Push for Matt LaFleur accelerated dramatically on Monday

AP

The Packers took their time to look for their next head coach. And then, a day after interviewing Matt LaFleur, the process rocketed to a conclusion.

As one league source explained it, things happened very quickly on Monday afternoon, and it’s not entirely clear why. Some have suggested that the Packers feared losing LaFleur to another team. Per another league source, however, no other team formally requested permission from the Titans to interview LaFleur.

So what happened? Light surely will be shed on the process when CEO Mark Murphy meets the media. Whatever it was, it happened fast enough — and it was persuasive enough to get the Packers to decide not to wait for someone like Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels but to pounce on LaFleur now.

Whether it’s the connection to Sean McVay, the work with other successful quarterbacks over the years, or something else, the Packers saw it, and the Packers made their move.

90 responses to “Push for Matt LaFleur accelerated dramatically on Monday

  1. They should have hired a defensive coach like Fangio and basically let Rodgers run the offense. Everyone keeps saying how smart Aaron is and how he needs to be challenged. Let him run the show like Peyton did.

    Manning would literally run the practices he had so much control. Give that control to Aaron and he would thrive or at least learn to respect the head coach more than he does now.

  2. Great move! The Packers were in hurry up and fail mode. And didn’t waste any time doing it.

  3. It seems great coordinators make bad head coaches so maybe the GB logic is the inverse, that bad coordinators make great head coaches

  4. I read somewhere that the pool of available coaches was seen as being shallow this season and the hirings seem to support that. This guy feels like a reach, losing college coaches are getting multiple interviews, and the closest to a consensus “good hire” thus far has been a guy who quit for health reasons after basically melting down the past two seasons. Crazy.

  5. I agree the Titans offense was kind of bad this season. But we dealt with an insane amount of injuries on offense this season. He was dealt a bad hand. I really wanted to keep him for some continuity finally.

    That said, I am pretty amazed that he got a HC job this season.

  6. Wisconsin’s Favorite Son Jeffrey Be Dahmed says:
    January 8, 2019 at 10:57 am
    Great move! The Packers were in hurry up and fail mode. And didn’t waste any time doing it.
    ___________________

    Well, it’s obvious that the Vikings are mired in their Lather, rinse, repeat mode.
    And truth be known, the Packers could have hired a ham sandwich to coach this team and it would have the same amount of Championships as all the men put together who’ve worn a whistle for the Vikings.
    Yeah, let that sink in!

  7. This guy is likely an instant winner. It stands to reason because the Viking trolls are already picking petty and jealous fights over him, and they’re never right. Good omen.

  8. Ask some Titan fans…we are happy they hired him…get him away from here…he looked overmatched and over his head as OC

  9. Anyone waiting for McDaniels is seriously playing with fire. You can’t even interview him for two more weeks, then there’s no guarantee he’ll accept the interview, no guarantee he’ll accept the job, and no guarantee he’ll show up even if he does accept. He’s a failed HC anyway.

    Maybe the Packers just found the guy they want and hired him?

  10. Murphy: Who will be calling the shots and making decisions on this team?

    LaFleur: Aaron Rodgers of course

    Murphy: You’re hired!!

  11. Manning would literally run the practices he had so much control. Give that control to Aaron and he would thrive or at least learn to respect the head coach more than he does now.
    ======

    Would he thrive?

    Is he in the building 16 hours a day, as people said Manning was?

    .. and lets not downplay Tom Moore’s role in the Colts success. He worked with many All-Pros and HOFrs and engineered some the of the best offenses of this era. (70’s Steelers, Barry Sanders, a full decade with Mannings Colts)

  12. Some have suggested that the Packers feared losing LaFleur to another team. Per another league source, however, no other team formally requested permission from the Titans to interview LaFleur.
    ——

    Fear of imaginary perssure and anxiety. LOLOL. This sudden hire is suddenly looking like a panic move and becoming very entertaining.

  13. stellarperformance says:
    January 8, 2019 at 11:26 am

    This guy is likely an instant winner. It stands to reason because the Viking trolls are already picking petty and jealous fights over him, and they’re never right. Good omen.
    ___________

    Maybe Viking trolls are never right, but knowledgeable Viking fans are often right. Let me name just a few things that Viking fans knew before the rest of you got on board:

    – Ted Thompson can’t build a team and should be fired.
    – Mike McCarthy isn’t a good coach and should be fired.
    – Optimism about the Packers this year is misplaced.
    – The Packer defense is bad. It will take a lot more than Mike Pettine to get that unit fixed.
    – Aaron Rodgers is declining.

    Not saying that we’re always right, but you can’t say we’re never right.

  14. hailtothenamechange says:
    January 8, 2019 at 11:34 am
    Anyone waiting for McDaniels is seriously playing with fire. You can’t even interview him for two more weeks, then there’s no guarantee he’ll accept the interview, no guarantee he’ll accept the job, and no guarantee he’ll show up even if he does accept. He’s a failed HC anyway.

    Maybe the Packers just found the guy they want and hired him?

    —————–

    You do realize they actually did interview him. He was only taking interviews this time around for teams he wanted to be a part of, in which case he only interviewed with the Packers and turned down other opportunities. And also already thanked the Packers for the chance.

    I mean come on. At least know what the heck is going on.

