Bobby Wagner blocked kick should have been flagged: “I made the play. They called what they called”

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Monday nights in Seattle seem to be a magnet for officiating controversies.

The Fail Mary game is 2012 against Green Bay, K.J. Wright‘s illegal batting of a ball out of the end zone against Detroit in 2015, Richard Sherman‘s non-roughing the kicker against Buffalo in 2016 and Bobby Wagner‘s illegal leap to block a field goal try against Minnesota in 2018 all have come on Monday night.

And yes, Wagner’s blocked field goal against the Vikings was an illegal play.

With the Seahawks holding a 6-0 lead with 5:46 left to play, Wagner leaped over Vikings linemen Danny Isidora and Rashod Hill to block the 47-yard field goal try. While Wagner’s block was legal in that he leaped from the line of scrimmage without a running start from the second level, the fact that he placed his hands on the shoulders of linemen Shamar Stephen and Jarran Reed to help aid his leverage to clear the line was not.

The rule book states the following aspect as being illegal: “Placing a hand or hands on a teammate or opponent to gain additional height to block or attempt to block an opponent’s kick or apparent kick, or in an attempt to jump through a gap to block an opponent’s kick or apparent kick.” NBC rules analyst and former head referee Terry McAulay said the play was an illegal one as well.

Wagner made it clear they knew you could leap over the line from a spot on the defensive line of scrimmage.

“We know the rule change where you can’t run and block the field goal, but if you start on the line you can go and block the field goal,” Wagner said. “If they were ever on the right hash, we were going to call it. It just so happened to be in the fourth quarter around five minutes (to play) that they were on the right hash. You can’t jump over the center but if you got hops you can make it over anybody.”

As far as whether he leveraged himself off his teammates in order to clear the line, Wagner said it’s not on him to make that call.

“That’s really up for them (the officials) to decide. It’s not really on me,” he said. “Even last time when I jumped over last time they said it was legal. But I think not a lot of people are aware of the rules and aware of the changes. So there’s a loop-hole in there where if you start on the line you can jump over. I’m not stressing about that. I made the play. They called what they called. There’s times in games where things happen all the time so I’m not stressing on it. It was a big block. We’re going to definitely take it and it was amazing.”

Vikings head coach Mike Zimmer said he wasn’t sure what happened on the kick.

“I don’t know,” he said. “They didn’t tell me. I just asked if I could challenge and they said no.

“Quite honestly, I didn’t see it. I didn’t see what happened. I was told what happened, but I don’t know. You’re not supposed to be able to pull guys down if that’s what they did.”

The penalty would have been a 15-yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty, which would have given the Vikings a first down at Seattle’s 14 1/2-yard line with half the distance to the goal enforced. Instead, Russell Wilson scrambled for 40 yards two plays later and Chris Carson scored on a 2-yard carry to push the Seahawks’ lead to 14-0 with three minutes to play.

A flag was thrown initially by the umpire as it appeared he believed the jump over the line came from depth, which would have been illegal as well. However, head referee Brad Allen said it was a legal jump over due to it coming from the line of scrimmage. The leveraging by Wagner on the play was the aspect seemingly missed.

Wagner had previously jumped over the center to block a Chandler Catanzaro kick against the Arizona Cardinals in 2016. Though that maneuver would be illegal today, he cleanly hurdled the long snap to make that block.

Wagner said they practiced this specific block play four times in practice this week and his legs didn’t have quite as much life in them when he was called upon 55 minutes into Monday night’s contest.

“You didn’t expect to get that many plays before you try to jump over the pile so when I did it in practice I was pretty fresh,” Wagner said. “But in the fourth quarter with five minutes left after all the games we’ve played I was just making sure I got over and didn’t fall because I’m pretty sure you guys would have caught it.”

119 responses to “Bobby Wagner blocked kick should have been flagged: “I made the play. They called what they called”

  1. Seattle homer but I get why people are angry about that play. I don’t have much sympathy though, as Seattle has been jobbed famously over the years, and I’m enjoying seeing them get those crazy bad calls now and then in recent seasons. Sorry Vikings fans, but not too sorry

  2. Two takeaways. One, the refs don’t even know the rules, especially during Monday Night Football games involving the Seahawks. So they didn’t even KNOW it was illegal to do what Wagner did, they were only worried he jumped from further back.

