Tom Brady: Aaron Rodgers inspires me

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A promo for Sunday night’s game between the Patriots and Packers features Michael Jordan musing about who is the greatest quarterback ever while hyping a rare matchup between Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers.

Brady acknowledges that it is fun to debate such matters, but notes that it is ultimately “a hypothetical question that is truly impossible to answer.” Brady did say that Rodgers has “every skill you need to be a great quarterback” and that the Packers quarterback provides him with a push to be the best player he can be.

“What he’s done as a quarterback, I think it is is inspiring, even for me,” Brady said on WEEI. “I watch his game and it makes me want to get out there and practice and improve because I think he’s so phenomenal with the way he manages himself in the pocket and his ability to throw the football is unlikely anyone probably in the history of the league. It’s pretty awesome to watch.”

Brady said that he is sure that Sunday’s game in New England “will come down to the wire.”

The only other meeting between the two teams with Brady and Rodgers starting came in Green Bay during the 2014 season. The Packers prevailed 26-21 behind two Rodgers touchdown passes and a seven-yard completion to Randall Cobb on third down that allowed them to run out the clock in the fourth quarter.

141 responses to “Tom Brady: Aaron Rodgers inspires me

  1. Aaron inspires everyone around him, too. Ty is inspired. So inspired, in fact, that he makes his own decisions against strict coaching orders.

  2. Brady is the GOAT, Rodgers is great. Real winners get thing done when it matters, Rodgers cannot consistently win the big games, so he cannot be entered into the GOAT discussion.

  3. People that are triggered that something positive was implied about Aaron Rodgers in 3…2…1

  4. I like when superstars get older/old they tend to mend fences and unite against the younger generation. Tom Brady now plays with kids that could be his sons.

  5. Since 2012 Brady vs Wilson has been my personal favorite match up.

    @ Sea 24-23
    NE 28-24 SB neutral site
    Sea @ 31-24
    All three games came down to the wire. Literal nail biters.

  6. Brady has obviously had more team success than anyone and you can’t take anything away from him. But deep down I would take Rodgers. The guy does it all, is consistently sharp and in command like Brady and Manning, but he also makes miraculous plays seem commonplace like few QBs ever. Those plays where he somehow evades a sure sack then fires the ball 60 yards downfield into a 1′ by 1′ window.

  7. Brady is so humble like he’s said hes the best for the patriots and that’s all that matters us fans are lucky to have him.

  8. I’m wicked excited for this game….. Rogers & company desperately need this game….it’s gonna be a dog fight for sure…. I hope Sony can play but ONLY if he’s 100%….. it’s probably gonna be a shoot out anyways…..
    It will be fun to watch two of the best QB’s going at it……probably come down to who has the ball last……
    Go Pats!!!!

  9. Bet the Packers are studying what the Bill’s did to shut brady right down last night…

  10. Rodgers is a great QB and could be an all time great.

    Unfortunately – I don’t think he has the durability to last long enough to get there.

  11. Lockport Lax says:
    October 30, 2018 at 1:15 pm
    Bet the Packers are studying what the Bill’s did to shut brady right down last night…
    —————-
    They were in nickel and dime all night because there was absolutely zero threat to run. Patterson did well but he isn’t a running back 🙂 Gronk is also not healthy, and that was obvious.

    When Michel comes back what the Bills did won’t work very well if they try again.

  12. “scoops1 says:
    October 30, 2018 at 1:15 pm
    i got a real problem with football fans who hate Tom Brady…..”

    Hate is a strong word. I dislike Brady because he’s wildly arrogant but plays it down in front of the cameras like he’s a choir boy. Rodgers is arrogant and doesn’t care who knows it or who cares about it. I can respect that, though I’m not a fan of it.

  13. I have to agree with TheWizard…

    I make not like Brady but I respect what he’s done and continues to do. The biggest thing to me about Brady is I’ve never heard him talk down about any opponent.

  14. What happens if you switch Rodgers and Brady and Tom has to play with dumb dumb McCarthy as his coach… we would be talking about everything 180 degrees opposite

  15. “What he’s done as a quarterback, I think it is is inspiring, even for me,” Brady said on WEEI. “I watch his game and it makes me want to get out there and practice and improve because I think he’s so phenomenal with the way he manages himself in the pocket and his ability to throw the football is unlikely anyone probably in the history of the league. It’s pretty awesome to watch.”

    Looking at what Brady said – it makes sense.

    Rodgers was gifted with a ton of natural ability. Tom wasn’t – he had to work hard to become the QB he is. Even at 41 years of age, Brady is not above practicing to make himself better.

    Contrast that to Mr. “I don’t need to practice” Rodgers…

  16. When I watch Rodgers play, I repeatedly find myself impressed with his talent. He may well be a better passer than Brady. On the other hand, I feel Brady has done more for him team. He takes less of the cap, is an amazing teammate, and is very talented as well. I guess of the two, I would lean towards Brady if I could pick a quarterback. I always like a team-first player. Whether being a team-first player is what has led him to being a lot more successful than Rodgers is less clear, but I would guess it plays a part.

  17. steelcurtainn says:
    October 30, 2018 at 1:24 pm
    How cute! Except Rodgers don’t cheat.
    —-
    Neither does Brady.

    The Steelers do though. Dr Rydze says hi. 🙂 And your HOF QB tainted your first 4 titles by admitting he and his team used illegal PEDs to win titles.

