Packers assistant: Next coach should hold everyone to higher standard

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Some people think the Packers should hire a coach who will make the most of Aaron Rodgers.

Some people who happen to be Aaron Rodgers have a personal interest in the process.

But one current assistant coach thinks his potential next boss should make his authority clear. Packers linebackers coach and assistant head coach Winston Moss tweeted earlier what he thinks his employer should be looking for.

“Ponder this… what Championship teams have are great leadership! Period! It’s not the offensive guru trend, it’s not the safe trend. Find somebody that is going to hold #12 and everybody in this building to a #LombardiStandard! Period! #losingsucks!”

While putting himself out there so far might not be the way to impress the next boss, it’s interesting to hear a member of the current staff include Rodgers at the same plane as every other player.

It’s certainly unwise for any new coach to alienate the quarterback, but he’ll have to coach 52 other players as well when he arrives. And striking that balance might be the trickiest part of what should be a very attractive job.

42 responses to “Packers assistant: Next coach should hold everyone to higher standard

  1. He’s right. Who holds Rodgers accountable when he messes up? Rodgers doesn’t think twice about calling out his teammates, and there have been times when they’ve needed it. However, Rodgers isn’t without fault this season, and having a HC hold his feet to the fire would be best for the team, even if Rodgers ends up with a bruised ego.

  2. Never heard of this guy but I have now and I have a lot of respect for him for these comments. #12 makes a lot of money and is a pretty decent player but the whole notion of him having input in the coaching search is preposterous.

    What this team needs, really needs is Gregg Williams the Interim HC in Cleveland. Look at the turnaround there with real leadership once Hue was shown the door. Even the Cleveland players love Williams.

  3. Good for Winston!
    Rodgers needs to be taken down a peg and told the truth
    His arrogance and unwillingness to accept advice from the current coaching staff is one of the biggest reasons the Packers have won only FOUR games this year

  4. Moss is a old school baller. You can bet he speaks for the majority of the team. About time someone called the media favorite Rodgers out. Rodgers has been pointing the finger at others for too long now. When I hear media types call him a top 5 all time quarterback I just laugh. Rodgers is a selfish finger pointer who will never win another Super Bowl.

  5. So when is Winston going to be held to a higher standard?

    Been part of an underperforming defensive coaching staff for YEARS.

  6. “Find somebody that is going to hold #12 and everybody in this building to a #LombardiStandard! ”

    Sorry, Belichick is either continuing to coach the Pats or retiring, he’s not going to Green Bay

    Lolz

  7. “His arrogance and unwillingness to take advice from the current coaching staff is one of the biggest reasons the Packers have won only FOUR games this season”.
    ___________

    This is pure, unadulterated speculation. No one, absolutely no one, has any factual information that AR has been arrogant or unwilling to work with MM and the staff. No evidence exists that AR has been anything other than a consummate professional.

  8. Find somebody that is going to hold #12 and everybody in this building to a #LombardiStandard! Period!
    ——
    Once Rodgers finds out Moss said this Rodgers will have him fired. Holding Rodgers to the same standard as every other of his teammates? Please, no way Rodgers would accept that.

  9. Somebody finally had the balls to call out Rodgers. And many Packer fans are ripping him for it. How many losses does it take to call out your $33 mil QB for not doing his job? (Of note to Packer fans: this comment in no way has anything to do with the Vikings. Answering with an insult to the Vikings does not address your teams problems).

  10. “What this team needs, really needs is Gregg Williams the Interim HC at Cleveland…Even the Cleveland players love Williams”.
    _________________

    Thanks for the extraneous information, like everyone here doesn’t already know that Williams is Cleveland’s interim head coach. And how do you know that the Cleveland players love Williams? How many Browns players have you communicated with?

  11. stellarperformance says:

    December 4, 2018 at 2:58 pm

    See ya Winslow.
    ====================================

    So in essence what you and your fellow meathead Packers fans are saying is you don’t want your team, including your QB held to a championship standard? Gotcha.

    Good to know. WHat you fail to understand is that it wasn’t a dig at your precious Rodgers. It was including him and everyone down to the last guy on the 53.

