Josh McDaniels closes the door on leaving the Patriots, this year

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On Monday, the potential door to Green Bay closed on Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels. On Tuesday, McDaniels closed the door on leaving the Patriots, at least for this year.

After a conference call with reporters during which McDaniels said he won’t interview with any other teams during the 2019 cycle, McDaniels confirmed to Phil Perry of NBCSportsBoston.com that McDaniels will indeed stay put.

This year, McDaniels interviewed only with the Packers. The Browns reportedly were interested in McDaniels, and the interest reportedly was mutual. However, it appears that any interest will be going nowhere. (In theory, McDaniels presumably could have taken the Browns job without a formal interview; he previously interviewed for the job in 2014.)

PFT reported over the weekend, when McDaniels was still a viable candidate for the Green Bay job, that the Patriots were preparing for McDaniels to leave, either for Green Bay or Cleveland. The Patriots can now stop those preparations and focus exclusively on winning one or more (ideally, three) postseason games.

McDaniels wouldn’t have interviewed for the Packers job (or any other job) unless he had real interest in taking the job. McDaniels declined an opportunity to interview with the Bengals. None of the other teams with vacancies formally pursued him.

123 responses to “Josh McDaniels closes the door on leaving the Patriots, this year

  1. The Colts were fortunate McDaniels backed out on them. Frank Reich proves that the second or third option is sometimes the best option.

  2. McDaniels and the Patriots can deny it, but, there’s either a succession deal in place where Josh takes over when Belichik leaves — or, McDaniels is gambling that there is one.

  3. Seriously . . . McDaniels wouldn’t have interviewed for the job unless he had real interest. This about a man who actually INTERVIEWED and ACCEPTED a job that he later decided he had no interest.

    McDaniels has his sites set on the Patriot’s job. He interviews to keep his name out there.

  4. So now he is “enthusiastically interested” in staying home, as the league isn’t “Enthusiastically interested”in him. He burned all his bridges.

  5. This is what happens when you leave someone hanging. Only two teams were even interested in him, and one decided to go with someone with less experience.

  6. I came here to say what the first commenter said. McDaniels is the last guy I’d want in Cleveland. I’d rather have McCarthy, and I don’t really like him either.

  7. For those asking what happened to “enthusiastically interested”.

    According to McDanials he was enthusiastically interested in the Browns job the way I am enthusiastically interested in having a night with Halle Berry.

    Both parties have to feel the same way for it to work and Cleveland never called.

  8. This is the most biggest non-story since the “will Favre retire” pieces ESPN ran incessantly back in the day. Bottom line: who cares about McDaniels? He was a massive failure as a head coach. He left another team in the lurch by breaking his word. And, besides, NE Assistants don’t fare so well without The Genius running the show. Prediction: McDaniels will one day take over in New England, will bomb without Brady, and thereafter fall into obscurity as a quarterback coach in Cincy or some such place.

  9. Excellent! I guess one more full season of y’all claiming the sky is falling and Brady is toast (while they rack up another 10+ wins) is in the cards. Go Pats!

  10. McCarthy is “on hold” and McDaniels staying with New England? Sounds to me like Freddie Kitchens’s interview went really well and the position is in the process of being filled.

  11. He’ll be a failure when Brady/Belichick retire. It’ll be fun to watch.

    _________________________

    There it is…..the entire reason anyone tunes into this site; hate and jealousy

  12. Aarons444 says:
    If the football gods have a sense of humor, the Colts will be in the AFCC Game…
    _____________________________________________________________________

    Football Gods DEFINITELY have a sense of humor.

    The whole country STILL can’t stop Laughing at the swinging Gate play run by the Dolts…

    Pagano is getting play as a HC prospect too, which tells you all you need to know about the state of Head ‘Coaching’ in the NFL.

  13. Josh could not ask for a better organization than the Patriots—he is wise to stay.
    =====

    If he’s great, shouldn’t he be able to carve out a similar level of greatness elsewhere.

