Sunday Night wrap-up: Tom Brady makes plays at the right time

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Regardless your feelings about livestock rankings, Tom Brady was certainly the best quarterback on the field Sunday.

The Patriots quarterback was able to out-duel Aaron Rodgers and the Packers for a 31-17 win, their sixth straight.

Brady finished 22-of-35 for 294 yards and a touchdown, and a win that was greater than the sum of its fantasy stats.

And he did it without a perfect situation or supporting cast. Brady was playing without tight end Rob Gronkowski and running back Sony Michel, but was able to improvise as he has so often.

He also did it against a game Packers defense, which seemed to confuse him for long stretches (including a streak of six straight incomplete passes in the second half).

But when it mattered most, they did not. Brady was able to look off the Packers secondary, getting a pair of corners to bite on a quick pass, as he went over the top to Josh Gordon for a 55-yard touchdown.

It was a long con of a play, as Brady was working short and intermediate passes leading up to that point. And Gordon is beginning to look assimilated into their offense, which is good since they were so short on other playmakers.

None of this will end the barroom debates, as some will always prefer Rodgers’ superior mobility and arm strength. But Brady has the trophies, and most recently, the head-to-head bragging rights.

Here are five more things we learned during Sunday Night Football:

1.  It’s not that Rodgers didn’t play well.

But for years, we’ve been conditioned to believe he’s enough to make the Packers one of the most competitive teams in the league. That’s not really the case, especially in a loaded NFC field.

The overall base of talent in Green Bay isn’t what it once was, as their depth on the offensive line and secondary was tested. Even when well, they’re lacking the same degree of talent (on offense or defense), which makes it harder for Rodgers to drag the roster along.

They’re promising to be more aggressive in free agency in the future, which is the way you ought to behave when you have a player of Rodgers’ quality. That just doesn’t help them now, as they fell to 3-4-1.

2. Patriots wide receiver Cordarrelle Patterson is clearly very fast and can clearly make things happen with the ball in his hands. He has had his struggles over the years with his route-running and his hands.

So rather than beat a square peg into a round hole, the Patriots found a unique way to make him useful.

Lining up as a running back the last two weeks, Patterson has found something resembling a niche, with 10 carries for 38 yards last week and 11 carries for 61 yards Sunday.

He has long shown his ability to make big plays as a kick returner, with six career return touchdowns and 30 returns of 40 yards or longer. While me may not be a good goal-line option (he was stopped short in the third quarter when he tried to back in), but the Patriots have a tendency of finding what guys are good at and doing that. Other teams may have tried, but he won’t be the first guy whose talents were maximized in New England.

3.Marquez Valdes-Scantling has the longest name of any of the Packers’ rookie receivers.

He might also have the brightest future.

The guy who should perhaps be known as MVS finished with three catches for 101 yards.

The fifth-rounder from South Florida has good size, and is showing the ability to make plays in the open field.

Considering the way the Packers churn wide receivers, and with Randall Cobb nearing the end of his run there, he could be the next great unknown player to become a household name.

Even if it would have to be a big household.

4. The Packers were already scrambling a bit at safety, after trading starter Ha Ha Clinton-Dix to Washington last week.

It got worse when Jermaine Whitehead was ejected in the second quarter for his swat at Patriots center David Andrews.

The Packers slid veteran cornerback Tramon Williams inside to start the game, along with 2017 second-rounder Josh Jones. But they were rotating players through the secondary throughout the night. Kentrell Brice suffered a knee injury in the third quarter, adding to the issue, and cornerback Kevin King left with a hamstring injury.

As much as they knew Clinton-Dix was a short-timer, and as much as they like getting something for him now as opposed to nothing later, it left a problem to solve, and they’re still working on the answer.

5. That being said, if Bashaud Breeland‘s helmet keeps coming up big, it might not matter.

The recent acquisition at corner truly made a heads-up play in the third quarter, breaking up a fourth-and-goal pass without seeing it at all. That’s because the pass from Brady clunked off the back of his head.

It was Breeland’s first game active since joining the Packers, and he could be a good piece of business for them. He was set to sign a three-year, $24 million deal with the Panthers early in free agency, before a lower leg injury caused him to fail his physical. He was a solid cover player for Washington previously, so it’s not a surprise that he made a play. It’s just a surprise the way he did it.

164 responses to “Sunday Night wrap-up: Tom Brady makes plays at the right time

  1. The Commissioner, and the NFL, are so Blatantly in Robert Krafts back pocket, it is sickening, just as much as listening to Michaels, and Collinsworth fawn all over the Patriots. Forget the obvious bad calls in their favor, how about the Patriots O-Line never getting called for holding on passing downs?

  2. Today we witnessed two legendary GOATs play a game of chess to outwit their counterparts.

    Tom Brady and Bill Belichick are legends.

    Oh yea, some guy in the shadows named Rodgers was in the game too but he was busy trying to get flags and not the W. Who had the bright idea of getting rid of HaHa?

  3. I hope this game put to rest the GOAT talk between Brady and Rodgers.

    It’s clearly Brady.

    Rodgers is only as good as the refs who favor him.

  4. “Regardless your feelings about livestock rankings, Tom Brady was certainly the best quarterback on the field Sunday.”

    Ha ha ha poor CRYBABIES….

  5. One of the big issues GB has is the defense getting warn down in the second half, some of it is silly penalties, but I believe a lot of it comes from them being on the field too much, the offense gets in 3rd and long spots, and can’t convert. Sending the Defense back out before having adequate time to recover.

    I love Rodgers putting pressure on defenses putting the ball downfield, but sometimes you need to take what they give you. Especially after they make an amazing goal line stand.

  6. jjfootball says:
    November 4, 2018 at 11:33 pm
    The Commissioner, and the NFL, are so Blatantly in Robert Krafts back pocket, it is sickening, just as much as listening to Michaels, and Collinsworth fawn all over the Patriots. Forget the obvious bad calls in their favor, how about the Patriots O-Line never getting called for holding on passing downs?
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    Yes that much is obvious especially over the last 4 years. 🤔

  7. Don’t forget Pats were also without their great starting right guard Shaq Mason, with who Brady would prob not have been sacked and with whom they would have easily got that goal line play.

  8. The offense could have scored more points but Brady was sharp and the run game did well. The defense shut Rodgers down especially throws to Adams. Oh and for those who want to complain about the ejection or the roughing call I didn’t see you clowns complaining when the Packers were spotted a first down and were given a first down with a ridiculous offsetting call even though the Packers were the only ones holding on the play. Packers were doomed after the fumble that simple.

  9. terripet says:
    November 4, 2018 at 11:36 pm
    Two yard Tom did nothing Green Bay to many injuries

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    Luck and the Colts are complete frauds since the league started checking PSI in footballs and the Dolts can’t cheat anymore.

    Colts might as well fold to be perfectly honest. Cheaters and weaklings like that have no business being in the NFL.