  18. “I inspire you too, right Tom? Right, buddy? I bet I do, out there all day just throwing that football. Right, big fella? Oooh, ooh, over here! …he probably just didn’t hear me, you guys.” — Joe Flacco

  19. How cute! Except Rodgers don’t cheat.
    _________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    How does Brady cheat? Try using actual facts instead of fake innuendo. If you want to say Deflategate (laughable, but we all know that’s where this is going), I would tread lightly. Rodgers openly admitted to trying to pump balls above the legal PSI and sneak it past the officials, thereby trying to gain a competitive advantage. Sound familiar?

  20. steelcurtainn says:
    October 30, 2018 at 1:24 pm
    How cute! Except Rodgers don’t cheat.

    And you “don’t “ have much of an education.

  21. When I watch Rodgers play, I repeatedly find myself impressed with his talent. He may well be a better passer than Brady. On the other hand, I feel Brady has done more for him team. He takes less of the cap, is an amazing teammate, and is very talented as well. I guess of the two, I would lean towards Brady if I could pick a quarterback. I always like a team-first player.
    =====

    Aaron Rodgers cap numbers
    2018 – $20,900,000
    2019 – $26,500,000

    Tom Brady cap numbers
    2018 – $22,000,000
    2019 – $27,000,000

  22. As Patriots and Packer fans muse about picking between Rodgers and Brady, Viking fans muse about picking between Ponder, Bradford, Bridgewater, Tavaris, Cousins, Keenum and Joe Webb.

    You really have to admire any club that can develop QB’s.

  23. What happens if you switch Rodgers and Brady and Tom has to play with dumb dumb McCarthy as his coach… we would be talking about everything 180 degrees opposite
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    Would Rodgers have lead his team back from a 28-3 deficit in the 4th quarter of a SB? The simple answer is no. The two weeks prior to that SB, he had a chance to do so against the same team and the Packers got waxed. I know the blame will be put on the rest of the Packers team since its never his fault, but the fact of the matter is Rodgers doesn’t have half the resume Brady does when it really matters. It doesnt matter if BB was his coach or McCarthy.

  24. Too bad the Packers didn’t clean house after the 2014 playoff disaster. There is no debate that Rodgers has played under much worse coaching. Of course, he seems content with that as long as they keep opening the vault for him.

  25. Fake News

    tylawspick6 says:
    October 30, 2018 at 12:57 pm
    “Brady is the greatest and it’s not close.” – A. Rodgers (4 years ago)

  26. It doesnt matter if BB was his coach or McCarthy.
    =====

    Sure it does.

    Belichicks teams more often than not, have made stops when it matters.

    McCarthys teams fold like a cheap deck chair at every possible opportunity.

  27. What happens if you switch Rodgers and Brady and Tom has to play with dumb dumb McCarthy as his coach…
    =====

    He’d be roadkill.

    Bradys sack% is 4.8

    Rodgers is as mobile as any QB ever… his sack% in McCarthys “offense”.. 6.9..

  28. Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:
    October 30, 2018 at 1:05 pm
    He’s right. Sadly, the rest of the Packers organization is very uninspiring.

    _____

    Based on your post count, I would say Rodgers and the Packers organization are very inspiring.

    We can’t keep you Vikings fans off anything Packer related…..

  29. gtodriver says:
    October 30, 2018 at 1:32 pm
    “What he’s done as a quarterback, I think it is is inspiring, even for me,” Brady said on WEEI. “I watch his game and it makes me want to get out there and practice and improve because I think he’s so phenomenal with the way he manages himself in the pocket and his ability to throw the football is unlikely anyone probably in the history of the league. It’s pretty awesome to watch.”

    Looking at what Brady said – it makes sense.

    Rodgers was gifted with a ton of natural ability. Tom wasn’t – he had to work hard to become the QB he is. Even at 41 years of age, Brady is not above practicing to make himself better.

    Contrast that to Mr. “I don’t need to practice” Rodgers…

    _____

    You don’t get as good as Rodgers, at this level, without practice. As I recall he spent 3 years “honing his game”.

    More fake proclamations.

    You should be more worried about how Alex Smith is 5-2 with the Redskins this year and your record is starting to look more like the redskins of last year.

    What could possibly be the correlation?

  30. Come game time, both of them will be seen whining to the refs and yelling at their O-line. Good quarterbacks, lousy human beings.

  31. 8oneanddones says:
    October 30, 2018 at 1:52 pm
    Too bad the Packers didn’t clean house after the 2014 playoff disaster. There is no debate that Rodgers has played under much worse coaching. Of course, he seems content with that as long as they keep opening the vault for him.

    ____

    Right. Because HOF QB’s just pack up and leave on a regular basis.

    SMH

  32. crownofthehelmet says:
    October 30, 2018 at 2:16 pm
    Come game time, both of them will be seen whining to the refs and yelling at their O-line. Good quarterbacks, lousy human beings.
    =====================================================================================================================================================
    That’s cool that you’ve spent time with both of them. In your interactions with them, what do they do that makes them lousy human beings?

  33. How cute! Except Rodgers don’t cheat.
    _________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    How does Brady cheat? Try using actual facts instead of fake innuendo. If you want to say Deflategate (laughable, but we all know that’s where this is going), I would tread lightly. Rodgers openly admitted to trying to pump balls above the legal PSI and sneak it past the officials, thereby trying to gain a competitive advantage. Sound familiar?

    The game in 2014 vs. Patriots could have been one of the times Rodgers was successful at doing just that. Did you hear the Patriots complain, whine and go crying to the league? No, they just took their loss like men, went home and tried to be better. Mad respect to AR and the Pack BTW.

