please, fill me in, on what definition is Cousins besting Rodgers at this season?

  23. This is correctable. 2 hands on the ball when linemen are close and use his quick release. He just needs to practice it until normal. Easier said then done but what you practice shows up on the field.

  24. Here is a stat that will make you go what? Rodgers has never beat a team that has a winning record being behind by one or more points going into the 4th quarter. No late heroics for this guy.

  25. cheeseisfattening says:
    October 20, 2018 at 4:34 pm
    Cousins is good but does not have to be great and carry a garbage roster.
    ________

    And yet they are both mired with the exact same record and have tied in their only head to head matchup.
    Have you no self awareness?

  26. As a Redskins fan, I’m delighted that somebody else is concerned about his fumbles now! Vikings fans better get used to it. He’ll give up as many big plays as he gets.

  27. cheeseisfattening says:
    October 20, 2018 at 4:34 pm
    Cousins is good but does not have to be great and carry a garbage roster.
    ///////////////////////////

    That accounts for leaving the Redskins, and also accounts for only having statistics on a par with a one-legged Rodgers.

  28. And yet they are both mired with the exact same record and have tied in their only head to head matchup.
    ———–
    What? That Rodgers has carried and lifted that garbage roster to an unexpected tie against Minnesota and to a better than expected record at this point should not surprise anyone anymore. Even you. Also its pretty much inline what your more self aware cheese eaters are saying at the end of the latest Packer story. Try not being so angry and biased, it will help you have a better understanding.

  29. wafflestomp says:
    October 20, 2018 at 5:16 pm
    cheeseisfattening says:
    October 20, 2018 at 4:34 pm
    Cousins is good but does not have to be great and carry a garbage roster.
    ________

    And yet they are both mired with the exact same record and have tied in their only head to head matchup.
    Have you no self awareness?

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    They tied because of an official’s call on Clay Matthews which the NFL later admitted should never have been called.

  30. Rodgers has given the Packers leads in the 4th quarter many times, only to have the Packers porous defenses give it back and lose the game.
    Rodgers does not play defense.

  31. Carried the Packers to an unexpected tie against the Vikings.

    Right. In Bizarro World.

    Thor himself made sure the Vikings didn’t get an undeserved lucky win. Even he knew they deserved to lose, and were just plain lucky to salvage a gift-wrapped tie on a silver platter.

  32. John Hopkins says:
    October 20, 2018 at 5:13 pm
    Here is a stat that will make you go what? Rodgers has never beat a team that has a winning record being behind by one or more points going into the 4th quarter. No late heroics for this guy.
    _______________

    There is absolutely no way your made up stat has a shred of validity or truth to it and I find it quite bizarre you would even try and use this to back up some stupid point or argument.

  33. Here is the undeniable truth, Vikings fans. Aaron Rodgers is better than any QB your Vikings have ever had in their history. And — so was Brett Favre. In fact, your Vikings signed Brett Favre when he was 39 years old because they can never develop a QB who can win the Super Bowl themselves, and he was the best QB you ever had even at that age!
    Let’s face it, Vikings fans. You had Fran Tarkenton, who was a great scrambler and who played a long time. He owned several records when he retired because he played so long (18 years), but he couldn’t win the big one with two franchises. You had Joe Kapp, and he was a tough s.o.b. who threw wounded ducks to his receivers. You had Wade Wilson, Tommy Kramer, Brad Johnson, and Rich Gannon, none of whom would ever be confused with Joe Montana. You had Warren Moon and Randall Cunningham, and both of them were the best QB’s you had up until then. But neither of them could win a Super Bowl with more than one franchise. You had Daunte Culpepper, who just threw the ball as far and high as he could and Randy Moss and Chris Carter would go get it.
    So — it’s obvious your best QB ever was Brett Favre, and you’ll probably grab Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees when they quit playing for the Packers and Saints, too. Because you will not win a Super Bowl with Kirk Cousins. The Redskins gave up on him for a host of reasons, and you’ll find out what they are.

  34. numba1wiscosportsfan says:
    October 20, 2018 at 6:12 pm
    Yikes. Fellow pack fans a little salty today. My word guys have some confidence. We are the green but it doesn’t have to be with envy
    ____________

    ariana, calling you and your fellow Barney fans out on their numerous lies, misinformation, and overall stupidity is not an indication of saltiness as much as it’s a public service to the gullible and naive.
    I would think you’d know the difference by now.

