Tom Coughlin: We were a whistle away from the Super Bowl, now we’re way down

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Jaguars front office boss Tom Coughlin is not happy with what has become of the football team he built.

Coughlin said today on 1010XL in Jacksonville that last year, a quick whistle in the AFC Championship Game robbed the Jaguars of a trip to the Super Bowl, and now the entire team is playing poorly.

“A whistle, we’re in the Super Bowl,” Coughlin said. “Let’s face it. Our numbers are down all over the place. Our sacks are down, our pressures are down, our turnovers are huge, our penalties — the way we behave on the field is ridiculous, our penalties.”

Although Coughlin didn’t directly criticize head coach Doug Marrone, those comments suggest he thinks Marrone hasn’t done a good enough job of getting his team to play the kind of disciplined, mistake-free football that Coughlin has always demanded. And Coughlin did say he needs to evaluate everything after the season.

“At the end of every season you have to go through every point about your team, and this will be no different,” Coughlin said.

Coughlin sounds like he’s determined to make significant changes in the offseason. Those changes will likely include a new starting quarterback and a revamped offense. But the changes could go even further than that, and Coughlin didn’t sound like he was too pleased with the job Marrone is doing. Of course, it’s also possible that Jaguars owner Shad Khan isn’t too pleased with the job Coughlin is doing, and that the Jaguars will make changes even bigger than the ones Coughlin has in mind.

115 responses to “Tom Coughlin: We were a whistle away from the Super Bowl, now we’re way down

  1. Here’s something that needs to be pointed out by Captain Obvious…
    Maybe they aren’t as good as they think they are….

  2. Fournette leaving the sidelines to engage in a fight – getting himself suspended and finding even more ways to help his team lose – pretty much sums up the Jags this year. Poor play on all sides of the ball and completely lacking discipline. Can’t believe how much their defense has slid year over year. Wholesale changes needed from the top down…

  3. This team was clearly playing with fairy dust last season. Quick whistle or not, you didn’t make it to the SB because you didn’t deserve to.

  4. If they didn’t take their feet off the gas in the second half, the whistle wouldn’t have mattered. This was a borderline call at most, arguably the correct call, they happen in every game.

  5. The only reason the Jaguars were good last year is because 50% of their division was decimated by injuries when the Jags only had one player with a major injury. Welcome to the law of averages and your rightful place in the division.

  6. One thing people don’t talk about a lot is how much the defense misses Paul Pozlusky. Sure, he wasn’t the greatest cover LB in football, but he was a field general that told the yonger LB’s (Jack & Smith) where they had to be. They clearly miss him and are one of the main reasons for all of the blown assignments on that side of the ball this year.

  7. Bortles is a QB that needs a strong run game and good defense, in order to take pressure off him, give him good field position to work with, and enable him to use play-action. He doesn’t have those things this season, and he’s not really the type of QB that can lift a team and win games himself. Jax looks like they made a 54-million $ mistake there, the kind that can set a franchise back 3-5 years. They also lack discipline and like to run their mouths a lot, without backing it up with their play.

    Since Tom Coughlin is the architect of this team, maybe the harshest light from their ownership will shine on him? No matter what, they will likely have smoe major changes between now and next season.

  8. If they’d done this last year they’d be Superbowl contenders. Saw the stat on ESPN this morning showing Blake Bortles is actually playing better this year than last. Talk about a complete and abject failure of leadership in the Jags organization.

  9. mmack66 says:
    November 27, 2018 at 10:09 am
    Is that the play where Lewis was down by contact with possession of the ball?

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    Yes, it was. What’s funny is, Pats HAters are so blind with hate, they can’t even see when Goodell cheats against the Pats. They don’t care. They just want it done.

    Possession was clearly re-established all the way to the ground.

    Yet somehow the rules get changed during the game and it’s a “quick whistle” to help the Pats.

    Absolutely unreal the depths the rest of the NFL and Goodell will go to try to cheat to manipulate game outcomes.

  10. Say what you will about Coughlin but he has proven he knows how to instill discipline in an organization and get them on the right path. I believe he will get the ship righted next year. I say this as a Cowboys fan that contended against his Giants each year.

