Mark Davis essentially admits that Jon Gruden runs the show in Oakland

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From the moment the Raiders gave coach Jon Gruden a 10-year, $100 million contract (reportedly, maybe not actually), it became clear that Gruden is running the show. Gruden still tries from time to time to create the impression that he isn’t fully and firmly in charge of the football operation, possibly in order to preserve the ability to blame others for misjudgments that otherwise trace to him.

Regardless, any lingering cover Gruden may have had (none) is now gone, thanks to comments from owner Mark Davis about the looming search for a new G.M.

“One of the issues we have right now is when you’re dealing with player personnel and the General Managers, they’re on a different schedule than the football team is,” Davis said. “The General Manager sees an end basically in April or May after they’ve drafted the players and after they’ve gotten through the first series of free agency. So right now, there’s a lot of people that are on other teams that may be suitable for the Raiders, but we can’t talk to them, and we won’t be able to talk to them until May or so. So right now we’re limited to talking to people who are not on other teams or in the college ranks or something of that nature. That’s the interesting part of this.”

But the Raiders aren’t limited by any timeline; teams routinely hire General Managers in January. The Raiders are limited by the power that the G.M. would have.

That’s the real impediment to hiring a G.M. in January. Any executive under contract with another team can be blocked from interviewing with the Raiders unless the job entails power that otherwise is held by Gruden. Davis, then, is saying that they may wait until after the draft, when contracts potentially expire and/or potentially viable candidates for the Oakland job get hired.

Davis also is saying, without saying it, that Gruden has all the power that a traditional G.M. would possess.

It means that the Raiders may not have a G.M. through the 2019 draft, one in which the Raiders possess three first-round picks. Then again, they have Gruden. Which means that, as a practical matter, they already have their G.M.

54 responses to “Mark Davis essentially admits that Jon Gruden runs the show in Oakland

  1. I could have expected a sub .500 season first year. But Gruden has shown NO ability to do anything with the team. He’s praying they get to LV before he gets fired so that he can get all the accolades and publicity.

  2. sllib12 says:
    December 12, 2018 at 6:46 pm
    Alfalfa Davis is the worst owner in all of sports.

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    Jed York says hi to Mike Brown, who passes by Jimmy Haslem, who’s engaged in conversation with Daniel Snyder, who wonders who runs the show in Green Bay.

    True story.

  3. The only thing more puzzling than why the Raiders are even making a pretense of having a GM position, is why anyone would apply for it.

  4. …and that is why the Raiders don’t need a ‘GM’. Essentially Gruden occupies both positions with I daresay both salaries and since he’s been pulling the strings since he was hired no need for the ‘GM’ position. But as such he needs to be aware of everything going on in the organization from scouting to contracts to waiver wires.

  5. In Gruden’s short stint, he has dumped Khalil Mack, Bruce Irvin, Amari Cooper and Reggie McKenzie and all he has to show for it are some draft picks and a lousy record. It must be getting really uncomfortable in that clubhouse. Sure seems like a lot can go wrong with this style of management. I guess we shall soon find out.

  6. While this year is over for the Raiders, I think Gruden deserves a chance. I’m not ready to call him a failure yet. Give him two more years. If they are still terrible then it’s a failure. Look on the bright side, he’s still better than the Browns were the previous decade. Same for the Jags.

  7. Gruden has an unfair but extreme advantage. As a annoucer for NFL he was available to inside information from coaches and even players. They have interviews before the Mon/Thurs night games. They go over plays and formations, how and why coaches call certain plays, player strenghts and weakness ect. Jon Gruden had unlimited access to draft picks for years where he worked them out, tested them plus interviews. That’s a HUGE advantage for a coach/GM to have.

  8. I’ll be very surprised if any of those 1st rounders that Gruden stockpiled even pan out given his awful track record of draft selections in Tampa and with the Raiders 2018 draft. And as a consequence I’ll also be very surprised if the Raiders surpass 4 or 5 wins in any season while Gruden is in charge.

    Meanwhile Khalil Mack & Amari Cooper have helped to transform the Bears & Cowboys from losing teams in 2017 to legitimate playoff contenders in 2018.