  35. And yet they are both mired with the exact same record
    ———-
    And yet no Viking fan celebrated any of their wins has ‘historic’ or said they were going to run Packer fan’s noses in a single regular season win.
    Any yet no Viking fan celebrated a week 4 or week 5 position or group ranking. Ohhh 5th in week 5!!!!!!
    Can you imagine the talk if a Packer WR was about to set a record like Thielan? ‘Blah blah blah greatness blah blah blah” is all we would be hearing on here for a record nobody ever heard of before this year.

  36. The only reason the Vikings hung around for a tie against the Packers is that MN stooped to using their helmet stickers to draw pity flags from the refs. Low class move.

    Meanwhile, Zimmer is throwing his shiny new QB under the bus in the media. Schism – 2.0.

  37. nyneal says:
    October 20, 2018 at 5:47 pm
    wafflestomp says:
    October 20, 2018 at 5:16 pm
    cheeseisfattening says:
    October 20, 2018 at 4:34 pm
    Cousins is good but does not have to be great and carry a garbage roster.
    ________

    And yet they are both mired with the exact same record and have tied in their only head to head matchup.
    Have you no self awareness?

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    They tied because of an official’s call on Clay Matthews which the NFL later admitted should never have been called

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    NFL never said that. Yet another lie pack fan gives us.

  38. nyneal says:
    October 20, 2018 at 6:05 pm
    Here is the undeniable truth, Vikings fans. Aaron Rodgers is better than any QB your Vikings have ever had in their history. And — so was Brett Favre.
    ————————————

    You cheeseheads like to tell us Super Bowls are all that matters. So I like to compare Favre and Erin to Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson. They aren’t in the conversation with Montana, Bradshaw and Brady. Not even the great Eli Manning.

  39. Thor himself made sure the Vikings didn’t get an undeserved lucky win.
    ————-
    This the 4th or 5th time you repeated that Thor line. You must really think a lot of it. 😛

  40. nyneal says:
    October 20, 2018 at 5:47 pm

    They tied because of an official’s call on Clay Matthews which the NFL later admitted should never have been called.
    /////////////
    Actually, the NFL sent out a video of what not to do, using Matthews as the example. So, the exact opposite of what you just said.

  41. Liberalsruineverything says:
    October 20, 2018 at 6:37 pm
    nyneal says:
    October 20, 2018 at 6:05 pm

    You cheeseheads like to tell us Super Bowls are all that matters. So I like to compare Favre and Erin to Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson. They aren’t in the conversation with Montana, Bradshaw and Brady. Not even the great Eli Manning.
    __________________

    Or for that matter, anyone who’s ever had the extreme misfortune to put on the Minnesota Vikings uniform. Ever!

  42. 700levelvet says:
    October 20, 2018 at 2:47 pm

    Remember Vikings fans said this was the greatest defense ever assembled,practically guaranteed a team playing the Super Bowl in their home stadium for the first time.
    ////////////////
    Nobody said that, ever. Not once. What we did say was, it’s amazing the team went 13-3 with their third choice at QB and their starting RB out for the year. Please stop lying. You look dumb.

  43. h0metownzero says:
    October 20, 2018 at 6:33 pm
    The only reason the Vikings hung around for a tie against the Packers is that MN stooped to using their helmet stickers to draw pity flags from the refs. Low class move.
    ————-
    That’s it Tokyo, stick with what you know when you get upset.

  44. As a Lions fan, I can tell you no has had more disappointing, embarrassing and humiliating fumbles than Stafford. Stafford has cost us more games via fumbles and INTs than you possibly imagine.

  45. wafflestomp says:
    October 20, 2018 at 5:55 pm
    John Hopkins says:
    October 20, 2018 at 5:13 pm

    Here is a stat that will make you go what? Rodgers has never beat a team that has a winning record being behind by one or more points going into the 4th quarter. No late heroics for this guy.
    _______________

    There is absolutely no way your made up stat has a shred of validity or truth to it and I find it quite bizarre you would even try and use this to back up some stupid point or argument.
    _______________

    Week 2 of the 2015 season, the Packers scored 11 unanswered points in the 4th qt. after trailing the Seattle Seahawks 17-16 after three.
    Oh, and the Seahawks would go on to post a 10-6 record that season.

