Kyle Shanahan: Hopefully this is “rock bottom” for Reuben Foster

AP

The 49ers officially released linebacker Reuben Foster on Monday, and 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan spent much of his press conference answering questions about the former first-round pick.

Shanahan said the team was “absolutely not” aware of an October incident or report involving Foster.

“The first time I heard about it was when someone told us when we landed after it was written in paper,” Shanahan said, via quotes distributed by the team. “Everyone in our building was the same on that. I was aware that Reuben had spoken with her and still talked to her at times. I knew that from just asking him personally. Like, ‘How are things in her life? Have you seen her in a while?’ But by no means did I think that they were ever living together or dating again.”

The 49ers decided to cut Foster after he was arrested on suspicion of domestic violence Saturday night at the team hotel in Tampa. The San Francisco Chronicle later discovered the domestic violence report made to Santa Clara, California, police on Oct. 12.

“We knew Rueben had a string of making bad decisions,” Shanahan said. “We knew that when we took him. We thought he would improve, and we were going to do everything we could to help him, and Reuben did improve in some things. But, you know, for that to come up for what did happen last year or earlier in this year, and then for what happened Saturday with the same person at a team hotel, it’s just hard to comprehend how you could put yourself in that situation again. I’m not OK with that regardless. I don’t know exactly what happened. Obviously, any time you’re dealing with domestic violence or anything like that, when there is a victim in domestic violence, there’s not many things in this world more wrong than domestic violence and things like that.

“. . . I don’t know exactly what happened between Reuben and the accuser. But after this happened a second time with the same person in our hotel, I think that decision-making was enough for us to move on. Who knows what happened. Maybe people will find out. But that wasn’t why we made this decision.”

The 49ers gave Foster a second chance after Foster’s offseason domestic violence arrest. Foster, though, ran out of chances, with Shanahan saying Foster’s latest arrest makes it “very hard to trust” Foster again.

“I thought rock bottom was last time, and I thought it would be very simple that that would be his wakeup call,” Shanahan said, “and I think it was in a lot of areas, but to put yourself in the situation that he put himself in, whether it happened or not, if it happened it’s so easy, but if it didn’t, that still was too bad of a decision to make us comfortable with keeping that person in our organization. Hopefully this is rock bottom for him, and he can fix himself in all those ways and still find a way to go have success in his life or hopefully another team someday.”

Shanahan called Foster “a couple of times” Monday. Foster has not returned his call.

36 responses to “Kyle Shanahan: Hopefully this is “rock bottom” for Reuben Foster

  1. When i used to teach there were those students who were incorrigible and habitual line steppers who no matter what remained the same. When giving more chances and being enabled all your life actually rewarded 1st Round pick, it doesnt surprise me in the least bit that this idiot didn’t get it.

    Some are smart and you never hear a peep from them because theu now if they keep their head clean and produce at elite levels the rewards will be massive. Looking at you Tyreek Hill.

  2. How about answering why Lynch drafted Foster and Solomon Thomas in the first round and NEITHER have played like it? OR why you drafted, kept and ultimately enabled Foster, although he had character issues coming out of college? This is why owners should hire experienced personnel men to lead franchises, not someone who was a good player and you just assume he can do a job he was NEVER EVER trained for

  3. Is it legit to wonder what incidents may have been buried by Saban and Alabama? Is it credible to believe none of this started before Foster got to the NFL?

  4. AutonomousThinker7 says: This is why owners should hire experienced personnel men to lead franchises, not someone who was a good player and you just assume he can do a job he was NEVER EVER trained for
    ***********************************************
    Remember back a couple years ago when all we read about was what kind of disaster Jed York was? Jed was being raked over the coals daily. So when was the last time you heard or read anything negative about Jed? Since John Lynch was hired, he’s been the face and voice of the franchise. Do you seriously think Jed gives a hoot about winning? His parents’ franchise is making money like never before and Jed is out of the headlines. If you ask Jed, I’d bet he’d tell you John Lynch is doing exactly what he’s being paid to do. I’m not saying whether I think Lynch is a good GM or a bad GM, and I still think Solomon Thomas has a chance to be a great player. But John Lynch wasn’t hired to help win football games. That’s just not a big priority in Santa Clara since Eddie DeBartolo has been gone. Eddie won, and he made money. That’s why he’s a HOFer. Eddie didn’t need to hire someone to be his shield. He didn’t have any reason to hide.

  5. The sad thing is that when this guy is 35 he’ll be a personal trainer at Bally’s or something and could have been set for life.

  6. Charlie Charger — actually the franchise is having all kinds of issues in Santa Clara starting with a mutiny of local fans including many of the big $$$ Silicon Valley companies who don’t like to support ‘negative energy’ which the team has plenty of.