    .. or is it all Belichick and Brady?

    ( rhetorical question -)

  14. Is there any other record Belichek needs to break? Otherwise, it sounds like Josh is hanging around hoping that he’s the successor. Don’t know how long he’ll have to wait though. Belichek doesn’t strike me as the type to ever say when or if he’ll step down / retire, etc.

  15. You see people like him all the time in the workplace. They’re very protective of their little “safe space” and they aren’t budging.

  16. McDaniels has a young family that enjoys the Boston area, has a 5 year deal worth $4 mil a year, and has a pretty good gig. He will be okay. Watch for the Pats to land Daniel Jones from Duke in the draft.

  17. One team had interest, that team hired someone else. I guess I should announce that since the same number of teams are interested in me that I will chose not to accept any HC offers.

  18. He was clearly told he would be the successor to Belichick last year which is why he backed out of Indy. This is all for the show.

  19. How pathetic does a fan have to be to constantly attack McDaniels with character assassination?

    His decision didn’t hurt the Colts, the new Colts assistant coaches nor the Colts players. It certainly didn’t hurt the Patriots. It didn’t hurt his family. I am at a loss of identifying anyone it hurt.

    The character assassination is envy masquerading as moral superiority. Alas, not an uncommon thing in American sports and politics.

  20. I thought – Josh McDaniels reportedly “enthusiastically interested” in Browns job – someone is lying.

    Browns are better off without him!

  21. Before everyone says McD is done. BB (arguably the greatest of all time) bombed in his first head coaching gig too. He may not want it. He may want the NE job. I honestly suspect BB retires this year.

  22. Would each and every one of you predicting McDaniels’ future failure outline for us the success rate of your prior predictions? Start with your predictions for the Patriots not making the playoffs or losing their first playoff game starting in 2001. I suspect there is a strong correlation of McDaniels hate and Patiots hate.

  23. He wanted the Packers. The Packers didn’t want him. Fold your arms across your chest, put on a pouty face, and go home.

  24. Love it….. 1 less distraction heading into the playoffs…..
    Now, if the same thing will happen with Brian Flores life will be even better…..
    Go Pats…..pull the plug on the Chargers!!!!

  25. Nofoolnodrool says:
    January 8, 2019 at 12:28 pm
    Without Brady and Belicheat he will fold like a bingo hall chair. He is being made to be a star but its just Brady.
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    Don’t forget that McDaniels Broncos were also caught cheating by doing the same filming of an opponents closed practice that the Patriots were caught doing (and another time however the Packers didn’t turn them into the league.)

    I was surprised that GB even interviewed him. Maybe they asked him if he did it to GB too and he admitted it? (I don’t recall if he was in NE at that time, but I think he was.)

  26. I can only assume so many folks are interested in the play by play on McDaniels because their own teams are on a slab and there’s nothing ahead but eternal darkness (and then the draft). Right Steelers?

  27. mase7286 says:
    January 8, 2019 at 12:43 pm
    He was clearly told he would be the successor to Belichick last year which is why he backed out of Indy. This is all for the show.

    ———————-
    He has knowledge the rest of us don’t about whats being said behind closed doors there. If he was hearing that Belichick was going to be there for the years to come long haul he would not want to wait. So if he is willing to wait its possible he has knowledge that the post Belichick era is not that far off so worth waiting.

  28. I’m hoping this isn’t just a PR move in a back-channel, tug-of-war negotiation with somebody, namely the Browns. In a local podcast in Cleveland, it was said that McDaniels may have tried to go over Dorsey’s head and get hired by Haslam directly. Who knows if that’s true or not. It wouldn’t surprise me. Haslam has made a lot of stupid decisions, but hiring Dorsey is, by far, his best move. It goes without saying that hiring McDaniels would be a disaster for the Browns if, in fact, it is true that he would be hired over Dorsey’s objections.

  29. “mase7286 says:
    January 8, 2019 at 12:43 pm
    He was clearly told he would be the successor to Belichick last year which is why he backed out of Indy. This is all for the show.”

