Jon Gruden reiterates that other players “no doubt” want to play for the Raiders

AP

After Thursday’s disastrous loss to the 49ers in the final Battle of the Bay, Raiders coach Jon Gruden once again suggested that big changes will be coming in the offseason to a team that currently consists of players who at times don’t seem to be all that interested in being members of the Silver and Black.

“I see players after every game we play that want to be Raiders,” Gruden told reporters after the 34-3 debacle in Santa Clara. “That’s been the case my whole life. And I think the brand of the Raiders is an exciting one, and I think a lot of players no doubt do want to play for us in the future. And I’m not gonna speculate any further on that.”

Gruden previously told Howie Long of FOX that players are “dying” to join the Raiders.

“I’m not gonna get into who calls me and who texts me,” Gruden told reporters on Thursday night. “I’ve made a lot of friends in this business over the years. . . . I’m just trying to get people excited about the Oakland Raiders. The Oakland Raiders is a great organization. I know it’s not looking pretty right now. But I’ve heard a lot of negativity over the last six or seven months, and rightfully so. But we’re gonna build a championship football team here, and I know a lot of people as players as fans and in general want to be a part of this.”

Gruden is treading into dangerous territory by talking so openly about players, presumably under contract with other teams, who are telling Gruden that they want to play for the Raiders. Even if Gruden isn’t initiating the discussions — which clearly would amount to tampering — any attempt by a player whose rights are held by another team to tell Gruden that they want to play for the Raiders requires the Raiders to immediately notify those players’ current teams that such unsolicited comments have been made.

While the league rarely investigates instances of tampering (possibly since it happens fairly regularly), Gruden may give the league no choice but to demand that he surrender his cell phone and/or emails for inspection as to whether players who are under contract with other teams have been reaching out to him to express a desire to join the Raiders. If that is indeed happening (as Gruden openly admits it is), the Raiders have a clear duty under the league’s tampering policy to not stand silent and wait for nature to take its course.

Gruden already has mentioned it twice this week. He’d be wise to quit talking about it now. And the league would be wise to start asking pointed questions about the basis for the claims he’s making, because such communications necessarily undermine the current contractual relationship between those players and the teams that employ them.

104 responses to “Jon Gruden reiterates that other players “no doubt” want to play for the Raiders

  1. Well, maybe Gruden’s planning on only coaching the Oakland Raiders. Sounds like he may be looking for work since all those players’ dream job won’t even be available starting two seasons from now.

    Now if he’s talking about the Vegas Raiders, well then, between that and “what happens in Las Vegas stays in Las Vegas,” coupled with the “amenities” of Sin City, well he may be onto something.

  2. Raiders with Gruden = the new Cleveland

    Oh but wait for all those picks. Yeh see what Gruden did to Tampa after he took someone else’s team and won 1 Superbowl. With Gruden at the helm it was down hill from there.

    Raiders the Cleveland of the AFC West

  3. I think Gruden should take a 2 week break from playcalling:

    Early in the 2nd Quarter Doug ran 8 yards on first down, good run good effort by everyone involved. Then Gruden though he had outsmarted the world by calling a PA on 2nd and 2.. and it led to a sack because obviously the Oline is a shell of itself.

    Townsand might be the worst punter to ever suit up for the Raiders, he struggles to kick it even 25 yards. Admit he was a bad selection and take some responsibility for your decisions and cut him, would rather have King moonwalking every other play but atleast he can boom them 40+ consistently.

    I dunno if you can pin the awful defense on Gunther or just pitiful secondary talent outside of Worley, but something has to change. Jelly being hurt has proved his value with how awful theyve been stopping the run while hes been out.

  4. Gruden already has mentioned it twice this week. He’d be wise to quit talking about it now. And the league would be wise to start asking pointed questions about the basis for the claims he’s making, because such communications necessarily undermine the current contractual relationship between those players and the teams that employ them.

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    Funny if Gruden gets investigated then gets penalized the 1st rounders he received from recent trades.

    Anyway – Dez, Kap, and every other unsigned veteran doesn’t count as “wanting to play for the Raiders”. They’re just desperate for work and willing to play anywhere.