  10. 1. It’s not that Rodgers didn’t play well.
    ####

    Since when is a 55% completion percentage considered playing “well”?

  11. “I still love how Cleveland just gave them Josh Gordon ”

    The Pats are one of the few environments and lockers rooms in the league Gordon could have straightened himself out in.

    He’s worked very hard to learn the playbook apparently and its starting to show. Brady is trusting hime more. With every game they are more on the same page. By the end of the regular season if Gordon keeps working as hard he will be a terrific player.

    Every team that passed on him has to be pissed at themselves though, and you can be sure there are people around the league that don’t like this at all.

  12. terripet says:
    November 4, 2018 at 11:36 pm
    Two yard Tom did nothing Green Bay to many injuries


    Brady
    22/34 294 yards 8.4 yards per yards 1 TD rating 99.0

    Rogers
    24/43 259 6.0 yards per. yards 2 TD rating 89

    Go to bed now knowing your Colts suck.

  13. Despite the predictable inane skoltrolls – The Packers are right on track with their rebuild. Years of success and poor Thompson drafts depleted the talent. Gutekunst added young corners and receivers this year – next year its about O-line and pass rushers while moving on from overpaid legacy players. As expected, Belicheck outcoached McCarthy. The league will clarify the ejection mistake on Wednesday as they usually do.

  14. Erin chokes yet again. No surprise there tho.

    Mr Rawwwwgers is vadtly over rated and waaaay over hyped.

    3 1/2 hours of Erin ballwashing by the announcers only to see him come up short, again.

    GOAT? Hardly, 4th best qb in the nfc north? yup.

  15. Awesome game for the Patriots, offense taken care of business making the big plays when we needed the most. Patriots played the tempo very well on a few drives sending Patterson out of a cannon.Patriots as always know when the perfect time to dial up the trick play but cant get into the endzone from 1 yard line? i expect it to be cleaned up….by the way …..a 5th round pick…. 5TH ROUND PICK.

    As for Aaron Rodgers, he did have a decent game, the pass rush got to him a few times but when he had time I swear he hit them in the chest even if they were jumping 90% of his throws tonight and thats why I regard him as one of the most talented ever. Jones fumble getting slumped by Lawrence guy absolutely killed them for getting back into it.

    Great game tonight, the Packers play another victim to the Foxborough mystique

  16. The Packers were playing pretty well until #33 fumbled the ball when it looked as though Green Bay was about to take the lead in a 17-17 game. But then the Patriots scored 2 quick touchdowns right after that and the game was over. You just can’t make (m)any mistakes if you expect to beat New England at Gillette Stadium. There were also a few questionable calls on the Packers as if the Patriots really need any help from the referees.

  17. Patriot Hater without a doubt is some of the biggest Wussies I have ever encountered anywhere either on the internet or in person. It really is quite hilarious how bitter they are when the Patriots win. It’s like they take it personally. Tee hee 🙂

  18. jjfootball says:
    November 4, 2018 at 11:33 pm
    The Commissioner, and the NFL, are so Blatantly in Robert Krafts back pocket, it is sickening, just as much as listening to Michaels, and Collinsworth fawn all over the Patriots. Forget the obvious bad calls in their favor, how about the Patriots O-Line never getting called for holding on passing downs?
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    There’s a solution, turn off your TV.

  19. Rodgers is overrated. He only puts up stats against teams under .500. But struggles bigtime and constantly chokes against teams over. 500. The debate about Rodgers being better than brady is ridiculous. It’s a joke. There’s many qbs playing today that are better than Rodgers. I’ll take Brees, mahomes, brady over Rodgers any day.

  20. Neither of these guy’s will ever be the GOAT, because it’s to easy for QB’s in this modern day football, they can get rid of the ball faster because no db is holding their receivers like they did in the past, and let’s not forget all these lame rules protecting offensive players, etc…….

  21. jjfootball says:
    November 4, 2018 at 11:33 pm
    The Commissioner, and the NFL…

    terripet says:
    November 4, 2018 at 11:36 pm
    Two yard Tom…
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    Honestly, if all you are going to do is mail it in why bother? The beatings will continue until morale improves.

    We are on to Tennessee

  22. The Patriots’ defense made plays when they needed to, the Packers’ defense didn’t and that was the difference in the game.

  23. Two glaring differences between a McCarthy coached team and a Belicheck coached team.

    1. Discipline. Yes the Patriots were involved in the on field skirmishes after the whistle. The main point is they knew when to quit. The part of discipline is knowing your defensive assignment and staying with it. Too many times two Packers played defense in the same zone, thus allowing Brady to pick them apart.

    2. Aggressiveness. Good teams take what the defense gives you. Too many times the Packers on 2nd and short would go for the long ball instead of playing for the first down. Also the Patriots never took their foot off the gas offensively, even when up by 14 with less then 5 minutes to play they played aggressive offense. McCarthy gets a lead and plays passively allowing teams to get back into the game.

    Yes, there are other differences. But these two stood out the most, Discipline during the entire game, Aggressiveness near the end.

  24. The Commissioner, and the NFL, are so Blatantly in Robert Krafts back pocket, it is sickening, just as much as listening to Michaels, and Collinsworth fawn all over the Patriots. Forget the obvious bad calls in their favor, how about the Patriots O-Line never getting called for holding on passing downs?
    ____________________________________________________________________
    Another hater of the GOAT making up more conspiracy theories I bet you also claim that Colonel Mustard committed all the murders in Clue !

  25. We are on to Tennessee
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    Hopefully a win against the Titans and 8-2 is a very nice place to be going into the bye and getting important players back. 🙂

  26. .
    The Patriots and Packers played fairly evenly. However, New England made less mistakes than Green Bay. That’s it in a nutshell.
    .

  27. Aaron Jones runs you down to the goal line. I don’t know if it is McCarthy or Rodgers just wanting to pad his stats, but they pass the ball 3 straight times. The 3rd down, they fake it to Jones and throw the TD pass, but Jones would have waltzed in. Reward the man for running hard and give him at least one chance. Nothing is settled in the division except the Lions won’t be winning it.

  28. Good game Pats, it was fun to watch 2 of the greatest ever to play the game duel head to head. What a frustrating season of what-ifs for the Packers. If only the refs hadn’t called the horrendous roughing the passer penalty on Clay Matthews in the Vikings game. If only Crosby hadn’t played such a putrid game against the Lions. If only Montgomery hadn’t fumbled on the kickoff return against LAR, never even giving Rodgers a chance. If only Jones hadn’t made a fumble to turn the game around tonight.

