Baker Mayfield’s numbers are way up since Hue and Haley were fired

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Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield snubbed ex-coach Hue Jackson after today’s win in Cincinnati, where Jackson is now an assistant coach. When you look at Mayfield’s stats, it’s easy to see why Mayfield doesn’t think much of Jackson.

That’s because Mayfield has been much, much better since Jackson and former Browns offensive coordinator Todd Haley were fired.

In the six games Mayfield played with Jackson as his head coach and Haley calling the plays, Mayfield completed 58.3 percent of his passes, averaged 6.6 yards per pass, totaled eight touchdowns and six interceptions, and had a 78.9 passer rating.

In the three games Mayfield has played since Jackson and Haley were fired, Mayfield completed 73.9 percent of his passes, averaged 8.8 yards per pass, totaled nine touchdowns and one interception, and has a 129.5 passer rating.

Mayfield has also become the first rookie in NFL history to have back-to-back games with a passer rating higher than 140.

How much of this change is just Mayfield developing, how much is the fault of Jackson, how much is the fault of Haley, and how much is to the credit of interim head coach Gregg Williams and new offensive coordinator Freddie Kitchens, can all be debated. But there’s little doubt that Mayfield is a better player right now than he was just a month ago.

68 responses to “Baker Mayfield’s numbers are way up since Hue and Haley were fired

  1. Yeah, but he just got done feasting on that horrific Bengals defense, and obviously that was a boon to his numbers. Just saying.

  2. Seems you might wanna factor the opponents into that equation. Not denying his numbers are better nor the current scheme may be better. But the opponents are different, ain’t no denying that either.

  3. well it helps that Njoku and the WRs are actually catching the ball now instead of dropping it lol

  4. Mayfield looks legit but what were the teams he just played well against the bengals falcons and buccaneers. What do they all have in common? Their defenses are really terrible. But mayfield is playing good and I think the browns hit a homerun

  5. Dak did GREAT when Romo was on the sidelines. Coaches are key to development. Dak NEEDS a QB coach to go from Good to Great!

  6. when he plays good the opponents are trash, if he has a bad game these same haters are ready to trash him. Like him and his personality or not, he’s good.

  7. Browns should be 8-3 at the worst. A kick, a ref, and a early whistle away from Div leaders, and this isnt factoring Baker should of started the season. They could be undefeated for all we know, at worst 10-1

  8. Gotta give the Falcons and Bengals defenses being terrible some of that credit. I mean his second worse game was also after Hue and Haley got fired.

    On a related note Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen also look great since Hue and Haley got fired.

  9. Hue is probably dialing up Jeff Fisher right now:
    ” Hey Jeff, it’s Hue. Want to get together for a drink or two? Maybe talk about how we both don’t have a clue on how to deal with top QB draft picks?.”

  10. Things are definitely looking up for the Browns. Mayfield, barring unforeseen circumstances, looks like he’ll have a great career; he reminds you of Brees at a similar stage. They are amassing some nice talent around him, and it wouldn’t be surprising to see Williams have the ‘interim’ title removed soon?

  11. The fact that Haley was actively trying to sabotage Hue by all accounts in order to be the interim head coach probably didn’t help Mayfield. Hard to put up great numbers when your OC has his own agenda like that. Getting that kind of toxicity out of the building was likely a benefit to the entire team.

  12. jhorton83 says:
    November 25, 2018 at 9:26 pm
    The fact that Haley was actively trying to sabotage Hue by all accounts in order to be the interim head coach probably didn’t help Mayfield. Hard to put up great numbers when your OC has his own agenda like that. Getting that kind of toxicity out of the building was likely a benefit to the entire team.

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    The comment he made about trusting and believing in the play calling now was extraordinary.

  13. Talking about the defenses he just played? Lol. Most the defenses in the league suck these days. It’s a passing league now. Can’t play the Bears every week. Gonna have way more games against “bad” defenses than good ones these days.

  14. jhorton83 says:
    November 25, 2018 at 9:26 pm
    The fact that Haley was actively trying to sabotage Hue by all accounts in order to be the interim head coach probably didn’t help Mayfield. Hard to put up great numbers when your OC has his own agenda like that. Getting that kind of toxicity out of the building was likely a benefit to the entire team

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    Sounds exactly like what Jason Garrett did to Wade Phillips, only it worked for him….smh

  15. I like Mayfield, but I thought he was pretty classless after the game and in the press conference. I’ll just chalk it off to immaturity.

  16. Playing to his strengths which are arm strength and accuracy. Spreading out the defenses with an empty backfield. Finding the open receiver. Can’t wait to see what can do in away games against Houston and Denver.

  17. I like Mayfield, but I thought he was pretty classless after the game and in the press conference. I’ll just chalk it off to immaturity.

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    I agree, but it makes you wonder how toxic the environment was. Time to move on for Baker.

  18. calizcowboyz says:
    November 25, 2018 at 8:54 pm
    Dak did GREAT when Romo was on the sidelines. Coaches are key to development. Dak NEEDS a QB coach to go from Good to Great!

