The playoffs are here, and legacies are on the line

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Twelve teams remain, with all of them hoping to get their fingerprints all over the iconic silver trophy that goes to the Super Bowl champion.

The victory changes teams, coaches, players, everyone. It makes legacies.

So with the 2018 playoffs starting, whose legacy benefits the most from a Super Bowl win? It’s a topic we discussed on Friday’s PFT Live. Check out what we had to say, and chime in with your own thoughts below.

Then, get ready to take in arguably the four best wild-card games since the NFL moved to the current format in 1990.

33 responses to “The playoffs are here, and legacies are on the line

  1. Neither of my fav teams made the playoffs this year. So, instead, I’m rooting for the Chiefs’ magical season to end how it should. Barring that, Philip Rivers joining the Super Bowl club would crown his tremendous career, and cement the 2004 QB draft class as the greatest of all time.

    Beyond that, puh-leeze anyone but the Ravens, Cowboys or Patriots.

  2. a super bowl win guarentees Phillip Rivers into the Hall of Fame. Right now he’s the only 1st roun Qb taken in 04 that doesnt have a ring like Eli and Big Ben.

  3. I’d like to see Phillip Rivers get the Lombardi. It would be what Tomlin would call “Football Justice”

  4. Agreed. Current season can’t affect retired players.

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    thecape15 says:
    January 5, 2019 at 4:31 pm
    Win or lose, the goat has already been established

  5. cobrala2 says:
    January 5, 2019 at 4:05 pm
    Whose legacy benefits most?

    Garrett/Jerry Jones
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    It certainly changes Garrett’s legacy, as a frequently used narrative would die.

    I don’t think those addicted to the narrative would be able to continue calling Garrett a puppet. If they wanted that to continue, they would then have to admit that Jerry is owner, GM, and Head Coach of a Super Bowl winner. Unpalatable, they would have to agree that Garrett is a SB winning coach.
    Jerry already has 3, 4 wouldn’t change his legacy much as the same people who blame Jerry for everything (from deflategate to the modern rules) would insist that Willie McClay built the team despite Jerry’s best efforts to screw it up.
    That last part would be fairly accurate save the ‘screw it up’ part.

  6. Patriots better get ready for the Ravens next week. Belichick better get the D ready to stop speedy #8 running all over.

    2009 REPEAT

  7. If the Patriots lose another Superbowl, Tom Brady will have lost as many as Jim Kelly. He would by tie as the most lossingness quarterback in NFL history. Is he still he goat?

  8. Got home and turned this game on and…

    This is the playoffs?

    This Houston vs. Colts game has the energy of a pre-season game. Houston crowd is dead. Get your team back in the game! Embarrassing.

    Players on both sides seem uninspired. Doesn’t help having the horrible ESPN coverage of the game. NFL playoff games should not be allowed on this has been network.

    At least these Long Islands and these chicken fajitas I am now downing in the sports/music cave are on point.

  9. 3 Colts could greatly improve their legacies. Frank Reich would go from being the fallback option to Josh McDaniels to a Super Bowl winner. Andrew Luck would put himself in the conversation with Johnny Unitas and Peyton Manning as greatest Colts QB, and Chris Ballard will show that he made the right decision in hiring Reich and put himself in the conversation with Bill Polian as the greatest Colts GM, although he and Reich still need to be consistent for several more years, but this would be a great start.

  10. Bubbalicious says:
    January 5, 2019 at 5:37 pm
    If the Patriots lose another Superbowl, Tom Brady will have lost as many as Jim Kelly. He would by tie as the most lossingness quarterback in NFL history. Is he still he goat?
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    I already don’t think he is the GOAT. First of all, I don’t believe in GOAT. Let’s see how we played in Montana’s era, when you could still hit a QB and DBs could actually hit someone. When falling on a QB during a sack wasn’t a 15-yard penalty. Plus…Tom Brady didn’t win Super Bowls, the Patriots did. And those defenses had a LOT to do with it. That legacy is Bill Belichick’s. He is the reason for a lot of people’s success on that team, including Brady’s.

    That said, that’s an interesting observation.

