Pete Carroll: Turf at Levi’s Stadium was “really lousy”

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When a team loses a football game, comments made about external factors from officiating to the quality of the field can be perceived as excuses. That doesn’t make unacceptable external factors acceptable.

For the Seahawks, who lost to the 49ers at Levi’s Stadium on Sunday, one of the external factors that they had to deal with was the quality of the playing surface.

“It wasn’t great,” Seattle coach Pete Carroll told reporters on Monday. “It wasn’t great. There were guys slipping all over the place and you could see guys in pass protection, you could see guys on field goal protection sticking their cleats in the ground and it was moving. It’s the same on both sides of the ball, though. They’re subject to the same turf that we are, so there’s no reason to complain about it. It just is what it is. It was a factor.”

The condition of the field wasn’t a surprise to Carroll.

“I thought it was going to be that way,” he said. “I told them it was going to be really lousy and then when we got out there in pregame, it looked like a pretty good turf. They had redone the middle part of it and all that a couple of weeks ago and it felt like it was going to be a good turf but it didn’t work out that way. You could see guys couldn’t dig in. It was just kind of == we were prepared for it. We were prepared for it to be a difficult turf, and it still was a factor. We were comparing it to what we expected in London [against the Raiders]. We had heard a lot about the turf [and how it] was going to be bad and we felt like we hung in there pretty good [in London]. We did all the same preparations and all of that. I don’t know if it was any worse, it just looked like it was an issue at times.”

Again, these comments can be perceived as complaining or excuse-making (even though Carroll said there’s no reason to complain). But if there was indeed an issue with the field, it’s another example of billion-dollar franchises with multi-million-dollar investments in their players not doing everything in their power to ensure that the players will be both as safe as possible and also able to perform to the highest level of their God-given abilities. And yet some of these billion-dollar franchises still tolerate subpar playing fields, and the league continues to allow them to.

It really shouldn’t be that difficult. For whatever reason, it continues to be. And that’s one of the things the NFL should put at the top of the list of league-wide priorities: Clear and inflexible requirements for the quality of playing surfaces, with an understanding that, if a team can’t provide an adequate natural or hybrid turf, then a standard artificial playing surface will be used.

Most players prefer real grass to fake. But while a good grass field is better than the best fake field, a good fake field is better than a bad real one. And based on comments like those from Carroll it continues to be abundantly clear that the NFL isn’t doing enough to ensure that footing isn’t a factor in situations where there’s no snow, ice, or torrential rain.

27 responses to “Pete Carroll: Turf at Levi’s Stadium was “really lousy”

  1. Carroll is a stand up dude and wouldn’t make excuses. But don’t let that distract you from the fact the chickens lost to a practice squad. Hahahahahaha

  2. “And yet some of these billion-dollar franchises still tolerate subpar playing fields, and the league continues to allow them to.”
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    We love football because it’s played in rain, scorching heat, snowstorms, freezing weather, etc.

    Real players don’t care about “subpar” conditions that BOTH teams deal with as long as it’s fair.

  3. We love football because it’s played in rain, scorching heat, snowstorms, freezing weather, etc.

    Real players don’t care about “subpar” conditions that BOTH teams deal with as long as it’s fair.

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    You’re missing the point. When weather isn’t a factor, is it really too much for these guys to be playing on quality turf? No one wants to see players sliding around like it’s a skating rink.

  4. @viachicago22…

    Pete was not making excuses He was asked a question and said quote form the article “It’s the same on both sides of the ball, though. They’re subject to the same turf that we are, so there’s no reason to complain about it.”

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  5. I am not complaining but it sounds like complaining to me.

    Pete I hope you DON’T make the playoffs but still get the extension. I love beating you!

  6. Don’t they offer different length cleats? Newfangled threaded studs and such? I must’ve slept through the 90s.

  7. Everyone acts as if he is whining and complaining. He was asked a question, and he answered it. I didn’t see any whining, I saw it as an honest response. They lost the game because they:1. took this game for granted. You can’t do that with any team in the NFL, regardless of their record. 2. Too many penalties, you can’t win if you aren’t disciplined.

  8. Santa Clara got half an inch of rain Sunday. Does anyone think that has something to do with it?

  9. think it’s less about the players struggling to execute in these conditions and more so about injuries. there is definitely a correlation between lower leg injuries and crappy field conditions. both teams have to play on the field, and both teams are exposed to injuries because of it. The 9ers out-schemed the hawks, field conditions aside.

  10. akira1971 says:
    December 18, 2018 at 12:35 am
    “And yet some of these billion-dollar franchises still tolerate subpar playing fields, and the league continues to allow them to.”
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    We love football because it’s played in rain, scorching heat, snowstorms, freezing weather, etc.

    Real players don’t care about “subpar” conditions that BOTH teams deal with as long as it’s fair.
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    I love when people lecture us about ‘real’ players, fans, etc.

    If you accept the quality of a field that is that poor and will lead to more injuries simply because its ‘fair’ for both teams…that’s a laughably low standard.

  11. That field has been terrible from day one. It’s been redone multiple times with little to no improvement. So one asks if it’s an insolvable problem. One also asks if it isn’t more likely a contract issue with whomever the favored company and supplier is. Come on, is it really impossible to put a good suurface on that field?

  12. What difference does it make if part of the surface was redone a couple weeks prior to the game? Sod takes quite a while to root fully into the sub-soil. If it isn’t rooted well, it’s like a sheet of loose carpet sliding around on top of a hardwood floor.

  13. “Real players don’t care about “subpar” conditions that BOTH teams deal with as long as it’s fair.”

    Really? Tell me more about what *real players* do and don’t care about…

  14. Grass fields are more slippery compared to artificial turf. That makes it harder for the leg to get caught under the body and reduces serious injuries such as torn ACLs. If you look at the injuries Seattle players have suffered, you will know why many teams choose grass over artificial turf. The stadium in Phoenix is designed so that grass can be installed in a domed stadium by making the playing field movable. When there is no game, the turf can be moved outside the stadium to keep the grass alive and growing.

    Candlestick Park used to have an artificial turf, but they wisely changed it back to grass. As long as Putrid Sound Stadium has artifical turf, they are going to have more injuries than teams playing on natural turf.

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