  29. jjfootball says:
    November 4, 2018 at 11:33 pm

    The Commissioner, and the NFL, are so Blatantly in Robert Krafts back pocket, it is sickening, just as much as listening to Michaels, and Collinsworth fawn all over the Patriots. Forget the obvious bad calls in their favor, how about the Patriots O-Line never getting called for holding on passing downs?
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    Sure buddy. Did you catch that BS spot for a 1st down on GB’s last drive? What about the unflagged false start by the GB o-line on that 4th down play after that? I’m guessing you missed those as you were still crying over a Cleveland cast-off scoring on a 50 yard TD pass.

  30. 1. It’s not that Rodgers didn’t play well.

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    55% completion, 6.0 yards per attempt and an 89 passer rating is a lot closer to “meh” than “playing well”…

  31. Patriots had a TD overturned without any camera angle indicating Patterson was short, and Packers got a gift 1st down on a generous spot when it should have been 4th down in their own territory. Sure, keep crying that the refs are somehow bought by the Patriots. Can’t be helped if Packers don’t capitalize when they get their own breaks.

  32. Good game Packers. Goo Pats. the defense played best than it has for awhile. The offense has been hit or miss so far. The bye cannot get here soon enough. A banged up crew with no excuses.

  33. jjfootball says:
    November 4, 2018 at 11:46 pm
    Neither of these guy’s will ever be the GOAT, because it’s to easy for QB’s in this modern day football, they can get rid of the ball faster because no db is holding their receivers like they did in the past, and let’s not forget all these lame rules protecting offensive players, etc…….

    —-

    Can we please STOP with the revisionists history

    You could NEVER hold a WR down the field
    I watched a highlight reel of Jerry Rice he WASNT being held all the way down the field
    That’s a myth
    Hell most of the time he was wide open

    So can we please STOP pass interferences has always been a rule.

    And I’ll let you in on a little secret, Most QB now would pick apart Defenses from the 70 80 and 90s.

    They all played basic D mostly 4-3. And the players were smaller and not as fast as they are now.

  34. Great win , despite no Gronk or Sony. Nice contribution from Josh Gordon, 55 yard touchdown!! Thanks, Cleveland!!
    Nice to see the World Champion Red Sox in house! 11 Championships in 17 years!!! We are blessed in New England!!

  35. Holy crap Josh Gordon is doing his post game presser and just said he had a finger dislocated, had it popped back into place and kept playing. Ouch!

  36. First time I have ever seen an OL and DL get offsetting holding penalties on a running play. GB OL clearly held Pats DL but both players were flagged for holding. There was no reason for the DL to hold on that play which is why he wasn’t. Usually don’t complain about the Refs but that was a definite WTF moment.

  37. If only fuller wouldn’t have dropped a sure fire interception, if only the refs would call a hold on the Packers OL( not that I thought they would with Rodgers coming playing with an injury and the whole Barr thing last year). The Packers could just s easily have 1 win as 5 victories so 3 seems about right.

  38. The Packers lost because Daniels and Brady have trip plays, they arent afraid to change the O mid stream going to screens, slants, etc. It was that inventiveness and change of play that won the game.
    Greg Jennings blasted MM and I agree, his play calling and the plays he calls are so basic they are easy to defend over the long run. Rogers will get his passes, and the runners will get some yards, but when the chips are down, its pass downfield or hand off the ball. No screens, no quick slants, no crossing patterns. Just blah football.

  39. Anyone who watched this game and still thinks the Pats get all the calls needs to check themselves. The Pats were in on Rodgers all night and if not for some massive holding (uncalled), they might have sacked him 4-5 times. The Packers had a TD drive practically gifted to them from a free first down spot to some downright questionable penalties on DB’s.

    That’s not to say the Pats didn’t have a couple go their way, too. I saw a couple holds and one illegal use of hands that got missed. It is a part of the game, sadly, and the NFL officiating has been on the decline for YEARS.

    All that being said, I am happy the Pats got out of there with a win.

  40. Anyone who watched this game and still thinks the Pats get all the calls needs to check themselves. The Pats were in on Rodgers all night and if not for some massive holding (uncalled), they might have sacked him 4-5 times. The Packers had a TD drive practically gifted to them from a free first down spot to some downright questionable penalties on DB’s.

    That’s not to say the Pats didn’t have a couple go their way, too. I saw a couple holds and one illegal use of hands that got missed. It is a part of the game, sadly, and the NFL officiating has been on the decline for YEARS.

    All that being said, I am happy the Pats got out of there with a win.

  41. These are the exact comments I expected from the Viking trolls. The Packers offense was getting hot when Jones comitted a back breaking fumble deep in Pats territory, but hey, they dont let that stop them from blaming Rodgers for the L.

  42. What will the excuse be, I wonder, if the packer fail to make the playoffs with a healthy rodgers? Not like that division is great or anything… Well, I guess I’ll find out soon. Buckle up packers, the schedule isn’t getting any easier.

  43. Oh give me a break. Let’s be scientific about this. The 72 Fins played only a 14 game regular season. When the 2007 Patriots got to 18-0, they went where the 72 Fins never went before.

    2. The Fins beat only two teams all season with greater than .500 records and both were 8-6. The Patriots beat 6 playoff boubd teams. They beat the 8-0 Manning-led Colts in Indy, 24-20 after staging a comeback from a 10 point deficit with 4 minutes left. They beat a 5-0 Cowboys team in Dallas 48-27. They beat the Steelers by 21 points after a Steeler safety guaranteed victory. They beat the Redskins 45-7. They beat the Chargers twice, 38-14 in Week 2 after Ladainliam Tomlinson swore revenge for last year’s 27-24 home playoff loss as the #1 seed; and then they beat the Chargers in the AFCCG 21-12 to break the Chargers 11-game winning streak. Three Ravens dedicated their prime time nationally televised game against the Pats to recently felled former U of Miami alumn Sean Taylor, but Rex Ryan’s fierce defenss still came up empty in the 27-24 loss. In the aftermath of the videotape revelation, the Eagles swore revenge for their SB loss to the Patriots (choosimg to believe they lost as the result of cheating), but came up short 31-28. And finally the eventual SB champion Giants fell at home 38-35 to the Patriots after blowing a 28-16 halftime lead.

    No team faced as much pressure and vitriol as the 2007 Patriots. The player that coat them the SB was Asante Samuel, who had the worst 4th quarter of any player, including that drop of an easy INT that would have sealed the victory for the Patriots. Interestingly, Samuel played disgruntled all season. He wantee to be traded and he and Belichick struck an unusual deal before the season: if he plays in 12 games, the Patriots will trade him.

    Most storybook season of any team in NFL history, even more storybook than the team that beat them in the SB.

    3. There were also fewer teams in the league back in 72 when the Fins won it all.

    The Pats loss in the SB may have sealed the Dolphins NOMINAL record. But the 2007 Patriots exposed the 1972 Fins by promptimg journalists and fans to take a closer look at the details. And this is why the Fins are so angry at the Patriots.

  44. Listening to Packer fans complain about holding not called by the Patriots is about as delicious a thing I could ever imagine. Welcome to the other side.

