New coach is expected in Denver

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The Denver Broncos stand one loss away from the franchise’s first consecutive losing seasons since 1971-72. And that apparently will be enough to get G.M. John Elway to make a change.

Unless Elway changes his mind (which is always possible), coach Vance Joseph’s tenure as the head coach is expected to end after only two years, per a league source.

Elway reportedly considered firing Joseph and hiring Mike Shanahan a year ago. The fact that the story emerged two days after the Broncos picked up their eighth loss of the season could be regarded as a sign that it was deliberately leaked now as an indication that Elway once again is seriously contemplating a new coach.

The next coach will be the fourth coach hired by Elway since arriving in 2011 to assume control of the football operation in Denver. John Fox took the team to a Super Bowl. His successor, Gary Kubiak, won a Super Bowl. After Kubiak retired for health reasons, Elway hired Joseph, who had been a finalist when Kubiak got the job.

But Joseph has struggled, generating a record of 11-19 through 30 games. And now Elway, who benefits from an unsettled ownership structure that has no specific owner in place and in turn no traditional oversight or accountability from above, will need to hire someone else.

Maybe Mike Shanahan.

78 responses to “New coach is expected in Denver

  1. To Vance’s credit, Elway hasn’t given him much to work with especially at the most important position, QB. They should have drafted Josh Rosen.

  2. Elway went out and signed “Case Keesum” as his franchise Q. Than Joseph takes the fall.

    As a Vikings fan? I love me some Keenum, however, ill take Cousins>Keenum all day every day and 100000000x on Sunday.

  3. While I do think VJ needs to go, he is not the only reason this team was failing. Players giving up, poor drafting before VJ got there, and picking up FA that didn’t fit the team or were just a cheaper option but not the best option. So basically Elway has a lot to do with how poor this team has been doing.

  4. “To Vance’s credit, Elway hasn’t given him much to work with especially at the most important position, QB. They should have drafted Josh Rosen.”

    Oh, yeah, Rosen’s been amazing…

  5. good. VJ is a good guy but not a good coach. Takes zero risks, and then takes dumb risks to overcompensate.

    Get on that Harbaugh train, Elway

  6. I feel bad for Broncos fans. They actually deserve better than this. They’re nice people and great hosts.

    However as a division rival I hope Elway runs the franchise for 20 more years. He started off hot and then has just driven the team into the dirt.

  7. There’s going to be a lot of competition this offseason amongst teams looking for head coaches. According to Peter King our team is one of the least desirable spots for available candidates.

    For any HC candidates reading this. The Tampa Bay area has the best weather out of most all NFL teams. We are close to the beach and have a lot of water activities around here. If you’re into fishing and outdoor recreation this is the place for you. If you’re into indoor recreation, this area has the most Gentlemen’s clubs per capita than any other city in the US (not endorsing that, but just saying).

    We have a real cool stadium that has a pirate ship with live cannons. You won’t get that in Cleveland. The ownership here will spend money on players, they just don’t know what they are doing when it comes to hiring the right people. If you’re truly a strong candidate maybe you can be that nut to them being blind squirrels.

    All of the above should make you overlook Jameis Winston and our ugly jerseys with digital clock number fonts. We’ve had those jerseys for 5 years now and according to NFL rules they can be changed after 5 years. Maybe you can talk to the right person to have normal looking numbers put back on our jerseys. As for Jameis Winston, you can fix him right?

  8. This was a “spur” of the moment decision. They need to quit horsing around in Denver. Elway is going to really have to “pony” up if he wants a good coach. Whomever it is will definitely be financially “stable” after that deal gets done.

    Thank you Ill show myself out now.

  9. Elway deflecting from his own failures.
    Went all in with unrealistic contracts to get a SB for Noodle Arm. Elway knew full-well it wasn’t in the long-term interest of the team. Now they are reaping what they sowed.

  10. I will add to the comments about the Bucs….HAVE to get full control of personal and draft…Have to get rid of Winston….Have to go back to the throwback Bucco Bruce and the great orange jerseys.

  11. There has not been 2 consecutive losing seasons for Denver in nearly FIFTY YEARS?!?! Jeeze no wonder there are so many Denver haters on here. They way people talk, you’d think the Broncos have been as bad as the 20 something franchises that are truly awful

  12. I love how this article say Kubiak won a Superbowl. Yeah but who was the QB? Compared to the guys who Vance has had to put under center. Elway can change coaches all he wants but if he doesn’t give the coach top talent, he will be looking for another coach soon.

  13. And yet again, the black coach is taking the blame for the failures of the white GM. Denver would never fire a white coach who did the same job as Joseph did, they’d be like “[white coach] needs time to implement his system with his players.”

  14. “Pretty ironic that Elway apparently has no idea what a good QB look like.”

    Brock Osweiler in the 2nd round.

    Paxton Lynch in the 1st round.

    Case Keenum with a big FA deal.

    Elway might as well do the only thing that worked for him before and sign an aging Manning.

  15. As an AFCW rival fan, I hope that Elway brings back Shanahan. It would mess up the Broncos as Son-of-Al screwed up the Raiders by bringing back Gruden (although the Gruden hiring would still be the worse of the two).