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    Was this an article about Dak? By the way Dak still can’t complete a pass more than 15 yards and is nothing —— in fact ABSOLUTELY nothing without Elliott. Who will be gone after this rookie contract.

    Now back to the actual article. Nobody knows what Baker will be for a few years. The Browns need to draft for the o line and d line. If they do they will turn this around quickly. If they start grabbing WR and RB forget it.

  19. You fake news hack, Mayfield didnt “snub” Hue, he shook his hand after the game. Also you are making up your assertion that Mayfield doesnt think much of Hue. Hack.

  20. That`s on Haley.He was in control of the offense and the play calling and that sure wasn`t Jackson`s decision. Haslam hires Dorsey but wouldn`t let Dorsey fire Hue yet because he blamed Sashi Brown so Dorsey talks Haslam into hiring Haley to “help” Jackson out creating chaos between Jackson & Haley and blowing up the season until Haslam relents to letting Dorsey make his own coaching hire. Things are looking brighter for the Browns but when the problem starts with ownership that is hands on but doesn`t really know football it`s normally short high followed by another long low.

  21. ebhaynz says:
    November 25, 2018 at 10:10 pm
    Believe it or not Haley was the head coach of the KC Chiefs for a few years and he was absolutely HORRIBLE.

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    3 years, 2009-2011. Won the AFC West in 2010 with a 10-6 record.

  22. Arrogant, young QBs who think they know more than their coaches don’t usually last long in the NFL. The Browns won their first road game in three years and now Baker Mayfield is acting like he’s king of the hill. Baker Mayfield is the QB of a last place team and that’s all.

  23. Dakota is NOT A QB – he is a fraud – he is a running back who dresses up in a QB Halloween costume and would much prefer to run than pass.

    Mayfield proves how Baby Huey has no place in the NFL in any capacity. He is a cancer and a negative influence on everyone he touches. Even as an assistant coach, he never achieved jack as his offenses collapsed in the playoffs.

  24. Browns have won nearly as many games since Hue was fired as when Hue was Coach (2 versus 3), in 37 fewer games.
    teams with bad Defenses can still win games, the whole team is playing better. Mayfield haters face it the kid has something. You just hate it because he has the guts to say what he thinks not what will make other people feel better. It is obvious he did not care much for Hue Jackson, don’t know why don’t care but he has his reasons.

  25. Remember on Hard Knocks when Hue Jackson dismissed his coordinators opinions because they weren’t sitting in the big chair like him? Well now Jackson is back to being a coordinator and one of those assistants is doing a better job with his old team.

  26. It’s too early for me to make a call on Mayfield, but I’ve seen enough of Hue to know he’s no good.

  27. Imagine that, you get rid of a terrible coach and your players improve. Coaching is the most important factor in player development and considering the capital spent on QBs and how vital they are these days, maybe, just maybe, teams should also go all out on getting the right coaching staff when drafting these guys. Keeping Hue made no sense whatsoever to begin with.

  28. Mrfrostij?

    What you gonna whine about when Mayfield beats BAL and CIN again in the next 5 weeks to finish 4-1-1 in the North?

  29. Ohio447…?

    And Aaron Rogers isn’t arrogant?

    He just set the NFL rookie record with back to back 140 passer ratings, l’ll take arrogance all day!

    Looks like the last place team in the North will be your Bengals when this season is over.

  30. steelerdeathstar says:
    November 25, 2018 at 9:25 pm
    Things are definitely looking up for the Browns. Mayfield, barring unforeseen circumstances, looks like he’ll have a great career; he reminds you of Brees at a similar stage

    >>>Nah, Brees didn’t even play his rookie season.

  31. savethebs says:
    November 25, 2018 at 9:44 pm
    Talking about the defenses he just played? Lol. Most the defenses in the league suck these days. It’s a passing league now.

    I agree but 80% of the reason they suck is because these coaches emphasize stripping the ball instead of tackling, how many times have you watched a receiver/runner get an extra 5, 10, 15yds or a TD because the defenders all tried to strip the ball and not a one tried to tackle? For me it’s been more times than I can count, I jump up at least a dozen times a week screaming at the TV “JUST TACKLE HIM”!!!!!! And that’s just in the 3 games I watch, how many times does it happen in the rest of the games I don’t see?

  32. People saying look what defenses he played against? Come on now, please. I can guarantee that if Hue and Haley were out a long time ago, there would be at least 2 more wins: Oakland and Tampa Bay. The biggest indictment on Hue is not knowing that your own kicker had a pulled groin and found out only after he cost us another game vs. the Saints. Hue is CLUELESS forget about Class. Class doesn’t win games in the NFL.

  33. I can’t remember an NFL QB that had a long career that wasn’t savvy enough to keep that kind of stuff out of a press conference. Dude better figure out how to tighten some of his loose screws when he has a microphone in his face or it’s gonna be a short one.

  34. How does this have anything to do with them being gone? The last 3 games were against 3 of the worst defenses in the league. But no its all cause they are gone. Smh.

  35. A head coach with confidence (Williams) and an offensive coordinator who isn’t dramatic, selfish, and stubborn (Kitchens) helps. These guys are coaching better, and the players are playing better without Hue and Haley. I think both are overrated.
    Well… they WERE overrated. This kinda evidence might be changing that.