    You guys sure aren’t the sharpest tools in the shed. I expect it from you redundant, but it’s surprising from some of you others.

  12. conormacleod says:
    December 4, 2018 at 3:23 pm

    (Of note to Packer fans: this comment in no way has anything to do with the Vikings.

    +++++

    And yet here you are, with your bretheren, repeating the same mantra about Rodgers you guys have said on at least a dozen threads this season.

    I’m unsure how that addresses the Vikings problems. But it’s easy to see how it assuages your fanbase’ insecurity.

  13. “(Of note to Packer fans: this comment in no way has anything to do with the Vikings. Answering with an insult to the Vikings does not address your teams problems)”
    _______________

    It does when you are in no way anything other than a Vikings troll. Maybe you should address the dysfunction between Zimmer and DeFilippo.

  14. Winston Moss was McCarthy’s voice on defense. He played for many years as a linebacker and has had no problem getting in the face of his players when they make a mistake. Winston is making it clear that he believes everyone needs to be coached up and held accountable. Its going to take more than a new face and scheme to fix what’s wrong in GB.

  15. When quality players would leave the Packers via free agency, I always thought the packer organization was too cheap to sign them. But now I’m starting to wonder if they were happy to leave. Quality players want to be held accountable and they want those around them to be held accountable as well. This is the first time I’ve heard concrete evidence that this is not the case. But this won’t make free agents and quality players to want to be on your team. I said it in an earlier post about Rodgers. Be careful what you wish for.

  16. conormacleod says:
    December 4, 2018 at 3:23 pm
    (Of note to Packer fans: this comment in no way has anything to do with the Vikings. Answering with an insult to the Vikings does not address your teams problems)

    —————————-

    (Of note to Viking fans: this article in no way has anything to do with the Vikings. Answering with an insult to the Packers does not address your teams problems)

  17. It seems some of the fans of the green and yellow are a little sensitive when they read/hear the truth from their own coaching staff.

    Moss should be seriously considered for the HC opening for having the intestinal fortitude to speak the truth.

    Probably won’t happen based on the “stockholders” comments here on PFT.

    But it should.

  18. ragnarthegreat says:
    December 4, 2018 at 3:45 pm
    When quality players would leave the Packers via free agency, I always thought the packer organization was too cheap to sign them. But now I’m starting to wonder if they were happy to leave
    ___________________________

    What players have left that would put GB over the top? Micah Hyde and JC Tretter wanted more playing time, Sitton and Lang were aging and injured.

  19. I don’t see concrete proof Winston himself posted this(If you know Winston he doesn’t come off as a big say it on twitter guy) BUT let’s say he DID.

    He would be saying everyone should be held to a “Lombardi standard” including #12.

    Ok, so where is he cutting on anyone? He wants the whole franchise held to a very high standard including himself, all players, coaches, staff, management.

    Adding 12 in there just means he wants it known he is including everyone because those who have no clue outside of Wisconsin like to try and create a false narrative that Aaron only cares about himself and not the team. Includes him because haters would say “Oh everyone but Aaron right?” I could send you video of Aaron saying similar things over the years and recently.

    #100Seasons

    #TitleTown

    #GoPackGo!🧀

  20. According to the former Packers tight end, it’s the players’ fault, because they gave up on their coach.

    “That team quit. They quit. They didn’t even want to play today,” Chmura said, via WTMJ.com. “This was, as long as I can remember, the most embarrassing loss the Packers have had since I’ve been a part of the organization and followed them.”

  21. I’m sorry, huge packer fan here. He’s right. McCarthy did not over throw/ under throw anybody this year. It was time for McCarthy to go, but to blame him alone and think this is the complete solution is ignorant. I root for the Packers, always have, always will.

  22. It seems some of the fans of the green and yellow are a little sensitive when they read/hear the truth from their own coaching staff.
    ——
    Where are all these fans you trolls keep mentioning? Seems everyone here, including myself, think Moss is dead on. Sad that y’all feel the need to create drama even when there is none.