    Except he is interviewing for other HC’ing jobs, which says he wasn’t given any guarantees or doesn’t believe them. But if that is the case, even better. I figured the Pats would drop off a cliff when BB retires, but if they’ve already lined up McDaniels as his successor, they’ve tied a 200 lb anchor to their legs as they inch towards that cliff.

  30. According to Josh via conference call, he had no contact with Cleveland, his responsibilities haven’t expanded this year, he’s staying in NE.

  31. Browns job was the best job out there with all the young talent. He must have his heart set on New England. It will be a total rebuild when Belichick retires. He should have went to Cleveland. He may be waiting several years for the New England job.

  32. rooneyruleblues says:
    January 8, 2019 at 12:53 pm
    Cant wait till Brady and Belichick retire, and McDaniels is there with a 4-12 record and Gillette is a ghost town. It’s coming Bean Town!
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    You should swing up sometime to see the entire complex there. That will never be a ghost town.

  33. Remember last year, when he welched on the Colts, and he said the reason was because BB was going to “open the vault” and show him his secrets so that he could be the Pats’ coach forever?

    Why did he even go to Green Bay for that interview?

    This dude’s a self-serving snake.

  34. “tigerlilac says:
    January 8, 2019 at 12:51 pm
    Would each and every one of you predicting McDaniels’ future failure outline for us the success rate of your prior predictions?”

    I think it’s easier to see what McDaniels has done outside of the confines of One Patriot Place. He was an unmitigated disaster in Denver and set that team back years. He then pulled out of a verbal agreement with Indy, which thankfully for them, allowed them to hire a better HC. How about I flip the question and you tell me what McDaniels has done outside of your all consuming Patriot love for any team to show interest in him being a good HC?

  35. PFT reported over the weekend, when McDaniels was still a viable candidate for the Green Bay job, that the Patriots were preparing for McDaniels to leave.

    Come on, that comment was all about Kingsbury being his replacement. NE doesn’t worry about potential happenings. Anyone who follows NE knows that. I saw what you said on WEEI.

  36. The Browns shouldn’t hire him. The other open HC jobs are mostly bad news. He likely won’t lose anything by waiting.

  37. Patriots hate! The guy is one f the best offensive minds in the business. He changed his mind on a job (just like Kliff Klingsbury but people were ok with that).

  38. So after visiting the Murphy, Gutekunst and Rodgers, McDaniels turned them down.

    Josh didn’t want or need Rodgers as his co HC…

  39. I do not see Belichick ever retiring and it’s hard to imagine Kraft firing him. He will stop when his health demands he cease working. What else would a guy like him ever do? As such, I don’t see McD’s ever being the HC of NE. McD probably sees himself as the second coming of BB and would only bless a franchise with sufficient gravitas. Green Bay was the only team that satisfied that criterion. They didn’t want him. Watch his hat fly into the ring if(when?)Tomlin gets the ax.

  40. First off, as a Browns fan, THANK YOU. I don’t want the guy, I don’t trust the guy, and we’ve already seen how ineffective he is as a head coach, much like the rest of the supposed tree.

    But while Pats fans may think there is some deal in place for him to take over blah blah – and there may be. He would be doing it without Tom Brady and a I would think a lot of other players, and if he wasn’t interested in a HC job, then why interview for one and enthusiastically express interest in another.

    It’s hogwash. All the names being thrown around and he wasn’t one of them. He’s trying to save face. But outside of New England, everyone can see the truth.

  41. Honestly, who thinks McDaniels would have done a better job as HC in Indy this year than Reich has done?
    This guys is just riding the coattails of BB and Brady. He did the same thing getting a job on the UM staff because his daddy was buds with Saban. He’s the coaching version of Alex Guerrero. A *guru.

