Adam Thielen, Kirk Cousins had a “good conversation” on sideline

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The Vikings settled for a field goal at the end of the first half when quarterback Kirk Cousins failed to connect with wide receiver Adam Thielen on a third down in Chicago territory.

After the play, cameras caught Thielen and Cousins engaged in an animated conversation on the sideline that included Cousins appearing to show Thielen how he wanted him to run a route. After the season-ending 24-10 loss, both players downplayed any notion of difficulties between them.

Cousins said he “liked the passion back and forth” and wanted to have more conversations like the one that Thielen characterized in a positive light.

“It was a little frustration on myself for not getting open and a little frustration with not getting opportunities,” Thielen said, via the Pioneer Press. “It definitely wasn’t anything with Kirk. It actually turned out to be a good conversation. We talked a lot about what I could’ve done better and what we could’ve done in the second half to exploit their defense. That’s the great thing about this team. Nobody is taking anything personal. I had to run a better route there. It is what it is.”

There figure to be a lot of conversations around the Vikings in light of their failure to make the playoffs a year after losing in the NFC title game. It’s likely some will get even more heated than the one on the sideline this Sunday.

67 responses to “Adam Thielen, Kirk Cousins had a “good conversation” on sideline

  1. Adam – get used to it. Vikes got rid of Keenum because he couldn’t get them past the NFC championship game and brought in a guy who can’t get you to the playoffs. You got two more years of watching Kirk try not to lose in big games.

  2. As a professional lip-reader, I could clearly see that Thielen said to Cousins “We’re paying you $84 million to play like this?”

  3. Some team was going to be dumb enough to pay him. Congratulations Vikings. You win…and you lose. You’re also stuck with that for two more years. Great signing.

  4. ackattack22 says:
    December 30, 2018 at 10:04 pm
    As a professional lip-reader, I could clearly see that Thielen said to Cousins “We’re paying you $84 million to play like this?”

    I’ll stand corrected but, I thought he said, “Boy!……you really suck! I was wide open, Case would have put it right on me!”
    not sure what that meant……..?

  5. joecancun says:
    December 30, 2018 at 10:03 pm

    A good conversation would be “Kirk, you suck”
    ————————————————

    No. That would be a truthful one!

  6. Vikings should get rid of Zimmer. How many guys have left or gotten fired from his staff? Guy is a man child and a baby. After you get rid of him, fire the doofus that decided to pay Cousins 80 million

  7. Cousins sucks, and we won’t be contenders until he is gone. Spielman should be fired for giving this guy 84m guaranteed when he has never won a meaningful game in his career.

  8. Harsh to blame the coach or the players, they weren’t the ones who gave $84 million to Cousins and put the team in salary cap jail.

  9. I would rather have these guys have a good conversation that might hurt some feelings, than having Hall of Fame QB getting even more money and not even having a chance for the postseason.

    Keenum found lightning in a bottle last season on an easy schedule that exposed him in the playoffs. I think Cousins is at fault partly for this loss, but no QB is going to win with an offensive line that sucks.

  10. I wonder if zimmy is on the way out? They bent over giving him everything he wanted: new offensive line, new qb, new kickers, new o coach. When he barked they fed him. Now no playoffs with this defense and the pack and lions sucking? You can win with that maybe time to move on.

  11. The vikes obviously think that paying Cousins 84 mil would be enough for him to get them a Lombardi. Maybe the problem is the dummies need to pay him another 5-10 mil a year to get him to the point where he plays like a Super Bowl winning QB?

  12. People who say Zimmer should be fired are delusional. If you want to fire someone it should be Spielman. He is the one who signed cousins.

  13. Cousins is a well known choke artist… And , Zimmer for all his bluster isn’t actually a good head coach. But it’s Minnesota, same thing will happen next year.

  14. Minnesalty tears are so delicious this time of years. Thanks Kirk Cousins for being you…and Vikings fans…the wait continues and thanks for stinking it up against the Bears and getting us in..next year for you guys..lol..yeah right.

    FLY EAGLES FLY

  15. Funny how people thought the Cousins signing was part of some plan that would end with the Vikings hoisting a Lombardi trophy. Now people are talking about what a mistake it was to give Cousins 84 million guaranteed dollars. I was on record for thinking it was a mistake and how the Vikings should have kept Keenum.