    That took all of 2 minutes to debunk.
    Did I miss anything, I mean, it was a prime time game, is that ok?
    Does Rodgers have to be hopping up and down on one foot to meet the criteria of your stat too?
    Just curious.

  46. wafflestomp says:
    October 20, 2018 at 7:28 pm
    wafflestomp says:
    October 20, 2018 at 5:55 pm
    John Hopkins says:
    October 20, 2018 at 5:13 pm

    Here is a stat that will make you go what? Rodgers has never beat a team that has a winning record being behind by one or more points going into the 4th quarter. No late heroics for this guy.
    _______________

    There is absolutely no way your made up stat has a shred of validity or truth to it and I find it quite bizarre you would even try and use this to back up some stupid point or argument.
    _______________

    Week 2 of the 2015 season, the Packers scored 11 unanswered points in the 4th qt. after trailing the Seattle Seahawks 17-16 after three.
    Oh, and the Seahawks would go on to post a 10-6 record that season.

    That took all of 2 minutes to debunk.
    Did I miss anything, I mean, it was a prime time game, is that ok?
    Does Rodgers have to be hopping up and down on one foot to meet the criteria of your stat too?
    Just curious

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    At the time the Seahawks were 0-1, so no at the time they did not have a winning record…that took less than 30 seconds to debunk you. Still using dial up?

  47. 66 comments thus far lol. Anyway, it is not a good thing for any quarterback to fumble this much. Then again it is something QB’s have been pegged against them when the 0-line needs to step up. I totally get the whole concept of a QB needing a clock in their head to get rid of the ball no matter how hard they might be trying to make something happen. I don’t know how to come to a conclusion here. I just hope it gets better as the season goes on.

  48. wafflestomp says:
    October 20, 2018 at 7:28 pm
    wafflestomp says:
    October 20, 2018 at 5:55 pm
    John Hopkins says:
    October 20, 2018 at 5:13 pm

    Here is a stat that will make you go what? Rodgers has never beat a team that has a winning record being behind by one or more points going into the 4th quarter. No late heroics for this guy.
    _______________

    There is absolutely no way your made up stat has a shred of validity or truth to it and I find it quite bizarre you would even try and use this to back up some stupid point or argument.
    _______________

    Week 2 of the 2015 season, the Packers scored 11 unanswered points in the 4th qt. after trailing the Seattle Seahawks 17-16 after three.
    Oh, and the Seahawks would go on to post a 10-6 record that season.

    That took all of 2 minutes to debunk.
    Did I miss anything, I mean, it was a prime time game, is that ok?
    Does Rodgers have to be hopping up and down on one foot to meet the criteria of your stat too?
    Just curious

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    At the time the Seahawks were 0-1, so no at the time they did not have a winning record…that took less than 30 seconds to debunk you. Still using dial up?
    ____________

    Seriously, how lame are you?
    I would put far more stock and weight into a team that finishes a season over .500, rather than a team who has the good fortune/luck of winning the opening week who might not be nearly as strong.
    Again, as I said earlier, I’m just trying to clear up some of the stupidity around here.
    That doesn’t mean you have to contribute.

  49. wafflestomp says:
    October 20, 2018 at 8:03 pm
    wafflestomp says:
    October 20, 2018 at 7:28 pm
    wafflestomp says:
    October 20, 2018 at 5:55 pm
    John Hopkins says:
    October 20, 2018 at 5:13 pm

    Here is a stat that will make you go what? Rodgers has never beat a team that has a winning record being behind by one or more points going into the 4th quarter. No late heroics for this guy.
    _______________

    There is absolutely no way your made up stat has a shred of validity or truth to it and I find it quite bizarre you would even try and use this to back up some stupid point or argument.
    _______________

    Week 2 of the 2015 season, the Packers scored 11 unanswered points in the 4th qt. after trailing the Seattle Seahawks 17-16 after three.
    Oh, and the Seahawks would go on to post a 10-6 record that season.