  11. robigd says:
    November 27, 2018 at 10:12 am
    One thing people don’t talk about a lot is how much the defense misses Paul Pozlusky. Sure, he wasn’t the greatest cover LB in football, but he was a field general that told the yonger LB’s (Jack & Smith) where they had to be. They clearly miss him and are one of the main reasons for all of the blown assignments on that side of the ball this year.

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    This is some next level analysis, my good friend!
    Paul Posluszny (you are allowed to check spelling via Google) played 46.18% snaps in 2017 (also Google). He has little to do with what’s going on this year.

  12. I think that the Jags peaked too soon into the season. After beating New England many people though that the Jags were going to run away not only with the AFC South (because both the Colts and the Texans were terrible at that time), but most pundits thought that the Jags were going to be a legitimate SB contender. Unfortunately in the NFL you have to work hard every single week, and also be humble. Hope they learned their lesson.

  13. He’s right & all the haters in the room will jump ship (again) as early as next yr. Book it!!!
    I don’t believe Marrone is worthy of another yr (he’s clearly lost the entire locker room). Last yr wasnt a fluke, the talent is clearly there (Bortles actually played damn good football during 2nd half of 2018, not to mention playoffs), so I didn’t have a problem with the FO handing him a 3yr “team friendly” contract which we can cut bait during this coming offseason. All’s good ladies, pave way for a return come 2019.

  14. Coughlin’s comments encapsulate the Jaguars problems this year. He’s still focused on last year, even though it has no bearing on this season. He also assumes Jacksonville would have won the AFCCG, if not for a “bad” call, just like the team assumed they would repeat their 2017 performance this year.

    Just a reminder, here are the Jaguars last four possessions of the 2017 AFCCG, when they had the ball and a 10 point lead: Punt, punt, punt, turnover on downs. This was while the defense surrendered 2 TDs. Keep blaming the “quick whistle,” but it was Jacksonville’s poor performance on both sides of the ball that cost them the game.

  15. I think injuries ARE an excuse.

    This team has been DECIMATED by injuries. Oline/TE/RB etc etc

    What is the main difference between THIS team and team from week 2 that kicked Patriots ass?

    INJURIES.

    We now have 2nd and 3rd string offensive roster that cant block or make plays so Bortles flaws get magnified. Against Pats we were almost full strength and team played VERY WELL.

  16. Good teams, from the front office to the actual players, don’t make excuses for a loss. They own it, they learn from the mistakes, and they move on. In this case, Coughlin is blaming the officials for the loss to the Patriots, when in reality, Jacksonville let up in the second half and the better team won. As for this season, he stuck with Bortles, so he’s reaping what he sowed. His head coach isn’t so hot either. So who is to blame?

  17. The main problem is that everyone, all the players the local media and the fans, started acting like they already won the Super Bowl.

    What a difference an off-season makes.

  18. cmack21 says: “And yet you chose to keep Bortles at qb”
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    Entire offense is built to run, run and run. Yet Fournette only played in 5 games this year and will be suspended for another. Do you know who the wide recievers are? Donte Moncrief and two rookies, Dede Westbrook and Keelan Cole. Yuck.

    Bortles probably isn’t Pro-Bowl material, but blaming him for the season is just ridiculous. Bortles earned his contract last year by single-handedly keeping Jaguars in the playoffs while Fournette disappeared against the Pats in the second half (11 runs for 19 yards.)

  19. r8rsfan says:
    November 27, 2018 at 10:24 am
    Tuck rule was the death blow to the Raiders climb – sometimes a call really does change the outcome and immediate future of a team.

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    Well, the Pats had that called AGAINST THEM in 2001 and went on to win a SB and form a dynasty so try again.

  20. Flash1287
    Nov 27, 2018, 10:15 AM EST
    It’s called a FLUKE season. See the Eagles also.

    DUUUUUUVAL!!

    Let’s yell the name of are county.

    Morons
    _________________________________
    The irony is rich with this one. “Are” county

  21. jagsfan1 says:
    November 27, 2018 at 10:34 am
    I think injuries ARE an excuse.

    This team has been DECIMATED by injuries. Oline/TE/RB etc etc

    What is the main difference between THIS team and team from week 2 that kicked Patriots ass?

    INJURIES.

    We now have 2nd and 3rd string offensive roster that cant block or make plays so Bortles flaws get magnified. Against Pats we were almost full strength and team played VERY WELL.