  34. He inspires a lot of people, me included. He’s a leader. I’ll bet he thinks pretty highly of Brady too. How could he not? They’re both very good and amongst the best. It’s too hard to call any one guy “the best.” Maybe you can on a basketball team with five players and the ability to take control each and every time up the court, but football? No can do. Too many uncontrollable variables.

  35. GoodellMustGo says:
    October 30, 2018 at 1:41 pm
    steelcurtainn says:
    October 30, 2018 at 1:24 pm
    How cute! Except Rodgers don’t cheat.
    —-
    Neither does Brady.

    The Steelers do though. Dr Rydze says hi. 🙂 And your HOF QB tainted your first 4 titles by admitting he and his team used illegal PEDs to win titles.”

    Steroids were not illegal to use in the 1970s when the Steelers and other NFL teams used them. They weren’t the first team (that would be the Chargers) to use them and they weren’t the last team to use them. So that doesn’t taint their dynasty, unless you want to rewrite history for every SB winning team based on today’s rules.
    There was no evidence that Dr. Rydze ever prescribed HgH to any active players. His indictment was that he misused it with his elderly clients. His contact with the Steelers ended about a decade before he ended up in legal trouble. But it’s apparent by your post that false narratives are more important to you than facts, so carry on…

  36. He see’s how the Packa’s consistently choke in the playoffs and it inspires him to practice harder, priceless.

    The teams could have met more often if the Packa’s made it to the SB but…..

  37. I’m a Dolphins fan so I’m obviously unbiased. The debate to me comes down to health. Brady doesn’t miss games, therefore his team is always in the best position to win. Yes Rodgers is more physically gifted, and Tom has the benefit of the greatest coach of all time. But Tom doesn’t get hurt. He’s always there so he’s always gonna win. Just my opinion

  38. “Championship football is orchestration.” -Bill Walsh

    If athletes are artists then Aaron Rodgers is the Charlie Parker of football, the greatest improviser. But sport is not art because at the end of the day, it comes down to wins and losses — the purpose of the game is to win. No one wins like Brady. Fair or not, that’s how many people judge the quarterback position. We can talk about potential all day long but production, availability, and coachability are just as important.

    Rodgers has the greatest pure talent as a thrower and can do some of the most amazing off schedule throws. As Greg Cosell once said, it seems Rodgers decided early on that’s how he plays the game by using his transcendent talent to compete with delayed reaction by adjusting constantly in the moment. Brady is a conductor and his rapport with is teammates are a source of his success. Let’s just say Brady is the best at BEFORE the snap and Rodgers is the best at AFTER the snap.

    Rodgers is the greatest passer and Brady is the greatest quarterback so that settles it.

  39. Brady seems to be able to inspire his team to work hard, prepare hard, and play with quiet confidence. While not overly vocal from outside appearances, he appears to be a leader, and seems to elevate the play of those around him. That x factor is often (not always) over looked, and was on display almost immediately when he took the field in 2001. It’s still on display 18 years later. I think it’s a major factor in the Patriots unprecedented run of success in a league designed to blunt that kind of success. I don’t follow Rodgers enough to know if his situation is similar, but I do know he throws a football in a way that is obviously superior to any other I’ve seen, and apparently Brady see’s that too. Marino comes to mind but then there’s the mobility and throwing on the run factor with Rodgers. Like Brady said, it’s fun to talk about but impossible to resolve, especially since it is not really a head to head kind of sport. It should be a good game. Similar to Patriots/Chiefs. Packers fans are clearly down on McCarthy, but this is the kind of team/offense that the Patriots struggle with. There will no doubt be gadget plays and creative use of personnel, as Green Bay needs the game more, especially after last week. The Packers will likely have an intense week of preparation (the fear factor) and surprise the Patriots, and the Patriots will have to figure it out and come back, similar to the game in Green Bay in 2014. Hopefully this time the Patriots figure it out sooner, and don’t run out of time. It should be clear, dry, and in the mid 40’s Sunday night. Weather won’t be an issue for either team. Get your popcorn ready. Hold the cheese. 😉

  40. Rodgers inspires me to. Inspires me to want to get my family to hate me, inspires me to drop a deuce, and inspires me to feel entitled to everything.

  41. I’m inspired that the team is improving, and we can go toe to toe with elite teams on the road. The Packers are still playing for something this year.

    It’s not like we got blown out at home.

  42. I’m a Packer fan but Brady is the greatest, at least in the modern era. Both of these guys are amazing to watch. Rodgers has more “wow” athletic moments but Brady just gets the job done.

  43. jman967 says:
    October 30, 2018 at 2:33 pm
    GoodellMustGo says:
    October 30, 2018 at 1:41 pm
    steelcurtainn says:
    October 30, 2018 at 1:24 pm
    How cute! Except Rodgers don’t cheat.
    —-
    Neither does Brady.
    The Steelers do though. Dr Rydze says hi. 🙂 And your HOF QB tainted your first 4 titles by admitting he and his team used illegal PEDs to win titles.”

    Steroids were not illegal to use in the 1970s when the Steelers and other NFL teams used them. They weren’t the first team (that would be the Chargers) to use them and they weren’t the last team to use them. So that doesn’t taint their dynasty, unless you want to rewrite history for every SB winning team based on today’s rules.

    —-
    Legal: Using steroids with a valid prescription for a valid medical reason.
    Was never legal in the NFL or this country: Abusing steroids procured by false prescriptions to gain an athletic edge. In other words, what the Steelers did.

    Tainted because that’s cheating. Steelers players weren’t the only cheaters at the time but they (starting with Rooney and Noll) are responsible for the acceptance of PEDs in the league and it was far more rampant with them. The fact that far more Steelers players died young from heart and other steroid related causes than any other team speaks volumes.

