Derek Carr chimes in on #Crygate: “Not one tear. Not one time.”

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In response to a story from TheAthletic.com suggesting that a “fractured relationship” with teammates was exacerbated by the perception that Raiders quarterback Derek Carr cried after being injured during the game against the Seahawks in London, Carr has set the record straight.

“On the ground I yelled get me up get me,” Carr said on Twitter. “Then I got to the sideline and yelled again. Not one tear. Not one time. There is the Truth. People will click on it because it sounds crazy. But stop playing with me.”

The video made the rounds at the time the incident happened; we refrained from writing about it because it’s not really clear what he’s doing or saying, and there was no reason to think it had any relevance to anything. The situation became newsworthy when TheAthletic.com published an article containing this contention: “They saw his face. They heard his whimper. They witnessed him explain on the sidelines. They assuredly watched it again in film session. It’s hard to see how Carr can lead this team again.”

Carr, who has tweeted sparingly over the several weeks, added this message regarding the current state of the franchise: “I’m a Raider. It’s not a ‘popular’ thing to be a Raider right now, but I am and I love it. I love the struggle of trying to fight back for our city when not a lot of people believe in us. People can try all they want to tear us apart, but it’s not happening to the real ones.”

First, it’s strange to see a Raiders player vowing to “fight back for our city” when they’re getting ready to leave said city, possibly as soon as next year. Second, “not a lot of people believe” in the Raiders for reasons that have been earned and are fully deserved. Third, the Raiders are doing a good job of tearing themselves apart by selling off key players in a way that, given the most recent trade, sends a clear “we’re building for our new city” message.

Carr has every right to make his voice heard on these matters. However, those who believe that he did indeed cry probably won’t be swayed by the denial, and the denial itself likely gives potential legitimacy to the claim.

85 responses to “Derek Carr chimes in on #Crygate: “Not one tear. Not one time.”

  1. This is so obviously a “leak” from the Raiders front office to prepare everyone for the inevitable Carr divorce. Makes it easier for the fans and media to side with Oakland once they move him.

    Kinda bush league to question his toughness though.

  2. I guess you could conclude that he’s crying if you watch it with the expectation that he’s crying, but if you just watch it there’s no sound and no visible tears so it seems unlikely. Guys who get hurt have pained looks on their faces, and that’s what it looks like to me.

    Furthermore, what kind of a man would lose respect for a leader because he cries, anyway?

  3. he sucked before Chuckie

    Gruden doesn’t like how this team was configured. He doesn’t like the players. Mack gone, Cooper gone, Carr will be gone. For better or for worse (honestly I don’t know), he is going to make this team HIS team.

  4. I love the struggle of trying to fight back for our city when not a lot of people believe in us.
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    Ya I love that we suck and having to fight for every point, and what City exactly are you fighting for? the one you are in or the one you are going to?

  5. And McNabb claimed he didn’t puke on the field in the closing moments of the Super Bowl even though there was video of it.

    When do Raiders fans start burning Chucky dolls in effigy?

  6. Carr has every right to make his voice heard on these matters. However, those who believe that he did indeed cry probably won’t be swayed by the denial, and the denial itself likely gives potential legitimacy to the claim.

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    You’re still ignoring the obvious Anthem issue from last year. When the line matador’d the opposing D’s lineman allowing Carr to be crushed several times. Along with the center snapping the ball twice to Carr before Carr called for it.

    These wounds obviously never healed. Thus there is very likely some resentment for Carr staying and Mack and Cooper being moved. This “Carr cried” is very likely being propagated from within.

  7. Yup, I would not be surprised if he was traded before the deadline. The problem is a team can have a stockpile of high draft picks and there is no guarantee they will get elite or even quality players for them in the future.

  8. Sure. Those weren’t tears flowing out of your eyes. The Raiders are done. It will require years for them to climb out of their Black Hole. Have fun.

  9. cant believe anyone is questioning his toughness.

    We all know its not coming from the locker room because hes impossible to dislike.

    Damn shame theyre resorting to these type of tactics, we already know youre moving on from Carr after this season, why try to sully his name? why hurt his potential value if you decide to trade him?

    My Raiders are a dumpster fire.