    Two. Seems suspicious that one team consistently is on the right end of horrible, game-changing calls against a myriad of teams. One that is/was owned by the guy that supplies them with their sideline Microsoft Surface Tablets.

    Back judge was horrible too. Almost as bad as Cousins. Called DPI on ticky tack Rhodes DPI when ball was 10 yards overhead and side judge was RIGHTTHERE and he was 40 yards away. Then next series a 48 yard pass to Diggs, the DB is hugging him prior to ball arriving, yet Diggs somehow still caught. Flag? Nope.

    Still, Zimmer needs to shut up and let DeFlippo do his job. Zim wants to run run run when the entire league is set up to pass. And your best players are wide receivers. And pick plays are now legal. And QBs can’t be touched. The OC that destroyed your team in the NFCG was hired to do that to other teams. Not bring back 3 yards and a cloud of dust.

  3. And it goes down as yet another Hawks victory! The Seahawk Dynasty rolls on and the team NOONE wants to play in the postseason is there. Another Lombardi heading to Sea-town and the Pete Carroll dynasty!

  4. For all the upset Vikings fans…just imagine if this happened on a play that would seal a win. Like a roughing the passer call on a game clinching interception.
    And imagine, as if to rub salt in the wound, the league got together and said, you know what, I know we told you to interpret the rules that way, but don’t. That was really stupid. Let’s just act like this never happened.
    This was no Fail Mary.
    You probably would have been lucky to get three points out of it.

  5. as bad as the Vikings offense played, the Vikings had a very good chance to win and it was taken away by the refs. That clearly was a foul and the ref that threw the flag knew it. That’s why he threw the flag. There was no evidence anywhere to concluded that it wasn’t a foul. Think about it, the Vikings should have had a first down at the 15 trailing 6-0. GAME CHANGING BAD CALL BY REFS. AGAIN!!! When is gonna stop?

  6. Wouldn’t have mattered. Vikings offense is too inept, and would’ve lost that game regardless. It’s a shame when a team loses, folks want to write that it’s the refs fault.

  7. 40 billion dollar conflict of interest. NFL and Microsoft. Either that or the refs are making up for defeating Seattle in Super Bowl XL every game every call since.

  8. It’s over and done with but calls like that change games and seasons. Both teams needed that win for playoff positioning, that was a huge game in the NFC. Games like that can costs jobs of coaches.

    If the call is made. Maybe Minny goes for it 4th & 1. Moves the chains and takes the lead or making it a 6-3 game. With plenty of time left. Instead we know what happened.

    I’m a 9ER fan but, it’s not hating if it’s facts as its described above. It doesn’t even mention the NFC championship game when the 9ERS had multiple bad calls go against them and that “Fail Mary” game was a factor in giving Seattle home field advantage in the playoff vs SF that season.

    I hate the Seahawks but if they got robbed I’d say they got robbed. It’s not to the same extent but, even I know they got robbed in the “tuck rule” game and I say that knowing I hate the Raiders.

    Seriously. I’m not sure if it’s the pressure of the fans in Seattle with the crowdnoisr but, In primetime games. No other team gets more “home cooking” calls then the Seahawks.

  9. I was more upset with the pass interference call when Xavier Rhodes had perfect coverage and Russell Wilson threw the ball out of bounds.

  10. I would understand if there was no flag thrown and it was just missed. However a flag was thrown so there was time to discuss it and get it right… they still got it wrong.

  11. They got the call right and threw a flag, but the game was in Seattle and we all know how games are there. 12th man usually wears zebra stripes.

  12. Uncatchable, out of bounds, pass interference call as well.

    Game decided by refs. Seattle given the win. Seattle gets lucky with the refs like bookies who pay big money can only dream.

  13. Alright, well this article & $1.99 will get me a soda at the cafe. They seem to have reviews on everything else, why not drag plays like this one into the mix.
    Granted this wouldn’t be necessary if the Zebras knew how to do their &^%$ jobs!

  14. Huge swing with the no call. Don’t care as a fan of either team but they need to get this stuff right.

  15. Seahawks do seem to get some interesting calls on Monday night over the years. This one is not up to the par of the Fail Mary or the batted ball as he placed his hands on his DLinemen for balance, not leverage.
    Didn’t matter, Minnesota wasn’t going to score, even with the penalty. Seahawks knew all their formations and plays. Bobby W is also the best MLB in the NFL today. He’s a true one-man gang right now.