    Bradshaw himself is quoted in a national radio interview saying what he did was wrong. Why would he say such a thing if there was nothing to apologize for?
    There was a reason why he said it.

  44. RogerThat! says:
    October 30, 2018 at 2:59 pm
    Steroids were not illegal to use in the 1970s
    =============
    They were illegal, period.

    —-
    Steroids were a prescription drug at the time. Abuse of a prescription drug for other than its intended purpose (like gaining an athletic edge) was always illegal. It was cheating.

  45. aarons444 says:
    October 30, 2018 at 2:23 pm
    How does Brady cheat?
    =====
    Only his trainer can say for sure.

    —-
    The NFL is already aware of his trainer and has no problems with him or the TB12 clinic whatsoever. The end. 🙂

  46. TruthfulDolphinsFanNotWearingBlinders says:
    October 30, 2018 at 1:25 pm
    Wonder who Olivia Munn thinks the better QB is?
    Hmmmmmmm
    —————–
    I bet she’ll say Brady. 🙂

    Brady’s comeback against the Falcons allowed her Proactiv commercial to be the first one ever aired in a Super Bowl overtime. True story.

  47. Brady cap hit:
    2016: 14 mil
    2017: 17.5
    2018: 22 mil
    2019: 27 mil, which will change when they extend the last yr of his contract.
    ——————————————————————————————–Rodgers:
    2016: 17.5
    2017: 20.3
    2018: 20
    2019: 26.5
    2020: 32.6
    2021: 33.5
    ——————————————————————————————-
    Postseason record:

    Rodgers:
    8-7 1 SB ring

    Brady:
    27-10 5 SB rings
    ——————————————————————————————
    Rodgers does throw a prettier ball though.

  48. Fun stat:
    Tom Brady after 8 games in his age 41 season, just after his MVP season: 6-2, 199-295, 2200 yards, 16 TD, 7 int, 7.5 yards per attempt, 97.6 rating
    Brett Favre after 8 games in his age 41 season, just after his nearly-MVP season: 3-5, 162-258, 1896 yards, 9 TD, 13 int, 7.35 yards per attempt, 75.7 rating

    🙂

    Remains to be seen if Rodgers even has an age 41 season. I wouldn’t hold my breath. Too prone to critical injuries IMO.

  49. Tom Brady is the undisputed goat, and whomever thinks otherwise is simply delusional

    thats just the FACTS, no disrespect to another great QB Aaron Rodgers, no one and I mean no one can sling it like that guy.

  50. Brady or Manning? Brady or Roethlisberger? Brady or Rodgers? Brady or Ryan? Brady or Brees? Brady or …Mahomes?

    Yes, Rodgers is an all-timer, but this “who would you rather have?” question gets asked every year and for the last 18 years there’s only one guy who is always in the question. It’s Brady.

    Brady’s leadership, competitiveness, consistency, pocket-presence, decision-making and situational awareness more than make up for any physical advantages Rodgers has. Rodgers is so talented he thinks he can overcome bad play calls or busted plays. He doesn’t know when the battle is lost, and so he ends up losing the war (getting hurt) almost every year. He also seems to relish his moments (throwing TDs, making great plays) over actually doing what it takes to win. Brady was running to the end zone to celebrate with McCourty after his game-clinching pick 6. Rodgers barely smiled when he had to hand off for the TD after Graham’s TD got called back. Who would you go to war with, who do you know won’t give up no matter how dire the situation. Brady is my choice every time.

  51. Neither does Brady
    _____________________
    Wasn’t Brady on the team during spygate and deflategate? Wasn’t he then on the team when New England was docked draft picks and fined for cheating. Then he’s a cheater. End of story. 6.

  52. Wasn’t Brady on the team during spygate and deflategate? Wasn’t he then on the team when New England was docked draft picks and fined for cheating. Then he’s a cheater. End of story.
    ——————-
    OJ was aquitted, therefore he was innocent. End of story. Simple to be simple

  53. steelcurtainn says:
    October 30, 2018 at 3:34 pm
    Neither does Brady
    _____________________
    Wasn’t Brady on the team during spygate and deflategate? Wasn’t he then on the team when New England was docked draft picks and fined for cheating. Then he’s a cheater. End of story. 6.
    ——
    Cmon now. 🙂 I mean REAL cheating like the Steelers did, not the completely fabricated, embellished and made-up kind that the Patriots were accused. That doesn’t count as cheating silly! 🙂

    5 legit titles > 6 tainted ones anyday

    Cheers!

    🙂

  54. aarons444 says:
    October 30, 2018 at 3:34 pm
    Fun stat:

    Everyone sees through your smug little smiley face.

    ——
    U mad? 🙂 🙂 🙂

  55. Love to see the usual hater crew showing up on New England threads time after time with no interest in talking about FB, just criticize Pats or their fans(who cares?). What else do they have? Not hilarious, just sad.

  56. GoodellMustGo says:
    October 30, 2018 at 1:21 pm
    Lockport Lax says:
    October 30, 2018 at 1:15 pm
    Bet the Packers are studying what the Bill’s did to shut brady right down last night…
    —————-
    They were in nickel and dime all night because there was absolutely zero threat to run. Patterson did well but he isn’t a running back 🙂 Gronk is also not healthy, and that was obvious.

    When Michel comes back what the Bills did won’t work very well if they try again.

    _____

    I don’t think the NE running game matters at all.

    If GB beats NE it will be because Gronk (and some obscurity like Josh Gordon) doesn’t go off. Which is typical for a GB defense of late, but Pettine seems better.

