Al Riveron admits Bobby Wagner blocked field goal should have been flagged

AP

A pivotal moment in the Seahawks’ win over the Vikings on Monday night came when Seattle’s Bobby Wagner blocked a field goal with five minutes left in the fourth quarter. One official threw a flag, but after a conference, the referees announced that there was no penalty.

Today NFL V.P. of Officiating Al Riveron admitted that there should have been a penalty. In his weekly video, Riveron showed the play and said that Wagner should have been flagged.

“In this case, this is a foul,” Riveron said. “He’s gonna put both hands on a teammate and he’s going to use his teammates to leverage himself to get to the other side. If you use your teammates and/or an opponent to help you to get to the other side to help you block a kick, that is a foul.”

Riveron did not explain why the officials ended up not enforcing a penalty, but the umpire who threw the flag reportedly flagged Wagner for a different but related penalty, against jumping over the line from depth. Another official overruled the umpire, saying Wagner was on the line of scrimmage when he jumped, making it legal in that respect, and none of the officials noticed that Wagner put his hands on teammates to leverage himself.

If the penalty had been called, the Vikings would have had first-and-10 at the Seahawks’ 14-yard line, where they very well might have scored a touchdown and taken a 7-6 lead with just a few minutes remaining in the game. It was a costly no-call for Minnesota, and a fortunate bad call for Seattle.

85 responses to “Al Riveron admits Bobby Wagner blocked field goal should have been flagged

  1. I couldn’t figure out why commenters were arguing that it wasn’t a penalty. It couldn’t have been more clear. Did it make a difference, we’ll never know? The only certainty is that it is far from the last bad call or non-call that will be made this year.

  2. You didn’t need to convince anyone outside of Seattle fans and apparently Wagner and the ST coach that block was illegal for a number of reasons, he leveraged over the two lineman to clear the line. The two lineman held the offensive lineman down so he could clear the call. Call whichever you like.

  3. Ask Terry McAulay about them missing the David Moore TD, oh wait you don’t have too cause he’s already on Twitter saying they blew that call too.

  4. Sorry the Vikings record isn’t because of one bad call. And that game wasn’t lost because of one bad call. The Vikings are just not very good, specifically on offense. SKOL!

  5. You mean the one a ref saw, threw a flag on then changed his mind and apparently didn’t know if he saw it or not? What happened to the ref(s) that potentially/likely decided the game between that and the phantom pass interference on Rhodes? The usual, “hey, you tried, you’ll get ‘em next time.”

  6. ARod(in his collarbone) says:
    December 14, 2018 at 5:39 pm
    It’s always been the NFL against the Vikings. We get screwed again, nothing new.

    —-

    What about the calls that gifted you a tie?

  7. -Feels like a gray area – Since it was leaping to get past the LoS then attempting the block. Leverage refers to using hands to get additional height to block. Since Wagner leaped then attempt the block afterward past the LoS, seems a bit unclear.
    LEVERAGE
    (o) Jumping or standing on a teammate or opponent to block or attempt to block an opponent’s kick.
    (p) Placing a hand or hands on a teammate or opponent
    to gain additional height in the block or attempt to block an opponent’s kick.
    (q) Being picked up by a teammate in a block or an at tempt to block an opponent’s kick.
    LEAPING
    (r) Clearly running forward and leaping in an obvious at tempt to block a field goal, or Try-kick after touchdown and landing on players, unless the leaping player was originally lined up within one yard of the line of scrimmage when the ball was snapped

  8. Hey Seattle fans, I guess this is another example of the NFL trying to build up that LA market right? I mean, that’s the conspiracy theory you all believe if an official makes one call that benefits the Rams or Chargers. 🙄

  9. This wasn’t just a mistake. It was blatant homerism and on purpose tilting of the game so that the desired team and Star Quarterback would win ensuring they would get into the playoffs.