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    Pats were decimated last year on D and almost won a SB. Goodell cheated to make sure it didn’t happen.

    Congrats.

  22. cheapseater says:
    November 27, 2018 at 10:24 am
    This is some next level analysis, my good friend!
    Paul Posluszny (you are allowed to check spelling via Google) played 46.18% snaps in 2017 (also Google). He has little to do with what’s going on this year.
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    Outside of being grammar police, I think you completely missed my point. I am saying the LB Corp misses his leadership.

  23. Bortles is terrible and shouldn’t have gotten a new deal, anyone could and can see that.

    The refs were ordered to carry New England past Jacksonville, anyone could and can see that.

    Can’t wait til Brady gets sick of his no integrity boss and the NFL no longer believes it’s good business to make disgraces of games to get new England in the Superbowl like that travesty of a game where they blew Jacksonvilles TD return dead midplay.

    All turnovers and touchdowns are automatically reviewed, 0 excuse to stop the play.

    Only reason to do it is to give new England a win they couldn’t take with their own hands. Loser patriot fanboys who want to pretend different only expose their inability to even be honest with themselves.

  24. You didn’t make it to the Super Bowl because your coach didn’t trust your QB and took 3 knees before halftime with over a minute to play in the first half and otherwise took the ball out of his hands. You then demonstrated the pigheadedness you have been known for and extended the QB that your coaching staff didn’t trust. Yes, there are other problems, but it starts there.

  25. Last season was an anomaly. J-Ville was/ will NEVER win anything with Bortles at QB. That contract extension was one of the dumbest things the organization has done. The team is “way down” because they bought into their hype and imploded and tuned their coaches out. Having a cornerback, that hasn’t won anything and refuses to stop smacking his gums hasn’t helped matters either.

  26. Tom Coughlin was gifted two super bowls against the Patriots, you live by the sword , you die by the sword. He insinuates he didn’t go the super bowl last season because of a quick whistle???, I say his team wasn’t good enough to beat the Pats in Foxboro.

    Whatever, who cares. The league has changed so much that if you don’t have a good offense to take advantage of the rules, you are not doing a good job as a GM. All of the teams going to playoffs are scoring alot of points. Defense is gone forever (for better or for worse).

  27. Team benefited from playing a last place schedule in a division where Luck and Watson were out for the year. Watson and Luck are back and the team is playing a first place schedule, of course this over hyped and over rated garbage team was going to regress.


  28. Against Pats we were almost full strength and team played VERY WELL.
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    All teams play the Patriots like it is their SB and then fold like a beach chair right after.
    See the pattern: Jags, Lions and very latest – Titans.

  29. r8ersfan correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t your Raiders go to the Super Bowl the following year? I’m sure you’ve blocked that game out but I remember them getting absolutely embarrassed by Tampa. It wasn’t the Tuck Rule that destroyed your team, it was Gruden when he left for the Bucs. And now he’s back 16 years later to finish off destroying your franchise. It’s really come full circle

  30. The only 3 times in the Jaguars history where they sniffed a Super Bowl, Tom Coughlin was behind them. Coughlin owns Belichick with a 71.4% winning percentage. Tom Coughlin obviously isn’t the problem here and the Jags are very lucky to get him back to help right their ship.

  31. How in the world has Tom Coughlin managed to retain his reputation as a disciplinarian after the debacle in NY with OBJ that got him canned and the continuous lip flapping from Ramsey in Jax?

  32. That’s the way it is in the NFL. Look at the Eagles. They got drunk (literally) on their success and now, less than a year later, they are a lousy team.

  33. Further more, the Jags didn’t go the the SB because they made the same mistake that the Falcons made. They didn’t play a complete game. A game is 4 quarters, you can’t play well three quarters and take the 4th off and think you’re walking away with the win. Especially against New England.

  34. Didn’t they have one of the easier schedules, a new rb who surprised people with his quickness and hands, A defensive line who added Calais Campbell last season, they still had scrub receivers just a little worse now and a qb who plays bad—-they had all that last season, but because the Jaguars have scrub receivers and nobody to throw it to them, also film on every aspect of the team don’t act like you did any better when you were with the giants…….though, the fact that the qb was a manning meant he was good at some point in time, Bortles not so much. Jax, get receivers, an, and oline in draft. The defense is fine, they’re just out on the field too much.

