Jon Gruden hopes to “restart” Nathan Peterman this offseason

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The Raiders signed quarterback Nathan Peterman to the practice squad on Wednesday and head coach Jon Gruden said on Thursday that the birth of AJ McCarron‘s child this week was part of the impetus for the move.

McCarron’s been away from practice and that left the Raiders in need of someone to quarterback their scout team as they prepare to face the Broncos. Gruden also pointed to the chance to work with Peterman over the upcoming offseason as part of what led to the signing.

Gruden acknowledged that Peterman had “some problems” while throwing 12 interceptions in 130 pass attempts during his time with the Bills, but Gruden called Peterman the most pro-ready quarterback in the 2017 draft class while he was still working for ESPN and said Thursday that he hopes to get him moving in the right direction.

“Hopefully we can take him into the offseason program and see if we can’t restart him and get him going,” Gruden said, via NBC Sports Bay Area.

Derek Carr and McCarron are under contract for next season, but there promises to be a lot of roster shuffling for the Raiders before the 2019 season and Peterman could wind up somewhere in the mix should Gruden like how the reboot takes shape.

60 responses to “Jon Gruden hopes to “restart” Nathan Peterman this offseason

  1. Coming up next, Gruden signs Paxton Lynch. “That guy is just a heck of a football player. Total baller. We are lucky to have him.”

  2. He did pull Rich Gannan off the scrap heap and turn him into a MVP.

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    Gannon was never really on the “scrap heap” he came in and won like 9 games for KC one season getting them to the playoffs. When he was in MN he always played well when he was in the game.

  3. In 2005 Gruden passed on Aaron Rodgers because he has Simms and Griese. He instead drafted Cadillac Williams. He was also high on Hackenberg, Manziel, and Tebow.

  4. If a team can resurrect a low budget QB it can be a gold mine salary cap wise also net high draft picks if they can unload Derek Carr, however this QB has been the absolute worst by far and should go play in these spring leagues coming up, xfl etc.

  5. kevines255 says:
    December 20, 2018 at 6:19 pm
    In 2005 Gruden passed on Aaron Rodgers because he has Simms and Griese. He instead drafted Cadillac Williams. He was also high on Hackenberg, Manziel, and Tebow

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    And in 2000, Bill Belichick passed on Tom Brady five times. In 1979 Bill Walsh wanted to draft Steve Dils instead of Joe Montana. But Gruden, Belichick, and Walsh are all super bowl champion coaches, so they don’t have to be perfect to win.

  6. Gruden is a “coaching genius”, a “legend” and an “offensive mastermind”. Just ask him (or his fanboys).

  7. orivar says:
    December 20, 2018 at 7:00 pm

    Except Gruden is a SB champ with a roster that was inherited and fell apart afterwards. Belichick & Walsh built their teams.

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    I’d say it could be argued that Bill Parcells had a very large impact on the early Patriots Belichick Super Bowl winning teams. The Super Bowl starters listed below were inherited from Parcells. Belichick wasn’t winning those Super Bowls without many of those Parcells players.

    Willie McGinest
    Ty Law
    Tedy Bruschi
    Lawyer Milloy
    Troy Brown
    Adam Vinatieri
    Ted Johnson

  8. I’m a Cowboys fan so I don’t have a dog in this fight.

    I read a good point somewhere about Gruden and Dungy. Most people will say that Gruden “inherited” Dungy’s team and won the SB with them. The point I read was “if Dungy was so good of a coach, why didn’t he win with that SB ready team?” Also, “if Dungy was so good of a coach, why did he only win 1 SB with Peyton, Freeney, Mathis, Marvin, and Reggie Wayne?”

    Maybe Gruden isn’t as terrible as most think.

  9. jorgetown420 says:
    December 20, 2018 at 7:54 pm
    I’m a Cowboys fan so I don’t have a dog in this fight.

    I read a good point somewhere about Gruden and Dungy. Most people will say that Gruden “inherited” Dungy’s team and won the SB with them. The point I read was “if Dungy was so good of a coach, why didn’t he win with that SB ready team?” Also, “if Dungy was so good of a coach, why did he only win 1 SB with Peyton, Freeney, Mathis, Marvin, and Reggie Wayne?”

    Maybe Gruden isn’t as terrible as most think

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    Gruden is a terrible coach. Dungy was too. Average maybe, but not HOF.