  9. Gruden lucked into a Super Bowl caliber roster in Tampa courtesy of Tony Dungy. And in fairness to him, he motivated them into winning the big game. After that it was a long slow decline accompanied by the Gruden self promotion tour. I have had a soft spot in my heart for the Raiders going back to the Kenny Stabler days. But I think this Gruden hire will become an epic mistake. Since they are moving to Vegas and his contract is ten years, I am taking the under.

  10. Gruden hasn’t had a lot of success in the draft previously.

    The upcoming draft is VERY important because of the large number of quality draft picks they have. If they don’t “make hay while the sun shines” now, they may not get another opportunity as solid as this one

    Whether you call the new guy a GM or not, the Raiders would be wise to hire a draft specialist at Gruden can get along with — at least for the next draft.

  11. Gruden is the son Al Davis wanted. Even though he doesn’t look like Al, he sure does have his menatily and mannerisms. And I’m okay with that. I like Gruden, probably more though if he would have been the GM. He’s trying to imitate Lombardi in an era where it just doesn’t work anymore.
    The my way or highway mentality is long gone for the most part. And that’s a lot of work for one man these days. Overload !! It’ll be his downfall.

  12. All those picks and no one in the building who knows what to pick. Par for the course in Oakland where they’ve had 2 good first round players in the last 10 years.

  13. I’m sure Gruden is amassing a treasure chest of draft picks to develop the Raiders over the next 2-4 years. And I look forward to his trading Carr next year for a few draft picks. Just watch Gruden draft a QB prospect to groom, but I think his emphasis will be DEs and WRs. Even though Gruden himself is a grip on my groin, he will draft a few groin grinders to improve the Raiders. The Raiders are not my cup of tea, but they do manhandle the Steelers.

  14. So Gruden is the one playing 4D chess with the roster and setting up the Raiders for the future? Awesome, he is doing a great job at it. All of that salary cap and all those draft picks are going to lay a great foundation for years to come.

  15. Really either he will be let go running the show or not either this year or if not this year, in 2019. And paying that amount for a coach to leave the booth. What were the Raiders thinking. They are probably kicking themselves in the rear!

  16. Let’s see what Mack and Cooper do next year. Alot of guys kill it the first year their original teams give up on them, the year after you find out who they really are. Actually think Cooper was the better player, Carr just doesnt throw as well on deep outside routes

  17. thetooloftools says:
    December 12, 2018 at 6:47 pm
    Who would ever be stupid enough to take the G.M. job for the Raiders? You would be better off being a kamikaze pilot.

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    Someone who wants to be paid like a GM without all of the responsibilities? Let’s say Gruden doesn’t workout and they throw the GM under the bus. At least the GM can put on his resume that the Raider’s failure wasn’t his fault.

  18. 1phillyphan says:
    December 12, 2018 at 7:37 pm
    Gruden has an unfair but extreme advantage. As a annoucer for NFL he was available to inside information from coaches and even players. They have interviews before the Mon/Thurs night games. They go over plays and formations, how and why coaches call certain plays, player strenghts and weakness ect. Jon Gruden had unlimited access to draft picks for years where he worked them out, tested them plus interviews. That’s a HUGE advantage for a coach/GM to have.

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    And that has worked out how well for him this year?

  19. GM in the NFL is a dream job, you go all those meetings with scouts and in draft day it doesn’t matter if you hit or miss, almost every fan can do it better, Then you get fired not after at least a couple of years and earning some good money, where can I get my interview?

  20. Through 12 seasons — hardly a small sample size — Gruden has posted a thoroughly mediocre 98-91 record. Those stats look worse when you consider he inherited a great Tampa team and rode its vaunted defense to a Super Bowl title before driving the team into the ground and getting fired. Only Davis could give a $100 million contract to a 98-91 coach. Feel bad for Raiders for fans as the next decade will be bleak.

  21. JaMarcus Gruden is the latest Great mistake of the Leadership of the Davis It really is sad to me cause i love a tough Raider team. I’m a Patriot fan..and i still remember 1976 so im no bandwagoner

  22. If Jeff Fisher had an heir apparant to his mediocrity and being loved by the media for doing absolutely nothing positive, it would be Jon Gruden.

