Pat Shurmur to Eli Manning: “Everybody needs to play better”

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Giants coach Pat Shurmur told reporters earlier today that quarterback Eli Manning‘s job was safe, but the more he talked about their meeting, the more clear it became that it’s a conditional status.

Via Ryan Dunleavy of, Shurmur made it clear that he had higher expectations for his veteran quarterback

“I spoke to Eli a couple times this weekend and I explained to Eli that he is going to start Monday,” coach Pat Shurmur said. “I also explained to Eli that everybody needs to play better. As we go through this, it’s important we are not ‘almost’ in these games. We do what we have to do to get it over the top and win football games. I spoke to the team about that and I spoke to Eli about that specifically.”

Manning’s starting status has rarely been questioned — except for last year’s weirdness which led to firings of people not Manning.

But the fact that Shurmur had to have that kind of conversation with Manning is a reflection of their 1-7 record, and that Shurmur wouldn’t commit to Manning when asked if he was the starter the rest of the season was also telling.

“He’s starting Monday. You guys roll with it how you want,” Shurmur said. “With the idea that he is going to get us on a run here and there will be no decisions to be made.

“Part of the conversation was, ‘We trust you, we’re going to work with you, and we trust the fact that you are going to get us in there and help us win football games.'”

But the trust now comes with an expiration date.

10 responses to “Pat Shurmur to Eli Manning: “Everybody needs to play better”

  1. Don’t pick on Eli Mae Manning – he was saved by talent in the years he did well – but honestly, he’s the same underwhelming QB he’s always been.

  2. Why would the Giants want to win at this point??? It is all about high draft picks for them. Eagles fan!

  3. Is this a joke?

    They are so far beyond the “everyone needs to play better” level it isn’t funny.

    They should be in the “you guys are all fired” and “we are going to play the rookies so we can get the best draft pick in ’19” mode.


  5. The fact that Eli is two games over .500 for his career, and only two QB’s in the history of the league are in the HOF is not lost on the royal family of football.Namath and Jurgenson. Giants lose, he gets benched, retires, makes stupid commercials. No way Archie is going to let him end his career with a losing record. Manning’s are about greed…

  6. The easiest thing in the world is to blame Eli Manning. But anyone who thinks their record is his fault does NOT-I repeat and emphasize NOT-know football.

    This is not to say that Manning is an all time great QB. He has made his share of mistakes this year, but if you actually watch their games, you will notice a few things. Firstly, he and Barkely appear to be the only players on offense who seem to be actually trying every game (Sterling Shephard deserves a mention as well). That’s how he managed to throw for more yardage than the majority of the other QBs in the league, despite being sacked more than any other person this year.

    That brings me to the second point-that offensive line is terrible. It’s awful. Try watching one of their games-Manning is on the ground or hit on every single play. That’s not an exaggeration-even when he gets the ball out, he’s hit the majority of the time. That line is also the reason Saquon Barkley is not playing as well as he should be. Right now Barkely is not playing badly (he has a respectable 519 yards with a 4.7 YPC average), but a majority of that yardage is from long breakaway runs. Much of the time he has been hit in the backfield due to the incompetence of the O-line, and only his own personal elusiveness and balance have saved him from being hit for negative yardage.

    The receivers, Beckham included, have not made it any easier. Drops and misrun routes are all too common in Giants games. The defense is average at best, making certain plays from certain players, and then allowing a gashing run or long pass the next play.

    Manning is not Rodgers or Brady or Brees, that much is certain. He’s not Rivers or Roethlisberger either. However, you absolutely cannot watch a Giants game, paying attention to all phases, and not see that the burden of winning is placed on him every game. Too often he is relied on to go out and win it this year, despite how well Barkely is playing, due to the deficiencies elsewhere on the roster.Even in his glory years Manning was not the type of QB who should have been asked to do that, and now with that mess of an O-line and defense, he absolutely cannot do it.

    If anyone disagrees, I will politely direct them to that Falcons game to see. Manning is not a world-beater, but he is certainly not the root of the Giants’ problems and jettisoning him will solve nothing.

  7. not the root of the Giants’ problems and jettisoning him will solve nothing.
    it would distance the team from the stench of a long standing fraud scheme and give them a fresh start. manning was never more than a serviceable qb with a great defense and coaching. but when he got caught cheating his own fans and tried to indignantly bluff lie about it, he looked in the mirror and was never the same. you can’t hide that self doubt from your teammates. they smell it in a leader, and they smell L-O-S-E-R. time to slink out of town.

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