Will the Giants move on from Odell Beckham?

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When last we saw Giants receiver Odell Beckham, he was making a business decision on an onside kick that ultimately saw the Bears force overtime in New Jersey. The Giants may now have a business decision to make about Odell Beckham.

Pat Leonard of the New York Daily News raises the question of whether it’s time for the Giants to move on, even though only four months ago they signed him to a long-term deal.

Ordinarily an inconceivable proposition for a guy who had just signed a multi-year, big-money contract, the fumes of that goofy ESPN interview from early October linger. In a bizarre sit-down with a bemused Lil’ Wayne at Beckham’s side, Beckham took a shot at quarterback Eli Manning and answered the anything-but-yes-means-no question of whether Beckham is happy in New York by saying, “That’s a tough question.”

And so it now could be time for the Giants to face some hard truths. Beckham already may be more trouble than he’s worth, and if another team thinks they can get more worth than trouble out of Beckham, then maybe a trade will happen.

Last year, the Rams seemed to be hot on Beckham’s trail in late March, before L.A. landed Brandin Cooks. This year, as the records reset to 0-0 and after the coaching carousel whirs to a conclusion and teams hope to start building hope for 2019, maybe some other coach will think he can bend Beckham in the right direction, harnessing his skills while minimizing any potential distractions he may create.

It would result in a $16 million cap charge for the Giants in 2019, but it would clear $16.75 million in guaranteed salary off the books. And it would give Beckham’s new team a five-year, $74 million arrangement, a $14.8 million annual average which compares very favorably to the market.

Sure, the Giants would have to swallow the fact that they will have paid Beckham more than $21 million for 12 games in 2018, but if they can wave around a first-round pick plus something more than that, maybe it will have been worth it. It ultimately will be an ownership call, but after a full year of working with Beckham, coach Pat Shurmur and G.M. Dave Gettleman surely have enough information to make with confidence a decision as to whether Beckham is the right guy to help the Giants move forward, given that the team has only one playoff appearance — the one-and-out Miami boat trip game at Lambeau Field — to show for Beckham’s five NFL seasons.

66 responses to “Will the Giants move on from Odell Beckham?

  1. Giants can look in their own division to see the difference a #1 receiver makes to an offense. A receiver like Beckham draws coverage and opens up the running game, even if he’s a head case..

  2. IMO, the Giants were better without him. When he’s playing he demands so much attention that it seems they force the ball to him. When he was out they spread it around a bit and actually seemed more competitive. I think he’s such a diva that despite his ability and stats he actually holds the team back.

  3. Of course they should, in fact, every team should move on from people like him. NFL and the world need more Russell Wilson’s than Bryant’s and Beckham’s.

  4. There is absolutely no way that Mara and his New York ego will ever trade Beckham this quick and admit what a huge mistake it was to sign him. As a Cowboy fan I am glad, because no matter what Beckham brings to the field, what he does to the locker room will cancel it out.

  5. Pat Leonard is dopey. The Giants cannot get much in a trade for OBJ as his cap numbers and dead mpney are through the roof. If the Giants were to trade him it would have been before they signed him for almost $100 million.

  6. I get many don’t like Beckham(and some valid reasons why), however, football is not a sport where it matters if your liked. Beckham is a very good if not great WR (tough to admit as a Cowboys fan), but it is true, he routinely beats single coverage and sometimes double coverage. He is missing a QB, and he has been missing one for the majority of his career.

  7. joshr99164 says:
    December 29, 2018 at 11:40 am
    Giants can look in their own division to see the difference a #1 receiver makes to an offense. A receiver like Beckham draws coverage and opens up the running game, even if he’s a head case..

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    No doubt, but this is one of those situations where you have to look at your net not your gross.

  8. Beckham was and is a “head case.” Why teams keep throwing money at these guys is not too smart. No matter how good the athlete seems to be, it’s not worth the negative impact on the team nor any teams business model for success. It’s not worth the risk.

  9. 95 mil for a guy who is hurt 95% of the time. Alas, there are enough dumb franchises out there that would give up a lot for him. Hope so.
    Signed, life long Giants fan.

  10. Buffalo and Jets each have about $90 million in cap space this offseason, both are desparte for WR talent, and this isnt a great WR draft class. Theres no way the Giants would trade him to the Jets but sending him out of the conference to the Bills would make sense.
    Last year the Browns got Jarvis landry for a 2018 4th and a 2019 7th. If I’m the Bills I’d give some serious thought to giving the Giants a 2 this year & a 2020 3 for Becham

  11. The answer is to sign Eli to a 6 year extension. Because nothing screams of being held hostage more than talking up that weak armed old glue horse. Meanwhile, all these young fleet of foot QBs are breathing life into other organizations.