    Misery loves company…

  16. Elway’s a fraud. He and Broncos only got those 2 SBs courtesy of twice exceeding the then $57M cap by $29M! – each time!! – to keep him and his star players sweet (as well as other rule-breaking contract end-date violations). Maybe Elway needs a coach who can look the other way.

  17. The Vikings options were Sam Bradford and Teddy Bridgewater both with serious injury considerations, Case Keenum, and Kirk Cousins. Yet everyone thinks paying Kirk Cousins $500k a year more than Jimmy G was the wrong choice…

  18. “The next coach will be the fourth coach hired by Elway since arriving in 2011…”

    Maybe that says more about the GM than the coaching choices? The risk in hiring a former legendary franchise player to be the GM– it rarely works.

  19. Elway got lucky at the start. Had a great defence and the “Brain” aka noodle arm for a couple of years. Now he is finding how tough it is. It won’t belong before somebody is firing him.

  20. briang123 says:
    December 20, 2018 at 2:00 pm
    And yet again, the black coach is taking the blame for the failures of the white GM. Denver would never fire a white coach who did the same job as Joseph did, they’d be like “[white coach] needs time to implement his system with his players.”

    Josh McDaniels?

  21. Mr. Wright 212 says:
    December 20, 2018 at 1:41 pm
    Another Black coach expected to work magic with a garbage team.

    YAWN.

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    Bruh, I’m black and this is tired, even for me. Just about every coach is expected to work magic with a garbage team and of the new head coaches he was hired with in 2017, he might be the only one that hasn’t worked magic. The rest went to the playoffs or are going this year. (except Shanahan but Jimmy G’s injury hurt them)

  22. Really, what if you like to ski or snowmobile ride?
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    You take a vacation to a cold destination like Whistler, BC. The rest of the year you get to enjoy nice sunny weather without having to worry about shoveling your driveway and freezing your butt off most days.

  23. Elway wanted a Shanahan Cousins deal. Ellis overruled him. Elway had to settle for Keenum. Elway doesn’t have final say, Ellis does. Briang123, race isn’t a issue everytime a black man is involved. Only racists view the world like that.

  24. Probably time for Elway to go. He won a Super Bowl with a who’s who of coaches and every free agent player he could buy. His best draft choice is the guy he didn’t even draft (Lindsay). Signing Keemun was an ok move, but insisting on sticking with Lynch and Crazy Eyes Kelly as development projects will cost them in the long run. Mike “blame everyone but me” Shanahan isn’t the answer, either.

  25. While they’re getting rid of things, can they please get rid of that ridiculous “In-Com-Plete” chant. I just saw the play, I don’t need everyone shouting it.

  26. Mr. Wright 212 says:

    December 20, 2018 at 1:41 pm

    Another Black coach expected to work magic with a garbage team.

    YAWN.

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    Man, I’m black but VJ is TRASH

  27. The Elway bashers have set their standards way too high or are spoiled. Dude is 78-48 with a Super Bowl win, two Super Bowl appearances, and five playoff appearances in eight seasons as an executive. *He’s reached the Super Bowl in 25% of his executive seasons*! What reasonably more can you expect?

  28. Jacksonville – Dave Caldwell along with Doug Marrone knew Blake Bortles has been trash for years. Keeping him on the roster and paying him that BIG contract in the offseason was stupid.

  29. This is gonna be interesting….

    CLE- Hue Jackson
    DEN- Vance Joseph
    ARZ- Steve Wilks
    NYJ- Todd Bowles
    CIN- Marvin Lewis

    All will be fired at seasons end

    Notice anything similar? Stephen A. Smith head will explode on Black Monday screaming privilege.

    Yet I do agree Black HC aren’t enough in NFL but Hue was AWFUL, Bowles is pathetic, Marvin hasn’t won a playoff game in 1000 years. Wilks ARZ team is terrible and finally Vance Joseph maybe can earn himself another year but theyre a bad team yet again. I probably would give him 1 more year to make playoffs.

  30. With the unsettling situation at ownership and having no QB good luck getting anyone outside of the organization any better than Joseph. This franchise is a mess

  31. I love how this article say Kubiak won a Superbowl. Yeah but who was the QB? Compared to the guys who Vance has had to put under center. Elway can change coaches all he wants but if he doesn’t give the coach top talent, he will be looking for another coach soon.

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    Peyton did nothing in SB 50 (except not turn the ball over). The offense had a record low of 192 yards for a winner. That game was won by Wade Phillips and the defense.

  32. briang123 says:
    December 20, 2018 at 2:00 pm
    And yet again, the black coach is taking the blame for the failures of the white GM. Denver would never fire a white coach who did the same job as Joseph did, they’d be like “[white coach] needs time to implement his system with his players.”
    I’m not sure how you came to this conclusion, especially with the Broncos. John Fox was fired after 4 years (after bringing the team to the super bowl) and Josh McDaniels was fired before the completion of his second year. And let’s not forget Wade Phillips lasted only one year.
    Something tells me race is not the motivation here but rather a person not meeting expectations.