  11. Bubbalicious says:
    January 5, 2019 at 5:37 pm

    If the Patriots lose another Superbowl, Tom Brady will have lost as many as Jim Kelly. He would by tie as the most lossingness quarterback in NFL history.
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    If Brady loses another SB, it would mean that in the 9th best season of his career, he lost in the SB game. In the 9th best season of Joe Montana’s career, he did not even make the playoffs.

  12. Much tougher era in Montana’s day. QBs were done by their early to mid 30s and the 1980s NFC was far tougher than anything Brady’s faced.

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    carloswlassiter says:
    January 5, 2019 at 7:13 pm
    Bubbalicious says:
    January 5, 2019 at 5:37 pm

    If the Patriots lose another Superbowl, Tom Brady will have lost as many as Jim Kelly. He would by tie as the most lossingness quarterback in NFL history.
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    If Brady loses another SB, it would mean that in the 9th best season of his career, he lost in the SB game. In the 9th best season of Joe Montana’s career, he did not even make the playoffs.

  13. objectivefbfan says:
    January 5, 2019 at 6:39 pm
    Bubbalicious says:
    January 5, 2019 at 5:37 pm
    If the Patriots lose another Superbowl, Tom Brady will have lost as many as Jim Kelly. He would by tie as the most lossingness quarterback in NFL history. Is he still he goat?
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    I already don’t think he is the GOAT. First of all, I don’t believe in GOAT. Let’s see how we played in Montana’s era, when you could still hit a QB and DBs could actually hit someone. When falling on a QB during a sack wasn’t a 15-yard penalty. Plus…Tom Brady didn’t win Super Bowls, the Patriots did. And those defenses had a LOT to do with it. That legacy is Bill Belichick’s. He is the reason for a lot of people’s success on that team, including Brady’s.

    That said, that’s an interesting observation.
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    This is where your argument loses, Brady isn’t 25, he WAS around when you could hit the QB and defenses could play defense, and yes, he HAD a good defense too on his side. Defensive rule changes came in 2006, Brady had already won 3 SBs. He’s won in both ‘eras’ if you will. How would Montana have faired in a era or parity, a salary cap, and coaches getting purged constantly. And don’t forget the other great Bill, Bill Walsh, he basically invented the West Coast offense. Let’s not pretend Montana didn’t have a good coach, or teammates, or defense.
    Brady also threw for 350yds and 3 Tds vs Panthers and 234 and 2 TDs bs Eagles. And he was clutch in Rams win but stats were paltry for sure.

  14. las0023 says:
    January 5, 2019 at 7:48 pm

    Much tougher era in Montana’s day. QBs were done by their early to mid 30s and the 1980s NFC was far tougher than anything Brady’s faced.
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    Then of course you would argue that the league was much tougher when Bronco Nagurski played, right? Or are you saying that the 1980s-90s was the toughest ever of football ever played?

  15. Not sure about Bronko’s days but yes, the game was even tougher in the 60s and 70s. That’s why there is no GOAT. Only the greatest of their era.

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    Then of course you would argue that the league was much tougher when Bronco Nagurski played, right? Or are you saying that the 1980s-90s was the toughest ever of football ever played?

  16. Id say it would cement Andy Reid as one of the greatest coaches of all time and finish with a ring. However, what kind of Legacy would Nick Foles see if by chance he ran the Eagles back into the SuperBowl and WIN again. That would be one hell of a legacy that would be hard to surpass.

  17. “If the Patriots lose another Superbowl, Tom Brady will have lost as many as Jim Kelly. He would by tie as the most lossingness quarterback in NFL history. Is he still he goat?”

    Of course he is. He still has the most wins and I’ve never understood why people think sitting on your couch watching the big game is better than being in it and losing.

    Every loss the Pats have in the SB has been close to, they haven’t been blowouts they’ve still been great games.

  18. Brady will never call himself the GOAT and neither will Belichick call himself the greatest coach. That said, the attempts at diminishing their accomplishments are pathetic.

  19. rckymtnthnder17 says:
    January 6, 2019 at 12:57 am
    & for the chiefs, that’s a Legacy of Failure
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    Back to back losing seasons means your team is writing it’s own legacy of failure.

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