  16. Many people say that one bad ref call does not change the outcome of a game. I really disagree. I am not a Vikings fan but they got cheated badly. The penalty that was not called changed the fate of the game. it was over because of that call. if Minn makes the FG or gets the penalty it is a totally different game. But we will never know will we? Game after game the refs are determining the outcome of games. That is not the way it is supposed to be in sports. I feel really bad for the Vikings and any other team that gets hosed by a clearly wrong call. Why in the world could they not review that play? it was clear that the player used leverage, which is a penalty. Look at it and get it right for the integrity of the game!

  17. So basically what I am reading can we find refs who aren’t scared to make a call in Seattle in Prime time games. Don’t forget about when they batted the ball out of the end zone vs Detroit. Mine as well raise a 13 flag before every prime time game in Seattle.

  18. “But I think not a lot of people are aware of the rules and aware of the changes”.
    ————————————–
    You would hope that the refs ARE aware of the rules and ARE also aware of the changes, but not in today’s NFL it seems.

  19. Lol at thinking Wagner used the guys as leverage. The refs didn’t think it helped him through the gap or added height to his leap. You can’t call leverage if the player who jumped the line didn’t use anyone to aid the block.

  20. Wouldn’t have mattered if they had called the penalty or not. DeFilippo and Cousins were absolutely wretched last night. Flip has gotten worse with his schemes and play calling as the season has progressed. Cousins could not find an open receiver if the dude was wearing flashing neon. The offense has had not rhythm all season.

  21. Terrible week for officiating. Two of the biggest games this week the refs blew terribly. Between Eagles/Dallas and MIN/Seattle – The refs dropped the ball. They have also been very quiet on explaining why they made these calls. I would LOVE to hear their thinking.

  22. I am a Packers fan and the Vikings got robbed on that call and it was potentially game changing. How officials continue to bungle things week after week is stunning. This article makes it sound like they don’t know the rules. I still cannot believe a league like the nfl cannot get competent full time officiating. Really stinks to see these things happen when they are so game altering.

  23. Vikings offense, especially Cousins, did not play well. However, they finally started getting things going when Refs stole this game from the Vikings. This was the most aggregious but not the only call that went Seattle’s way. PI called against Vikings Rhodes by the game 20 yards away but not the official 5 yards away to give Seahawks their 2nd field goal. Then not calling it on Diggs deep ball catch.

  24. There were much worse officiated games this week, Cowboys/Eagles for instance. The call was missed, sure. At the rate Cousins was playing, it wouldn’t have changed the outcome of the game. Overall, it would be nice to see competent refs more consistently.

  25. It was questionable if Wagner used his hands for leverage or just merely trying to get thru the blockers so it was a good call. It was hardly the reason the Vikings lost last night although we are sure to have the Viking fans posting it was 100% on the refs, as if $84 million can be that easily overlooked.

  26. 2018 may go down as the year of the missed call. Hasn’t been a week this season when there haven’t been blatant missed or blown officiating calls.

  27. The Vikings are allowed to score? Then this not dealing with this. The 84 million dollar man isn’t what he seemed period! You can blame the offensive line,RB’s or play calling, But Cousins isn’t getting it done period! The Vikes are still in the hunt!! SKIL VIKINGS!!

  28. Do lineman stare at the ground on kicking plays? Are they not aware of those who “got hops” and can clear the line? Center and the guards need to raise up and catch the hopper’s foot, and flip him. Penalty on the leader for making contact!

  29. Probably was leverage. But they didn’t lose by 3. Or 7. Or 8. Yeah it is possible to say “what if” but if you look at who has been playing better football over the last several weeks…I still see the Seahawks winning. I think the Vikings came into the season very overrated. They shouldn’t have made it to the NFCCG last year. SKOL!

  30. That was such a blatant missed call. Almost like they were paid off. Pete Morelli is proud. NFL Refs are more corrupt than the NBA. The journalist who exposes this will be a hero to all but organized gambling. New Orleans got a Super Bowl win paying off the refs. All teams should do it. Write the check Ziggy because your awful team isn’t getting it done not cheating.

  31. 6-0 game and first and ten inside the red zone in late fourth quarter. Blink of eye the score was 21-0. I would say the officials’ blundering was a direct factor in determining the winner of last night’s game. FWIW, I won with Seattle, still not comfortable with the epidemic of horrible officiating.