  12. Stuck with Eli… no “backup” plan. Best hope would be to restructure his ridiculous contract and draft a potential successor or pickup a decent free agent who won’t mind getting killed behind that o line. Really liked Stidham, Auburn,yesterday (first half; 300+ yards, 5 passing tds, strong arm, 56 points). Mercifully the coaches took his foot off the gas in the second half. Dungy, Syracuse showed well also. Both would look good holding the Giants clipboard for a season.

  13. Whenever trade discussions come up, people always seem to forget that that a player’s value is directly tied to his contract status.

    That is why an unproven, free-agent-to be Jimmy G. was worth only a 2nd round pick, and why no one with a brain in their head is giving up two #1 picks for the right to pay a receiver 14 mil a year for 5 years.

  14. Let me see Gettleman is the GM right? Hmmm as GM for the Panthers, he cut Steve Smith (bad move), as Smitty was a playmaker, Gman then rescinded the contact on Josh Norman another Panther playmaker……… odds are OBJ is done as a Giant!

  15. The way I see it is if Giants were in the playoffs right mow he would play but no sense in playing guys that matter even Eli needs to sit to get the back ups some work to see what you have.

  16. I’d be very concerned with the coke on the boat incident. Not only for Beckham putting a possible target on his back via NFL drug testing. But also for Beckham’s stupidity in doing so. Who is to say Beckham won’t slip up like this again? Otherwise I’d say the Raiders should offer up the Bears 1st round pick in the 2019 draft for him.

  17. Lol… there’s not a prayer the Giants trade him…. & hopefully there’s not another franchise out there foolish enough to trade away a first rounder as well as assume his massive salary……
    They Giants made this bed & now they have to sleep in it!!!

  18. I think Chucky should trade for Beckham and “Restart” him while he is “Restarting” Nate Petermann…..

  19. They should get rid of him, he quit on his team over a thigh bruise. Thigh bruises last about a week. The guy is lying about his “injury” and his teammates know it.

  20. Cut Eli Manning, get Beckham a top 30 NFL starting quarterback and I guarantee that his antics will go down.

  21. sportoficionado says:
    December 29, 2018 at 12:07 pm

    He is missing a QB, and he has been missing one for the majority of his career.

    >>>OK so looking back now and having the benefit of hindsight(knowing how these QB drafted in the 1st round and the QBs acquired through FA performed since Beckham was drafted) exactly who do you think they should have drafted that’s better than Eli and remember they had the 9th pick in 2015, the 10th in 2016, 23rd in 2017 and 2nd in 2018? Or who should they have gotten through FA that’s better than Eli? While it’s very easy to say they need a different(better) QB it’s something totally different to actually get one with the major problem being there are very few good/great QBs in the NFL, they’re very hard to find and even harder to get. And while it’s also easy to say “they should have moved up” its very hard to put together something where the team you’re trying to move up with will actually think is a good enough deal and it’s worth missing out on the player they want to take that deal.

    I don’t see a QB out there that would have been available to the Giants either at their pick or in FA that would have been an improvement over Eli, NOT A ONE! And while a lot of people think Eli is terrible he’s actually a top 15 QB this year with his major problem being his TD-INT ratio and the amount of sacks(46 so far) he’s taken. His other numbers are 66.5%comp ratio, 3998 passing yards and the two bad stats 19TD-10INT with 46 sacks and both of them can be attributed to the poor O-line.

    So while it’s easy to say “they need to get rid of Eli” or “they need a better QB”, like I always ask “and get who exactly”?

    BTW To your last comment “He is missing a QB, and he has been missing one for the majority of his career.” = Well so are about 1/2 the teams in the NFL, that should tell you how few there actually are and how much harder it is to get one! Like it or not Eli was there best option since OBJ has been there and sadly he probably will be again next year as this is a razor thin QB class coming out in 2019.

  22. He may be a top receiver but he sure did have a hard time catching the ball in his only playoff appearance. I would trade him in a heartbeat if the return haul was respectable. With a better line and a top running game they would do fine with Shepherd, Ingram and a solid supporting cast.

  23. sportoficionado says:
    December 29, 2018 at 12:07 pm
    I get many don’t like Beckham(and some valid reasons why), however, football is not a sport where it matters if your liked. Beckham is a very good if not great WR (tough to admit as a Cowboys fan), but it is true, he routinely beats single coverage and sometimes double coverage. He is missing a QB, and he has been missing one for the majority of his career

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    bledsoe, mcnabb, jeff garcia, etc. TO was able to dominate no matter who the qb was. thats what OBJ is being paid so much to do. dominate in that fashion. but he hasnt. TO may have been a headache, but he was a competitor to the core. OBJ isnt. stop making excuses.

