Vance Joseph: Staff in press box lacked clear replay of 2-point play

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Since the Broncos beat the Chargers on a last-play field goal, Vance Joseph’s decision not to challenge Case Keenum‘s 2-point run became a footnote. It would have become a far bigger deal if Philip Rivers and then the Broncos offense hadn’t bailed him out.

Joseph, though, continued to insist a day later that his coaches upstairs did not have a clear view of Keenum reaching the ball across the goal line before his knees hit the ground.

CBS rules analyst Gene Steratore, a former NFL referee, said during the broadcast he expected the league would have reversed the on-field ruling if the Broncos had challenged the fourth-quarter play.

The key was: Because it wasn’t a scoring play, it was not a booth review. Joseph had to initiate the challenge by throwing his red flag.

Joseph put the onus back on the officials to “get the call right” in the first place, or if they don’t, then err on the side of an automatic challenge.

“I’m talking to our staff in the press box because obviously I can’t see the replays,” Joseph said, via Nicki Jhabvala of The Athletic. “Those guys give me the evidence to challenge, so if it’s not clear, they tell me, ‘Coach, it’s not clear. We can’t tell.’

“I would prefer if the officials are not sure if it’s a positive or negative play, just call it on the positive side because it’s a built-in fix for him. Once he calls it a score, it’s reviewed. If it’s not a score, I have to obviously challenge it. If my views are not clear to challenge it, I can’t because it’s 12 minutes in that game. If I lose that challenge, it costs me something. It was more important to keep our timeout there without having clear evidence. Now, if it was clear, absolutely we would challenge it. But it wasn’t clear to our guys upstairs.”

10 responses to “Vance Joseph: Staff in press box lacked clear replay of 2-point play

  1. I thought all scoring plays were automatically reviewed. Does that not pertain to conversions for some reason? That’s totally bizarre if that is how it works.

  2. “I would prefer if the officials are not sure if it’s a positive or negative play, just call it on the positive side because it’s a built-in fix for him. Once he calls it a score, it’s reviewed. ”

    He says that now, but would not like the idea the first time they called an iffy TD against him and the call on the field stood because it wasn’t indisputable to overturn.

    It is your job to look out for the interests of your team. If the booth guys are not getting that in to you on time, find other guys.

  3. Denver fan here & a 50+ yr fan of the NFL. This team of refs were a joke throughout the game for both teams. The NFL should review and remove most of them as they did recently. Check out the 4th down & the announcers said it was a TD. VJ was asked at today’s presser & said that Case Keenum was told by 1 ref ” you should challenge that call” And Adam Schefter ( from Denver was just on saying it was a joke). THE NFL SHOULD REVIEW WHETHER IT WAS A SCORE PERIOD. The current rules the team only sees the TV review, not the league cameras. And Gene Steratore from TV also said it was a score. And back up and watch the Bronco receiver get mugged on a pass & THEY CALL HIM FOR PI! Again Dan Fouts said he saw no touching by our player who was grabbed. At the very least, it should have been offsetting. Instead, we get backed up. Lucky none of this mattered, but if this was playoff game or Superbowl – wow.

  4. mogogo1 says:
    November 19, 2018 at 5:04 pm

    I thought all scoring plays were automatically reviewed.
    ————————————————————————————
    It wasn’t a scoring play.

  5. The fact is, the college replay system is far superior to anything the NFL has come up with. Every play is subject to review, and the game flow is only impacted if there’s reason to believe the call on the field was incorrect. It’s not perfect…but it’s far better and more reliable than the NFL’s process.

    The NFL refuses to consider it because doing so would be a tacit acknowledgement that someone else found a better way of doing it.

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