  32. And then there was the bizarre screw up in first half when they were so confused that they penalized the 65 of the defense when only the offense had a 65. Then replay noted it was not 65, but actually 66 that was penalized, the same replay noting that what 66 was penalized for was for getting smacked in the face by two separate players on the other team after the whistle. So instead of a 51 yard field goal attempt by Janikowski, one he might have made or missed, one that might have opened up a real dull game, we got to see a pooch punt downed at the 10 yard line. Why is it that the NFL seems to have suddenly sabotaged their product with officiating that gets shamed by every replay?

  33. Officiating has been universally terrible all year. They’ve had several major impacts on crucial games. This is with replay too. It’s incredible how inept they are.

  34. By the way, look very carefully at the late second half 40 yd td pass by Seattle. Yes, I said that right–it was a td. Everyone got obsessed with the THIRD FOOT landing out of bounds. A freeze frame review would have determined that as the ball was possessed the foot ruled out of bounds actually still had the slightest of shoe in contact with the ground. Could not be challenged, was in last two minutes of half–and yet NY NEVER even looked at the play??? Ooops.

  35. “I just asked if I could challenge and they said no.”

    So wait….this guy is a head coach and he doesn’t even know what plays he can challenge or not?

  36. The refs didn’t know the rule and its indefensible that they didnt.
    Its pathetic performances like this by the officials game after game after game year after year after year that taint the integrity of the NFL.

  37. It was obvious. You could have also called holding on either one of the lineman as they both pulled the offensive lineman down.
    The worst of it was that it was a blatantly scripted play, so either Wagner and the ST Coordinator don’t know the rules or they did it hoping it wouldn’t get caught.

  38. It was a great play even if he touched his lineman. It doesn’t look like he used them for any real leverage as you don’t see the force on their shoulder, he looked to just balance himself. He can’t do anything about a missed call and it wouldn’t have made a difference in the end. Cousins wasn’t going anywhere on that d.

  39. The Vikings didn’t play well enough to win….but plenty of games are won by the team who didn’t play better.

    That non-call was huge. 1st & goal at the 14 with 5 minutes to go and only down by 6??? They could have scored and the had the defense who was playing well shut them down.

  40. Even the media is biased toward the Vikings now. That play was perfectly legal, anyone who thinks otherwise knows nothing about Football. Vikings fans are totally Unknowledgeable.

  41. When you play a team at home, you have to really beat them. Because you’re not going to get every call, not even some of the key ones. You got to go out there with the idea you’re going to whip their butts and then get it done. As a Vikings fan I hated this call or non-call, but really they didn’t play well enough to win, They didn’t play well enough to overcome home-field advantage, and they didn’t deserve this one.

  42. That’s because today’s football is just a blend of storylines, highly athletic kids, and muddied up rules. Fans don’t know the rules anymore and neither do the refs. No one knows what a pass interference penalty is, no one knows what an illegal contact is, no one knows what a roughing the passer is because it changes from game-to-game, quarter-to-quarter, and team-to-team.

  43. Not the reason the Vikes lost, but terrible non-call nonetheless. I saw it live from my couch. That should be replayable.

    Make leverage legal or call it correctly.

    Hanus.

  44. Are the officials intimidated by the Seattle crowd?…..I believe so and they seem to favor the so called big time teams and coaches…Dallas, New England come to mind. Heaven forbid the Lions…who were jobbed in two big games and guess where?…Dallas and Seattle.

  45. Actually, he was already at the high point of his jump when his hands made contact. He touched their shoulders, but did not ‘use them for leverage’ at all. He violated the letter of the law, but not the intent…..

  46. Vegas has been much more actively involved in games this year, than years past. its quiet obvious. Vegas wanted the Cheifs to win on sunday, that was painfully obvious, they wanted the Seahawks to win last night which was also painfully obvious.

  47. That’s not why the Vikings lost.
    Seattle is the better team.
    Stop with all the whining, it’s unmanly.

  48. Are we actually saying that the refs disagreed on the reason the flag was tossed, and never reviewed whether Wagner used his hands to spring up off his linemen. Nice use of all that training and rulebook study. Could the head guy been intimidated by the crowd?

  49. Seattle seems to get a lot of questionable calls in their favor every time I watch them play. Most of them being in key moments in the game. It just can’t be a coincidence at this point.