  10. people truly suck, i remember years back the 49’ers crushed tony romo and they said at half time they heard a wimper. he came back out of the locker room with broken ribs and a punctured lung and shredded them. for you people that never played it’s a tough game and people get hurt.

  11. This is ridiculous. The guy played 1 week after breaking a bone in his back. He shattered his leg. This is just media talk. Whether he stays or not, the guy has earned his respect. Been a pro since day 1, dating back to when we had a roster worse than what we have now.

  12. Do you know how hard it is for a starting QB to throw for more INTs than TDs in this offense-friendly NFL? Yet you have Carr doing his best Nathan Peterman impression. So far this season, Carr has one game with multiples TDs and 3 games with multiple INTs. Carr showed promise his first couple of seasons, but a good QB doesn’t regress this hard when his production should be ascending.

    Carr is an overhyped, overpaid replacement-level NFL QB. He isn’t good. Cry over that.

  13. Way to make perception worse. He sounds like he’s whining about not whimpering. Just play better an no one will care what you do.

    Tom Brady could sit on the sidelines and cry while watching rom-com movies and nobody would care as long as the Patriots keep making the playoffs and going to (and sometimes winning) super bowls.

  14. There’s very little use in Carr denying the report even if it’s a lie because there’s no doubt in my mind that Gruden (who’s stock-and-trade is dishonesty) was behind the report in the first place.

    Carr will be gone in 2019 and if he gets into a good system he’ll again be productive. And the Raiders will be faced with being putrid for as long as Gruden remains as HC and controls the roster.

  15. Even Jerry Springer and Richard Bey at their lowest couldn’t top chuckles and King Bowlcut antics

  16. The Truth says:
    October 23, 2018 at 1:25 pm

    people truly suck, i remember years back the 49’ers crushed tony romo and they said at half time they heard a wimper. he came back out of the locker room with broken ribs and a punctured lung and shredded them. for you people that never played it’s a tough game and people get hurt.

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    Every time someone made fun of Romo after that game, I thought of this. One of the toughest things I ever saw a player do. Up there with Favre going on a rampage in that game after his father died. No current player has done something as tough as what Romo did that day.

  17. Shoot i have seen NFL players in tears and players who suffer serious injuries, whats the big deal. Nonsense if u ask me, he cried, he didnt cry so what.

  18. This is year one of a rebuild and you people just can’t get that through your heads, Gruden is going to tear this roster apart and build it through the draft and get his players in there…He’s amassed five first round picks in the next two years, What he does with those draft picks will determine what direction this team goes, This is all about Las Vegas not that cesspool that is Oakland

  19. Gruden’s taking heat for how this has all gone down and rightfully so, but they are doing the right thing with the trades. Mack is great no question, but they’d be losing with him regardless as they did in 3 out of his previous 4 years and would be doing so while paying him like a QB. It was not a popular move, but if the overall roster is poor you have to rebuild it through the draft and the Raiders now have 5 1st round picks in the next 2 years. Getting a 1st from Dallas for Cooper was robbery. This team is going to finish in the bottom 3, but have the picks and money to turn it around quickly as long as Gruden gets a decent personnel staff in place.

  20. I don’t know if there is any “proof” of said crying. But, even if there is, if you are injured, a tear or two may escape just as a physical reaction from your body. That alone does not define whether or not you are a “tough guy”.

  21. I’m not a Raiders fan or a Derek Carr fan, but this is a bad look for The Athletic. Such a dumb story, claiming a QB is losing his team because he cried, when the video is debatable. That’s TMZ quality.

  22. Not much of a raiders fan but don’t question the dude’s toughness. He played with a broken back last year.

  23. TruthfulDolphinsFanNotWearingBlinders says:
    October 23, 2018 at 1:33 pm
    The actual tears are from Raiders fans having to watch this debacle week after week!
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    Are lolphins fans really in a position to chip away at another team as a debacle?
    Coming into this season the dollyfins had just six more wins and only one less head coach this decade than Oakland.

  24. Derek… you cried. Own it. Men have feelings too. Michael Sam owned being gay and made kissy face with his fiance boyfriend on national TV when he got drafted by Jeff Fisher.

    Also, you’re a wuss, Derek. Grown men shouldn’t cry about getting sacked.