  45. packers are a .500 team playing on the road. Why would the result of this single unbalanced matchup have anything to do with deciding who is the better QB?

    Besides, Rodgers or Brady are not even top 5 QBs all time. They are both guys who are thriving in an era where Ryan Fitzpatrick can put up huge stats and a first year starter (Mahomes) can look like a hall of famer.

  46. walllamp947460497 says:
    November 4, 2018 at 11:59 pm
    Who is Erin going to be mean to, tomorrow at lunch in the cafeteria and blame for the loss?

    ————————
    Actually I just watched Rodgers speaking to the New England press. I’m sure he didn’t feel much like doing that. But he did, and graciously too.

  47. I am a born Steeler fan, however, just like we fans in Pittsburgh
    recognized Chuck Noll as a fine coach, I must admit that
    Bill Belichick is perhaps the best of all time. The Patriots
    may not win it all but they are always in position at the end
    of the year to win it all.
    Why Belichick over Noll and others? In Nolls era, a teams budget
    for coaching and scouting may not have exceeded 1 million dollars.
    Imagine the whole of football operations on less than a million.
    Now with all,the TV and cable revenue the scouting department
    alone has so many scouts that the budget is well north of
    1 million. Despite the revenue Belichick keeps the football
    costs low and doesn’t employ nearly as much as other coaches.
    Then the real reason for Belichicks success …unlike Parcells e
    and Cowher ..he still can work the 15 hour days…..Parcells and ‘:#
    Cowher hated the long hours …Belichick stills loves it ..it’s not
    not work ..it is what he is…it’s what he does ..it comes before
    all.

  48. I’m a big Brady fan, but even I can see that there’s something off this year. It’s not as bad as 2013, but he doesn’t seem as crisp with this reads or throws. I know there’s new players/injured players, etc.. but he’s always had that. This year, he just looks slightly off. Too many miss throws/under throws or overthrows, which is very odd for him. Hope it gets corrected during the home stretch.

  49. What this game proves is that the Packers defense is crumbling. Yes, it’s against Brady but you’d think they do a better job containing that Patterson guy or something. cough cough.

  50. Up until the fumble, it looked like Pettine’s version of the Rex Ryan Defense might hold the Patriots down just enough for GB to squeek out a win. There was plenty of time after the fumble to right the ship, but Tom Brady in that situation, in the 4th quarter, makes plays.

  51. I am surprised people are overlooking the big news of the day. Tom Brady, the Greatest NFL Player of All-Time, is still short of 1000 career rushing yards.

  52. How about we end this era of Aaron Rodgers apologists and begin to explore the idea that he is not as God-like as the media makes him out to be? While the media fawns over him guys like Drew Brees and Tom Brady quietly rack up stronger stats and more wins with big plays week after week…

  53. “Robert Kraft has the commissioner in his back pocket?” How many first round picks has Goodell taken away?!

    “Rodgers has done more with less”

    Brady won Super Bowls with how many hall of fame players on offense? 2001 – starting wide receivers David Patten and Troy Brown – 2003 – starting wide receivers – Deon Branch and David Givens – we can keep going on and on. Those were good players with heart but let’s not pretend he was throwing to Jerry Rice or Julio Jones. Other than Randy Moss in 2007 or a always injured Gronk you could say Brady has had pretty average talent at receiver. Some good but not great players. Give the man his due…

  54. Brady has been well coached and always brings his “A” game. Football is a coach v. coach league, these guys are all professional athletes. Wake up if your hate is going bongo.

  55. I love how Aaron Rodgers gets blamed for everything from the haters — including this loss to the Patriots.
    That loss proved one thing — that Mike McCarthy couldn’t shine Bill Belichick’s shoes. McCarthy is the most over-rated head coach in the NFL. The only coach I’ve seen who kept his job year after year in spite of being a terrible coach was Jeff Fisher. But McCarthy is just like Fisher. How McCarthy keeps his job is beyond me. Does anyone think if he hadn’t had Favre and Rodgers that he’d still be in the NFL? The guy gets out-coached all the time. Worse, his players prove all the time that they do not respect him. Last week it was Montgomery who defied him and last night it was Whitehead who did another selfish act by getting ejected for slapping a Patriot lineman. Good coaches don’t tolerate that stuff, but McCarthy is not a good coach.
    The Patriots are a better team than the Packers led by the best head coach since Vince Lombardi and one of the greatest QB’s to have played in the NFL. Unlike the Patriots haters, I have admired what they have done and respect them for doing it.

  56. When will everybody just admit it. There are organizations that just lose, those that know how to win, and then there are the Patriots. Greatest Dynasty in football. At least in my lifetime. And worse yet, it seems like they will never go away. Depressing.

  57. usdcoyotesfan says:

    These are the exact comments I expected from the Viking trolls. The Packers offense was getting hot when Jones comitted a back breaking fumble deep in Pats territory, but hey, they dont let that stop them from blaming Rodgers for the L.
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    The Packers were getting “hot”?

    Yes, they drove for a TD in the 1st drive of the second half.

    But that was the end of the “heat”.

    The Packers next possession was a three and ou.

    After that, there was the 5 play drive that ended in the Jones fumble. They had just one first down in that drive.

    Next was another three and out.

    I’m sorry, but you can’t claim the offense is hot with just one first down in 3 drives.

    And to complete the Packers 2nd half possessions, the final drive netted a whopping total of 27 yards against a prevent defense.

    So explain to me how the Packers offense was getting “hot” before or after the Jones fumble.

    Maybe if Rodgers could have completed even 60% of his passes, the game might have been closer.

    Rodgers inability to sustain drives was a big part of the loss.

  58. terripet says:
    November 4, 2018 at 11:36 pm
    Two yard Tom did nothing Green Bay to many injuries
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    Too bad the W last night counts for Brady.

    294 yards and a 55 yard TD … nope nothing at all LOL

  59. tedunderhill says:
    November 4, 2018 at 11:39 pm
    Cheating issues…
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    Sounds about right. Can’t explain why the Pats keep winning? Blame it on cheating. LOL

  60. jjfootball says:
    November 4, 2018 at 11:39 pm
    Don’t like either of these QB’s, but Rogers does more with a lot less!
    =============================
    Even JGordon would have a hard time matching any of those Packers WRs. Give me a break already with a lot less. And I like Rodgers! The excuse making is a bit ridiculous though. Pats fans are immune to it. We’ve been conditioned of decades of the same with PManning.

  61. 49erfan44 says:
    November 4, 2018 at 11:41 pm
    It took a phantom illegal contact call to beat the Niners, what would it take to beat the patriots?
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    Not fumbling?