  50. This was a BAD non call. They picked up a flag, which makes it look worse.
    It may have cost the Vikings the game but it’s not like it will make a difference whether the go to the Super Bowl or not.

  51. I could see the referees actually missing the penalty. But, they didn’t! They threw the flag! That’s the part that gets me so angry. They saw the penalty, threw a flag, and then had to huddle to decide to pick up the flag. To me, that’s twice as bad of a mistake. “Judgment call”. Unless, you review your own judgement and say; “nah, let’s just ignore what I just saw”.

    Many will say it doesn’t matter, the Vikings offense was horrible, they didn’t deserve to win. None of those opinions matter. What matters is the game was 6-0, and the fact is, the Vikings would have had the ball at the 14 yard line, 1st and 10. Then, the game plays out however it plays out.

  52. johnnytarr says:
    December 11, 2018 at 9:31 am
    it’s not like it will make a difference whether the go to the Super Bowl or not.
    //////////
    That’s just an opinion, and the opinion does not matter. The play matters. If a 0-15 team lost because the officials gave the game to the other team, would it matter? Of course it would. Right calls always matter. And the officials blew this one, badly.

  53. The Keener Observer says:
    December 11, 2018 at 9:17 am
    That’s not why the Vikings lost.
    ///////////
    Down 6-0. First and 10 at the 14 yard line for Vikings (if the flag not picked up).

    But hey everybody, this clown here just knows the Vikings would not have gone up 7-6! He knows that this missed penalty isn’t the reason the Vikings lost. So let’s just ignore a horrible call by the referees, because he knows what the future would have held. We aren’t talking about who deserved what, or who played better (opinion). The Vikings defense played great after being out there all day. Gave the team a chance to win. The refs decided the players would not decide that, they would.

  54. cheeseisfattening says:
    December 11, 2018 at 9:17 am
    That’s a down right shame but you can’t depend on getting every call.
    ////////////
    They threw the flag. I 100% believe that when the refs see a penalty, and they throw the flag, then you absolutely can count on the refs actually penalizing what they saw and threw a flag on. 5 minutes to go. Down 6-0. Would have been 1st and 10 at the 14 yard line. Oh, it matters.

  55. “kidderjeffrey says:
    December 11, 2018 at 9:07 am
    Actually, he was already at the high point of his jump when his hands made contact. He touched their shoulders, but did not ‘use them for leverage’ at all. He violated the letter of the law, but not the intent…..”

    Ok then, throw the flag for holding on the line. Both lineman held the Vikings lineman down, which is illegal.
    Or just call it as it is, which is he used the backs of his lineman to leverage over the line. If you are going to jump, you can’t put your hands on the backs of other players.

  56. I couldn’t have cared less who won last night. However, the officiating has been , on the whole, atrocious this year. I’m not taking about PI calls, holding, etc. Those calls have always been controversial or bang-bang plays that, at many times, us as fans see what we want to see. I’m talking about pre-snap, and like last night, they saw they player use leverage, and picked the flag up using a lamebrain reason.

    From another site: “When comparing roles within the NFL ranks, the average referee ($550,000) makes nearly three times the salary of average officials as a whole ($188,322). “.

    They should know the rule book.

  57. jmitch67 says:
    December 11, 2018 at 9:55 am
    reread the rule he did not gain additional height from the contact he gained stability.

    ——–
    Good idea, here you go:

    Under NFL rules, it is illegal to place “a hand or hands on a teammate or opponent to gain additional height to block or attempt to block an opponent’s kick or apparent kick, or in an attempt to jump through a gap to block an opponent’s kick or apparent kick.”

  58. Seahawk fan here but in the course of the game there were so many bad calls both ways, the refs where just bad tonight. You like to think in the end all the bad calls balance out but I have to admit they missed it on that call. 2 real bad calls against Seattle – Wagner sack when Cousins was going down in a ball and Wagner hand was on his helmet he gets flagged !!! Another bad call was the unsportsman call against Idfedi when he was even near the incident but the ref says #65 Minn but no 65 on the field for Minn so it lets reverse it and call it 65 Seattle. Both those calls kept Minn so drives alive. So you see it goes both way throughout the game.