  24. “but if they can wave around a first-round pick plus something more than that, maybe it will have been worth it”

    You’d have to be nuts to give up a first round pick and take on Beckham’s salary given how much of a head case he is.

  25. I don’t think the Giants can feasibly move on so quickly after giving him that big new contract. They have no choice but to try and make it work for the time being.

  26. They should have thought about that before giving him all that money. He was already a handful. Did they think it would get better after giving him a truckload of money? Duh. I’ll be surprised if they move him. First, like someone else already mentioned, it would mean admitting they made a ($103M+) mistake. That’s not likely. PLus, if they think they’re going to get something for him they are mistaken. They might get a conditional pick but I wouldn’t give any more than that. In fact, they might have to do what Houston did to get rid of Osweiler and send a draft pick to another team to get them to take him. He would be worth the $14.8M annual salary if not for all the headaches he causes.

    If the Giants are really tired of him they could cut him and just eat all the money. However, that would be in the $35M neighborhood. After 2019 though that number would drop substantially because only $2.75M of his contract is guaranteed. Then the cap charge would only be $14.75M. I can’t imagine he would be picked up on waivers with that salary. What the Giants could do is tell him if he doesn’t straighten up he can kiss the remaining amount of his contract goodbye. I doubt that would work though because of OBJs lack of maturity and awareness.

    The Giants have themselves a mess. A mess they caused. A mess they could have avoided last off-season. A mess they probably won’t be able to get rid of until at least after next season.

  27. Who wants to deal with a side show, While paying him millions to sit on the sideline because he can’t stay healthy?

    The Giants are likely stuck with Beckham.

    Besides, We have only seen him play with one QB… Who’s to say the QB didn’t make the WR? Maybe If Beckham was paired with a Carr, Winston or Tannehill he might have never seen that 74M contract in the first place.

  28. I lost all respect for OBJ over his party boat episode with Justin Bieber a couple years ago. Could a grown man embarrass himself any more than that? I think not.

  29. If NY really was serious about winning over admitting the mistake of not trading him while the value was higher..They would trade him. The have a RB now that can control games. They are building their line up, and they have a WR (Shepard) who can more then do the job. If they can can get a #1 for him (I doubt they can but….) Or even a couple #2’s and, Maybe a #4 or so. Trade the headache. The bounty and cap savings can bring them back to relevence again. As an Eagles fan I hope they keep him.

  30. Probably 28 teams would love to have him, including the Patriots.
    OBJs yearly cost (minus the bonus which the Giants eat) in MM/year
    17 – 2019
    14.25
    15.75
    15
    15 – 2023

    Would I give up a #1 for that? Yes

  31. Pat Leonard is the guy who breathlessly informed all of us during training camp that Beckham would be traded before the start of the season.

    It’s easy to be in the media. There’s no scoreboard to maintain an account of your foolishness and stupidity.

    The chances of Odell Beckham being traded in the offseason are exactly nothing.

  32. The Giants have clearly been a better side since the diva got (supposedly) injured. Enough said.

  33. Who was the last team to boast a top 5 receiver and win the superbowl?
    Serious question. it almost never happens. Beckham is a clown and a distraction. As a Cowboys fan, I hope he stays in New Jersey. They’ll never win with him.

  34. @ spillertime21,

    “Theres no way the Giants would trade him to the Jets but sending him out of the conference to the Bills would make sense.”

    Uhhhhhh, l guess you don’t realize the Jets are out of the conference too, swifty. The Giants are NFC, the Jets AFC.

    Trading him is becoming more imminent, especially after he is STILL not happy after his payday. Typical diva behavior.

    Beckham is a talent, but is not worth the trouble. Great players elevate those around them. Beckham doesn’t do that, and as such he certainly is not a great player. The great Jack Ham once said, “greatness needs no self-promotion”. That pretty much sums it up.

    Beckham got paid, and now the diva is bashing Eli. Larry Fitzgetald, come and school this punk on how to be a true teammate and team player!

  35. More ridiculous than the Raiders trading Carr this year. I wish these people would educate themselves on the dead cap ramifications of these silly, fake trades. SPOTRAC is a great source.

  36. I love those who still believe in this fool. “Draws coverage and open the running game”. And how far has that gotten you this year?

    Everybody but SOME fans in NY and the dope that wrote this contract knows this guy is trouble and after the Gordon snafu in NE even they wouldn’t touch him.

    Good luck with your double coverage and the ability to open up the run game. Happy 4-12.

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