    Now if GB can run the ball consistently on NE, look out.

  57. Packers fans always talking about rings over here in the North, when they can’t win argument or they are debating and asking a question they all ready know the answer to like its going to enhance their football IQ. “How many Rings your team have?” Well just like the A A Ron rule when Barr hit Rodgers a year ago this one is gonna burn you too. BRADY is the GOAT of all time because he has more rings than Mr R E L A X!Now don’t back peddle Packers fans, you cannot change the rule now to fit your argument. You done messed up A A Ron about always talkin about rings ha aha aha aha aha ahaaaaa

    Blow Pack Blow no chance at a Super Bowl

  58. Northern California breeds the best QBs.

    Western PA just called. Seems Johnny Unitas,Joe Montana,Joe Namath,and Dan Marino (off the top of my head) tend to disagree with you.

  59. No one is disputing Aaron Rodgers ability. It is clearly great. Love to watch him play. The ball comes out of his hand really nice and all that, but…

    When you want to talk about winning though (which is the whole reason they play all the games), Brady helps you do that better than anyone with ALL of the qualities he possesses. Don’t let anyone excuse-make on here—he’s taken some bad defenses and average offensive weapons to Super Bowls many times over. No one else can do that like him. Not Brees, not Rodgers, not Roethlisberger. And those guys are great QB’s

  60. I like Aaron, he’s got a good relationship with his family. And you can watch how nicely Aaron Rodgers treated a fan with Cancer who was waiting for an autograph.

  61. ragnarthemagnificent says:
    October 30, 2018 at 2:36 pm
    He see’s how the Packa’s consistently choke in the playoffs and it inspires him to practice harder, priceless.

    The teams could have met more often if the Packa’s made it to the SB but…..
    /////////////////

    Another Viking fan throwing shade at the Packers. No pride, no shame, just arrogance.

    Typical.

  62. aarons444 says:
    October 30, 2018 at 4:25 pm
    U mad? 🙂 🙂 🙂
    =====

    Never ceases to amaze how triggered you Patsies are by Rodgers talk.
    ———
    Not triggered at all. None of us hate Rodgers. We can recognize greatness when we see it.

    Seems it’s quite the opposite with Brady critics. Anything Brady does is spun to make it look like he is a Trent Dilfer without the coach. It really is quite entertaining 🙂

  63. eddievortex says:
    October 30, 2018 at 1:29 pm
    I have to agree with TheWizard…

    I make not like Brady but I respect what he’s done and continues to do. The biggest thing to me about Brady is I’ve never heard him talk down about any opponent.

    Well there was that one time with the “read the rule book” comment. That only cost him 4 games plus,plus. It’s like they were just crouching, waiting like jealous, sniveling cowards for any chink in the armor.

  64. I don’t think the NE running game matters at all.

    If GB beats NE it will be because Gronk (and some obscurity like Josh Gordon) doesn’t go off. Which is typical for a GB defense of late, but Pettine seems better.

    Now if GB can run the ball consistently on NE, look out.
    ——-
    It matters a lot actually. Its why they beat the Chiefs. They had zero threat of a running game last night and it showed.

    I expect GB to do what every team tries to do- throw darts and slants at the Patriots linebackers and exploit speed matchups with the occasional shot downfield.

  65. mrdarkness13 says:
    October 30, 2018 at 4:15 pm
    Packers fans always talking about rings over here in the North, when they can’t win argument or they are debating and asking a question they all ready know the answer to like its going to enhance their football IQ. “How many Rings your team have?” Well just like the A A Ron rule when Barr hit Rodgers a year ago this one is gonna burn you too. BRADY is the GOAT of all time because he has more rings than Mr R E L A X!Now don’t back peddle Packers fans, you cannot change the rule now to fit your argument. You done messed up A A Ron about always talkin about rings ha aha aha aha aha ahaaaaa

    Blow Pack Blow no chance at a Super Bowl

    —–

    Classic deflection.

    You have no pinnacle achievements as a fan of a certain team so let’s minimize what your jealous of.

    Just stop….

  66. Brady is great but again NO QUARTERBACK IN THE SUPERBOWL ERA HAS BENEFITED FROM HAVING A DEFENSE THAT CAN KEEP THE OTHER TEAM FROM SCORING more than him. It’s a fact. 11 top 10 scoring defenses 6 top 5 scoring defenses and 2 times number 1 (and the Pats won the Superbowl in both years. Manning, Rodgers, and especially Brees have had to lead there team to a score almost every time they step on the field. So you can give all of the stats and team records you want and Brady is great but football is the ultimate team sport and no QB has benefited from that more than Brady. Those are the FACTS!

  67. andrwken says:

    You don’t get as good as Rodgers, at this level, without practice. As I recall he spent 3 years “honing his game”.
    ###

    He spent 3 years “honing his game” because he wasn’t good enough to beat out the old guy.

    And I was comparing Rodgers to Brady when it comes to work ethic.

    Brady in preseason actually threw 44 passes and played in game 2 and 3. Rodgers threw 4 passes in preseason.

    It’s arrogance to think that was all the playing time that Rodgers needed to get ready for the regular season – especially considering he missed most of last season too.

    Brady has a championship attitude towards the game. Rodgers is just worried about his next State Farm commercial and making kissy face with his washed up race car driver.

  68. riverace19 says:
    October 30, 2018 at 1:31 pm
    What happens if you switch Rodgers and Brady and Tom has to play with dumb dumb McCarthy as his coach… we would be talking about everything 180 degrees opposite

    ——————————————

    You gotta love arguments based on hypothetical situations……I guess when reality does support your position then just make up your own reality.