  16. If you’d just spend a little more time practicing football and less time concocting new touchdown dances, perhaps you wouldn’t look so foolish arguing with your QB on national tv.
    But, as long as our clueless fans eat it up, right. SMH!

  17. Cousins bears a chunk of responsibility here, but that defense was rancid. Had the defense played up to the hype, they would have won three games that they lost.

    Just saying we need to point the finger at the real culprits of this meltdown.

  18. Cousins’ lifetime record against teams with winning records now a robust 5-25. He is quiclky earning a Bradfordesque reputation.

  19. I know it’s not going to happen but it’s time for Sloter, but Spielman will not admit he f#cked up. With Cousins signed they should have drafted offensive linemen but he didn’t he drafted defense, you signed a $84 million Quarterback without protecting him that’s really ignorant.

  20. Thielen was thinking, “and we paid this guy 84 million dollars and got rid of Case Keenum????”
    And Cousins was doing what he always does — look to blame someone else when it’s him that is stinking up the joint.
    I never thought I’d say Dan Snyder was smart at anything — but he was sure smart for not paying Kirk Cousins all that money the Vikings gave him!

  21. For a while midseason it looked like the Vikings would right the ship. It all went sideways in New England, when Belichik showed everyone that if you doubled Diggs and Theilan, no one else on that roster would hurt you.
    It isn’t often that you can put safeties over the top of both wideouts and not get killed by the tight end or running backs.
    Theilen complained about not getting “opportunities”. You don’t get those if you’re blanketed.
    Cousins struggles beating good teams because good teams pressure the quarterback, and he doesn’t handle pressure. When he feels any heat, he checks down. When there really is heat, he fails to spot the outlet.
    The video of him from the first quarter, 3rd and 5, open reciever across the middle and he throws low and away, taking his reciever to the ground short of the first down. In the replay you see as he’s releasing the ball he’s starting to crumpke, almost closing his eyes in anticipation of contact…that never comes.

  22. You fanboys are blaming the defence!!? Kirk didn’t get a first down until his 5th drive, the defence had to hold it together for the entire team.

    And you clueless dolts blaming the O-line, and giving Capatain Kirk a pass for ignoring his wide open check downs. He’s not a good QB. He pads his stats against bad teams and junktime in losses to good teams. Kirk is Fool’s Gold – and Minny you own him for 2 more years.

  23. For the record 5 other qbs make Cousins type money & none of them are in the playoffs so his salary has nothing to do with it. Poor coaching & poor line play are much more responsible. The Vikings Defense made no plays.

  24. It’s time to re-build. Spieldip, zimmer, the rest of the coaching staff – especially priefer, and cousins all have to go. Get a QB, re-build the OL, and defense and maybe we’ll be competitive in 3-5 years.

  25. Ripping your quarterback on the sideline? Me-first and selfish move. Vikings need to watch out for this, Thielen looked to be very upset with Kirk several times on the sideline this year. His actions were Odellish.

  26. For all of those people ripping the Skins for not giving Cousins a long term deal last year, today is Exhibit 1 as to why. Cousins again falls apart in a win and in game. Exhibit 2 is that the Skins ended up with the same record using 4 QBs this year that they had last year with Cousins. The Skins would certainly finished better had they not been so decimated at QB this year. It looks like the Skins made the right call and had they not lost their top 2 signal callers in a 2 week span, they probably could have made the playoffs this year without Cousins. But that’s an if. The reality is that even a healthy Cousins couldn’t direct a more balanced team to the playoffs than he had last year.

  27. Vikings deserve the season they got, to pay an underachieving QB that amount of money with no proven history of postseason play. They had a decent team last year and decided to scrap it.

  28. Cousins acts like a jerk. I can understand why the Redskins never believed in him. Don’t blame this on Zimmer. He didn’t sign Cousins or let the offensive line become a mess.

  29. So kirk is a little bit country and thielen is a little bit rock and roll? ha. I hate when people minimize and say “little”. It was s horrible showing for a big game , period! fire ricky spielman, trade cousins and eat 1/2 his salary. the smart? wilfs and ricky made a bad bad panicked decision.