  5. Two players he released, Khali Mack thriving with the Bears, and Amari Cooper hopefully will do the same to Cowboys. Wonder where Derek Carr fits in? That is the billion dollar question. Really Gruden should had stayed in the broadcasting booth.

  6. OAK’s “managing general visor” (h/t -RRatto) better take a long, very hard stare in his mirror and ask the guy looking back if he AND his chosen assistants really know wtf they’re about.

    Comments like:”we’re gonna’ build a championship team…”: puh-leeze; sure, they’re gonna’ build a Mtn West Conference championship team.

  7. He’s treading dangerous territory because he knows it’s a lie. If they were to do an investigation they would find no player said “I want to join the Raiders”. That’s like saying the Patriots win fairly.

  8. For those that follow hockey this guy is the Barry Melrose of footbal…
    Barry rode one year of Wayne Gretzky to a 20 plus year announcing career where somehow he became a hockey genius when he was rehired by the Tampa Bay lightening they fired him after 16 games….
    John Gruden rode Tony Dungys players to a Super Bowl and a Monday Night Football gig and somehow became a genius while in the announcing booth now since he’s been rehired the Raiders are 1-7…
    Freaky

  9. yeah, and get the cell phones of Hue, Hurley and Greg Williams, while you’re at it;

    hear owners are tampering lining up begging to hire them, too;

  10. and I’m sure its FA nobody wants to sign, so they are begging him for a job.
    Because its not players under contract with other teams. that would be tampering.

  11. BSPN radio was knocking this quote and laughing at Gruden but seriously, players are going to want to play for the Las Vegas Raiders don’t kid yourselves.

  12. It’s really sad when an older person gets delusional. Gruden has lost it and if he thinks players are dying to be Raiders then why aren’t they? Sad so very sad.

  13. The only players texting him are the 35+ year old free agents that haven’t played in a few years…

  14. the ‘brand of the Raiders”… would it be extra special for the Davis family if the City of Oakland could do like Cleveland & strip the brand from the occupied owner? Send that $ hit to Vegas without the Brand? Oakland get an Expansion team in a few years like Cleveland did & got to keep the Browns name & colors? my personal fantasy at this point… New Team, New Owner, New Stadium in the East Bay like they already have planned, & get to call them the Oakland Raiders?

  15. Gruden is treading into dangerous territory by talking so openly about players, presumably under contract with other teams, who are telling Gruden that they want to play for the Raiders

    He’s making it up, no one wants to play there. Bad head coach, and who knows where they will play before the stadium in Vegas is ready (horrible planning by the buffoon owner)

  16. Gruden shouldn’t have come back to coaching. He is acting like his still is part of the media.

  17. 10 years, Raiders…..this is what you signed up for. 10 years of stupidity and delusion from a guy who is finding out quickly that the game has passed him by.

  18. No doubt! They want to join a contender. Don’t listen to people that tell you the Raiders are 1-7, they are fake news! This is the best, most amazing team in the history of sports, everybody says so. Tom Brady, a great friend of mine, called me and said, “Jon I would leave New England in a heartbeat to play for you, I’d even play for free”.

  19. “I get a lot of phone calls from people that are dying to come play here. I’m just telling you. They’re dying to play for the Raiders, and to have salary-cap space and to have a chance to talk to the people that you REALLY want to wear the silver and black, the guys you REALLY want to wear the silver and black and represent this team, that’s exciting.” -Jon Gruden

    Yeah coach, way to motivate the guys that are currently wearing silver and black.

  20. Why wouldn’t players want to play for the Raiders? Even if they’re bad players, they could make that team and start.
    By the way — where are all those Raiders fans, who after the Raiders gave him all that money, were calling Derek Carr the best QB in the NFL?
    I’d have to say the happiest guy in the NFL must be Khalil Mack. The saddest guy in the NFL must be Jordy Nelson.

  21. I bet if the trade deadline was this week the Raiders wouldn’t be able to field a full roster and Gruden would still say how everyone wants to play for the raiders.