    That took all of 2 minutes to debunk.
    Did I miss anything, I mean, it was a prime time game, is that ok?
    Does Rodgers have to be hopping up and down on one foot to meet the criteria of your stat too?
    Just curious

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    At the time the Seahawks were 0-1, so no at the time they did not have a winning record…that took less than 30 seconds to debunk you. Still using dial up?
    ____________

    Seriously, how lame are you?
    I would put far more stock and weight into a team that finishes a season over .500, rather than a team who has the good fortune/luck of winning the opening week who might not be nearly as strong.
    Again, as I said earlier, I’m just trying to clear up some of the stupidity around here.
    That doesn’t mean you have to contribute

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    Sorry waffle, I was surprised at the obscure fact he brought up about Rodgers. It’s not lame to print the truth the Seahawks were 0-1 at the time, a team without a winning record. The obscure record that was brought up was Rodgers against a team with a winning record. You need to go back and search to prove him wrong until then…….. neener neener neener

  50. John Hopkins says:
    October 20, 2018 at 5:13 pm

    Here is a stat that will make you go what? Rodgers has never beat a team that has a winning record being behind by one or more points going into the 4th quarter. No late heroics for this guy.

    +++++

    December 29, 2013. Green Bay was facing the 8-7 Bears. Bears led 21-20 going into the fourth quarter. Green Bay won 33-28. To make the playoffs.

    Your “stat” is incorrect.

  51. Firerogergoddell: you totally missed the point. No pocket presence meaning he can’t sense a pass rush and gets strip sacked.

  52. packertruth says:
    October 20, 2018 at 8:30 pm
    John Hopkins says:
    October 20, 2018 at 5:13 pm

    Here is a stat that will make you go what? Rodgers has never beat a team that has a winning record being behind by one or more points going into the 4th quarter. No late heroics for this guy.

    +++++

    December 29, 2013. Green Bay was facing the 8-7 Bears. Bears led 21-20 going into the fourth quarter. Green Bay won 33-28. To make the playoffs.

    Your “stat” is incorrect.
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    I don’t know which one of you is correct, but, does it matter? Dude, you had to go back to 2013 against an 8-7 Bears team to try and prove him wrong. And some of you think AR is the GOAT? Maybe the GOAT of cheap stats and regular season stats.

  53. conormacleod says:
    October 21, 2018 at 11:21 am
    packertruth says:
    October 20, 2018

    December 29, 2013. Green Bay was facing the 8-7 Bears. Bears led 21-20 going into the fourth quarter. Green Bay won 33-28. To make the playoffs.

    Your “stat” is incorrect.
    /////////////
    I don’t know which one of you is correct, but, does it matter? Dude, you had to go back to 2013 against an 8-7 Bears team to try and prove him wrong. And some of you think AR is the GOAT? Maybe the GOAT of cheap stats and regular season stats.
    *****************

    This is the definition of a cheap stat. It’s pointless.
    If you need to use something like this against all other stats, wins, gameplay and accomplishments to try and prove some argument of weakness in a player’s overall worth, it just illustrates how sad and simple your knowledge of the game really is.
    That, or it’s just plain jealousy.
    I suspect it’s a little of both.

  54. conormacleod says:
    October 21, 2018 at 11:21 am
    packertruth says:
    October 20, 2018 at 8:30 pm
    John Hopkins says:
    October 20, 2018 at 5:13 pm

    Here is a stat that will make you go what? Rodgers has never beat a team that has a winning record being behind by one or more points going into the 4th quarter. No late heroics for this guy.

    +++++

    December 29, 2013. Green Bay was facing the 8-7 Bears. Bears led 21-20 going into the fourth quarter. Green Bay won 33-28. To make the playoffs.

    Your “stat” is incorrect.
    /////////////
    I don’t know which one of you is correct, but, does it matter? Dude, you had to go back to 2013 against an 8-7 Bears team to try and prove him wrong. And some of you think AR is the GOAT? Maybe the GOAT of cheap stats and regular season stats

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    It kept him busy and not trolling. It’s like giving a cranky baby his binky, you don’t have to listen to him. I’m all for giving packer fan little projects to keep them off Viking stories.

  55. This is definitely a concern. It could very well be the deciding point in a playoff game (much like AP fumbles were.)

    That being said, I think it’s kind of a trade-off unfortunately because the REASON it happens more to him is because he is always looking downfield to throw the ball and DOES that very well.

    Against the Eagles he was pummeled while throwing the ball at the last micro-second and somehow got it to receivers for first downs.

    I guess I’ll take the good with the bad.

    Finally (since Favre) the Vikes have a QB who can deliver the ball for crucial first downs when the down and distance is more than 1 foot.

    And he does it because he keeps his eyes downfield. The result is he sometimes does not escape the pocket or pressure as soon as he should. He could learn from Brees for sure.

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