  35. gisellichek says:
    November 27, 2018 at 11:00 am
    Tom Coughlin was gifted two super bowls against the Patriots, you live by the sword , you die by the sword. He insinuates he didn’t go the super bowl last season because of a quick whistle???, I say his team wasn’t good enough to beat the Pats in Foxboro.

    Whatever, who cares. The league has changed so much that if you don’t have a good offense to take advantage of the rules, you are not doing a good job as a GM. All of the teams going to playoffs are scoring alot of points. Defense is gone forever (for better or for worse).

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    I think you mean Mara and Goodell gifted it to the coahces and players with the insider cheating coming out of 345 PArk Ave.

    I always wondered why a 27th ranked D like the Giants could all of a sudden morph into the ’85 Bears out of the woodwork.

    But, since Goodell took over, it’s been proven he’s a lap dog for the NY owners and others.

    I could not believe the NY-induced influence goes back pre Goodell, though which is why the league allowed the tampering for Parcells by the JEts pre-Sb 31.

    Stunning. This stuff doesn’t happpen in any other league. Only in the NFL, as the greed and dollar signs rule all.

  36. “mistake-free football that Coughlin has always demanded”
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    What? MDS, When did that ever happen? Does a pile of missed playoff season with a good team equal “disciplined, “mistake free”?

    Does Eli’s 10 Billion interceptions equal “mistake free”?

    Disciplined? Odell gets on the Giants and takes the team over, outbursts, sideline meltdowns- does anybody else remember the Odell/Josh Norman Rumble with Coughlin looking clueless on the sideline? Infighting, Ramsey outburst, and now the blame game- Discipline, come on.

    Guy won two Superbowls- plenty of credit there, but mistake free and disciplined shouldn’t be mentioned with Coughlin, unless you mean last year when he took the ping pong table away from the Jags locker room.

  37. tylawspick6 says: “Pats were decimated last year on D and almost won a SB.”
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    Patriots LOST the SB because your D gave up 41 points and 500 yards to a backup quarterback. Maybe if your D wasn’t so knocked up, they might’ve kept it competitive and not wasted Brady’s performance – which was exactly his point…

  38. “I think you mean Mara and Goodell gifted it to the coahces (sic) and players with the insider cheating coming out of 345 PArk Ave.”

    Get help.

  39. Belichick outsmarted Coughlin, he allowed Blake Bum to have easy completions and success for 3 quarters of football in the AFCC game last year against the Patriots before shutting him down. Belichick must have known it was a contract year for Blake and set a trap for the Jaguars.

    Coughlin took the bait and extended Blake in the off-season based mainly on his performance against the Patriots in the AFCC game. Foolishly passing on QB in the draft. Now a team that looked poised to challenge the Patriots in the AFC is imploding. This is why Belichick plays chess while other GMs and front office people around the league are playing marbles.

  40. LOL, his season was all over when with 25 seconds to go against the Jets, winning by 13 points he went for and scored a td – then was stupid enough to go for 2 point conversion!! With 25 secs to go!! Whatever he gets he deserves for that show of sportsmanship!!!!

  41. ongogablogian says:
    November 27, 2018 at 10:48 am
    Flash1287
    Nov 27, 2018, 10:15 AM EST
    It’s called a FLUKE season. See the Eagles also.

    DUUUUUUVAL!!

    Let’s yell the name of are county.

    Morons
    _________________________________
    The irony is rich with this one. “Are” county

    Christ!!

    Good job, you pointed out the one typo.

  42. Coughlin lost his Giants teams multiple times as well. Thats how he got “retired.” They had a couple of Magic Carpet Rides over the years but that was it. Other than that they were a fairly pedestrian organization.

  43. Smh, this guy is complaining about a call? He got the ultimate gift in SB42 when his whole line was holding on the Eli to Tyre helmet play. His son in law had Seymour by the throat for crying out loud.

  44. Realistic Jags fan here. Last year was a perfect storm. No injuries and soft schedule. This year tough schedule and some injuries. Coughlin needs to look in the mirror. He fell prey to what every AGO East team has someone for the past 10 years. Draft to beat the Patriots not build a better team. No way he should have taken a d lineman in first round. Wouldn’t another offensive weapon or say an o lineman or qb look good right now.