  42. Josh gets a lot of comments because of the backing out the Indy job. On the other hand, most teams if not all announce a new coach after the contract is signed not before. There was also no guarantee that Luck would return from his injury. Let’s face it Indy has been playing fast and loose with facts information for several years now.
    Sometimes coordinators make better coordinators than they do head coaches. Maybe that is Josh’s true calling.

  43. tigerlilac says:
    January 8, 2019 at 12:47 pm
    How pathetic does a fan have to be to constantly attack McDaniels with character assassination?

    His decision didn’t hurt the Colts, the new Colts assistant coaches nor the Colts players. It certainly didn’t hurt the Patriots. It didn’t hurt his family. I am at a loss of identifying anyone it hurt.
    The character assassination is envy masquerading as moral superiority. Alas, not an uncommon thing in American sports and politics.
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    It’s actions that make a low character, not the impact it has on any one or multiple parties.

  44. After the debacle with the Colts last season, I seriously doubt any well run team other than the Patriots will ever pursue him again. Even if he does get the Patriots job after Bill retires, I seriously doubt the Patriots will be any good.

    Teams need certainty when it comes to coaching hires.

  45. Why is this even a problem for some people? This is nothing at all like jilting the Colts. This appears to be a man happy in his job that was willing to look at an attractive option. When that option was off the table, he decided to stay in his current job. What do you want? McDaniels to quit his current job? For nothing?

  46. andyfootball says:
    January 8, 2019 at 12:12 pm

    The Colts were fortunate McDaniels backed out on them. Frank Reich proves that the second or third option is sometimes the best option.
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    The only thing the Colts proved is that you need to obtain offensive lineman that can protect your franchise quarterback.

  47. Facts matter, at least they use to matter. I am not sure any more.

    1. McDaniels did not “pass on Luck”. The Colts famously “sucked for Luck” and passed on Peyton Manning after drafting him. Luck was the #1 pick in the draft.

    2. Yes, McDaniels didn’t want Cutler and that assessment has been proved astute.

    3. Yes, McDaniels did not think highly of Brandon Marshall. Again an astute assessment. He replaced him with Demaryius Thomas and Eric Decker in the draft. Thomas is the second ranked receiver in Broncos history.

    4. On another thread, McDaniels was slammed for getting rid of Peyton Hillis, who had one great year in Cleveland and didn’t do much else.

    5. McDaniels made an error on Tebow, thinking he could fix his mechanics. That said, Tebow had unique leadership skills and beat the Steelers in the Playoffs on the 1st play of OT in one of the great games ion Broncos history.

    6. He drafted Hall of Famer Brian Dawkins and Elway let Dawkins get away.

    No, McDaniels was not a success in Denver but he had one bad year. He was hardly the dumpster fire he was made out to be.

  48. It appears that the Packers’s job is the only position McDaniels would be willing to leave New England for. Sorry Josh. Green Bay has gone another direction.

  49. All of the Colts fans saying they “dodged a bullet” in Josh backing out, we all know (based on the Patriots approach to success) that Josh would have tried to do this with the Colts:

    -develop a strong O-line
    -get the QB to make quicker decisions and get the ball out quicker
    -improve the depth and versatility of the defense

    SO,

    basically Reich has done (and successfully, to his credit) what Josh would have likely done as well. It would have been roughly the same formula.

  50. I’ll have to defer to Jman’s expertise when it comes to knowing an unmitigated disaster when he sees it. He is, after all, a fan of the unprecedented downward spiraling clown show that is the Pittsburgh Steelers. Or, as they’re referred to up here, the Pittsburgh Speedbumps.

  51. thesmartest1 says:
    January 8, 2019 at 12:16 pm
    He’ll be a failure when Brady/Belichick retire. It’ll be fun to watch.

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    Thats cool. Because if your team isn’t winning you will need something.

  52. You can’t blame McDaniels for exploring an opportunity to join one of the most historic and legendary franchises in the NFL.
    Trying to lead this team to a 14th, and an already record number of Championships, is an honor I’m sure most potential coaches would’ve loved to have a crack at.

    Now it’s time to welcome the newest member of the Packers family, Matt LaFluer.