  10. Why does the NFL bother admitting mistakes made on the field 4 days later? Everyone outside of Seattle knew it was a penalty, and all this does is aggravate the Vikings fans all over again.

  11. On a typical play with guys running all over the field, you can at least understand a missed call.

    But on a field goal, the whole play takes place right near the line, and it is inconceivable that an entire crew can miss something that was blatantly obvious to everyone watching.

  12. Minnesota totally wins that game if not for that call. That’s why they fired DeFilippo, right? The NFL probably planted DeFilippo in Minny to undermine their entire season. It’s all rigged!

  13. As bad as the Viking offense played in that game, they were that close to having a great chance to take the lead and hold on to win. Just a bad break, and you move on and hope the team plays better so it doesn’t come down to one bad call.

  14. Sad as it is, that wasn’t the most egregiously called game. Chargers/Chiefs was even worse. apparently, placing your hand on an opponent in the secondary constituted defensive holding, unless it didn’t…Great timing by the league, just as they embrace gambling, the officiating hits all time lows.

  15. jman967 says:
    December 14, 2018 at 5:41 pm
    You didn’t need to convince anyone outside of Seattle fans and apparently Wagner and the ST coach that block was illegal for a number of reasons, he leveraged over the two lineman to clear the line. The two lineman held the offensive lineman down so he could clear the call. Call whichever you like.
    ++++
    I’m a Seahawks fan, and yes, it was illegal. The problem is that the ref threw the flag for what he thought he saw, jumping over the line from depth. Since that didn’t happen, they picked up the flag.

    The refs screwed this one up. And as another poster said, we’ll never know how the game would have ended up if the right call was made.

  16. The foul that was flagged was not a foul, jumping over the line from depth, because Wagner was on the line. So what were they to do, say, oh yeah the flag was for a foul that wasn’t but he did “leverage” so we’ll call that instead?

  17. Is anyone really surprised that the Hawks get a call that goes in their favor while playing at home on Monday night? Look at the track record over the last 5-6 years in particular.

  18. minneanderthals says:
    December 14, 2018 at 5:45 pm
    ARod(in his collarbone) says:
    December 14, 2018 at 5:39 pm
    It’s always been the NFL against the Vikings. We get screwed again, nothing new.

    —-

    What about the calls that gifted you a tie?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    You mean gifted the cheese a tie? Kendrick’s had a horrible roughing the passer call against him that allowed you a fresh set of downs and led to a TD. Add that to our kicker missing 3 FG’s, and you were never in the game son.

  19. “and a fortunate bad call for Seattle.”

    An ongoing pattern of fortunate bad calls favoring Seattle late in games going back to the Fail Mary.

  20. Blah blah says:
    Hey Seattle fans, I guess this is another example of the NFL trying to build up that LA market right? I mean, that’s the conspiracy theory you all believe if an official makes one call that benefits the Rams or Chargers

    Don’t worry both LA team will get bumped out in the first playoff game they play this year too but yeah the NFL has been playing favorites for a long time. They don’t want the Rams to fail AGAIN in LA just like they have a vested interest in making sure certain stars are in the playoffs.

    They tilt the game to produce the results they want, and by having teams play with different sets of rules.

  21. Meh, the Vikes would still have had to move the ball after that — it’s all water under the bridge. The Hawks deserved to win.

    Once again, I see certain cheesers have chimed in on the Vikings numbers, and neglected to reference the number 781, which is the number of days since the Packer last beat the Vikings.

  22. ARod(in his collarbone) says:
    December 14, 2018 at 6:09 pm
    minneanderthals says:
    December 14, 2018 at 5:45 pm
    ARod(in his collarbone) says:
    December 14, 2018 at 5:39 pm
    It’s always been the NFL against the Vikings. We get screwed again, nothing new.
    —-
    What about the calls that gifted you a tie?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    You mean gifted the cheese a tie? Kendrick’s had a horrible roughing the passer call against him that allowed you a fresh set of downs and led to a TD. Add that to our kicker missing 3 FG’s, and you were never in the game son.