  30. qckappa says:
    December 30, 2018 at 11:51 pm
    For the record 5 other qbs make Cousins type money & none of them are in the playoffs so his salary has nothing to do with it.
    //////
    Yes and no. I agree the entire qb salary issue is overblown in a league with an ever expanding cap.
    The $84 million is not the issue. The structure of his contract is the problem. It leaves no room for the team to adjust if Cousins plays badly going forward. The only option is pay him or cut him and eat a huge dead money sandwich.
    No cutting him and eating pro-rated signing bonus while getting out from under big out-year cap hits. Other quaterbacks have bigger contracts, but if they fall off the table their teams can staunch the bleeding a bit. Not so here.
    If you look at Cousins’ career, I think he has worked very hard to become the qb he has, but I think that’s all there is. He’s not going to get much if any better.
    Putting a better O line in front of him won’t help him handle pressure, get through his reads, Checkdown when he should, not when he percieves pressure. Maneuver in the pocket. Nope. He’s been around long enough, been coached up, worked hard and had weapons around him.
    That cake is baked.

  31. Vikings, wow. The gift that keeps on taking. And every year, I am always amazed at how the fans will trash the team now, but be back in 3 months talking about how great the team is going to be. Fascinating

  32. shlort says:
    December 30, 2018 at 11:08 pm
    Funny how people thought the Cousins signing was part of some plan that would end with the Vikings hoisting a Lombardi trophy. Now people are talking about what a mistake it was to give Cousins 84 million guaranteed dollars. I was on record for thinking it was a mistake and how the Vikings should have kept Keenum.
    ————
    And so was I.
    A Vikings fan.
    Spielman should be fired.
    Zimmer has one year to win a playoff a game or he’s done.
    And the new GM should draft a QB by round 2.

  33. Defense was missing Kendricks, Rhodes… & Sendejo – they didn’t get enough pressure on Trubisky but the game was lost with the Offensive ineptitude- nothing was set up – run/playaction/screens/slants – cousins throws were inaccurate all day – just didn’t have it. Agreed though – Oline has to be a priority in the offseason – I don’t know why we didn’t run two TE sets & utilize a fullback … love Zimmer but starting to question if he’s the guy. Go Vikes!!

  34. I’ve seen so many Vikings fans this past week post comments on here about how they couldn’t wait for the Vikings to end the Eagles season. They seemed to care more about that than actually making the playoffs. Well…at least you’ll still have the Eagles to root against in the playoffs! SKOL!

  35. Thielen found his big boy pants.

    At a really bad time. Cousins was right, and Thielen should’ve shut up and listened instead of showing the entire country how not to respect your quarterback and teammates.

  36. The blame for this mess lies firmly in Spieldope’s lap.
    To end the 2017 season with absolutely nobody under contract at the NFL’s most crucial position ( That would be the Quarterback, Barneys. )
    was inexcusable.

    Many Packer fans, including myself, pointed this out as the 2017 season began winding down, but the Barneys always assured us that there was a plan.

    It left the Vikings in an extremely vulnerable position, Cousins maximized that leverage into an NFL record breaking guarantee.
    A guarantee that now has this team stuck.
    Kirk Cousins is your Quarterback for the next two seasons.
    There’s no out, no trade on the horizon. Nothing.

    You can still seek retribution for this, though, and call for a change at GM.
    His shortsightedness let this team down.
    And he’s the sole individual that’s responsible for this mess.

  37. qckappa says:
    December 30, 2018 at 11:51 pm
    For the record 5 other qbs make Cousins type money & none of them are in the playoffs so his salary has nothing to do with it. Poor coaching & poor line play are much more responsible. The Vikings Defense made no plays.
    —————————————-

    How many of those 5 QB’s teams went 13-3 last year?

    Admit it, Cousins came into a very good situation and failed to elevate the play of the team. He’s not a leader, but a good stats guy. His fans always make excuses for his bad play and point to his QBR or something.

    Hard to excuse a lifetime 5-25 record against winning teams. How many of the other 5 have such an abysmal record?

  38. It’s clear to me know, after a year of ups and downs, mostly downs, that the Vikings signed Jay Cutler 2.0. The only good thing is we didn’t give up draft picks to get him, we just put the team in cap purgatory. Vikings have zero chance to go anywhere the next two years.

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