  53. mmack66 says:
    January 8, 2019 at 1:53 pm
    andyfootball says:
    January 8, 2019 at 12:12 pm

    The Colts were fortunate McDaniels backed out on them. Frank Reich proves that the second or third option is sometimes the best option.
    ——————–

    The only thing the Colts proved is that you need to obtain offensive lineman that can protect your franchise quarterback.

    ————————
    This is true and so I think Ballard is the bigger factor to their recent success more than Reich (who is still certainly doing a good job).

    The main thing is, now that Andrew Luck is getting that protection he has always needed he is a legitimate and serious threat. Gonna have to back off on the jokes now. And also if Ballard does more smart stuff this off season thats going to up the ante further. Sort of like “oh damn, they went and got themselves some brains in Indy”

  54. He made his bed when he snaked on the Colts and the Assistants he invited to join him and left their current positions for him only to be left hung out to dry without as much as a phone call.

    There is 1 franchise left that doesn’t hate him, he should stay there.

  55. McDaniels will share the same fate as Patrica if he does leave again. You lose those calls from the refs and no longer benefit from Patriot Priviledge which makes it a lot tougher.

  56. “I’ll have to defer to Jman’s expertise when it comes to knowing an unmitigated disaster when he sees it. He is, after all, a fan of the unprecedented downward spiraling clown show that is the Pittsburgh Steelers. Or, as they’re referred to up here, the Pittsburgh Speedbumps.”

    The great thing is, when you have nothing to say, you can always deflect and attack.

  57. Tigerlilac bucked the tide and used FACTS to make his points. Foolish boy. 😉 Did he forget where he was posting. On any Pats related thread here, facts NEVER apply.

    That being said, let me add a few other fact the Pats/McDaniels haters fail to take into consideration.

    1. In his one year leading the offense WITHOUT Tom Brady, they won 11 games (2008) with Matt Freakin’ Castle as the QB.

    2. That during his 11 year reign as OC the Pats have had only 2 all pro WR’s (Moss for 2 full years, and Welker for 2 years) yet had a top 5 passing attack for all but one of those years.

    And add this to the reasons McDamiels isn’t in a hurry to leave NE is his family. He has a young family who LOVE living in NE (his wife is a native). Add to that the family had a horrible experience in Denver and was very happy when Josh got back to NE.

    I think the Browns job would have been something he might have jumped up since he grew up and played ball in Ohio. The Packers were never a realistic option since he’d never have enough control of the personnel with the Packers organizational structure.

    Finally McDaniels reign in Denver wasn’t as bad as its being portrayed, but it was as good a job as he would have liked. If/when he gets his 2nd chance, he will likely learn from that experience, and if he doesn’t, it won’t last long.

  58. “All of the Colts fans saying they “dodged a bullet” in Josh backing out, we all know (based on the Patriots approach to success) that Josh would have tried to do this with the Colts:”

    Most are saying they dodged a bullet in Josh backing out because of his failures and fiasco’s in Denver – not on the assumption of what he might have done personnel-wise in Indy. The fact remains, he backed out of a verbal agreement, has failed miserably in his one stint as HC and had no more than one team interview him this year. His success lives and dies with the success of BB and Brady. That isn’t something you need to assume at this point.

  59. tigerlilac says:
    January 8, 2019 at 1:56 pm
    Facts matter, at least they use to matter. I am not sure any more.

    1. McDaniels did not “pass on Luck”. The Colts famously “sucked for Luck” and passed on Peyton Manning after drafting him. Luck was the #1 pick in the draft.

    2. Yes, McDaniels didn’t want Cutler and that assessment has been proved astute.

    3. Yes, McDaniels did not think highly of Brandon Marshall. Again an astute assessment. He replaced him with Demaryius Thomas and Eric Decker in the draft. Thomas is the second ranked receiver in Broncos history.

    4. On another thread, McDaniels was slammed for getting rid of Peyton Hillis, who had one great year in Cleveland and didn’t do much else.