  59. Under NFL rules, it is illegal to place “a hand or hands on a teammate or opponent to gain additional height to block or attempt to block an opponent’s kick or apparent kick, or in an attempt to jump through a gap to block an opponent’s kick or apparent kick.”
    =====

    His momentum was carrying him downward after hurdling the line.

    He did not propel himself off of his teammates.

    He gained no competitive advantage here.

  60. jmitch67 says:
    December 11, 2018 at 9:55 am
    reread the rule he did not gain additional height from the contact he gained stability.

    ———————

    I am not a fan of either team but IMO actually he looked like he very much did. Take off your homer-glasses and go and re-watch the replay

  61. Wagner definitely launched himself and used leverage. Officials had it right and then picked up the flag. With the score where it was at the time, that blown call changed the whole outcome of the game, even though the Vikings were pretty bad for most of the night.

  62. faithful49er707 says:

    If the call is made. Maybe Minny goes for it 4th & 1. Moves the chains and takes the lead or making it a 6-3 game. With plenty of time left. Instead we know what happened.
    ###

    If the call is made, it’s 1st and 10 at the 14 and a half yard line.

    Momentum had switched from Seattle to Minnesota at that time. The Vikings were dominating play in the 4th quarter. This call swung the momentum back to Seattle.

    Seattle was 3 and out on their previous possession prior to that call. With 5:38 left, the Vikings could have milked another minute or two off the clock before scoring.

    With the momentum turned in favor of the Vikings, another 3 and out would have had the Vikings in the victory formation running out the clock.

    Final score… 7 – 6.

    But the call was incorrectly reversed by the head official, the momentum changed, and an extremely close game for 55 minutes turned on a dime in the last 5 minutes.

    Sucks.

    On to the next game against Miami.

  63. This is not Wagner’s fault… the refs should know the rules but funny how all the above plays happen and the 12’s turn their face but a missed mistake on them and it’s a conspiracy…. dynasty is long gone…

  64. If that is the rule then the Vikings got screwed – which is great> But I think that it is another dumb rule. Yes he put his hands on the other players but not to gain leverage and height but more to guide himself between the two players – is this not football. But the fact that the Vikings got screwed by the ref wasnt as bad as the way that the Packers got screwed by the ref when the game winning pick 6 was called back. The officiating has been brutal this year and even when you challenge the calls that by consensus ( of the announcers and exofficials) should be overturned are not. This has turned into WWF as far as rule application is concerned.

  65. aarons444 says:
    December 11, 2018 at 10:31 am
    Under NFL rules, it is illegal to place “a hand or hands on a teammate or opponent to gain additional height to block or attempt to block an opponent’s kick or apparent kick, or in an attempt to jump through a gap to block an opponent’s kick or apparent kick.”
    =====

    His momentum was carrying him downward after hurdling the line.

    He did not propel himself off of his teammates.

    He gained no competitive advantage here.
    ###

    The wording in the rule book is NEW this year and is clear.

    The new wording states, “May not place a hand or hands on a teammate or opponent in an attempt to jump through a gap to block an opponent’s kick or apparent kick.”

    There is nothing about “gaining additional height” in the rule anymore. The mere placing of a hand or hands on any player is a penalty.

    But even under the old rule…

    If he didn’t need to maintain or elevate himself to hurdle the line, why did he place his hands on his teammates and put his effort in jeopardy.

  66. We are all taught to play through bad calls as young athletes. I’m a Seattle fan and those were terrible calls, but the Vikings completely fell apart after that block. They’re as much at fault for not doing more to overcome adversity as the officials are for blowing those calls.

  67. If the rule is, you can’t touch a teammate, so be it. Throw the flag.

    But Wags didn’t launch or propel himself off his teammates. Talk that he did is asinine.

  68. It’s delicious to see some of my favorite posters complaining with crocodile tears about a refs call potentially costing them a game (when their team played like hot garbage, to boot). Just delicious.

  69. If he didn’t need to maintain or elevate himself to hurdle the line, why did he place his hands on his teammates and put his effort in jeopardy.
    ======

    Momentum, plain and simple.

    Same reason you’d brace yourself as you tripped and fell.

  70. It is truly amazing how people can read the rule, and still argue that a penalty should not have been called. What part of putting his hands on his own players to leverage himself, or help himself through the gap, is legal? There was nothing subjective about the play. Like I said before, fans see what they want to see.