    The team has lawsuits with the City over use and control of facilities. The stadium has terrible traffic patterns over regular streets and backs up to a theme park.

    So I think ol’ Jedd has a lot of other issues to deal with than winning football.

  7. Unfortunately, I don’t think he’s hit rock bottom. Guys with behavioral problems like this don’t stop doing bad and stupid things on a dime.

  8. Something tells me it isn’t. People thought it was rock bottom for Aldon Smith when he was suspended the first time….then the second time. Guys like Foster usually hit bottom when they are sitting in prison with a life sentence. Only then will they realize the enormity of their actions.

    It’s hard for me to believe he didn’t have incidents while he was at Alabama. I’m sure Saban has some Alabama fans on the Tuscaloosa Police Department (like UF and FSU) and has the ability to quell incidents with his players. I can’t imagine his behavior started while he was in the NFL. I understand being in a toxic relationship. I don’t understand why people think it’s justifiable to let things get physical.

    In some ways I’ll be surprised if another team picks him up next year but then again, Greg Hardy was signed by Dallas after he was convicted then paid off the victim. Nothing surprised me in the NFL anymore. If a team thinks he can help them, they’ll sign him–although there are only a few teams who embrace guys like that (Bengals, Cowboys, Ravens come to mind).

  9. “but to put yourself in the situation that he put himself in, whether it happened or not, if it happened it’s so easy, but if it didn’t, that still was too bad of a decision to make us comfortable with keeping that person in our organization.”

    Wait. What?

    So you are saying that you were going to cut him anyway, even if this incident never happened. Because it MIGHT happen?

  10. “I was aware that Reuben had spoken with her and still talked to her at times. I knew that from just asking him personally. Like, ‘How are things in her life? Have you seen her in a while?”

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    This is grounds for being fired.

    Failure to facilitate the up-coaching of a team asset.

  11. Remember when people were calling the Chiefs all kinds of stupid for bringing in Tyreek Hill? Sometimes a gamble pays off, sometimes it doesn’t. It’s not really possible in a job interview to look deep into a 21-year-old’s eyes and know which way they’re going to go.

  12. Reminds me of Rolando McClain. Could have been one of the best linebackers in the league if he kept his head straight.

  13. For everyone complaining why draft people with character red flags. Baker Mayfield Randy Moss Dak Presscot even Peyton Manning had some character issues on the other hand Rae Caruth had none.

  14. commentawaitingdeletion says:
    November 26, 2018 at 9:57 pm
    You can’t fix stupid
    ——
    If you mean someone else is “You” then no.

    I do believe that you/yourself can fix stupid.
    It takes a lot of effort and it doesn’t happen with the flick of a switch.
    Only you can fix you. All anyone else can do is point you in the right direction.

  15. I’m sure that Fosters parents are ever so proud of their son….and they shouldn’t be.
    I blame Foster himself, his parents, and his family, in that order, for what has happened.
    None of his coaches, teammates, teachers, trainers, or agents are to blame in any way.
    At some point the media MUST place full accountability on the player himself.
    It is NOT the job of the coaches, trainers, or team to babysit idiots like Foster who refuse to behave themselves.

  16. wryly1 says:
    November 26, 2018 at 10:24 pm
    Is it legit to wonder what incidents may have been buried by Saban and Alabama? Is it credible to believe none of this started before Foster got to the NFL?

    ————————————————————————————
    This is a great question and point and I’ve thought the same thing. Of course, no one would dare ask Saban about this.

  17. I remember all those expert draft guru’s were saying the Niners got an A-plus for drafting Thomas and Foster in the first round…………how’s that working for them now?

  18. AutonomousThinker7 says: “This is why owners should hire experienced personnel men to lead franchises, not someone who was a good player and you just assume he can do a job he was NEVER EVER trained for.”
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    John Elway – Super Bowl 50
    Ozzie Newsome – Super Bowl XXXV & XLVII

  19. No excuses to be had, but the comment about Foster’s parents is extremely ironic considering his family history. I do think this is rock bottom for him and I do think he will be signed somewhere and come out of all this ahead over the course of the next couple of years…

  20. Hard to believe a report was filed on October 12th and no one knew about it…Young GM big mistake drafting this kid due to poor job by support staff from day one…these dudes are survivors and just like addicts can fool you over short periods of time like planned visits/meetings etc…. when building a team let somebody else take the risk you cant afford….

  21. It’s a violent sport played by violent people. And pretty much every team has had a problem child at one time or another. Put the pitchforks away.

  22. It’s easy to call a guy an idiot when you’ve never had to walk in his shoes. Most of the people commenting on here are pretty privileged. His father shot his mom while she was holding him at 18 months old. I think Reuben was grazed by the bullet too. His dad ended up in jail and he grew up very poor. He has issues but I hope he figures them out and ends up becoming a standup citizen.

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