  36. Lost a lot of respect for Mayfield yesterday ,,was in his corner big time before yesterday ,,with in the blink of an I Iam rooting against him and can’t wait for this game to humble him !

  37. Mayfield proves how Baby Huey has no place in the NFL in any capacity. He is a cancer and a negative influence on everyone he touches.
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    But… but… he’s the “quarterback whisperer”. I didn’t know who Jackson was when he was hired as HC, and I still don’t know what that term means, but after hearing it for the two-hundredth time, I started rooting for the guy to fail.

    So what exactly is a “quarterback whisperer”? Let’s see: JaMarcus Russell failed. Terrelle Pryor failed. Johnny Manziel failed. Kevin Hogan failed. Cody Kessler failed. Deshone Kizer failed. RG3 2.0 failed. Only two of Jackson’s starters remain in the league: the eternally mediocre Joe Flacco and Andy Dalton. I guess we’ll never know where the term came from, but Mayfield should thank the Haslam family on bended knee for firing this bozo.

  38. joetoronto says:
    November 26, 2018 at 6:11 am
    Great pick by Dorsey, meanwhile the Bills moved up to take Josh Allen. SMH.

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    How can a fan of a team that is paying Derek Carr $26M a year be laughing at anyone?

  39. I never thought I’d say this but the Browns finally hit big in the draft after years of bad luck. It looks like they got the clear cut best QB, best corner, top two RB, this team has a lot going for them, just maybe add another receiver next year along with a true LT if possible and they could be a playoff team.

  40. Hue wanted Haley to take advantage of Mayfield strengths instead of having his rigid offense. Instead of listening to Jackson they fired him and then did exactly what he told them to do.

  41. Hue was a horrible coach. He took the first player in the draft, in a position to lead the team out of the decade long mediocrity and gave him ZERO reps with the starters throughout the season until the day he was forced to start.

  42. Most instructive thing in these comments is seeing how toxic some fans are even when things go well. Mayfield had the nerve to actually play well and win. Let’s hate on him!!!

  43. Hue had to go, but the rift between him and Haley was massive. Another “great” hire by the incompetent Jimmy Haslam. Even on the day they were all let go, Hue was on his way to let Haley know he was going to be fired. He was shocked to learn he was also fired. Clearly Haley had a lot to do with the poor playcalling.

  44. vincemantooth says:
    November 26, 2018 at 9:25 am

    So what exactly is a “quarterback whisperer”? Let’s see: JaMarcus Russell failed. Terrelle Pryor failed. Johnny Manziel failed. Kevin Hogan failed. Cody Kessler failed. Deshone Kizer failed. RG3 2.0 failed. Only two of Jackson’s starters remain in the league: the eternally mediocre Joe Flacco and Andy Dalton. I guess we’ll never know where the term came from, but Mayfield should thank the Haslam family on bended knee for firing this bozo.
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    Considering Hue Jackson probably doesn’t even know Jamarcus Russell or Johnny Manziel let alone have ever coached them and was the one to convince Terrelle Pryor that he’d make a better receiver than a QB this comment is confusing.

    Jacksons QB’s were Joe Flacco (Baltimore), Carson Palmer (Oakland) and Andy Dalton (Cincinnati). He’s to this day the only coach to get consistent production out of Terelle Pryor in any position, the last coach to get production out of RG3 as a QB (RG3’s last win was as a Brown)and nearly beat the Pittsburgh Steelers with Deshone Kizer (who looked like he never played football in his life when he came in earlier this year for Green Bay) and was a kicker away from having a winning record with Tyrod Taylor against teams that may end the season with less than 5 losses.

    The guys only real knock is his head coaching career having beeb with two of the consistently worst franchises to work for in the NFL who constantly throws coaches under the bus because the terrible owners sabotage them.

    People mock when assistants refuse to interview for head coaching jobs but Hue Jackson is the poster child for why you stay a coordinator until the right job comes along. 0 coaches have done well with the Browns or Raiders for any sustainable period of time.

  45. Not sure about Jackson, but when Haley was in KC he was a cancer, apparently so in Pittsburgh and most recently in Cleveland.

  46. While Mayfield is certainly improving, lets call it what it is. The Browns last three opponents are 30th, 28th and 32nd in total defense. To simply state it is SOLELY because Haley and Jackson are gone is silly. Just another example of the media ignoring the total picture and all of the facts when trying to push their agenda or make their point. More likely it is a combination of many reasons…

  47. We Browns fans have put up with you haters and your mockery for years. Now, as we finally begin to turn the corner with players and a QB that have a little pride and fire in their gut, you continue to hate and criticize. Well I for one don’t care.Baker has been the best QB since Modell took the team and left. Finally! Thanks John Dorsey.

  48. Just loooked at their record and they’ve been in a bunch of 3 point games. Won a couple lost a few… by 3 points. They could very easily have a much better record. They should be a contender to maybe make the playoffs next season. Quite the turnaround. Good for them… and their fans.

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