  10. Waste of money and roster space. Peterman has already proven that he cannot play many times, if you want a QB to groom why not just draft a guy over signing a dude we all know flatout just cannot play.

  11. This great dynasty in Tampa Bay that everyone says Tony Dungy built, well, Dungy was there 6 years and won 2 playoff games. He had one first place finish, and they hadn’t won a playoff game in two years before Gruden got there. Gruden won with a journeyman QB. By the way, Jerry Angelo was the long time Director Of Player Personnel for Tampa Bay. Tony was the coach. So at least if you’re going to credit someone for a mediocre roster, at least use the correct name.

  12. As someone who really wanted him to succeed as a Bill, I just don’t think Gruden will be able to coach his problems away.
    The biggest problrm he has is that he just doesn’t have the arm strength needed for the NFL. He can’t make the tough sideline or cross body throws. And I listened to Greg Cosell the other day, he said that is exactly why he wasn’t drafted early. Teams knew he wouldn’t make it!

  13. thebeeper says:
    December 20, 2018 at 6:06 pm
    12 picks in 130 attempts ? Enough said
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    and the bills have already thrown 12 picks this year as well. Josh Allen already has 9- should we say enough as well?

  14. slick50kc says:
    December 20, 2018 at 8:09 pm

    Gruden is a terrible coach. Dungy was too. Average maybe, but not HOF.

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    ok there, whose Coach is known as 1 and done

  15. rodgerstonelson says:
    December 20, 2018 at 8:29 pm
    If Kurt Warner can stop bagging grocery’s and win a SB. Nathan Peterman can be backup for 10 years.
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    Kurt Warner played in NFL Europe and Arena League when he wasn’t bagging groceries. Warner attributed his quick release to playing in Arena L. But I get your point, Peterman can be a backup for a long time if he sticks with the right team.

  16. Coltssteve sez:’OAK Raiders = home of castoff Bills QB’s: 1st EJ Manuel, et al…’

    Actually, 1st was Tom Flores, then a fellow named LaMonica.

    That worked out pretty well, i seem to recall.

  17. There are only two quarterbacks in the history of the NFL that have started the first 5 seasons of their career with 300 or more completions. One of them is Peyton Manning (he had 13 in a row before sitting out 2011, then came back and did 3 more seasons), the other QB is Derek Carr. Not sure of Carr can catch Brett Favre with 18 straight, but Mister Peterman isn’t going to see the field if it’s up to Carr.

  18. sigbouncer says:
    December 20, 2018 at 7:26 pm
    orivar says:
    December 20, 2018 at 7:00 pm

    Except Gruden is a SB champ with a roster that was inherited and fell apart afterwards. Belichick & Walsh built their teams.

    —————————————————

    I’d say it could be argued that Bill Parcells had a very large impact on the early Patriots Belichick Super Bowl winning teams. The Super Bowl starters listed below were inherited from Parcells. Belichick wasn’t winning those Super Bowls without many of those Parcells players.

    Willie McGinest
    Ty Law
    Tedy Bruschi
    Lawyer Milloy
    Troy Brown
    Adam Vinatieri
    Ted Johnson

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    Sure, if you took away all those guys and replaced them with absolute scrubs, but that scenario is highly unlikely, given that Belichick has proven to be extremely astute at personnel decisions over a very long time. He may very well have had those same guys on the roster if he had built it. Or he may have won anyway with other, equally capable guys.

    The only way that argument would really hold water would be if Belichick had won with Parcells’ guys and then never won again… like Barry Switzer (or Gruden).

    I’m not a Patriots fan but that doesn’t mean I can’t recognize Belichick as the best Head Coach/GM in the game today and quite possibly (likely, even) the best ever.

  19. This is a no lose situation for Gruden. Peterman will be low salaried and and low risk. Peterman was the victim of some awful luck and some bad talent around him. At least half his picks went through or bounced off receivers hands. Along with being thrown into games against very tough defenses. And don’t forget, he was really nothing more than a rookie himself. In another post a reader said that Josh Allen was doing more with the same team. That’s not exactly true. There have been changes in the O line and a couple young receivers with speed and a want to succeed along with getting rid of the laziest receiver ever in pro football have made a difference. When Allen played with the same team his numbers were slightly better but not that much. I think Peterman can be a serviceable QB for a lot of years with patience and good coaching.