    5. McDaniels made an error on Tebow, thinking he could fix his mechanics. That said, Tebow had unique leadership skills and beat the Steelers in the Playoffs on the 1st play of OT in one of the great games ion Broncos history.

    6. He drafted Hall of Famer Brian Dawkins and Elway let Dawkins get away.

    No, McDaniels was not a success in Denver but he had one bad year. He was hardly the dumpster fire he was made out to be.

    Josh McVideo was in junior high when Dawkins was drafted in the 2nd round of the 96′ draft by the Eagles.

    Why are “lifelong” (aka since February 02′) Patriot fans so uninformed??? Lol

  60. “1. In his one year leading the offense WITHOUT Tom Brady, they won 11 games (2008) with Matt Freakin’ Castle as the QB.”
    I’m glad you brought it up, though incorrectly. In his 2 years leading an offense, directly, without Brady he was terrible and good. In 2011 he was the OC for the Rams. That spectacular unit scored more than 30 points 3 times, putting up 20 or more points twice. Getting held to 10 or less points 7 times and shutout twice. In 2008 he fared much better with the 8th ranked offense in points that year without Brady – but with BB. So again – there is a huge discrepancy between what he does at One Patriot Place and what he does elsewhere. I wonder why…

  61. Q: “How pathetic does a fan have to be to constantly attack McDaniels with character assassination?”

    A: Almost as pathetic as a coach who alienated the best players on his new team (Cutler & Marshall), overpaid for long snapper (Lonie Paxton) even though Denver already had Mike Leach. Then, drafts Tebow. And finally, jumping ship after being caught cheating (via video) and leaving in the middle of the season in the dead of night. Never mind the entire Indy debacle.

    This dude is not HC material for any team outside of Foxboro, Mass.

  62. dartmouthstevens says:
    January 8, 2019 at 12:50 pm
    Before everyone says McD is done. BB (arguably the greatest of all time) bombed in his first head coaching gig too. He may not want it. He may want the NE job. I honestly suspect BB retires this year.

    BB also pulled a Mcdaniels and backed out of a job hed already agreed to take… must be in the water …

  63. “Finally McDaniels reign in Denver wasn’t as bad as its being portrayed, but it was as good a job as he would have liked. If/when he gets his 2nd chance, he will likely learn from that experience, and if he doesn’t, it won’t last long.”

    Yes. Yes it was. He bailed won 6 games in a row, then stuck up the joint until he got caught taping a SF practice and left town in the middle of the night. Fox and McCoy caught lighting in a bottle with Tebow, not Joshie.

  64. tigerlilac says:
    January 8, 2019 at 1:56 pm

    RE: 6. He drafted Hall of Famer Brian Dawkins and Elway let Dawkins get away.

    ———————————————————————-
    Fact Check:
    Brian Dawkins was drafted in the 2nd round of the 1996 draft by the Eagles, where he spent the first 13 years of his career playing. McDaniels brought him in as a free agent towards the end of his career in 2009. He played the last 3 years of his career with the Broncos. Elway didn’t get rid of him…he retired!

  65. Please do not insult Mr. Dorsey’s intellect by implying that Cleveland was interested in this clown. I’m not buying it. In fact it was already confirmed by Daniels himself that no contact was ever even made to him by the Browns Organization.

  66. My bad. MikeManning is correct.

    I recalled him signing Dawkins and should have known it was at the end of his career, not the start. Heck, he wouldn’t have had enough years in to even make the Hall of Fame (unless he was Tyrell Davis) if McDaniels drafted him.

    Mea Culpa on blaming Elway for getting rid of him as well.

  67. Finally McDaniels reign in Denver wasn’t as bad as its being portrayed..
    ====

    He was removed at 3-9… the team finished 4-12

    It doesn’t get much worse..

  68. A couple of changes I would like to see in PFT is (1) keeping a database of posts by poster and (2) not letting posters use multiple screen names. That would clean up much of the nastiness.