  22. It reminds me a little of Matt Millen. Great football mind who tells awesome stories and was a winner who has rings with 3 different teams. All that people remember about him though is his disastrous time with the Lions. He went from media darling, Fox’s #1 analyst to a bumbling laughingstock. That’s the path Chucky’s on right now.

  23. Yes Jon, but when you look at which players WANT to be raiders it occurs that those are the players you don’t want on your team. 53 players all wanting to stick it to the man! There’s a formula for success. You need real players but more important, a real coach. You’re more like the Trent Dilfer of coaches.

  24. How concerned did Mark Davis look in the owners box about his decision to hire this dude? He’s been bankrupted by a professional salesman who the game’s passed by. Gruden is clearly trying to stave off a fan and organizational mutiny by claiming that he can attract quality players and blowing sunshine at his boss’ wonderful brand. I know what I saw last night – this is a train wreck of a team with an unutilized front office. It’s filled with players who’ve quit on their coach.Take it from a lifelong Browns fan, I can tell.

  25. Troy Aikman kept saying these Raiders remind him of his Cowboys team in 1989. Jimmy Johnson took over a team that had a great history but had been down for a few years. Jimmy had to tear the thing apart, and they went 1-15 that first season. Those of us who don’t understand the way it works, didn’t quite understand what Jimmy was doing when he traded the popular Herschel Walker for all those draft picks. Jimmy Johnson was being ridiculed by the media, just like Gruden is today. I’m super excited about what Gruden is doing. I’m also old enough to have seen this happen a few times. The only difference now is that Gruden is making $100 million and there are a lot of people in the media who are obviously very jealous. I completely understand that too. I actually think we should get congress involved in this investigation. It’s bigger than Watergate. Probably not as big as deflategate though.

  26. Other players that want to play for the Raiders…let’s see, Derrick Johnson, Dez Bryant, Jamaal Charles(oh wait, he retired), Kapernick, Chad Kelly…yep, no doubt, lot’s of players want to play for the Raiders.

  27. charliecharger says:
    November 2, 2018 at 7:58 am
    Troy Aikman kept saying these Raiders remind him of his Cowboys team in 1989. Jimmy Johnson took over a team that had a great history but had been down for a few years. Jimmy had to tear the thing apart, and they went 1-15 that first season. Those of us who don’t understand the way it works, didn’t quite understand what Jimmy was doing when he traded the popular Herschel Walker for all those draft picks. Jimmy Johnson was being ridiculed by the media, just like Gruden is today. I’m super excited about what Gruden is doing. I’m also old enough to have seen this happen a few times. The only difference now is that Gruden is making $100 million and there are a lot of people in the media who are obviously very jealous. I completely understand that too. I actually think we should get congress involved in this investigation. It’s bigger than Watergate. Probably not as big as deflategate though.

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    Nothing is as big as deflategate. It was everything that people made it into.

  28. Pro sports has the best marketing ever. Imagine if you went to a restaurant and the food was only good 1 out of every 10 times. You’d never go back after the first bad experience. Same with mechanic, doctor, grocery store. You name it. The raiders have been a train wreck for most of the last 3 decades. Why are fans still watching? They deserve better. If I’m a ticket holder,no way I go to the games. Also, not watching broadcast and not buying merchandise. I’ll start watching when it’s a quality product. If you’re one of the watch no matter what fans, you’re part of the problem. Vote with your wallet people. Don’t let this terribly run organization take your money for nothing.

  29. charliecharger says:
    November 2, 2018 at 7:58 am
    Troy Aikman kept saying these Raiders remind him of his Cowboys team in 1989. Jimmy Johnson took over a team that had a great history but had been down for a few years. Jimmy had to tear the thing apart, and they went 1-15 that first season. Those of us who don’t understand the way it works, didn’t quite understand what Jimmy was doing when he traded the popular Herschel Walker for all those draft picks.

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    Slow your roll. There are some major differences. The Herschel Walker trade was the largest player trade in the history of the National Football League. Including Walker and a transaction involving the San Diego Chargers, the trade eventually involved 18 players and draft picks.