  69. Lockport Lax says:
    October 30, 2018 at 1:15 pm

    Bet the Packers are studying what the Bill’s did to shut brady right down last night…

    Bet BILL is gonna be studying what the Bills (no apostrophe) did to shut down Brady (caps for proper noun) last night.

    Besides, they didn’t “shut down Brady.” Brady shut down Brady with bad throws that seemed to plague him all night. I expect Brady to be studying Brady this week.

  70. Poppy123 says:
    October 30, 2018 at 5:41 pm
    Brady is great but again NO QUARTERBACK IN THE SUPERBOWL ERA HAS BENEFITED FROM HAVING A DEFENSE THAT CAN KEEP THE OTHER TEAM FROM SCORING more than him.
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    Earth to Poppy…

    You make it sound like Brady only needed to lead a single TD drive to win….

    Last year, the Patriots lost the SB to the Eagles 41 – 33. Not a great defensive effort.

    The year before, the Patriots were trailing the Falcons 21 – 3 (18 points) at half time in their last SB win. At the end of the 3rd quarter, they were down 28 – 9 (19 points). They won the game because Brady was able to overcome the 19 point deficit at the start of the 4th quarter.

    The SB win before that, Brady had to overcome a 10 point deficit in the 4th quarter to win the game.

    Somehow, your claim of defensive domination appears to be grossly overrated.

  71. Game winning drives in the playoffs?

    Brady has one every 3.4 playoff games.

    Rodgers has one every 8 playoff games.

    Fourth Quarter comebacks in the playoffs?

    Brady has one every 4.6 playoff games.

    Rodgers has one every 16 playoff games.

    Now you know why one is the GOAT and the other is just a great QB.

  72. Poppy123 says:
    October 30, 2018 at 5:41 pm
    Brady is great but again NO QUARTERBACK IN THE SUPERBOWL ERA HAS BENEFITED FROM HAVING A DEFENSE THAT CAN KEEP THE OTHER TEAM FROM SCORING more than him. It’s a fact. 11 top 10 scoring defenses 6 top 5 scoring defenses and 2 times number 1 (and the Pats won the Superbowl in both years. Manning, Rodgers, and especially Brees have had to lead there team to a score almost every time they step on the field. So you can give all of the stats and team records you want and Brady is great but football is the ultimate team sport and no QB has benefited from that more than Brady. Those are the FACTS!

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    Sounds more like opinion than fact 🙂

    And quite wrong come to think of it. Did you know Joe Montana has never won or even appeared in a Super Bowl without a top 8 scoring defense? Bet ya didn’t! 🙂

    And as any intelligent football fan knows, scoring can’t be used alone in a vacuum to evaluate how good a defense is. It’s yards, time of possession, third down conversions allowed, making big plays like turnovers and sacks AND scoring. All together.

    The Patriot defense in no way shape or form has been a top unit in this league in over a decade. The 2014 defense was quite good but not elite. It’s been 14 years in fact since Brady truly has benefited from a great defense, the way PEDton Manning did when he stunk in his 2015 playoff run and won a ring anyway.

  73. Besides it’s not NE fans who are bringing this up. It’s the media. They’re the ones hyping the game Sunday night as one to settle which QB is the greatest. That argument was settled when Malcolm Butler intercepted a pass in a Super Bowl not that long ago. 🙂

  74. Now you know why one is the GOAT and the other is just a great QB.
    ——-
    Rodgers can be right up there with Brady. But he has to stay healthy, play longer and win titles. So far the evidence – especially on the first one- suggests that is a tall order.

  75. Erin Rogers is a joke – he has to resort to trying to draw defenses offsides because he cannot run a real offense; he should be flagged for unsportmanlike conduct – taunting- because that is an unprofessional action. Play the game like a man, Erin. The only thing you induce is vomit or uncontrolled runs.

  76. I would think Rodgers would say the same of Brady. I can’t imagine either one of them would say “hell yeah I’m the GOAT.” Class acts, both of them.

  77. Brady has to find inspiration and goals from other QBs knowing he’s not as gifted as most of them. Why he’s achieving more that they are is because he’s continually finding ways to compensate for what he lacks by learning from them. It requires a healthy amount of humility, self-awareness and drive to accept that. He talks a lot about Cam Newton and Rodgers.They are freaky athletes compared to him.

  78. Game winning drives in the playoffs?
    Brady has one every 3.4 playoff games.
    Rodgers has one every 8 playoff games.
    Fourth Quarter comebacks in the playoffs?
    Brady has one every 4.6 playoff games.
    Rodgers has one every 16 playoff games.
    =====

    Rodgers post-season QB rating – 99.4 (#5 all-time, #3 active)

    Brady post-season QB rating – 90.9 (#13 all-time, #6 active… behind the mighty Alex Smith by a wide margin [97.4])

    Brady plays for the dynasty of his era. The Pats have only been embarrassed a handful of times in the post-season this century. McCarthy gets taken behind the woodshed annually. You can set you watch to it.

  79. And quite wrong come to think of it. Did you know Joe Montana has never won or even appeared in a Super Bowl without a top 8 scoring defense? Bet ya didn’t!
    ======

    2017 Patriots – #5 scoring D
    2016 Patriots – #1
    2014 Patriots – #8
    2011 Patriots – #15
    2007 Patriots – #4
    2004 Patriots – #2
    2003 Patriots – #1
    2001 Patriots – #6

    .. Is the story that much different?