  23. pkrlvr says:

    Where are all these fans you trolls keep mentioning? Seems everyone here, including myself, think Moss is dead on.
    ###

    Oh, maybe you missed a few…

    cardinealsfan20 says:

    When did Coach Moss join the hordes of Vikings trolls?

    And…

    stellarperformance says:

    See ya Winslow.

    Failure to read and comprehend can be a problem.

  24. It’s not surprising Moss is upset; his ride on the gravy train is ending in Green Bay. He was clearly McCarthy’s BFF. While other assistants were jettisoned left and right, McCarthy kept Moss around for reasons unknown, doing (supposedly) a job that no one really seemed to be able to pinpoint. Maybe he has incriminating photos of MM. That makes as much sense as anything. Or maybe MM just liked Moss constantly telling him he was always right. Whatever. He won’t be missed since he never really did anything.

  25. “That team quit. They quit. They didn’t even want to play today,” Chmura said, via WTMJ.com. “This was, as long as I can remember, the most embarrassing loss the Packers have had since I’ve been a part of the organization and followed them.”

    The existential question from this anecdote becomes is this a roster of garbage or is this a roster of a team that quit on its coaches two years in a row?

    I have thought all along that it is a roster of garbage but after hearing this I don’t know, it could also just be a roster of quitters.

  26. I don’t understand any of this, I read many articles here this year that said GB is going to the Stupor Bowl
    Maybe the owner is getting free tickets for Aaron and the boys. Inquiring minds wonder if they will be going in separate cars.

  27. During an interview with ESPN Wisconsin on Sunday, Chmura said the entire situation makes Rodgers look like a “prima donna.”

    “Aaron’s not going to come out of this looking good. Aaron might be happy, but Aaron, to me, looks like the prima donna basketball player in the NBA that wants his coach fired,” Chmura said, via USA Today’s FTW.

  28. During an interview with ESPN Wisconsin on Sunday, Chmura said the entire situation makes Rodgers look like a “prima donna.” by John Breech

    “Aaron’s not going to come out of this looking good. Aaron might be happy, but Aaron, to me, looks like the prima donna basketball player in the NBA that wants his coach fired,” Chmura said, via USA Today’s FTW.

  29. packertruth says:
    December 4, 2018 at 3:35 pm
    conormacleod says:
    December 4, 2018 at 3:23 pm

    (Of note to Packer fans: this comment in no way has anything to do with the Vikings.

    +++++

    And yet here you are,
    ////////////
    Even when they’re told directly, they can’t help themselves. Oh wait, I get it. Nobody is allowed to comment on the Packers, on an article that is about the Packers. Is that it? One of you clowns even said you doubt that Winston Moss even posted this. And then you try and fool yourselves into believing he wasn’t calling out McCarthy and #12. He was. And he was right. Packer fans should be screaming that things need to change, starting with Rodgers. But nope. He won a SB 9 years ago, so he couldn’t possibly be playing bad or going through the motions this year.

  30. conormacleod says:
    December 4, 2018 at 6:05 pm

    Packer fans should be screaming that things need to change, starting with Rodgers. But nope. He won a SB 9 years ago, so he couldn’t possibly be playing bad or going through the motions this year.

    ++++

    Zimmer’s had nearly five years now and his chances of winning even a second playoff game (much less Super Bowl) isn’t looking very good. Maybe you should start limbering up those vocal cords?

  31. gtodriver says:
    December 4, 2018 at 4:49 pm
    pkrlvr says:

    Oh, maybe you missed a few…

    cardinealsfan20 says:

    When did Coach Moss join the hordes of Vikings trolls?

    And…

    stellarperformance says:

    See ya Winslow.

    Failure to read and comprehend can be a problem.
    ___________________

    Someone named Cardinals fan… likely isn’t Packers fan… and Moss likely Is gone after this year…. so it probably is time to say bye to him. Unless the new coach keeps him around, which isn’t likely as he wants to bring in his own staff, or maybe Moss will finally get a head coaching job… he gets interviewed for a lot, its almost as if teams are just doing that to please the Rooney Rule.

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