    —-

    Ok, Daughter. Phantom roughing the subpar passer call that nullified the game clinching INT?

    Let’s be real here. The Vikings should have another loss. Everyone knows it.

  23. Seahawks games are rigged.. Half their team should be banned from the league from slippery Pete to Frank Clark to Kendricks.. dynasty. 2012s. Stay classy Seattle.

  24. Bud Grant said it best “millions or billion dollars invested in these teams,be controlled by twenty five cent officials”

  25. Why does it seem like the officials give the Seahawks more breaks than any other team in the league? From the Fail Mary, to the batted ball against Detroit, to the first Rams game this year where it seemed like every ref had money on the Seahawks and I’m sure I’m forgetting many others…and now this.

    You’re only jeopardizing the Vikings playoff chances and costing people jobs. No biggie, right?

  26. ARod(in his collarbone) says:
    December 14, 2018 at 5:39 pm
    It’s always been the NFL against the Vikings. We get screwed again, nothing new.
    ______________

    Oh, Boo Hoo!
    Please take off your tinfoil hat.

    *********************
    ARod(in his collarbone) says:
    December 14, 2018 at 6:09 pm
    minneanderthals says:
    December 14, 2018 at 5:45 pm
    ARod(in his collarbone) says:
    December 14, 2018 at 5:39 pm
    It’s always been the NFL against the Vikings. We get screwed again, nothing new.

    —-

    What about the calls that gifted you a tie?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    You mean gifted the cheese a tie? Kendrick’s had a horrible roughing the passer call against him that allowed you a fresh set of downs and led to a TD. Add that to our kicker missing 3 FG’s, and you were never in the game son.

    _________________

    There were two defensive penalties on that particular play, either would have given the Packers a fresh set of downs.

    And as far as never being in the game, the Packers were leading that game since they walked into the endzone with a blocked punt and never looked back.

    That was until the league office stepped in and informed the refs to keep it close.
    See, we can all play this game.

  27. Hey Vikings fans — it was a horrible non call against the Seahawks. But I loved it then and I love it even more now! There’s nothing better than hearing Vikings fans whine about officiating after the Vikings lose.
    Thanks officials! Keep up the good work against the Vikings!

  28. thank you captain obvious. Now how about getting it right real time and 5 days later after the outcome. Isn’t there an official about 5 feet from the play. What was his explanation and why is he still employed?

  29. Refs need to be outsourced to a 3rd party or full-time employees of NFL, not contractors. Need periodic auditing by outside management consulting group. There needs to be more churn of bad employees and more uniformity in on field decision making. This is clearly a group that has little team training, communication and the ability to toss guys that have Vegas’s hand or anyone else’s hand in their pocket. Why, bc the NFL keeps them on as contractors.

    It was a game changing decision – the shield is getting way to many arrows in it and it’s about to fall apart.

  30. “This wasn’t just a mistake. It was blatant homerism and on purpose tilting of the game so that the desired team and Star Quarterback would win ensuring they would get into the playoffs.”

    Dude there is no such thing as “homerism” or “home cooking” in refs anymore. The league flies teams of refs around the country just like the teams fly the players around game to game. The refs assigned to any given stadium change every week and are rarely if ever working in their home cities.

    If there is anything fixing calls its coming from the league office and Goodell / Riveron’s direct oversight.

  31. Doesn’t help having people admit the wrongs, after the damage is done.

    These officials need to be held accountable.

    Total BS!

  32. Good to know that he NFL takes 4 days to admit something every fan knew 4 seconds after it happened. And the NFL wonders why people are starting to not watch games. You can’t even get a simple call made when a ref is standing there looking at the person making an illegal play.