  45. Well, they did play a last-place schedule last year. This year they are playing a first-place schedule. On top of that, they have Bortles who is terrible and injuries. Then the players are (still) making too many dumb mistakes. When Bortles throws it to the receiver, the receiver drops it. When the receiver is open, Bortles misses them. Fournette being out half the year didn’t help. Their OL flat-out STINKS and their best two OL are now out. They’ll probably be lucky to win another game this year.

  46. Flash1287,

    Amazing how insult the fine people of Duval county when you don’t know the grammatical (not spelling MORON) difference between “are” and “our”

  47. I like Coughlin but his comments are ridiculous. They seriously needed to address that offensive line and didn’t. I think the finger-pointing should start with that, which is Coughlin’s responsibility.

    …the Jaguars drafted defensive tackle Taven Bryan in the first round despite that being the Jaguars’ most talented position, and spent their second-, third- and four-round picks on players — receiver DJ Chark, safety Ronnie Harrison and offensive tackle Will Richardson, respectively — with an eye toward them making more of a contribution in 2019 rather than this season.

    All of those moves backfired.

    Bryan has been a disappointment, Chark has been mainly a special-teams player, Harrison has seen his playing time decrease the past several games, and Richardson never played a snap and ended up on IR after injuring his knee in practice.

    Yet another horrible draft by the Jags. No worries though, they’ll get a high draft pick again this year. Look forward to them drafting another DL since they traded away Fowler and think they need another one. They should draft a boatload of OL. In fact, aside from getting a QB they should use all of their picks on OL. Until they fix the offensive line and get a QB that can play, that offense is going nowhere.

  48. Why is it that coaches who have a bit of success prior to massive failure get a free pass from media and fans who only mildly follow the sport? You wish for a few examples of this? Coughlin, Gruden, Shanahan. Even Hall of Famer Parsells got a free pass in his final days with Dallas when the owner forced Tony Romo on him to take Bledsoe/Parcell disaster into a respectable playoff team.

    And then there is the poster coach of all–Mike Ditka who did turn around a poor Bear’s culture. But why did he get a free pass to the way he then turned around what should have been a dynasty into a lost decade? Why does no one remember when he went nuts on qb Harbaugh and Bears lost game/season despite that they led 22-7 in q4 after that Harbaugh pick 6? When Ditka told the media that Bears won’t win another game at 8-4, and they didn’t, did media hold him accountable? No, he was praised for his prediction ability.

    For those who follow the sport and league it really gets offensive the way that media and agents force on us all the fake news regarding coaches who are greatly accountable for their team’s lack of success and lack of discipline.

  49. This “we would have won except for the refs” attitude is for losers.

    Jax had every opportunity to win that game, but played too conservatively in the first half and sucked in the 4th quarter.

    Same nonsense you hear out of Pittsburgh who blame the refs for the loss last year vs NE even though they spit the bit covering Gronkowski all 4th quarter, then blew their chance at a chip shot tying field goal at the end by throwing the worst pass anyone has ever seen for the game ending INT (same exact play they ran in Denver, which of course had the same result).

  50. The number of Patriots-homers in this comment section is astounding. I’m used to seeing a few on Jags articles like tylaws because he has nothing better to do, but this is getting out of hand. It’s pathetic honestly. Are you all that bitter that you lost a game to the Jaguars this year before their season collapsed? Are you that angry that Tom Coughlin led a team to the superbowl and defeated your precious Tom Brady twice when it really mattered? If you have nothing better to do with your life than spew hatred on the internet, then perhaps it’s time to find a different hobby. You bandwagon hopping fans won’t remember this, but the Patriots used to be terrible. It will happen again. Let’s just hope when it does, you can act like civilized people. Because if this is what it’s like when things are going well for ya, I can only imagine what it’s like when it’s not.

  51. “All turnovers and touchdowns are automatically reviewed, 0 excuse to stop the play.”

    How do you know the official didn’t see something not visible on the replays?

    You can’t simply let plays go and assume replay will fix it because replay often doesn’t have a good angle. By letting a play go, that becomes the call that has to be disproven even though you really didn’t make a call at all. Not to mention the risk of injury by pointlessly letting plays continue.