    Despite how bad the Raiders do, expect every talking head to kiss Gruden’s rear end.

  23. The Raiders are lost. It’s going to get a lot worse before it gets any better especially if the FO is seriously going to let Gruden act as GM & put him in charge of player acquisition…. That’s a recipe for disaster & a huge failure in progress because Gruden is NOT a good talent evaluator. With Chucky in charge I wouldnt be surprised at all to see him trade Derek Carr n his bloated contract for draft picks using them to wayyyy over draft a QB out of this years very weak QB Class would set em back tremendously. This is not a smart move by Mark Davis but then again neither was Gruden 100$M dollar deal. Al”s biggest mistake in life isn’t exactly known for making great decisions.

  24. daddeeo says:
    December 12, 2018 at 7:13 pm
    I could have expected a sub .500 season first year. But Gruden has shown NO ability to do anything with the team.
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    Except that

    1. Derek Carr is having his best statistical season ever and

    2. We just beat PIT

    Go ahead and throw the dirt on us. You’re about to see the biggest offseason a team has ever had.

  25. It’s pretty simple. Herock is head of personnel and Gruden head of football. It sounds like Davis is worried about hiring a GM that gets along with Herock.

  26. People love to talk about what Gruden did in TB – which was win a SB, btw.

    And conveniently forget that before that, he BUILT a SB contender in OAK. See, while he was supposedly riding Dungy’s team to a SB win, Bill Callahan was riding GRUDEN’S team to a SB appearance.

    But don’t let any of that get in the way of this unreasoning hate. It’s amusing.

  27. The raiders saved MNF and ESPN by hiring Gruden. Lets wait and see if anyone comes forward to save Oakland

  28. ringheadcrusher says:
    December 13, 2018 at 10:08 am
    People love to talk about what Gruden did in TB – which was win a SB, btw.

    And conveniently forget that before that, he BUILT a SB contender in OAK. See, while he was supposedly riding Dungy’s team to a SB win, Bill Callahan was riding GRUDEN’S team to a SB appearance.

    But don’t let any of that get in the way of this unreasoning hate. It’s amusing.
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    And what did John Gruden do after the 2002 season? Last I checked other than a single 11-5 season from 2003-2008 John Gruden pretty much stunk it up in Tampa after his lone Super-Bowl win going 45-51. And despite being a QB Guru he never once developed a young QB and always had terrible QB play in Tampa. He is started to repeat the things that got him fired in Tampa as the Head-Coach of the Raiders. He is NOT a good talent evaluator and now that he’s essentially the De-Facto GM in OAK prepare for a lot of draft busts coming the Raiders way.

  29. Raiders should hire a G.M. with equal talent, drive and vision as their coach. Let Gruden coach, then let the G.M. manage the personnel. Gruden has proven over again he is deficient in making personnel decisions. I am not looking forward to the 2019 draft if Gruden is the de-facto G.M.. It will be a day of costly, embarrassing picks. A day of head scratching in the NFL.

  30. ringheadcrusher says:
    December 13, 2018 at 10:08 am

    People love to talk about what Gruden did in TB – which was win a SB, btw.

    And conveniently forget that before that, he BUILT a SB contender in OAK. See, while he was supposedly riding Dungy’s team to a SB win, Bill Callahan was riding GRUDEN’S team to a SB appearance.

    But don’t let any of that get in the way of this unreasoning hate. It’s amusing.

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    Gruden built nothing in his first Raiders stint. Al Davis controlled the draft, trades, FA and Davis was the one who assembled those Raiders teams. Also Gruden didn’t have his first winning record until the 3rd year of his first stint.

    The reality is that Gruden in his first Raiders stint was no better (in terms of record on the field) than Art Shell was in his first stint.

  31. Mark Davis isn’t smart enough to run the show nor strong enough personality-wise to take on Gruden. With all the money his dad had and connections, the only school Davis was able to get into was Chico St, which held the title of biggest party school in the country for many years.

  32. Scott McCloughan in a Johnnie Walker or Evan Williams fueled bender would be a better gm than chuckles.

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