    On top of that Jimmy Johnson hit on virtually every pick.

    There will never be another trade like that in the NFL and to just blindly assume that Gruden is going to do the same is some next level cool aid.

  30. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again…….Gruden has the greatest “Agent”in the history of the NFL……he is simply a character from the WWE and the Raiders have 9 more years of this to pay for…….what a train wreck

  31. “I see players after every game we play that want to be Raiders,” Gruden told reporters after the 34-3 debacle in Santa Clara

    Maybe if it was Paxton Lynch, and Nathan Peterman. Even Dez Bryant is saying he wants no part of this train wreck.

  32. I think the commentary about tampering is overblown. It is the media driven obsession with things like deflategate that just leave everyone with egg on their faces. Gruden has had a rough start, both in games and especially in the media. He wants to push back to counter a lot of what has been written. Easy to understand and harmless. Now the league should investigate him? Right. That will keep the fans respect for the NFL at a record high.

  33. What a thrilling Goodell Bowl this was. I can count on one hand the number of times I’ve seen an NFL team flat out quit on the field. One was when the Eagles under Vick blew out the Redskins on MNF, and Shanahan walked off the field with a bright red face in a picture immortalized by the Washington Post. Last night was another.

  34. He’s not entirely wrong, either.

    Raiders money is just as green as everyone else and you’ll get to live it up in Vegas for 4-5 months a year.

  35. Sure, keep telling yourself that and maybe it will come true. I mean who wouldnt want to be a Raider? No idea where you will play next year, a narcissistic-psychopath head coach and an owner with a bowl cut. Who wouldn’t want to play there.

  36. Raiders fans only hope of getting him out before the 10 year contract is up is if he totally loses it and gets institutionalized. They just might catch a break the way he’s been talking lately.

  37. The reason Gruden was successful his first time in Oakland was because of Al Davis. Davis had all the player control and Gruden had to coach what he was given. He was good at that, but he didn’t like it. He wanted more control, he wanted to pick his own players. Al shipped him to Tampa for picks and if I remember right $100k. Gruden has full control and after winning with the previous regime’s players, he ran the team into the ground an was fired.
    Enter Mark Davis trying to be a better Al Davis. He brings back Gruden, but without the guardrails Al had in place for him. This is looking like an enhanced version of the Tampa melt down.
    To all the people sipping the Gruden Kool-Aid, how many pro bowl players has he ever drafted? 3. How many of those became Pro Bowlers while on a Gruden coached team? 1. He’s a .522 lifetime winning coach. That’s 8 wins above mediocrity. He has just 3 more wins and 6 fewer losses than the coach he replaced. But just “Trust the process”

  38. You never know with idiot Mark Davis but I would be surprised if Gruden’s 10 year contract didnt have a buyout clause. Man, Vegas is going to eat this team for breakfast.

  39. Queue Chucky doing Stuart Smalley’s Daily Affirmation intro: “I’m good enough. I’m smart enough. And, dog-gonnit, people like me.”

  40. Um, the Raiders players currently on the team, dont want to play for the Raiders. It’s a shame this is the big story, bigger story is Nick Mullens. He played great. Does anyone else think that any future contracts Mullens signs for big money down the road should owe a percentage to Chuckie? There are not that many coaches (now that Hue is gone) who could uninspire such a flat and effortless performance. That last TD it looked like the RB was running around tackling dummies in a drill during practice. Never seen that before, but it was pretty funny.

  41. Aside from being a bad HC and terrible at personnel/drafting, Gruden also has a massive out-of-control ego and is a liar and backstabber.

    Nothing that I (or any other knowledgeable Raider fan who doesn’t wear blinders) didn’t know before Son-of-Al brought Gruden back as part of his cynical publicity stunt.

  42. 1. Props to the guy above comparing Gruden to Barry Melrose, it’s a perfect comparison so far.

    2. For all the blather on this board, I think Gruden is right and the attraction to the Raiders is Las Vegas. These guys are all young millionaires, mostly dumb and full of fun. Where would you rather be in your 20s, Las Vegas or Minneapolis?