  62. calivike says:
    November 4, 2018 at 11:55 pm
    Aaron Jones runs you down to the goal line. I don’t know if it is McCarthy or Rodgers just wanting to pad his stats, but they pass the ball 3 straight times. The 3rd down, they fake it to Jones and throw the TD pass, but Jones would have waltzed in. Reward the man for running hard and give him at least one chance. Nothing is settled in the division except the Lions won’t be winning it.
    ====================
    This! The Pats were clearly intent to stop the pass at all cost and the G B running showed that early and often. Instead of staying with ground and pound GB took to the air. It cost them the game.

  63. whywerule says:
    November 5, 2018 at 1:30 am
    I am surprised people are overlooking the big news of the day. Tom Brady, the Greatest NFL Player of All-Time, is still short of 1000 career rushing yards.
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    I suppose one must get their joy wherever they can.

  64. A good game. Brady still looks uncomfortable at times, probably because of all of the player turnover during the off season and not enough continuity yet with the offense due to injuries etc…If they stay healthy who knows.

    The most impressive part of that was Patterson, to use him as an HB…just shows how they look at the skill set of an individual and try to use it to their best advantage. Going forward if Michel gets healthy using CP in the backfield will open up the play action game even more because defenses will not know what to expect, pass, or run.

  65. Belichick should have challenged the spot when the refs gave GB a first down when the camera showed they were clearly one full yard short. I was yelling at the TV, “Challenge it Bill”. It would have been an easy win and reversal of the spot. Green Bay got a gift on that one.

  66. tokyosandblaster says:
    November 4, 2018 at 11:39 pm
    I thought Vikings fans were supposed to be jolly.
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    We are jolly. The Vikings have won 4 of 5 and their defense is now starting to gel, while the Packers are below .500, winless on the road and will miss the playoffs for a second straight season. There’s plenty to be jolly about.

  67. dsigrey says:
    November 5, 2018 at 8:50 am
    Roger’s should not keep getting compared to Brady, Brady is a level above him. A more accurate comparison is Rogers / Roethlisberger.
    *****
    Nope, Roethlisberger has been in and won multiple Super Bowls. Rodgers has been in and won one. Better comparison is Rodgers/Dilfer or Rodgers/Rypien or Rodgers/Hostetler or Rodgers/Brad Johnson.

  68. Rodgers likes his footballs over the legal limit
    Brady likes his footballs under the legal limit

    Difference is Rodgers was honest about it and puts a little extra air in before the refs inspects the footballs.

    Brady lies about it and has the deflator take a little error out after the refs inspection.

    Brady will always be a liar and cheater like Barry and Lance.

  69. Brady has played in 8 Superbowls in 16 years. This year doesn’t count because it’s not over yet and Brady missed an entire season when his knee got torn up in the first game of the 2008 season. He won 5 of those games and lost the other three on what could be termed “freak” plays. That’s pretty impressive.

    Everybody has an opinion on Aaron Rodgers. So do I. I think he’s a great QB who has, on many occasions, pulled victories out of some really dire situations. It’s true, Rodgers is playing with a lesser cast of players but so does Brady most years. The argument about who is the “GOAT” will never cease but both these guys will be first-ballot HOFers.

  70. five takeaways for last night game:
    1) the Patriots defense held Aaron Rodgers to 17 points

    2) Next man up works in New England. Gronk and Sony Michel are out, James white starts gets nicked up 2nd quarter and Cordele Patterson comes in and scores a TD, while quietly Dwayne Allen blocks like a lineman most of the night and picks up a perfect 21 yard first down to keep a drive going.

    3) Julian Edelman is Mr. all around gadget good goy player. He blocks like he weighs 218, He can toss the ball when needs to 1 for 1 for 37 yards, he runs sweeps 2 for 28 yards, He returns punts, He is a super slot/first down player, 6 receptions for 71 yards….total of 136 all purpose yards from scrimmage.

    4) Josh Gordon. 5 receptions for 130 yards and TD. he is becoming a Patriots Buying into the Patriot way. He will succeed here in New England. Getting better each week.

    5) Tom Brady is the real GOAT….. When he looked off those safeties and got them to bite on the Gordon TD… well lets just say no one else does it better.. and oh yeah.. he got another 1st down with his legs again.

    Those are the real 5 takeaways from last night game… notice nothing about the packers here….7 & 2……3-4-1…..end of this story.

  71. “None of this will end the barroom debates”…. there really isn’t much of debate. Rodgers isn’t even in the top three of his contemporaries. I would take Brady, Brees and Manning before Rodgers every day of the week and twice on Sunday!!

  72. stellarperformance says:
    May 15, 2018 at 6:32 pm

    I’m not surprised Viking trolls feel threatened by the Packers’ probable return to the top of the division.

    ____________________________

    Now, aren’t you glad the Vikings beat the Lions yesterday to keep you out of the BOTTOM of the division?

  73. jason9696 says:
    November 4, 2018 at 11:44 pm
    The Packers were playing pretty well until #33 fumbled the ball when it looked as though Green Bay was about to take the lead in a 17-17 game. But then the Patriots scored 2 quick touchdowns right after that and the game was over. You just can’t make (m)any mistakes if you expect to beat New England at Gillette Stadium. There were also a few questionable calls on the Packers as if the Patriots really need any help from the referees.

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    give me a break

    nice extra yard on that spot call
    and constant holding by the packers o line all night

  74. Pats didn’t play well at all in the 3rd quarter and Green Bay couldn’t capitalize. Once McDaniels and Brady figured out the right play calls they locked in and took over.
    Not a great game for the referees on both sides with the soft ejection call on Whitehead but the non ejection call on D.Adams who threw a closed hand punch at Gilmore and then got a very generous 1st down spot he got a couple plays later. Packers could have used Clinton-Dix, still trying to figure out that trade. Seems like this is starting to point toward another wasted year of Rodgers prime for Green Bay.
    And it may have helped the Pats in a weird way to not have Gronk as that game further developed the Brady-Gordon rapport. Can’t wait till the entire offense is healthy and going on all cylinders.

  75. Congrats, Pats fans. That game was classic Brady/Belichick. Creative and well executed. That first drive was utterly masterful.

    I’d love to talk about this game a little more in-depth with you guys but it’s difficult with all the noise from the purples constant yammering “Brady? Rodgers? What about us? What about Cousins? Why doesn’t anyone outside of Minnesota care about our Vikings?” They just won’t learn. They can’t make us love them.

  76. The Pats were clearly intent to stop the pass at all cost and the G B running showed that early and often. Instead of staying with ground and pound GB took to the air. It cost them the game.

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    The master.

    BB

  77. jvotoronto says:
    November 5, 2018 at 1:05 am
    I’m a big Brady fan, but even I can see that there’s something off this year. It’s not as bad as 2013, but he doesn’t seem as crisp with this reads or throws. I know there’s new players/injured players, etc.. but he’s always had that. This year, he just looks slightly off. Too many miss throws/under throws or overthrows, which is very odd for him. Hope it gets corrected during the home stretch.