  33. 1 of the 1000’s of reasons there should be an 8th ref in the sky “watching video footage”.
    The WHOLE WORLD saw him put his hands on his linemen + a foot off the defence player in front of him ” millions of people ” and 7 guys screw up. all they really have to do is look at the JUMBO SCREEN , since they can’t see whats in front of them.

  34. schmitty2 says:
    December 14, 2018 at 6:07 pm
    Is anyone really surprised that the Hawks get a call that goes in their favor while playing at home on Monday night? Look at the track record over the last 5-6 years in particular.
    +++
    Please list the ‘track record.’ While you’re at it, also list calls that didn’t go Seattle’s way, but should have, at home, on Monday night the past 5-6 years.

    Additionally, list the calls on MNF for the home team when Seattle was the visitor.

    If Seattle gets more calls at home, on average, on MNF at home than the home team does when Seattle is the visitor, you may be on to something.

  35. Being a life time Viking fan never like when a flag is thrown and the refs huddle up it’s never a Positive thing for us. Life as a Viking we know we can’t just be good because we have to be great to overcome the officiating too no surprise here or anywhere else in Vikings land. SKOL

  36. 1952vikefan says:
    December 14, 2018 at 7:26 pm
    Being a life time Viking fan never like when a flag is thrown and the refs huddle up it’s never a Positive thing for us. Life as a Viking we know we can’t just be good because we have to be great to overcome the officiating too no surprise here or anywhere else in Vikings land. SKOL
    ____________

    Yes! You’ve hit on it.
    The Minnesota Vikings are the only team in the entire NFL that’s ever had a bad call go against them.*

    *Sarcasm Off.

    This…….this right here, is a perfect example of why you and the rest of your fan base is laughed at and ridiculed throughout the league.

  37. Fail Mary
    Batting the ball out of the end zone
    Now the FG block

    Seattle gets more big, obviously bad calls than any other team. Maybe not more bad calls, but theirs are so bad/big, they’re easily recalled. And, all scoring related.w

    Yet Seaduck fans continually refuse to admit it.

  38. Al Riveron sounds like another Vikings worshipper like Goodell. There was nothing wrong with the Block. Anyone who actually knows something about Football knows Bobby Wagner never even touched anybody.

  39. ARod(in his collarbone) says:
    December 14, 2018 at 6:09 pm
    minneanderthals says:
    December 14, 2018 at 5:45 pm
    ARod(in his collarbone) says:
    December 14, 2018 at 5:39 pm
    It’s always been the NFL against the Vikings. We get screwed again, nothing new.
    —-
    What about the calls that gifted you a tie?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    You mean gifted the cheese a tie? Kendrick’s had a horrible roughing the passer call against him that allowed you a fresh set of downs and led to a TD. Add that to our kicker missing 3 FG’s, and you were never in the game son.
    ==================================================================================
    The roughing play on Kendricks put the Packers at the MN 47. The Vikings had opportunities to stop them. The Packers kicked a field goal on that drive, not a TD.

    Teams miss field goals all of the time. Two of Carlson’s misses from 48 and 49 yards.

    The Minnesota Vikings have never lost or tied a game where the referees didn’t cause it. Just ask their fans.

  40. harril3 says:
    December 14, 2018 at 7:49 pm
    Fail Mary
    Batting the ball out of the end zone
    Now the FG block

    Seattle gets more big, obviously bad calls than any other team. Maybe not more bad calls, but theirs are so bad/big, they’re easily recalled. And, all scoring related.w
    —————————————————————————–
    Super Bowl XL.

  41. Man every time you lose it’s the officials….. heck even when you win it’s overcoming the other team and the officials. Vikings fans just cant admit that you are a touch over rated and not quite as good as your typical preseason bravado…. News flash officiating is pretty bad across the board and cousins still can’t beat quality teams

  42. All penalties should be challengeable. Within a certain limit to avoid five hours game. But something has to be done, it’s getting ridiculous. The game moves too fast at times for the call to be made correctly. It’s one thing to when a bad call is made at the beginning of the game when there’s still time to compensate for it, but these incorrect end-of-game calls that are deciding outcomes has to stop.