  20. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    December 21, 2018 at 7:19 am

    sigbouncer says:
    December 20, 2018 at 7:26 pm

    I’d say it could be argued that Bill Parcells had a very large impact on the early Patriots Belichick Super Bowl winning teams. The Super Bowl starters listed below were inherited from Parcells. Belichick wasn’t winning those Super Bowls without many of those Parcells players.

    Willie McGinest
    Ty Law
    Tedy Bruschi
    Lawyer Milloy
    Troy Brown
    Adam Vinatieri
    Ted Johnson

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    Sure, if you took away all those guys and replaced them with absolute scrubs, but that scenario is highly unlikely, given that Belichick has proven to be extremely astute at personnel decisions over a very long time. He may very well have had those same guys on the roster if he had built it. Or he may have won anyway with other, equally capable guys.

    The only way that argument would really hold water would be if Belichick had won with Parcells’ guys and then never won again… like Barry Switzer (or Gruden).

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    It holds water based on Belichick’s terrible draft history in Cleveland while Parcells was bringing these guys to New England (until the ’96 draft when Parcells wouldn’t commit to coaching the Pats and they drafted Terry Glenn – groceries comment). Remember Belichick drafted a fullback (Tommy Vardell) with the 9th overall pick in the draft in Cleveland.

  21. Nate (not Nathan) Peterman was great his Sr year at Pitt. IF Gruden can help him get it figured out and moving forward again, Peterman could yet be a productive NFL QB.

  22. I’d say it could be argued that Bill Parcells had a very large impact on the early Patriots Belichick Super Bowl winning teams.

    I’d say the overrated bigmouth cost NE a win vs Green Bay by bailing on the team because he was mad at the owner. Absent wide right he’s another one and done coach. Notice how once he left the protected confines of New Jersey his accomplishments fall short.

  23. This is going to end worse than buying an old rusted out Plymouth and trying to “rebuild” it.

    It will just end up further rusting on cinder blocks in your backyard.

  24. aquineas1 says:
    December 21, 2018 at 8:44 am
    It would be good for the game to see it happen. He won a Super Bowl with Brad Johnson.

    Or Brad won despite Gruden. What does it take to convince some people? It’s right there in front of you. This used car salesman is not a top level coach.

  25. 33bcannon says:
    December 20, 2018 at 11:00 pm
    Coltssteve sez:’OAK Raiders = home of castoff Bills QB’s: 1st EJ Manuel, et al…’

    Actually, 1st was Tom Flores, then a fellow named LaMonica.

    That worked out pretty well, i seem to recall.
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    I remember Lamonica and Flores when they played for my Bills….you’re not seriously going to compare those 2 to Petermann are you?

  26. Bill Belichick is currently on a run of 18 consecutive winning seasons which is only exceeded in NFL history by Tom Landry’s streak of 20 (and in one of those 18 years Brady was injured and not the starter). On the other hand, Gruden has never put together more than 3 straight winning seasons (2000-2002).

    Belichick started off 5-11 in New England before his current run while Gruden started off with a Super Bowl win in Tampa (thanks largely to the Raiders’ Barret Robbins breakdown on the eve of the game) and went on to run a talented Bucs team into the ground.

    One of Al Davis’ biggest mistakes was in 1998 when he interviewed both Belichick & Gruden and chose Gruden. If he had chosen Belichick and given him some degree of latitude then the Raiders history over the last 20 years would’ve been infinitely better.

  27. sigbouncer says:
    December 21, 2018 at 9:27 am
    The Almighty Cabbage says:
    December 21, 2018 at 7:19 am

    sigbouncer says:
    December 20, 2018 at 7:26 pm

    I’d say it could be argued that Bill Parcells had a very large impact on the early Patriots Belichick Super Bowl winning teams. The Super Bowl starters listed below were inherited from Parcells. Belichick wasn’t winning those Super Bowls without many of those Parcells players.

    Willie McGinest
    Ty Law
    Tedy Bruschi
    Lawyer Milloy
    Troy Brown
    Adam Vinatieri
    Ted Johnson

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Sure, if you took away all those guys and replaced them with absolute scrubs, but that scenario is highly unlikely, given that Belichick has proven to be extremely astute at personnel decisions over a very long time. He may very well have had those same guys on the roster if he had built it. Or he may have won anyway with other, equally capable guys.