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    appreciate the honesty

    some pats fans can’t admit those things

  78. “Rodgers has done more with less”

    Brady won Super Bowls with how many hall of fame players on offense?
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    How many for Rodgers?

    Its a wash.

    Brady has the advantage there. Moss, Gronk.. best slot receiver all-time.

    Rodgers had a great core in 2008-2011.. but no all-time greats.

    Now lets do defense;

    Milloy, Law, McGinest, Bruschi.. Seymore, Wilfork, Harrison, Samuel… Mevis, Hightower..

    Rodgers 3.. Woodson, Matthews, Collins… All LONG gone.. average or WELL below average units since 2010.

    .. and there is no comparison between Belichick and McCarthy. I’m not sure if McCarthy could outcoach McDaniels.

  79. It’s amazing to see how Brady excels when he has nothing but a cast of retreads, backups and malcontents from other teams, while Rodgers continues and repeatedly amounts to nothing; year in and year out. And yet, every year as the season roles around all we hear about is how Green Bay is a Super Bowl favorite, solely because of Rodgers and his track record of doing nothing. Well, he does have to throw several Hail Mary’s every season to bail himself out of a hole.

  80. aarons444 says:
    November 5, 2018 at 9:42 am
    QBs trade teams; scripts is the same.

    Belichick would be unbeatable with Rodgers.

    Brady can’t overcome McCarthy.

    More excuses

    BB has NOTHING to do with the Patriots offense.
    Never has.
    If Brady had a different coach he wouldn’t suddenly not know how to read a D. Or move in the pocket or make his pre snap reads and adjustments

    4th Q

    Brady 6-6 104 yards 1 TD 0 int. 158.3 rating

    Rogers 2-7 15 yards 0 tds 0 int. 39.6 rating

    Those #’s have nothing to do with McCarthy
    It’s not the coaches fault when Rogers fumbles that’s on the QB
    It’s not the coaches fault when Rogers over throws or under throws a WR

  81. aarons444 says:

    November 5, 2018 at 9:42 am

    QBs trade teams; scripts is the same.

    Belichick would be unbeatable with Rodgers.

    Brady can’t overcome McCarthy.

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    Any reason why the Packers traded Clinton-Dix? He’s been pretty good this year and they likely would have got a compensatory pick if he signed somewhere else next year.

  82. Rodgers is a good offensive player, and arguably more physically gifted (at least for mobility).

    Brady is a better overall QB. He understands the game better, and will find ways to win games, even if that way is to check to runs or short passes. He is very good at taking what the defense will give him, while Rodgers has a little Favre in him, where he thinks he needs to be the hero and make the impossible play.

  83. Fred Garvin says:
    November 5, 2018 at 9:56 am
    It’s amazing to see how Brady excels when he has nothing but a cast of retreads, backups and malcontents from other teams, while Rodgers continues and repeatedly amounts to nothing; year in and year out. And yet, every year as the season roles around all we hear about is how Green Bay is a Super Bowl favorite, solely because of Rodgers and his track record of doing nothing. Well, he does have to throw several Hail Mary’s every season to bail himself out of a hole.

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    yeah, some cast offs: james white, edelman, gordon, gronk, hogan, allen, patterson and dorsett

    just horrible, low end talent

    lmao

    Oh, the best o line in the conference and ol coach in nf history…just awful support the greatest gm in sports history has surrounded him with

  84. 80,074 Yards passing/rushing/receiving
    601 Touchdowns passing/rushing/receiving
    Regular season and playoffs combined.
    Most all time.

  85. Can someone tell me what Brady does that makes him the GOAT? He is on a good/great team every year with the best coach in the history of the NFL in the worst division and conference in the NFL. Stats are great but they are only relative to who you are playing. I don’t see the same success if he was in the NFC.

  86. Rodgers likes his footballs over the legal limit
    Brady likes his footballs under the legal limit

    Difference is Rodgers was honest about it and puts a little extra air in before the refs inspects the footballs.

    Brady lies about it and has the deflator take a little error out after the refs inspection.

    Brady will always be a liar and cheater like Barry and Lance.
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    Imagine trying to make this comment with a straight face? So its OK for Rodgers to cheat because he admitted to doing so but Brady is an all-out scumbag even though anyone with the slightest big of objectivity knows those balls were deflated manually. If not, please explain how 75% of the Colts balls that were tested also were below regulation after starting with a higher PSI? I’ve been waiting on an answer to that for 3 years.

  87. Chill_Donahue says:
    November 5, 2018 at 10:08 am
    aarons444 says:

    November 5, 2018 at 9:42 am

    QBs trade teams; scripts is the same.

    Belichick would be unbeatable with Rodgers.

    Brady can’t overcome McCarthy.

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    Any reason why the Packers traded Clinton-Dix? He’s been pretty good this year and they likely would have got a compensatory pick if he signed somewhere else next year.

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    They had no plans to sign HHCD as he was going to be an UFA demanding big money. Compensatory picks come at END of round. They got a fourth-round pick which will come IN the fourth round. They did right thing. It’s rare, I know.

  88. Can someone tell me what Brady does that makes him the GOAT? He is on a good/great team every year with the best coach in the history of the NFL in the worst division and conference in the NFL. Stats are great but they are only relative to who you are playing. I don’t see the same success if he was in the NFC.
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    Well, first the AFC East is not the worst division in football. Try using the internet for a very quick search. While there, also look at Brady’s record against all other divisions…..the win % is the same or higher against every other division. The Pats also play a first place schedule every year so are constantly playing the other top tier teams. Not to mention the Pats usually win at least 3 of the 4 NFC games they play every year.

    So when you boil it all down, Brady and the Pats do things no other team does. Not to mention Brady is in the top 5 of almost every major QB stat there is. And on and on……

  89. openwho says:
    November 5, 2018 at 10:40 am

    Can someone tell me what Brady does that makes him the GOAT?
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    Who do you think is the GOAT?

  90. openwho says:
    November 5, 2018 at 10:40 am
    Can someone tell me what Brady does that makes him the GOAT? He is on a good/great team every year with the best coach in the history of the NFL in the worst division and conference in the NFL. Stats are great but they are only relative to who you are playing. I don’t see the same success if he was in the NFC

    Why did they call Montana the GOAT before him?
    He was surrounded by HOF players on both sides of the ball
    Had one of the Beat coaches in the NFL in his generation

    What’s the criteria do you have to have a bad coach to be called the GOAT??

    Dan Marino had Shula and his stats blew Montanas away but never won a thing.

    Look at Brady when in the biggest moments (and yes we know he’s not going to win them all)

    Again look at last night in the 4 th Q

    Brady 6-6 104 yards 1 TD 0 int. 158.3 rating

    Rogers 2-7 15 yards 0 tds 0 int. 39.6 rating

  91. aarons444 says:
    November 5, 2018 at 9:42 am
    QBs trade teams; scripts is the same.