  25. kevpft says:
    October 23, 2018 at 1:49 pm
    The Truth says:
    October 23, 2018 at 1:25 pm

    people truly suck, i remember years back the 49’ers crushed tony romo and they said at half time they heard a wimper. he came back out of the locker room with broken ribs and a punctured lung and shredded them. for you people that never played it’s a tough game and people get hurt.

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    Every time someone made fun of Romo after that game, I thought of this. One of the toughest things I ever saw a player do. Up there with Favre going on a rampage in that game after his father died. No current player has done something as tough as what Romo did that day.
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    Phillip Rivers played on a torn ACL in a playoff game against the Pats.

  26. The reports that Derek Carr was crying are totally false. it wasn’t him that was crying, it was the Davis family because they realize they are paying Gruden and Carr about 10 times as much as they are worth!

  27. Philip Rivers has the same reputation. I occasionally see Carr behaving just like him. The difference is Rivers still performs at an elite level, if this was Carr’s first year he would look like an absolute bust the way he’s regressed.

  28. So Amari Cooper is a key part of the Raiders franchise in the crying Derek Carr articles, but is a busted over-valued nobody in the Jason Garrett, Dallas Cowboys articles.

    OK chief. Whatever you say.

  29. If you have enough pain, your body will do that automatically. I remember when I ruptured and herniated disks in my back. Every day I bent over to tie my shoes and go to work, because I had kids to feed, tears came to my eyes. Every day. Nothing I could do. Tears are biological. Bawling is different. This seems really low.

  30. Carr is a pretty good quarterback. He needs a team with a little bit of offensive line and not having a coach who likes to pretend he is the leader. Players play and players lead. Gruden was the wrong choice for the Raiders. That team is a mess and the management is to blame for all of it.

  31. Gruden did the SAME THING to Tampa after the Super Bowl run. He wins with Dungy’s people, then to prove he can do it on his own, starts getting rid of everyone and promptly starts having losing records. I don’t know why people are surprised by this.

  32. I’m surprised how many people forget or dont know about his little crying episode . He went all out 2 year old type crap … his team mates even tried to shield him … that way it would not be all over news. It was pretty sad to see a grown man cry like that over a leg

  33. wcman says:
    October 23, 2018 at 1:57 pm
    Gruden’s taking heat for how this has all gone down and rightfully so, but they are doing the right thing with the trades. Mack is great no question, but they’d be losing with him regardless as they did in 3 out of his previous 4 years and would be doing so while paying him like a QB. It was not a popular move, but if the overall roster is poor you have to rebuild it through the draft and the Raiders now have 5 1st round picks in the next 2 years. Getting a 1st from Dallas for Cooper was robbery. This team is going to finish in the bottom 3, but have the picks and money to turn it around quickly as long as Gruden gets a decent personnel staff in place.

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    Agree, but the best way for Gruden to assemble a decent personnel staff is to remove himself from it.

  34. Saw the video and didn’t see any crying. When it rains it pours, and this sounds like the local media just trying to keep it interesting.

  35. Out of curiosity, did Luke Keuchly’s weird crying incident fracture his relationship with Panther teammates?

    Rhetorical, cuz the answer is no. This is just an attempt to scape goat Carr, or to justify a future decision that makes him no longer a part of the team. Pretty weak if you ask me.

  36. kamthechancellor says:
    October 23, 2018 at 2:27 pm
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    Phillip Rivers played on a torn ACL in a playoff game against the Pats.

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    That was pretty amazing as well! If I had to compare, I’d still rate Romo’s playing with broken ribs and punctured lung, right after the injury happened, and winning the game, above Rivers playing after a week and surgery and losing the game, but both guys are clearly tough!

  37. teamE4E says:
    October 23, 2018 at 3:00 pm
    Gruden did the SAME THING to Tampa after the Super Bowl run. He wins with Dungy’s people, then to prove he can do it on his own, starts getting rid of everyone and promptly starts having losing records. I don’t know why people are surprised by this.
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    Well, he isn’t exactly winning with Del Rio/Mackenzie’s roster.
    But yeah, he is purging the roster.

  38. the denial itself likely gives potential legitimacy to the claim.
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    This statement, or variations thereof, drive me crazy every time I see it. No, somebody denying something does not prove it’s true. Ever. This is a lazy, intellectually dishonest way to defend a charge you’ve made without providing any further evidence.