  43. You think? Just another bad call. Seems to be a trend this season. I swear some of these officials need glasses!

  44. This is a stupid application of the leverage rule – caused by the league and referees not being able to tell the difference between a guy putting his hands on a teammates bum to guide himself between two teammates or using his arms to push up and lever himself up between two teammates. Oh it is just like pushing off versus hand fighting. No wonder they cant call a game consistently – they dont train their refs , they dont do a good enough job of evaluating each crew after each game ( which is why some crews are scouted and the players are warned that they dont call this or they call too much of that). Crews should have some minor tendencies but not major tendencies to the point that teams have to scout the refereeing crews.

  45. Yes maybe they score a TD, or maybe they end up kicking again after 3 failed attempts. Who knows. But to have held SEattle to 6 points with 5 minutes left.

    Come on O.

    The pick before the half the guy needed to get up and score. The D needs to practice scoring on every pick and fumble recovery

  46. Let’s not forget the blatant face mask on Dalvin Cook by the same Bobby Wagner in the first quarter that would have been his 2nd 15 yard penalty in as many drives but hey let’s keep the star on the field right NFL?

  47. The football gods have a way of exacting karma at the worst possible moment. Now the Viking fans can claim it cost them the game but that isn’t true, they stunk most of the game so it is not clear that they would have won with or without those three points.

    As for the Seahawks, watch out. You got one in the plus column and there will be a time in the very near future where karma will come into play and there will be a corresponding call in the negative column. I just hope it is in the playoffs.

  48. So Al put a process in place to fix such obvious faults. After the fact is meaningless if you don’t fix the problem.

    We lost the battle because of a stupid call but we’re not interested in fixing it is a joke.

  49. That call was the call. The Vikings beat themselves ended up firing a guy who I think out smarted himself. A guy looking at head coaching spots while taking this job. I taught youth football and I always told the boys never allow the referees be the game Score 30 points yank the will away from the team. I’m a Vikings fan since 1970s this team had heartache from day one, but score point in the first three quarters…. NOW Cousins throw the ball stop worrying about your passing percentage rating. ST Coach will be unemployed after the season.

    SKOL

  50. That’s no more frustrating than calling a penalty that isn’t, like the RTP called on Matthews, handing the Vikings an un-earned tie against the Packers. Stuff happens.

  51. You mean gifted the cheese a tie? Kendrick’s had a horrible roughing the passer call against him that allowed you a fresh set of downs and led to a TD. Add that to our kicker missing 3 FG’s, and you were never in the game son.
    ——
    There’s that mn fan logic. Your kicker missed three field goals AFTER the bad call on Mathews wiped out the game sealing int….and after Crosby missed the game winning kick in regulation. But let’s not let the truth get in the way. Your team lost that game and the refs kept them in it….so no complaining when it goes the other way.

  52. Huge missed call, The Vikings were moving the ball. Would have been first and ten on the 20 and its was a 0-6 game at the time, what could of been we will never know.

  53. stellarperformance says:
    December 15, 2018 at 9:56 am

    That’s no more frustrating than calling a penalty that isn’t, like the RTP called on Matthews, handing the Vikings an un-earned tie against the Packers. Stuff happens.
    ——————–
    The roughing call against Kendricks was much lighter and it kept the Packers drive alive which resulted in a score. You only see what you want.

  54. The NFL officials are the best in the world at what they do. Tom Brady is the best at what he does too, and just as many people hate him as love him. The same can be said of LeBron James, Tiger Woods, Peyton Manning, etc. Does that say more about us or them?

  55. And yes other teams get bad calls to just usually not against the Vikings every once in a while they get a call but at a rate of 10 bad to 1 good I’d say opposite for the packers they never get called for holding for Erin

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