    The officials have to call what they see. Period.

    In this particular play, Jacksonville should be happy they got possession at all. They absolutely shouldn’t be complaining about the lack of return.

  52. I read a more expansive article about this interview on another site and boy, if I were a Jags fan, I would be depressed. He talks about how running and play action passing is still the key to success and makes fun of of offenses like the Rams and Chiefs as being “college offenses”.

    Have in 1988, Jags fans.

  53. “Same nonsense you hear out of Pittsburgh who blame the refs for the loss last year vs NE even though they spit the bit covering Gronkowski all 4th quarter, then blew their chance at a chip shot tying field goal at the end by throwing the worst pass anyone has ever seen for the game ending INT (same exact play they ran in Denver, which of course had the same result).”

    They feel victim to a bad rule that may have been poorly interpreted. That’s a legitimate complaint. They beat them on that play, and what happened afterwards is irrelevant.

    As far as the Broncos go, sometimes teams get lucky. Officials missed an obvious foul on Roethlisberger’s first pick, leading to a Broncos touchdown. The Broncos also benefited from two fluke fumbles deep in their own territory. Nobody who watched that game would suggest the Broncos were the better team.

  54. Last place schedule vs. First place schedule, plus not replacing Bortles. This was almost predictable.

  55. Hahaha patriots fans crying about holding? New England holds every play, they have an understanding it will never be called against them if it would effect them negatively.

    Can’t even complete a 2 yard pass without an illegal pick.

    That’s the offense – hold and pick. When that doesn’t work Brady throws his hands up in the air with eyes watering and flags appear to extend the drive.

    It sure will be funny when Brady hangs em up and all these losers pretend they’ve been rams or chiefs fans all along.

  56. Bahaha just saw the post from the clown performing mental gymnastics trying to justify refs determining the outcome of the game to blow a play dead of a runner heading unimpeded to the end zone.

    As a turnover and touchdown it would be automatically reviewed.

    The only reason to stop it is to give the patriots and game they couldn’t win.

    Read what I said about intellectual honesty and stop contorting your brain and lying to yourself.

  57. Well, the Pats had that called AGAINST THEM in 2001 and went on to win a SB and form a dynasty so try again.
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    That play would have ended the game. A couple of kneel downs and game over.
    The play you’re talking about had no such repercussions. So try again.
    Why do Pats fans freak out when officiating is discussed? Guilty conscience perhaps?

  58. hbk314 says:
    November 27, 2018 at 1:23 pm

    As far as the Broncos go, sometimes teams get lucky. Officials missed an obvious foul on Roethlisberger’s first pick, leading to a Broncos touchdown. The Broncos also benefited from two fluke fumbles deep in their own territory. Nobody who watched that game would suggest the Broncos were the better team.
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    Sure. Got it. The Steelers were better, but lost by a fluke (or twenty flukes) in Denver. What about the week before? They got outplayed by Jax all game and pulled out a fluke win at the end. I’m guessing in your world they were better there too? All we’ve been hearing for years is how good the Steelers are and how they are on to the SB, and every year they face plant, blame the refs and complain about 10,000 imaginary unlucky breaks.

    They have NE at home, again, this year with a chance to earn a bye. Think they’ll come through this time?

  59. I didn’t read this as Coughlin complaining about the call, or blaming the refs. I took it as a comparison for how far they’ve fallen in 11 months and a recognition there’s work to do to get back there.

  60. terripet says:

    November 27, 2018 at 10:47 am

    Tom it’s hard to beat the cheaters at home when Kraft runs the league

    __________________________

    No, it’s hard to beat the Patriots or ANY team when you take your foot off of the gas pedal in the second half and just play not to lose.

  61. A whistle didn’t give them that game, it kept them in it. Lewis lost control of the ball then regained control of that football against his hip and was down before it came loose again. If Baldwin can secure a ball with his leg and Tyree can secure it with his helmet, Lewis can secure it to his hip. If it was a fumble, Pats should have another SB banner hanging in Gillette.

  62. Honestly there isn’t a single player on this team that I wouldn’t consider trading or cutting. That includes Ramsey and Fournette.

