Former Giants exec says it’s time to pull plug on Eli Manning

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Eli Manning has taken a lot of heat, from a lot of directions.

And the latest to take shots at the Giants quarterback had a hand in not putting enough talent around him to help him succeed.

Former Giants vice president of player evaluation Marc Ross appeared on the NFL Network, and said it was time for his former employer to bench Manning.

I think that’s what you have to do,’’ Ross said, via the New York Post. “This is where they are right now. Their fortunes are tied to Kyle Lauletta, who was drafted in the fourth round out of Richmond. Wow. This is what they’re really banking on. They can’t get worse. You might as well try something different and see what happens. . . .

“In the NFL you have to move forward. You can’t go backwards. At this point I think everybody kind of knows that you have to move forward. You have to move on if you want to win. What is your goal? Is it to win? Make people happy? Or sacrifice other things to keep reputations in line?’’

Ross was with the Giants from 2008 until this offseason, when the former college scouting director was fired along with former General Manager Jerry Reese.

That means Ross would have had a chance to give them more options, such as the 2017 third-rounder they spent on quarterback Davis Webb (who was cut this year). Ross was also part of the decision-making process which led to back-to-back first-rounders on cornerback Eli Apple (traded to the Saints for a fourth rounder) and left tackle Ereck Flowers (moved to the right, benched, then cut).

That kind of resume makes it clear why Ross is available on a weekday morning to say things on television shows.

34 responses to “Former Giants exec says it’s time to pull plug on Eli Manning

  1. .
    Since 2010 the three New York teams, Jets, Giants and Bills, have brought drafting futility to new levels. It’s like the state is a “bust magnet”. I would be hard pressed to pick which team is most inept.
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  2. You want to know why they took Kyle Lauletta in the 4th rd? It was because he was expected to go in the 6th rd and ALL the in-depth “smart” media were telling us Belichick would def draft him and thus take him in the 5th rd to be certain of getting him. Pats did take a close look at Kyle, and Giants were trying to be clever. But they’re the Giants. Same Giants who should’ve kept Coughlin (and same Giants who him so badly), and same Giants who should’ve been doing drafting a top franchise QB a couple of years ago.

  3. It’s not easy for anyone when a star QB is at or beyond his productive years. The best scenario is when the QB is the first to recognize it, and walks away. It was clear last season that Eli didn’t want to take any hits. Time and time again, he would just fall to the ground the moment he felt pressure was nearby. He didn’t even have to get touched. He just fell to the ground. It was ugly and embarrassing. The parties should have gotten together in the off-season and figured out how to do this. But perhaps Eli is trying to grab one final paycheck. Or maybe he just can’t walk away on his own. This isn’t the first time this has happened with a player, it just gets a lot harder when it’s a player of Eli’s status. The good news is the Giants will have a shot at a top QB in the draft. Just hope the Giants are good talent evaluators.

  4. Marc Ross has been a bigger problem than Eli EVER will be.

    I’m so glad ‘former’ is attached to his name. You will be forgotten.

    Eli may not be a HOF’r but YOU have 2 SB rings because of HIM.

  5. Ross is a clown – Eli Mae Apple looked horrible with his “new” team and Ereck Flowers is a very big disappointment (but not in the Apple league).

  6. “Ross was also part of the decision-making process which led to back-to-back first-rounders on cornerback Eli Apple (traded to the Saints for a fourth rounder) and left tackle Ereck Flowers (moved to the right, benched, then cut).

    That kind of resume makes it clear why Ross is available on a weekday morning to say things on television shows.”
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    Wow, nice way to sling dirt the messenger. BUT THAT’S NOT HOW THE DRAFT ROOM WORKS. The scouts’ only duty is to compile information about targeted players. The GM and coach (and Giants’ case, the ownership) have the final say on who is drafted.

    As for Apple and Flowers, they both had 1st round TALENT as rated by almost EVERY team. It’s the GM’s job to evaluate those players beyond the physical talent to fit in the NFL – ie GM Reece’s job. It had nothing to do with Marc Ross.

  7. Funny you basically fired a coach for benching Eli……he knew then Eli was about done. NO shame it happens to everyone..sooner or later you’re done. The Giants should have addressed this a couple years ago……but like the cowboys they bury their heads in the sand and just keep thinking it’ll never happen…….well guess what?

  8. ambrosiniwine says:
    October 31, 2018 at 8:21 am
    Ereck Flowers drafted ahead of Todd Gurley.

    Unforgivable.
    ___________________________________________________________________________

    Typically speaking, O Line players are drafted higher than RBs. It’s usually a very bad idea draft RBs so high. This story fits your narrative, but pretty much every team would have made the same choice between the two at the time. O line is much more important.

  9. Marc Ross literally ran the Giants drafts. He may not have been the final decision but was a big part of them. Not to mention, the Giants gave this guy an interview to be GM just to help him get a job along the way. They did right by him even though he was completely inept and was going to get fired. A shame he threw the mess he created right under the bus.