    Let me make sure I have it straight – if he confirms it, it’s confirmed. If he denies it, it’s confirmed. If he says nothing, it’s confirmed.

    Got it.

  39. Hey, I’ll never know one way or the other. Or care, for that matter. But I heard “Not one tear. Not one time.” in a sniveling, trembling voice.

  40. Wow, look at all the nerd boy fans, from other irrelevant teams, with their negative comments, they just can’t stop thinking about the Raiders can they?

  41. No one ever complained about him wearing eyeliner/mascara, so why do they care about tears all of a sudden?

  42. Why are sports fan so obsessed with other people’s paychecks?? Jealous much.
    The Raiders are paying the last coach that helped them get anywhere, that’s from the area and loves the Raiders, that lots of teams would have paid alot to also. The 10 year duration is just a payback for them trading Gruden in the first place. Mack and Carr are not and never will be superstars – Get real. The Patriots put 38 on the Bears – where was Mack? Mack disappears against good teams, he’s an inside linebacker playing outside. Gruden will have this team going in a season or two. Cooper is easily the best player of the three – if they get a real QB they will want that one back

  43. The team currently has no friends in the media because a)they suck and b) they are moving. This is a silly story because Carr has repeatedly played hurt and injured.

  44. I wonder if he went to Mark Davis with the pitch that he was going to burn his team to the ground?

  45. I love the comments that John won with someone else’s team? Why didn’t that someone else with their team? Dungy over rated! Manning made him!

  46. jjfootball says:
    October 23, 2018 at 4:39 pm

    Wow, look at all the nerd boy fans, from other irrelevant teams, with their negative comments, they just can’t stop thinking about the Raiders can they?
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    What’s that now? You don’t like when other fanbases have something negative to say about your team? I can’t imagine what that must be like…never happens to us Pats fans.

  47. I doubt that Carr was crying, it certainly wasn’t a good look in that still shot.

    But I guarantee anyone writing for The Athletic or this site for that matter would be crying for real if they weren’t completely knocked out taking those same hits.

  48. Looks like a grimace of pain to me. People who question Carr’s toughness don’t know what tough is. He has had major injuries and played through them. The raiders are in rebuild mode but if they trade Carr they will regret it. You have a young QB with a great arm who is a student of the game with leadership qualities, he has played in 5 different offenses in 5 years. This year the team’s talent is depleted, starting 2 rookie tackles and a poor defense, on top of all that, the QBs coming out of college are not that deep talent wise this year. Keep Carr and we get back in 2 or 3 years, trade him, over draft a QB and we will have another long run of futility.

  49. How exactly is Mark Davis’ moneygrubbing Derek Carr’s fault? Gruden wants to rebuild the roster with his guys-we get that-but how is any of that Carr’s responsibility?I fundamentally do not understand why commentors on this site and elsewhere instantly jump on the “he sucks” bandwagon as soon as someone’s team is not in playoff contention, as if one player even determines the success rate of the entire operation. But I understand the least is how, even if the player in question did “suck” at his job, that justifies the outright hatred for him as a person.

  50. Why are people surprised Gruden is gutting this team? I would do the same thing. Start with basics. You know you need at least three years to win it all. Maybe 4. So that’s your target. Mack wants big money. What good will he be in 3-4 years to our team making tons of money? We know he will help lots in the meantime, but these next 1-2 years especially May get ugly. So they get an offer for Exactly what you want. First round picks. You do it. Once you make that move, it’s on. Especially when the team is 1-6. I’d start gutting it like a fish. Who cares? Have some guts. Believe in your vision. The plan is 3/4 years. “What does this do to help me in 3-4 years?” Every move that comes up, that’s your mantra. The Raiders are doing it right. They may screw up the picks, but they set the table and should continue to do so. I’m a Vikings fan who can see this. Not sure why everyone is hating on these moves. It’s what you need to do. I guess some people just can’t stomach it and don’t have the courage to stand up to criticism.

  51. This sounds like Donovan McNabb swearing up and down that he didn’t puke in the Super Bowl against the Patriots, while defending himself against the claims of Terrell Owens.

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