  43. Gruden is just tanking. He is hoping to get “his” kind of players in for next season. I’m shocked that Carr is still there!

  44. As ridiculous as it may sound, he is right.

    Anyone coming to play for him will be signing on as a free agent

    And any “big name” free agent generally gets overpaid vs. players in current contracts

    Plus Nevada does not have a state income tax (other NFL states that don’t = FL TX TN WA)

    So why not get overpaid, not pay income tax for half of your games AND get to do it in Las Vegas?

    I know some will say “because you can’t win a championship with Gruden”

    Which may be true

    But plenty of players will take the extra load of cash

  45. Jon Gruden has finally destroyed the legend of the former NFL head coach, just sitting in a TV booth and rejecting numerous job offers all because of that one Super Bowl win years ago. You know Bill Cowher and Tony Dungy resent Gruden like crazy right now!

  46. Greg Williams: I’m going to say an unbelievable statement about the NFL, my current team and tell everyone 4 teams wanted me as HC without interviewing. Nobody will ever say such an salacious whopper ever again in the history of the National Football league. 5 mins later. John Gruden: Oh yeah, hold my beer.

  47. I’ve been a Raiders fan since the 1970’s and he has turned this team into the Bay Area Browns in less than a year. I’ve never seen that happen before. And, given the league wide statistically low percentage of hitting homeruns with first round draft picks (47%), I don’t see a winning season coming anytime in the next 5-7 years…at best. I hope he proves me wrong but I felt like wearing a bag over my head as I watched that game last night here at MY HOUSE. Can’t imagine how season ticket holders are feeling.

  48. I think everyone is over thinking it. The model is proven in every major sport. From The Process, to the Astros, to the Rams and Goff. It is extremely difficult to win consistently paying one dude 30+ million per year. Tua comes out next year. The Raiders hired Gruden knowing they were going to blow it up to build it back up through cheap rookie deals.

  49. Gruden is like the trump of the NFL. Say asinine things, the double down on those asinine things. Make it seem like you’re accomplishing things when really you’re burning everything to the ground.

  50. at this point all you can do is hope. No doubt they need help on the d-line. Jellybean and Vanderdoes will help in long term plans….Fact is when you trade away Mack and Cooper for picks, and will have about 100 million in cap space. With 4 picks in the top 33 picks, and a little free agent shopping, things can turn around pretty quickly -just not this year.

  51. As Howard Cosell once stated, “THIS TEAM IS IN TOTAL D-I-S-A-R-R-A-Y!” The franchise is in disarray as well. The betrayal of their fan base and bailing out of Oakland is a mistake. Proof: The “LA” Chargers franchise is a mess despite being a good team.They deserted their fan base. It takes decades to build one. Las Vegas Raiders success remains to be seen. Goodell and the NFL owners have a problem with their so-called ‘re-location’ policy. This obsession with playing in a bright shiny new stadium only feeds an owners ego. The NFL must refurbish older venues and maintain their fan bases. Not count on tax payer money to do so. The NFL owners have the means, but are greedy for the $650,000,000 ‘re-location fees. This NFL business model could do them in. Buffalo Bills to Texas? Could be next as the ownership don’t like the Buffalo cold. They also like the ‘0’ state taxes in Texas versus the high taxes in NY state. Regardless of what owners do, they still get rich on their Socialistic brand of TV equal sharing of revenues. This ‘marginalizes’ incentive to win. Pathetic.

  52. What a complete load of crap… maybe for a party in Vegas when they get there… didn’t think this organization could get any worse… new low, beneath the sewer line…

  53. “Gruden already has mentioned it twice this week. He’d be wise to quit talking about it now. And the league would be wise to start asking pointed questions about the basis for the claims he’s making, because such communications necessarily undermine the current contractual relationship between those players and the teams that employ them.”
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    Permit me to opine it’s likley even the NFL tampering police know Gruden is just popping off, this is nothing but empty bravado. If they do anything more than privately admonish him to knock it off, they will only elevate his street cred.

  54. If thus was No limit poker, Gruden just got caught bluffing and lost all his chips. And walking out the door mumbling to himself

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