  80. aarons444 says:
    October 31, 2018 at 9:38 am
    And quite wrong come to think of it. Did you know Joe Montana has never won or even appeared in a Super Bowl without a top 8 scoring defense? Bet ya didn’t!
    ======
    2017 Patriots – #5 scoring D
    2016 Patriots – #1
    2014 Patriots – #8
    2011 Patriots – #15
    2007 Patriots – #4
    2004 Patriots – #2
    2003 Patriots – #1
    2001 Patriots – #6
    ————————
    I was responding to the point that no other QB in the Super Bowl era has ever “benefited” from his defense like Brady has – which is clearly false.
    2015 Peyton Manning is an even better example of that. He was terrible and won a ring anyway only because his defense was historically great.

    Out of the list above, only 2003 and 2004 and perhaps 2014 I’d consider a great Patriot defense. The rest – not really.

  81. Brady post-season QB rating – 90.9 (#13 all-time, #6 active… behind the mighty Alex Smith by a wide margin [97.4])
    —————–
    You’re not really comparing stats of a QB who has played 37 playoff games with a QB who has only won 2 of his 7 playoff games are you?

    #CmonMan

    🙂

  82. GoodellMustGo says:
    October 31, 2018 at 10:16 am
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    aarons444 says:
    October 31, 2018 at 9:38 am
    And quite wrong come to think of it. Did you know Joe Montana has never won or even appeared in a Super Bowl without a top 8 scoring defense? Bet ya didn’t!
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    2017 Patriots – #5 scoring D
    2016 Patriots – #1
    2014 Patriots – #8
    2011 Patriots – #15
    2007 Patriots – #4
    2004 Patriots – #2
    2003 Patriots – #1
    2001 Patriots – #6
    ————————
    I was responding to the point that no other QB in the Super Bowl era has ever “benefited” from his defense like Brady has – which is clearly false.
    2015 Peyton Manning is an even better example of that. He was terrible and won a ring anyway only because his defense was historically great.
    Out of the list above, only 2003 and 2004 and perhaps 2014 I’d consider a great Patriot defense. The rest – not really.

    ————————-
    The mighty 2001 Patriots defense which supposedly carried Brady to a title benefited from a last place schedule and was in the bottom 3rd of the league in many yardage categories
    I’ll assume you’re not silly enough to suggest that the 07 Patriots defense was carrying Brady that year. Moving on. 🙂
    The 2011 Patriots was historically awful so they didn’t carry squat. Moving on.
    The 2016 Patriots played only 1 good offense the entire regular season.
    The 2017 Patriots – see 2011. 🙂

    So funny how excruciating it is for many people to give Brady credit for anything! 🙂

  83. Poppy123 says:
    October 30, 2018 at 5:41 pm
    ….So you can give all of the stats and team records you want and Brady is great but football is the ultimate team sport and no QB has benefited from that more than Brady.
    ——————————————————–

    No doubt that Brady has benefited from hard work and execution of teammates through the years; also no doubt that Tom Brady’s teammates have greatly benefited from being on the same team as Tom Brady, the consensus Greatest NFL Player of All-Time, as well as the consensus Greatest NFL Leader of All-Time.

  84. Brady is a better leader.Being a great QB requires it.Rodgers throws some good hail marys(basically what he is famous for) but he doesn’t inspire people to play their best.Look when Brady was suspended how his teammates looked into the camera and said “we are playing for you Tom”.Give me a talented leader any day over athletic qbs,they win more SBs.Whether we like it or not a QB is judged by his wins,always has been always will be.Like any leader of any TEAM sport is.


  85. aarons444 says:
    October 31, 2018 at 9:28 am
    =====

    Rodgers post-season QB rating – 99.4 (#5 all-time, #3 active)

    Brady post-season QB rating – 90.9 (#13 all-time, #6 active… behind the mighty Alex Smith by a wide margin [97.4])
    ————————————

    Big deal. Julian Edelman has a 135.4 post-season QB rating (fact!). That is why, in a tight playoff game, so many experts have said they would like to have Edelman at QB (maybe not a fact).

  86. One guy talks about winning postseason FB games, the other talks about postseason QB Rating.

    #doesn’t get it

  87. steelcurtainn says:
    October 30, 2018 at 1:24 pm
    How cute! Except Rodgers don’t cheat.

    ================

    Still waiting for the Steelers illegal PSI punishment…or their admitted illegal ball tampering with a Giants football. Both proven and both forgotten.

  88. Out of the list above, only 2003 and 2004 and perhaps 2014 I’d consider a great Patriot defense.
    =====

    Rodgers has played with 1 (singular) top 5 defense… and he won the Super Bowl that year.

  89. aarons444 says:

    October 31, 2018 at 9:38 am

    And quite wrong come to think of it. Did you know Joe Montana has never won or even appeared in a Super Bowl without a top 8 scoring defense? Bet ya didn’t!
    ======

    2017 Patriots – #5 scoring D
    2016 Patriots – #1
    2014 Patriots – #8
    2011 Patriots – #15
    2007 Patriots – #4
    2004 Patriots – #2
    2003 Patriots – #1
    2001 Patriots – #6

    .. Is the story that much different?

    ================

    DVOA is the better stat for defense evaluation, which I indisputable proved to you before.

    2017 Pats defense was 29th in yards allowed, which is objectively terrible. And they were 31st in defensive DVOA yet 5th in points allowed. Why? Because they were terrible against good teams. Against their best 9 opponents last year their pretty 18.5 points allowed average jumped to 26.0, which is bad (would have ranked 31st overall). Example 1A is how the Super Bowl went when they got smoked by Nick Foles. They were no where near a “top 5” defense.