  63. r8rsfan says:

    November 27, 2018 at 1:53 pm
    That play would have ended the game. A couple of kneel downs and game over.
    The play you’re talking about had no such repercussions. So try again.
    Why do Pats fans freak out when officiating is discussed? Guilty conscience perhaps?

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    Repercussions after the play don’t matter, it was called correctly per the rule. Obviously it was a bad rule as they later altered it but it was the correct call. And the Raiders allowed the Pats to move the ball another 14yards that play and the snow kick was only to tie the game. Raiders had plenty of chances after the tuck rule to still win. Championship teams overcome tough situations and the ’01 Pats are a prime example.

  64. Now I can see why pft is so bad at picking spreads/overunders/winners.

    You guys really think the jaguars will fire there gm and headcoach that brought them to the playoffs for there only apperance this decade? After one down season?

    Common pft your better than that lol.

  65. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:

    November 27, 2018 at 11:44 am

    Belichick outsmarted Coughlin, he allowed Blake Bum to have easy completions and success for 3 quarters of football in the AFCC game last year against the Patriots before shutting him down. Belichick must have known it was a contract year for Blake and set a trap for the Jaguars.

    Coughlin took the bait and extended Blake in the off-season based mainly on his performance against the Patriots in the AFCC game. Foolishly passing on QB in the draft. Now a team that looked poised to challenge the Patriots in the AFC is imploding. This is why Belichick plays chess while other GMs and front office people around the league are playing marbles.

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    This makes zero sense. Why would BB want to play dead for 3 quarters in the AFC title game? And who exactly were the Jags going to replace Bortles with in the back end of the 2018 draft? And Bortles was pretty good last year, why would the Jags throw him away after making it to the AFC title game in the first place? This is almost as bad as your “Brady and ARodgers could be replaced with a high school QB” argument.

  66. Quick whistle? Games may seem to come down to one play, but they don’t. Jags had many chances to put that game away and did not.

    The Eagles did put the game away on the Patriots in the Super Bowl. That was the difference.

  67. davedsone says:
    November 27, 2018 at 3:34 pm
    Boohoo- The Pats were an offensive holding no call away from winning the SB in 2008

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    Would have been nice if Asante Samuel made that INT though.

  68. Patrick says:
    November 27, 2018 at 1:52 pm
    Bahaha just saw the post from the clown performing mental gymnastics trying to justify refs determining the outcome of the game to blow a play dead of a runner heading unimpeded to the end zone.

    As a turnover and touchdown it would be automatically reviewed.

    The only reason to stop it is to give the patriots and game they couldn’t win.

    Read what I said about intellectual honesty and stop contorting your brain and lying to yourself.

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    You need to read what I said.

    Clearly the official saw something that caused him to blow it dead. Replay was inconclusive. If he ignores what he saw and lets the play go, New England gets screwed because replay didn’t have the angle he had.

    The only way that letting these plays go could possibly work is if you go into replay without a call on the field. By letting the play go, you’re not making a call. Go into replay with a clean slate and make the call based on what you see. You can’t let the play go and then use that as the “call” on the field that has to be disproven.

    Until replay is fundamentally changed, you can’t just let plays go when you see something to blow it dead.

  69. It was sickening how much credit Coughlin received last year for the Jags. He overshadowed the head coach that already had the team together before he arrived. But now he receives no blame for the Jags this year. It is nice to be Tom Coughlin.

  70. “Since Tom Coughlin is the architect of this team”

    False assertion the team was in place before Tom arrived.

  71. Feeling your pain Gramps. We in Pats nation were a chokehold by Sean O’Hara of Richard Seymour from a perfect season and then we were way down. Uh, no actually, not so much. We went on to win two more Lombardis and have the best record since then, becoming repeat Team of the Decade. I guess it’s not the same…

  72. r8rsfan says:
    November 27, 2018 at 1:53 pm
    Well, the Pats had that called AGAINST THEM in 2001 and went on to win a SB and form a dynasty so try again.
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    That play would have ended the game.

    1. You don’t know that.
    2. Talk about people who can’t get over things.
    3. Since you brought up a 17 year old boo hoo, The Raiders went on to a SB in 76 on a bogus RTP call so, we’re even. And yes, Raiders went to another SB the next year and didn’t have the right stuff to win so, you gonna blame that on NE as well?

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