    The only way that argument would really hold water would be if Belichick had won with Parcells’ guys and then never won again… like Barry Switzer (or Gruden).

    ———————————————–

    It holds water based on Belichick’s terrible draft history in Cleveland while Parcells was bringing these guys to New England (until the ’96 draft when Parcells wouldn’t commit to coaching the Pats and they drafted Terry Glenn – groceries comment). Remember Belichick drafted a fullback (Tommy Vardell) with the 9th overall pick in the draft in Cleveland.
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    Reading your original post over again, I have to agree. “Bill Parcells had a very large impact on the early Patriots Belichick Super Bowl winning teams.” The point I was trying to make is that after Parcells’ influence was long gone, done and over, Belichick kept on winning… and winning… and winning some more, whereas Gruden didn’t (and Jebus knows, Switzer didn’t, but Gruden is the subject at hand).

    If the poor drafts in Cleveland were his doing and his doing only (and I honestly don’t know if they were or were not), Belichick obviously learned a LOT about talent acquisition while he was winning with the Parcells-influenced roster(s). I just can’t see any way Gruden’s performance stacks up to that of Belichick.

    Gruden’s got a shot at redemption here. He’s already taken apart big pieces of what he inherited and with his contract, I would think he’ll be given ample time and opportunity to build exactly what he wants to build. If what he builds turns out to be a winner remains to be seen.

  28. It’s easy to kick the Raiders and Gruden now for seemingly terrible trades, getting rid of one of the best defenders in the league, the awful record, non-development of his QB, etc. Let’s give him a few years to mold the team into his vision. He was able to swindle Mark Davis into a 10 year contract, so clearly the plan was to fleece the fans and taxpayers in Oakland during obvious rebuilding years for the future. If in 3-4 years the Raiders are still a dumpster fire, then we can give Gruden and Mark Davis all the scorn and laughter.

  29. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    December 21, 2018 at 10:54 am

    If the poor drafts in Cleveland were his doing and his doing only (and I honestly don’t know if they were or were not), Belichick obviously learned a LOT about talent acquisition while he was winning with the Parcells-influenced roster(s). I just can’t see any way Gruden’s performance stacks up to that of Belichick.

    Gruden’s got a shot at redemption here. He’s already taken apart big pieces of what he inherited and with his contract, I would think he’ll be given ample time and opportunity to build exactly what he wants to build. If what he builds turns out to be a winner remains to be seen.

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    Mike Lombardi was there working with Belichick. Previously Lombardi worked with Bill Walsh on the 49ers drafts as a scout. They had great success. Following Cleveland, Lombardi had one of the best drafts in 1998 with the Eagles. Drafting 4 Pro Bowlers and bringing in another for a 2nd and 5th round pick. Setting the table for the Eagles 4 Super Bowl appearances under Andy Reid. Belichick would have had to have had a good bit of influence defensively in bringing the 3-4 to Cleveland. And Belichick must have had a lot of respect for Lombardi in recently hiring him for a few years in New England.

    Gruden had his imprint over about 5 drafts in Tampa. Aqib Talib and Cadillac Williams were his best scores. But what goes unnoticed by many is that Gruden wasn’t really allowed to rebuild the aging Bucs team. As they spent the least amount of money on their players of any NFL team during Gruden’s last 5 years there. We’ll see what he can do with a stacked (draft) deck for the Raiders in the next few years. I’m hoping we can get a at least two of these (CB Greedy Williams, T Dalton Risner, WR Marquise Brown) guys with our three 1st round picks this year.

  30. If Gruden somehow (although unlikely) gets the Raiders to 9-7 or 10-6 in his 4th year after averaging perhaps 4 wins per season in his first 3 years, then I fail to understand how that is somehow “better” than Del Rio who went 7-9 and 12-4 in his first 2 years after taking over a 3-13 team.

  31. Gruden’s motto: If you can’t dazzle em with brilliance, baffle em with BS. Looks like it works since he walks away with a minimum of 25 mil from this gig he’s got going.

  32. Nathan Peterman…!!!??? As a Bills fan , I can tell you that Peterman made EJ Manuel look like a pro bowler (and, in fact Manuel is a nuch better player than Peterman). 60 years a football fan and I’ve never seen any QB as bad as Peterman. Now, I know that Gruden’s ego has surpassed his coaching talents. Good Luck Raiders…you’re gonna need it.

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