  71. Vikings offense did not have a good game but had the call stood Vikings would of had a first down on the 14 in a 6-0 game. Refs were absolutely terrible last night. The block changed momentum of the game and gave the Hawks great field position to go down and score the game clinching TD.

  72. Under NFL rules, it is illegal to place “a hand or hands on a teammate or opponent to GAIN ADDITIONAL HEIGHT to block or attempt to block an opponent’s kick or apparent kick, or IN A ATTEMPT TO JUMP THROUGH A GAP to block a kick or apparent kick.”

    Wagner didn’t gain anything other than stabilityfrom resting his hands on those players.bLeverage would imply he used those two players as a boost and that’s not what happened.

  73. Wagner and Hawks getting too much credit for stupidity. Let a bad kicker try and kick a 48 yard field goal, for crying out loud. It would have still meant Hawks ahead 6-3 and very strong favorite to close game out in which their defense absolutely dominated the Vikings offense. And this is IF he hits field goal. As it was, Vikings should have had ball at 14 yard line and td could win game. What a stupid time to try and cheat while hoping the refs miss it!

  74. “That non-call was huge. 1st & goal at the 14 with 5 minutes to go and only down by 6??? They could have scored and the had the defense who was playing well shut them down.”

    Where did you come up with first and goal? First and ten, yes. But first and goal?

  75. hibcid16 says:
    December 11, 2018 at 3:47 am
    Penalty or not(lol), it was just a great play by a great player.

    ***********************************

    So, if a CB gets a 3 sec head start, crosses the LOS, and crushes the QB before he gets a step behind the C, you’re ok with that because it’s someone making a great play?

    The point here is that everyone is saying that it was a penalty, including the NFL, but the correct calls never seem to be made in Seattle and we wonder why?

  76. Lots of comments and I am a Seahawk fan…YES – illegal and should have been called because he had his hands on his teammates to help him get through the gap.

    However – I do not believe in any conspiracy designed around small market Seattle getting preferential treatment on Monday Night Football to help…who? The NFL?

  77. If you’re not playing at the edge of being called for a penalty you’re not trying. DBs play on the edge of getting called for PI and try to get away with it. The o-line plays on the edge of holding every single play…and try to get away with it. It’s not Wagoner’s fault they didn’t call it…he was just trying to make the play while skirting the edge of a penalty. It was HARDLY a play that changed the result of the game.

  78. It was the perfect time to try to make a play. Pre-snap, it was an 85% chance or better he makes the kick. If you try to jump the count and block the kick OR hurdle the line, you have a chance to block the kick. If you get called for a penalty who cares…it was an 85+% chance he made the kick anyway. The chances of him missing the kick AND getting called for a penalty are a lot less than doing nothing and watching the FG go through the uprights 85+% of the time.

  79. Clearly a foul by Seattle on the blocked FG. A player cannot use his handS on an opponent or a teammate to jump through a gap to block a FG. #MINvSEA
    — Terry McAulay (@SNFRules) December 11, 2018

    As many have noted, the play in #MINvsSEA should have been a penalty on Seattle for leverage. The officials should not have picked up the flag on that play.
    — Gene Steratore (@GeneSteratore) December 11, 2018

    Lots of talk about the Wagner block. The wording in the rule book is NEW this year and is clear. The new wording states, “May not place a hand or hands on a teammate or opponent in an attempt to jump through a gap to block an opponent’s kick or apparent kick.” Case closed. Foul.
    — Mike Pereira (@MikePereira) December 11, 2018

  80. Lots of talk about the Wagner block. The wording in the rule book is NEW this year and is clear. The new wording states, “May not place a hand or hands on a teammate or opponent in an attempt to jump through a gap to block an opponent’s kick or apparent kick.” Case closed. Foul.
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    By letter of the law, yes, its a foul.

    SPIRIT of the law?.. Wagner gained no competitive advantage, going to the ground, placing his hands momentarily on teammates back.

    Its a silly rule.

    Overshadows an incredible play by the games best ‘backer.

  81. you made the play because you cheated, bobby. simple as that. that’s why they have rules against doing what you did, otherwise, field goals would be blocked a lot more.

  82. I don’t know where this was heard, but… Someone mentioned the rule was written to eliminate vaulting off other players to gain elevation to reach the ball; and that this was different because the vaulting action was only used to get over the line – the actual jump to the ball was from his own feet on the ground. That is, he landed first and then jumped for the ball. Different?

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