  10. The Reese/Ross first rounders:
    2007 – CB Aaron Ross (Marc Ross not yet VP)
    2008 – S Kenny Phillips
    2009 – WR Hakeem Nicks
    2010 – DE Jason Pierre-Paul
    2011 – CB Prince Amukamara
    2012 – RB David Wilson
    2013 – T Justin Pugh
    2014 – WR Odell Beckham
    2015 – T Ereck Flowers
    2016 – CB Eli Apple
    2017 – TE Evan Engram

    Only OBJ and Engram still with the team, only JPP and OBJ got new contracts after their rookie deal (clear sign of a bust when you don’t get a second contract with the team that drafted you 1st round), and no one on that list stayed consistently healthy.

  11. Isn’t he the one that left them so talent poor overall? Got plenty time to fix it now couch genius

  12. So what type of delusion does it take to defend Eli for his play this season. I was doing it at the beginning of the year, but I’m done being a fool. He’s the problem. Poor OBJ. Dude has to make miraculous catches just to make a difference.

  13. Ross is the guy who helped Reese run this team into the ground post 2011. I think they need to start playing Lauletta as well but nobody should listen to Ross or Reese about anything. All players decline as they age, Eli has done so, but it doesn’t help those players one bit when the guys on their team aren’t anywhere close to being as good as they needed to be. Look at all the draft picks not on the Giants, hell not even in the league, from the Reese and Ross moves. They’re ten times more culpable for the state of the Giants than Manning is…..Manning got his career cut off at the knees by what those fools did.

  14. Yep, I told Giants fans for YEARS that Ross ran the 2008-2013 drafts. Only when Reese stepped back in — already too late — did you land Beckham and a couple others. And he wasn’t any better.

  15. Eli Manning is mediocre at best.
    But don’t expect Kyle Lauletta to be an NFL QB.
    The team needs to tank for two consecutive years.
    Get players and draft a highly regarded QB.

    No sense in half measure like trading for a QB or signing a QB prospect.
    Go all in for 2 horrendous years, then you can be back to being a good team *IF* you draft well. If you draft badly, then you are below .500 and deservedly so.

  16. orangecrush78 says:
    October 31, 2018 at 8:51 am
    ambrosiniwine says:
    October 31, 2018 at 8:21 am
    Ereck Flowers drafted ahead of Todd Gurley.

    Unforgivable.
    ___________________________________________________________________________

    Typically speaking, O Line players are drafted higher than RBs. It’s usually a very bad idea draft RBs so high. This story fits your narrative, but pretty much every team would have made the same choice between the two at the time. O line is much more important.

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    I get what you are saying and generally agree with you, but in moment when I watched the draft I felt Flowers was a big time reach. I know Gurley was coming off the injury, but felt he was a superior talent to Flowers. The right move was to trade down and pick Flowers.

  17. akira1971 says:

    October 31, 2018 at 8:19 am

    Wow, nice way to sling dirt the messenger. BUT THAT’S NOT HOW THE DRAFT ROOM WORKS. The scouts’ only duty is to compile information about targeted players. The GM and coach (and Giants’ case, the ownership) have the final say on who is drafted.

    As for Apple and Flowers, they both had 1st round TALENT as rated by almost EVERY team. It’s the GM’s job to evaluate those players beyond the physical talent to fit in the NFL – ie GM Reece’s job. It had nothing to do with Marc Ross.

    Marc Ross burner account!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  18. “So what type of delusion does it take to defend Eli for his play this season”

    ———–

    Actually watching the games, maybe? Watch the next guy get put in and have the same problems behind that trash O-line and you’ll start saying “Oh, well, he’s a rookie, it’s okay.”

  19. I am quite happy to see this dumpster fire…karma stinks, huh Mara? Eli…any jerseys you want to sell before you’re benched?

  20. backintheday99 says:
    October 31, 2018 at 8:06 am
    Marc Ross has been a bigger problem than Eli EVER will be.

    I’m so glad ‘former’ is attached to his name. You will be forgotten.

    Eli may not be a HOF’r but YOU have 2 SB rings because of HIM.
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    Umm, no. The first part of that statement is correct in that Eli is NOT a HOF’r, but the latter part is incorrect. The Giants have 2 SB rings because of the DEFENSE.

  21. Wasn’t Eli the Super Bowl MVP twice? Of course he had NOTHING to to with winning those games. The posters on here are clowns.

  22. Eli has had a 2 part career

    2004-2011 ….2 Superbowl Wins….Great player
    2012-2018 ….sub par player.

    Giants record last 4 years…Abysmal

    With that record, every player is accountable…No one gets a pass. Especially the most important position on a football team the QB

  23. In fairness, and I say this as someone who doesn’t making a habit of defending the Giants, it’s not like all their recent 1st half of draft picks have been busts. Engram, S. Shephard, Collins, Dav Tomlinson. And while there have been recent exceptions a lot of 3rd round QBs don’t amount to much typically. Author makes a legit point but let’s not act like Mr. Ross has no business talking about this. His opinion is worth hearing out.

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