Goodell says it wouldn’t be appropriate for the NFL to pay for video

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On multiple occasions, most notably with Ray Rice and Kareem Hunt, the NFL has been caught flat-footed by TMZ publishing video of NFL players acting badly. Which has led some to say the NFL ought to investigate these cases the same way TMZ does, by paying people for videos.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell shot that idea down today, saying he thinks it would be inappropriate for the NFL to do anything other than go through official channels like asking police departments and businesses to share security footage.

“We don’t pay for video evidence,” Goodell said. “That’s not appropriate for a league or organization to do that.”

Of course, that approach has already been proven ineffective in the Rice and Hunt cases. So why not improve the league’s own investigations by paying for information?

“We’re not going to do it by corrupting people or trying to bribe them to give us video. That’s not what we do,” Goodell said.

Which means the Hunt video won’t be the last one that TMZ gets before the NFL.

43 responses to “Goodell says it wouldn’t be appropriate for the NFL to pay for video

  1. if the league offers to pay for dirt to be dug up on it’s players, I think the NFLPA would get involved in that. AND competing leagues might suddenly become more attractive if they can pony up NFL-like salaries.

  2. We won’t pay for video’s and we won’t watch ones sent to us until it’s exposed to the nation like Ray Rice, then we’ll say we never got it.

  3. But it’s ok to suspend a player without due process? Costing himself and his family money lost (salary and sponsors), during the suspension, and the security of any remaining guaranteed money on their contract or perhaps risk being completely ostracized from the NFL. I think the least the NFL can do if they insist on continuing their investigation is to produce real evidence (ie video, police report, witness testimony, etc.) prior to any suspensions.

  4. It’s not appropriate for the NFL to investigate anything. As they’ve proven time after time they aren’t equipped to conduct a thorough investigation and arrive at a logic conclusion. The smart thing to do would be to punish players who violate the law and are prosecuted after the criminal justice system handles the investigation. Why on earth the NFL would want to continue to be involved in these botched investigations that make them look totally incompetent is beyond me.

  5. duh… they are a group of lawyers. they arent bribing anyone. anyone that thought they would is a moron. NFLPA would eat them alive

  6. Has it been determined that the NFL at the very least attempted to get this video? Cleveland Police Dept is evidently investigating whether NFL asked for video. Do we know for certain NFL requested video from hotel?

    I don’t think they should bribe anyone, I agree w/Goodell on this. But I am not sure NFL did any investigation other than speak to Kareem.

  7. What I can’t figure out is why the public is outraged the NFL didn’t get the video but don’t seem to express those same feelings towards the Police who are employed by the public to investigate. The NFL isn’t the police. Why do we expect them to be just that? There should be an investigation into CPD.

  8. whats not appropriate is for Roger Goodell to be the commissioner of the NFL.
    I kinda doubt he will agree which makes me even more steadfast.
    Who believes anything he says any more?

  9. “But it’s ok to suspend a player without due process?”

    Because it’s a business, and not a civil or criminal court. This constantly gets confused.

  10. It’s the players fault for doing appalling things in the first place and if there is a video of it, the player should assume it will eventually come out.

    However, the NFL are happy to promote and make money from a player’s positive image and they should take responsibility when they are wrong.

  11. I support Roger Goodell and the NFL 100%. The NFL is the greatest source of entertainment in the world. You’d have to look real hard to find any imperfections in the way the league handles themselves. If all you can see is a half-empty glass whenever you open your eyes, or if you’re mad at the league because Tom Brady got caught with his hand in the cookie jar, God bless you.

  12. Well, he’s never needed evidence in order to do anything, so paying for the truth is just a waste of money.

  13. The NFL has handled domestic abuse cases poorly, but Goodell has a point here. Once you start paying for evidence, that evidence becomes tainted, and you now incentivize people to manufacture or manipulate evidence, or get into bidding wars for the evidence.

  14. Goodell is such a clown. In these cases he just thought the video would not surface. Did he make mention of weather or not they even asked the hotel or casino if there was footage available? No. He doesn’t think it would be appropriate for a multi BILLION dollar business with him personally making more per year then any PLAYER in the league to do his job. He’s a freaking idiot and thinks we are stooges.

  15. Hate to say it…but Clown Rodger is right. Paying what is basically a bribe to nail one of his own employees is stupid. The NFLPA would have a field day with that.

  16. This is the only smart thing Roger has said since, well, let’s just say this is the first smart thing he has said in a long time.

    If I had a video that would aid in the investigation of a crime I would turn if over to authorities ASAP. While you are not technically “withholding evidence” if you are not asked to provide it – providing evidence without being asked to is the proper thing to do. In my opinion people who hold out for cash are scumbags.

  17. Because it’s a business, and not a civil or criminal court. This constantly gets confused.

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    The point is not about legality or the NFLs ability to reprimand it’s own employees(they do), the point is should the NFL intentionally harm the ability of its employees to earn a living without said employee having been found guilty through the legal process or even formally charged with a crime. In particular, the cavalier,inconsistent application of the league rules by Goodell, further proves that the NFL is woefully under qualified to make those determinations.

  18. So it is better that it goes out to a third party who makes you a laughingstock and paints your domestic violence stance as a sham?

    Not sure why they keep this clown around, but it is shameful that they don’t really have a defined process that they adhere to on a regular basis. Oh well. The Ravens have immortalized a murderer, so after that everything else is gravy, right Roger?

  19. Whomever held onto the video should be arrested for obstruction of justice. If the NFL pays for videos then they can destroy that video . Sounds like the police screwed up

  20. It is not appropriate for the NFL to make any disciplinary decisions based on information obtained illegally. Bribing a “low level” employee for a video is another way of saying ‘buying stolen property’ which would not be legal.

    It is not unreasonable, (it is perhaps probable) that a court would rule the NFL cannot discipline a player based on information discovered this way, and the NFL could very well find itself having to keep the next Hunt or Rice on its payroll for the duration of their contract.

  21. That’s fine if they don’t want to pay for it. But that also means they’re unlikely to be the ones obtaining the videos. There are really two separate problems at play here: 1. The NFL’s insistence on doing their own investigations instead of letting the police and courts sort things out first, and 2. The NFL’s hubris in believing everybody is going to drop everything to hand them evidence. The aftermath of most of these cases is the same: Stories come out about the NFL contacting people demanding things and the people simply blowing them off because they were under no obligation to provide anything to the NFL. (In some cases it’d even be illegal to hand things over to the NFL without first clearing it with law enforcement.)

  22. Strange to say but….I actually think he’s right. Yeah, they may have gotten the video this time, but there’s no guarantee that you’ll get what you need, or that in the future evidence will be withheld in order to get a payday from the league. Do we really think that people are not beyond faking claims that they have “evidence” of a player misbehaving just to get to try and get a cashgrab from the league?

  23. It’s not appropriate to falsely accuse a player of a crime then suspend him for 4 games, nor to suspend a player 6 games for being falsely accused of a crime.

    Doesn’t stop Goodell though.

  24. Why is the NFL in the investigation business of Domestic violence? Let the legal system take its course then make a decision on that player. Not before.

  25. Either you’re going to investigate or you’re not. If you are, then you need to do it fully and completely, and that means paying for video. If you’re not willing to investigate fully, then don’t investigate at all.

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