  69. footballpat says:
    January 8, 2019 at 1:24 pm
    Patriots hate! The guy is one f the best offensive minds in the business. He changed his mind on a job (just like Kliff Klingsbury but people were ok with that).

    “““““““““““““““““
    one f the best offensive minds in the business does not select T. Tebow in the first round.

  70. aarons444 says:
    January 8, 2019 at 3:51 pm
    Finally McDaniels reign in Denver wasn’t as bad as its being portrayed..
    ====

    He was removed at 3-9… the team finished 4-12

    It doesn’t get much worse..

    ———————–

    Bill Walsh’s record in his first two years: 8 – 24 (25%)

    McDaniel’s record in his first two years: 11 – 17 (39%)

  71. Why does everyone assume he is going to be a good head coach? Why does everyone assume he is holding out for the Patriots job? If I was a future coach and I had the very young Browns or the aging Patriots as options, I would absolutely take the Browns job.

  72. tigerlilac says:

    January 8, 2019 at 1:56 pm

    Facts matter, at least they use to matter. I am not sure any more.

    1. McDaniels did not “pass on Luck”. The Colts famously “sucked for Luck” and passed on Peyton Manning after drafting him. Luck was the #1 pick in the draft.

    2. Yes, McDaniels didn’t want Cutler and that assessment has been proved astute.

    3. Yes, McDaniels did not think highly of Brandon Marshall. Again an astute assessment. He replaced him with Demaryius Thomas and Eric Decker in the draft. Thomas is the second ranked receiver in Broncos history.

    4. On another thread, McDaniels was slammed for getting rid of Peyton Hillis, who had one great year in Cleveland and didn’t do much else.

    5. McDaniels made an error on Tebow, thinking he could fix his mechanics. That said, Tebow had unique leadership skills and beat the Steelers in the Playoffs on the 1st play of OT in one of the great games ion Broncos history.

    6. He drafted Hall of Famer Brian Dawkins and Elway let Dawkins get away.

    ________________________________________

    I normally stop reading at the first typo, which in your case happened quickly- “use to matter. ”

    I’m glad I kept reading, because if facts matter, you would know that McDaniels did not draft Brian Dawkins.

  73. BB son Brian just Joined the scouting department this year. So i think BB will be around awhile. I could be off base, but i think one of his Son’s takes over at HC when ready.

  74. I love when someone makes 5 cogent points and someone nit pics the 6th and thinks he won the argument. Petty

  75. Bill Walsh’s record in his first two years: 8 – 24 (25%)

    McDaniel’s record in his first two years: 11 – 17 (39%)
    ====

    Walsh had Montana at that point..

    McDaniels hitched his wagon to Tebow………

  76. McDaniels traded Cutler for KOrton, 2 1rst rnd pks and a 3rd. Ask Bears fans who won that trade yahoos

  77. tigerlilac says:

    January 8, 2019 at 3:48 pm

    My bad. MikeManning is correct.

    I recalled him signing Dawkins and should have known it was at the end of his career, not the start. Heck, he wouldn’t have had enough years in to even make the Hall of Fame (unless he was Tyrell Davis) if McDaniels drafted him.

    Mea Culpa on blaming Elway for getting rid of him as well.

    _______________________________

    Tyrell? And you talk facts?

  78. Anyone who thinks Brian Dawkins was drafted by the Broncos and spells #30’s first name as Tyrell, should be ignored henceforth.

  79. tedmurph says:

    January 8, 2019 at 4:59 pm

    I love when someone makes 5 cogent points and someone nit pics the 6th and thinks he won the argument. Petty

    ________________________

    Nit pic? Brian Dawkins was drafted by Elway?

  80. Nit pic means than when you get blown up by 5 consecutive arguments, a small detail on the 6th one doesn’t amount to much. Gotta love flyover country.

  81. Why are “lifelong” (aka since February 02′) Patriot fans so uninformed???
    =====

    February ’02?

    I think you’re spotting them 5 years…..

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