    And this year isn’t much different. Holding the Bills to 6 points last week means NOTHING when you can’t stop a good offense (which is what teams face in the playoffs).

  90. aarons444 says:
    October 31, 2018 at 12:15 pm
    Out of the list above, only 2003 and 2004 and perhaps 2014 I’d consider a great Patriot defense.
    =====
    Rodgers has played with 1 (singular) top 5 defense… and he won the Super Bowl that year.
    —————-
    Rodgers has not yet won his conference with awful defenses. Brady has. Twice (2011 and 2017)

  91. Game winning drives in the playoffs?
    Brady has one every 3.4 playoff games.
    Rodgers has one every 8 playoff games.
    =====

    2009 Wild Card – down 31-10 after the Cardinals 1st drive in the 3rdQ.. 4 2nd half td passes to force overtime
    2013 Wild Card – scored his final possession, never got the ball back
    2014 NFCC Game – scored his final possession, never got the ball back (19-7 lead after 56 minutes of play!)
    2015 Divisional – scored his final possession, never got the ball back
    2016 Divisonal – 2 FG drives to close out the game, 1 to take the lead with 1:33 to go, 1 to ice the game at the gun

    Guess he should go out and play some FS? Maybe that would give him a chance is some of these games?

  92. Rodgers has not yet won his conference with awful defenses. Brady has. Twice (2011 and 2017)
    =====

    #5 scoring D in 2017

    I’ll take that all day long with Rodgers

  93. Chill_Donahue says:
    October 31, 2018 at 12:15 pm
    aarons444 says:
    October 31, 2018 at 9:38 am
    And quite wrong come to think of it. Did you know Joe Montana has never won or even appeared in a Super Bowl without a top 8 scoring defense? Bet ya didn’t!
    ======
    2017 Patriots – #5 scoring D
    2016 Patriots – #1
    2014 Patriots – #8
    2011 Patriots – #15
    2007 Patriots – #4
    2004 Patriots – #2
    2003 Patriots – #1
    2001 Patriots – #6
    .. Is the story that much different?
    ================
    DVOA is the better stat for defense evaluation, which I indisputable proved to you before.
    2017 Pats defense was 29th in yards allowed, which is objectively terrible. And they were 31st in defensive DVOA yet 5th in points allowed. Why? Because they were terrible against good teams. Against their best 9 opponents last year their pretty 18.5 points allowed average jumped to 26.0, which is bad (would have ranked 31st overall). Example 1A is how the Super Bowl went when they got smoked by Nick Foles. They were no where near a “top 5” defense.
    ——————————————-
    Yup. Also the bottom third of the NFL in third down conversions allowed.

    That is even more egregious when you know that a defense that can’t get off the field keeps GOAT Tom Brady from getting on the field. In a way every touchdown allowed on a long drive may be a 14 point swing not allowing Brady and offense to do the same.

    It’s too funny that people really believe Brady is nothing more than a Trent Dilfer without a defense or without his coach. That’s the way they talk anyway.

  94. If Aaron Rodgers was a QB in New England, would they have the same number of championships? I don’t see why not.

  95. If Aaron Rodgers was a QB in New England, would they have the same number of championships? I don’t see why not.
    =====

    Belichick would never lose a game.

  96. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    October 31, 2018 at 12:43 pm
    If Aaron Rodgers was a QB in New England, would they have the same number of championships?..
    ———————————————————

    Yes, the Pats would have the same number of championships, but I don’t think Rodgers would be happy having to back-up Tom Brady, the Greatest NFL Player of All-Time, in New England. I suspect Rodgers is happier under-achieving, year after year, in Green Bay.

  97. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:

    October 31, 2018 at 12:43 pm

    If Aaron Rodgers was a QB in New England, would they have the same number of championships? I don’t see why not.

    =============================

    Weird to take shots at Rodgers like that. You’ve repeatedly said a high school QB could have brought Pats the same success as Brady….and now apparently the same success as Rodgers would have. Very odd.

  98. jman967 says:
    October 30, 2018 at 1:22 pm
    Hate is a strong word. I dislike Brady because he’s wildly arrogant but plays it down in front of the cameras like he’s a choir boy. Rodgers is arrogant and doesn’t care who knows it or who cares about it. I can respect that, though I’m not a fan of it.
    ————–
    Sorry. I have to chime in on this. If Brady isn’t arrogant with the cameras than what other media avenues are available that would lead you (or anybody else for that matter) to conclude that Brady is arrogant? Anybody who lives within ear shot of New England media would have a hard time concluding Brady is arrogant. For the ones that do they can most likely be lumped in with everybody else outside of New England drinking the aid.

    Despite any of Brady’s supposed limitations, arrogance isn’t even close to the top of the list.

  99. aarons444 says:
    October 31, 2018 at 1:02 pm
    If Aaron Rodgers was a QB in New England, would they have the same number of championships? I don’t see why not.
    =====

    Belichick would never lose a game.
    ====================================
    We know that isn’t true. Everybody knows the only reason NE wins is because they cheat.

    Heck. Some slob in Buffalo took time to write it on a piece of notebook paper before the game last week. You know, in case anybody forgot.

  100. FTR, as a Pats fan I wouldn’t be crying in my milk to have Rodgers play for the Pats. He’s an awesome QB and could eventually be looking at Brady in the rear view mirror.

  101. As I was reading through this, I couldn’t help but notice that the usual Packers/Rodgers haters have joined the usual Pats haters in one place at one time. Could we
    somehow shut and lock the proverbial door on this thread and let the two groups of haters just bang away on each other in cyber space?

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