  33. “According to Peter King our team [Bucs] is one of the least desirable spots for available candidates.”
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    He isn’t wrong!

    The Glazers family will hire low hanging fruit as HC and toss them in 2 years.
    Their GMs haven’t exactly built the greatest of roster.
    Their culture is one of losing and isn’t easily changed.
    The biggest blemish of all – Jameis Winston {a qb to avoid because of off field antics and on field turn-over woes}…
    In the NFC South where they have been the basement team 8-11 years…

    Any coach forced to fix JW is accepting a future losing record on their resume..

  34. td30 says:

    December 20, 2018 at 1:36 pm

    good. VJ is a good guy but not a good coach. Takes zero risks, and then takes dumb risks to overcompensate.

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    Wait if he takes ZERO risks then how could he then later take dumb risks?

  35. If this happens the Broncos should bring back the greatest coach in their history- Mike Shanahan. Also, trade or sign Nick Mullens.

  36. Joe Ellis hired McDaniels and veto’d a Shanahan return with Cousins. Whether you like bringing Shanahan back or not, why is Ellis who really knows nothing about football, dictating who Elway can or can’t hire?

  37. Don’t believe it’s Case. He’s not elite but solid. Bronc’s have some outstanding players but didn’t seem to gel this year. They beat the LA Chargers so that shows some potential. Maybe the problem is Joseph.

  38. Pretty ironic that Elway apparently has no idea what a good QB look like.

    Haha I guess Peyton Manning was not very good, easy to say get a good qb, harder to actually get one. Real Broncos fans know it was not going to be easy to replace Manning.

  39. He really hasn’t had a great QB, but with how Doug Petersen, Frank Reich, Sean McVey, and Mike Nagy have done, it’s going to be the new trend. Hire a great offensive mind that can coach QBs. Adam Gase was the QB guru when he was hired. If Tannehill didn’t have so many injuries, his tenure could look different right now. Moving forward, defensive coaches probably won’t get the chance to a head coach, unless there is already an established QB in place.

  40. briang123 says:
    December 20, 2018 at 2:00 pm

    And yet again, the black coach is taking the blame for the failures of the white GM. Denver would never fire a white coach who did the same job as Joseph did, they’d be like “[white coach] needs time to implement his system with his players.”
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    Wrong, race baitor. Vance Joseph will be given 4 more games than Josh McDaniels got. McDaniels went 11-17 and Joseph currently sits at 11-19 with 2 games to go.

  41. While Joseph wasn’t given much on offense to work with, he was a bad head coach. He reminds me of a high school coach that goes to a coaching clinic/conference and comes back using a bunch of dumb acronyms as motivational tools. Problem is: That junk doesn’t work on grown men. Joseph had/has zero feel for the game judging by his terrible sideline decisions. He’s got to go and Elway needs to hire a QB guru, especially if he’s gonna keep whiffing on QBs.

  42. Joe Ellis hired McDaniels and veto’d a Shanahan return with Cousins. Whether you like bringing Shanahan back or not, why is Ellis who really knows nothing about football, dictating who Elway can or can’t hire?
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    Because Ellis is one of the three trustees of the Bowlen Trust which is collectively controlling ownership, Ellis has more power than Elway.

  43. “They should have drafted Josh Rosen.”
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    The Cardinals are likely secretly wishing the Broncos had taken Josh Rosen. That kid isn’t going to make it.

  44. I advocated for Vance Joseph until the Browns game. Everyone on Broncos Twitter thought I was stupid and it turns out they were right. I just cannot defend the indefensible. That 4th down decision to kick the field goal and make it a 17-16 game with a beleaguered and injury-ravaged defense was utter foolishness.

  45. They never should have hired VJ. Questionable character after the incident in college, where he apologized for what happened, but denied wrongdoing. Why apologize for something you didn’t do? Never liked him for that.

  46. Really, what if you like to ski or snowmobile ride?
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    You take a vacation to a cold destination like Whistler, BC. The rest of the year you get to enjoy nice sunny weather without having to worry about shoveling your driveway and freezing your butt off most days.

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    Florida is a beautiful state, awesome beaches, warm and sunny most days, more than one team to root for, etc. But it is hot and muggy as a steam room, alligators chase your kids around the yard, and snakes the size of trees eat your dog. Colorado has frequent 70 degree days in winter, cool, crisp air, low humidity, gorgeous mountains to explore and trails to hike, bike, ski, snowboard, and snowmobile, and wonderful little mountain towns to explore. Both states love their football and the Broncos have the altitude advantage. So I think both states have a lot to offer a new coach.

  47. If you were a head coach candidate would you want to work for Elway, hell no! It’s time for that poor excuse for a GM to be replaced. Just look at these blunders:
    Bungled Deals: Osweiler, Dumervil, …

    Wasted draft picks:
    1st Paxton Lynch
    3rd Carlos Henderson
    2nd Ty Sambrailo
    2nd Montee Ball
    2nd Brock Osweiler

    Nobody has hurt the Broncos more, he has got to go!

  48. For all of the Elway bashers, please name another GM that has a better record for Super Bowls and playoff games in the last 7 years besides Belichek. If Elway is #2 next to BB, I’ll take that.

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