    Belichick would be unbeatable with Rodgers.

    Brady can’t overcome McCarthy
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    Not likely. Rogers is not a good game manager and hardly ever takes what the D gives him. Always going for the home run or the flashy play. Rogers is a gun slinger, has a great arm and is great throwing on the run. But as he ages his legs are giving out where he’s hurt more often than not. Brady is a much better pocket passer, can read defenses a lot better and usually knows where he’s going with the ball before he snaps it, while Rogers uses his legs to give his WR time to get open.

  92. openwho says:
    November 5, 2018 at 10:40 am
    Can someone tell me what Brady does that makes him the GOAT? He is on a good/great team every year with the best coach in the history of the NFL in the worst division and conference in the NFL. Stats are great but they are only relative to who you are playing. I don’t see the same success if he was in the NFC.
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    The AFC East is not the worst division in the NFL. Never was to be honest despite the hype. And it’s funny how the “worst conference in the NFL” has won 4 of the last 6 Super Bowls. 🙂

    If you don’t want to talk about stats let’s talk about 5 Super Bowl rings, more than any other QB in history, 8 conference championships, more than any other QB in history, and winning more games as a starter than any QB in history. Wins and rings are fair game to evaluate QB’s against his peers in an era of offense.

    Take Brady off the Patriots and they are a much worse ballclub. I don’t wanna hear about Cassel, that team missed the playoffs and they regressed 5 wins. 5 wins is not small. It’s exactly the same regression from 11-5 to 6-10. Also don’t wanna hear about Garoppolo and Brissett, that team too misses the playoffs if Brady is out the entire season. The offense without Brady compared to those other guys was like night and day.

    What would Brady do without Belichick? How would he do on other teams? We’ll never know so Who cares? What would guys like Edelman and White do on other teams? What did Welker do before he came to the Patriots? And so on. Brady makes them better. Period. Indisputable Stone cold rock solid fact not opinion.

    Most importantly – longetivity of excellence. The times where Brady hasn’t been at or near the best QB in the league over the last 15 years are very few and far between. 3 league MVPs. Don’t gimme any bullmalarkey about PEDton Manning winning 5, he cheated (used HGH) to win his latest one and he had no business winning MVP over Brees in 2009 or McNair in 2003. Brady won his latest league MVP at age 40. Brady is playing at a high level at age 41. He is doing things that no other player has ever done in pro sports at his age.

    GOAT. Stone cold fact. 🙂

  93. Any reason why the Packers traded Clinton-Dix? He’s been pretty good this year and they likely would have got a compensatory pick if he signed somewhere else next year.
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    He wasn’t in their long-term plans. They pulled a Belichick.

    .. my opinion on HHC-D; a poor mans Sharper. He’d make plays, then he’d gamble and look awful. In C-Ds case, he made a lot less big plays.

    I wish they would have just let the compensatory process work itself out. But its looks like they’re going nowhere fast, so it doesn’t make too much difference.

  94. blessedunliketherest says:
    November 5, 2018 at 11:05 am
    Rodgers likes his footballs over the legal limit
    Brady likes his footballs under the legal limit
    Difference is Rodgers was honest about it and puts a little extra air in before the refs inspects the footballs.
    Brady lies about it and has the deflator take a little error out after the refs inspection.
    Brady will always be a liar and cheater like Barry and Lance.
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    Imagine trying to make this comment with a straight face? So its OK for Rodgers to cheat because he admitted to doing so but Brady is an all-out scumbag even though anyone with the slightest big of objectivity knows those balls were deflated manually. If not, please explain how 75% of the Colts balls that were tested also were below regulation after starting with a higher PSI? I’ve been waiting on an answer to that for 3 years.

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    The Colts have 0 playoff appearances and 0 seasons over .500 since they were caught with underinflated footballs the night of the 2014 AFC Championship game, a streak that likely continues this season. There really is nothing more that needs to be said than that.

    Might as well fold. They really are NOTHING without cheating.

  95. styro1 says:
    November 5, 2018 at 11:24 am
    aarons444 says:
    November 5, 2018 at 9:42 am
    QBs trade teams; scripts is the same.
    Belichick would be unbeatable with Rodgers.
    Brady can’t overcome McCarthy
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    Not likely. Rogers is not a good game manager and hardly ever takes what the D gives him. Always going for the home run or the flashy play. Rogers is a gun slinger, has a great arm and is great throwing on the run. But as he ages his legs are giving out where he’s hurt more often than not. Brady is a much better pocket passer, can read defenses a lot better and usually knows where he’s going with the ball before he snaps it, while Rogers uses his legs to give his WR time to get open.

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    Rodgers will be out of football when he reaches Brady’s age IMO. He’s not the kind of QB that can avoid (or take) a punishing hit like Brady can. All it will take is one.

    To be fair very few are.

  96. The Packers seemed to be in it until Jones fumbled. After struggling early, the defense had gotten a couple of key stops and the offense was marching downfield looking like they were about to take the lead. That said, even if Jones hadn’t fumbled and the Pack had taken the lead, it doesn’t mean they would have won the game, by any means. It was still Tom Brady and Bill Belichick on the other side. They’re not out of a game until the clock says 0:00.

    Even when NE scored after recovering the fumble, I felt like the Packers weren’t completely out of it… yet. When the NE defense stopped the Pack on the following drive, I felt it was pretty bleak. When NE scored immediately thereafter, I felt like that was the end of it. The fumble may not have ended the game, instantly or entirely on its own, but it was about as big a momentum swing as I can recall seeing lately.

    There were some poor calls but they were meaningless for the most part. The only time a bad call really matters is when it decides a game or is so late the team penalized doesn’t have time to overcome it. The Whitehead ejection was pretty weak but the Packers had plenty of time and opportunities to recover from it and they didn’t. The roughing the kicker call hurt badly, especially that late, but they could have overcome that as well… against most teams, anyways. You simply cannot make mistakes like that against a team led by a guy that good (Brady) and that well coached (Belichick). On the flip side, the Packers received an absolute gift on that one horrendous spot of the ball. Had the Packers somehow won that game, the guys that would be crying that it was because of that one spot would be as ridiculous as the guys crying the Whitehead ejection and/or the roughing the kicker call cost the Packers the game.

    Speaking of ridiculous, how about those fans of a certain team that nobody cares about like they care about the Pats and the Pack, in their desperate need for attention, twitching, grunting and whining about Rodgers catching the Pats with 12 men? What do they think the Pats were doing with that first drive or the hurry-up later in the game? On that first drive, which was utterly masterful btw, Brady caught the Pack in a personnel grouping to Brady’s liking, so he gave the Packers a choice: Stay with that group and get tore up, or try to substitute out of it and risk getting caught with 12 men… you know, the REAL reason teams (smart teams, anyways) run the hurry-up. The Packers chose to get tore up for that entire drive. When the shoe was on the other foot, the Pats chose to risk subbing personnel and they got caught. Even though they got caught, I think the Pats made the better choice. Getting caught with 12 men didn’t ensure the Packers would score on that drive (and they didn’t, if memory serves) but the Packers sticking with that unfavorable personnel match-up pretty much DID ensure the Pats would score… and they did.

    The youngsters on this Packer team are far too undisciplined. The two poor calls would never have been made at all had the youngsters not committed the bonehead moves of slapping an opponent and running into the kicker. The two young guys biting on Brady’s look-off was pretty much the last dagger. Brady’s one of the best to ever do it but getting TWO guys to bite that hard, at the same time and right next to each other, are also due to youth and poor discipline.

  97. I don’t get this whole “switch Brady and Rodgers” logic. Unless you trade one for the other straight up it a pointless what-if exercise.

    The Packers had 6 opportunities to draft Brady and they didn’t. No reason to think they should have. The Patriots were also never in a position to select Rodgers in the 05 draft and even if they did, the team would have had to get rid of a then-3 time Super Bowl champion Brady and built the roster entirely differently to support his talents. All things AREN’T equal despite what the scenario says.

    The idea is a complete absurdity and not worth the time to think about it. 🙂

  98. Packers would have easily beat the Patriots in Green Bay, same as the Chiefs would have easily beat the Patriots in KC. The Patriots keep riding the home field advantage edge in the playoffs due to the weakest division in the league that they belong to, but this year will be different. They will get their behinds handed to them in KC this year. (And let’s be crystal clear, the Chiefs don’t need to cheat!)

  99. bannedfromchoirpractice says:
    November 5, 2018 at 11:52 am

    Packers would have easily beat the Patriots in Green Bay, same as the Chiefs would have easily beat the Patriots in KC.
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    Patriots would have won 28-22 in Green Bay, and also would have defeated the Chiefs in Arrowhead on a last second 43 yard field goal.

    See? I can make up nonsense on the internet too, and then act like it’s fact.

  100. bannedfromchoirpractice says:
    November 5, 2018 at 11:52 am
    Packers would have easily beat the Patriots in Green Bay, same as the Chiefs would have easily beat the Patriots in KC. The Patriots keep riding the home field advantage edge in the playoffs due to the weakest division in the league that they belong to,
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    So, in a further effort to enforce “parity” on the league do you think the NFL should now ban the Pats from playing a game at home and make them play 16 road games?

    They always play a 1st place schedule.
    They always have the same winning % within their division and against other divisions.

    Saying that either team would “easily” beat the Pats if they were at home is comical, or are you saying that both KC and GB are too mentally soft to win games on the road?

  101. Packers would have easily beat the Patriots in Green Bay, same as the Chiefs would have easily beat the Patriots in KC. The Patriots keep riding the home field advantage edge in the playoffs due to the weakest division in the league that they belong to, but this year will be different. They will get their behinds handed to them in KC this year. (And let’s be crystal clear, the Chiefs don’t need to cheat!)
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    This comment falls into the category of when ya got nothing, throw something against the wall and see if it sticks.

    Didn’t KC get penalized a few years ago for tampering with Maclin? You know, real cheating. Not the stuff that’s made up like cold air can’t possibly affect the PSI in footballs.

  102. bannedfromchoirpractice says:
    November 5, 2018 at 11:52 am
    Packers would have easily beat the Patriots in Green Bay, same as the Chiefs would have easily beat the Patriots in KC. The Patriots keep riding the home field advantage edge in the playoffs due to the weakest division in the league that they belong to, but this year will be different. They will get their behinds handed to them in KC this year. (And let’s be crystal clear, the Chiefs don’t need to cheat!)

    How about this,

    Rams barely beat GB, Saints beat the Rams, NE Beat GB & KC,

    Nope, not worried, not one little bit. DET & JAX were the luckiest teams on the planet this year. But yo knew, deep down in your soul, the NE would be right her, right now, again.

  103. I’ve heard a version of this somewhere: the Patriots not only beat the Packers, but the Packers beat themselves.

  104. bannedfromchoirpractice says:
    November 5, 2018 at 11:52 am
    . (And let’s be crystal clear, the Chiefs don’t need to cheat!)

    Then why were they fined and why did they have a draft pick taken away

  105. Aaron Rodger made throws last night that were so beautiful you’d think they were Da Vinci’s work. GB have failed so miserably in protecting him. That said, The 2018 New England Patriots have alot of dog in them and a ton of fight. A much more complete “team”.

    Go Pats!

  106. Thetruthspeaks says:
    November 5, 2018 at 9:03 am
    Rodgers likes his footballs over the legal limit
    Brady likes his footballs under the legal limit

    Difference is Rodgers was honest about it and puts a little extra air in before the refs inspects the footballs.

    Brady lies about it and has the deflator take a little error out after the refs inspection.

    Brady will always be a liar and cheater like Barry and Lance.
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    First, nobody (including Brady) ever suggested a preference for being under the limit. It would be entirely more accurate to claim Brady preferred the PSI level at the lower end of the allowable limit. Which was the case despite the NFL trying their best to buy science into proving otherwise.

    Second, Rodgers never said he put in extra air before the refs inspected the balls. That is pure speculation on your part. It could very well have been after. If you want to call out a difference how about pointing out that the NFL took Rodgers word on that and didn’t for Brady? One called for a $5+ million dollar investigation to fail proving the ball protocol wasn’t violated. The other didn’t. It’s mind blowing how the haters fail to comprehend that somehow the NFL can make quick judgment calls (over the phone no less) to determine ball protocol violations and yet somehow managed to spend millions of dollars failing to do just that during Deflategate.

    Third, their is exactly no difference. Brady could have been upfront just like Rodgers and both would have broken the exact same rule.

    People who hate Brady and the Patriots will continue the cheating mantra during deflategate. It still won’t change the fact the NFL never proved it.

  107. openwho says:
    November 5, 2018 at 10:40 am
    Can someone tell me what Brady does that makes him the GOAT? He is on a good/great team every year with the best coach in the history of the NFL in the worst division and conference in the NFL. Stats are great but they are only relative to who you are playing. I don’t see the same success if he was in the NFC.
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    This makes sense based on Brady’s out of division\conference winning percentage … might want to take a minute and check on that. Let us know how yo make out with that.

  108. jjfootball says:
    November 4, 2018 at 11:46 pm
    Neither of these guy’s will ever be the GOAT, because it’s to easy for QB’s in this modern day football, they can get rid of the ball faster because no db is holding their receivers like they did in the past, and let’s not forget all these lame rules protecting offensive players, etc…….

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    Erm…. Tom Brady has been in the league for 20 years now numbn&ts. The only reason the league is so QB friendly is because Dungy and the Colts couldn’t beat the Pats for an extended period of time. So they petitioned the league to get tougher on DB contact down field….

    That was the beginning of the end of contact football.

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