  15. cheeseisfattening says:
    January 8, 2019 at 11:41 am
    Some have suggested that the Packers feared losing LaFleur to another team. Per another league source, however, no other team formally requested permission from the Titans to interview LaFleur.
    ——

    Fear of imaginary perssure and anxiety. LOLOL. This sudden hire is suddenly looking like a panic move and becoming very entertaining.

    ——————-

    Or maybe that is just the spin the writer wants to put on this. All it takes is someone they are discussing with to go “hmm maybe they feared this”. Oh look now it is in my piece because some people are discussing it. Come on, stop reading too deeply into things.

  16. wafflestomp says:
    January 8, 2019 at 11:19 am
    Wisconsin’s Favorite Son Jeffrey Be Dahmed says:
    January 8, 2019 at 10:57 am
    Great move! The Packers were in hurry up and fail mode. And didn’t waste any time doing it.
    ___________________

    Well, it’s obvious that the Vikings are mired in their Lather, rinse, repeat mode.
    And truth be known, the Packers could have hired a ham sandwich to coach this team and it would have the same amount of Championships as all the men put together who’ve worn a whistle for the Vikings.
    Yeah, let that sink in!
    ——————————————————————————————–
    wafflestomp, Now that is putting it in perspective.Well said,my friend.
    There are several Packer fans,previously P.O.,who are now saying “you know…Dude’s got a point.LOL.
    That being said,from a outsider’s perspective I thought Zimmer was doing a pretty decent job.
    But then again I am a Rams fan and I remember outsiders and even some Ram fans saying that Goff and Nick Foles were busts,while I repeatedly screamed at my cpu screen ” It’s not the QB’s!!!
    It’s the moron jeff fisher.Though Keenum fooled me.Turns out he could play QB too.

  17. Rodgers is among very few active quarterbacks that can real-time assess the defense and make play changes on the fly. If the new coach likes to win, he’ll love Rodgers. There won’t be any “follow the futility script” oftentimes found with “guaranteed” quarterbacks. That’s called pretending, and it’s sustained with large amounts of wishing, hoping, and praying.

  18. wafflestomp says:
    January 8, 2019 at 11:19 am

    Wisconsin’s Favorite Son Jeffrey Be Dahmed says:
    January 8, 2019 at 10:57 am
    Great move! The Packers were in hurry up and fail mode. And didn’t waste any time doing it.
    ___________________

    Well, it’s obvious that the Vikings are mired in their Lather, rinse, repeat mode.
    And truth be known, the Packers could have hired a ham sandwich to coach this team and it would have the same amount of Championships as all the men put together who’ve worn a whistle for the Vikings.
    Yeah, let that sink in!

    /////////

    Well its obvious that Packers fans live in the past, you keep polishing those ancient trophies you always bring up when losing debates, yeah I know Minny has never one a Super Bowl but your organization has won how many in this decade with a future Hall of Fame QB who has literally had his career wasted by bad coaching and mismanagement. ONE!…..ONE! yeah its one more than Minny but how many more than the Goat Tom Brady? Green Bay is headed back to the 70’s and a 23 year drought no division titles. The past is the past the future is here now – can Green Bay even field a competitive team, let that sink in. It takes 3-4 years to turn a franchise around with a head coach not everyone is a Nagy or a McVey. Rodgers career is in its twilight and in three or four years he is done.

    Packers be like,,,,uhuhuhh I I I gotta ask someone to prom – so I’ll just ask anybody to fill the date – Packers did the same thing at HC. Didn’t really even make a play for McDaniels, Fangio or Bruce Arians (Yeah I know he had no interest) but at least try.

    Stop with the football royalty bit, its old and most fans if not all of the NFL is tired of hearing about your glory days that half of you Packers fans were not even around for.

    Anxiety is running high in Packerville, new HC mean new coaches, new offense, maybe new defense if Pettine doesn’t stay. How long before A A Ron says “Trade me”? Dark says ahead in Packerville. Could be the 70s all over again.

  19. Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:
    January 8, 2019 at 11:47 am

    …..but knowledgeable Viking fans are often right….

    ———————

    Well, there’s a contradiction in terms if I’ve ever heard one.

  20. Wonder if LaFleur will throw his OC under the bus if they lose a few games or if he will have some loyalty to his staff? Can’t imagine working for someone who didn’t have my back. Hope he’s a better man than that.

  21. It appears Packer fans can’t tell the difference between an audible at the line and scoffing at a play as it comes into the huddle and changing it while still in the huddle into a glory play for the QB position. Thanks for explaining this to us who can comprehend Mr. Lewis.

  22. Anxiety is running high in Packerville, new HC mean new coaches, new offense, maybe new defense if Pettine doesn’t stay. How long before A A Ron says “Trade me”? Dark says ahead in Packerville. Could be the 70s all over again.
    =====

    Nah. We’re good.

    I think we all would have loved to get McVay, or Payton… or Belichick.. but that’s virtually impossible.

    .. Rodgers can’t be traded. The cap hit makes it impossible. Its not worth discussion. But, troll on, I suppose.

  23. – Ted Thompson can’t build a team and should be fired.
    – Mike McCarthy isn’t a good coach and should be fired.
    – Optimism about the Packers this year is misplaced.
    – The Packer defense is bad. It will take a lot more than Mike Pettine to get that unit fixed.
    – Aaron Rodgers is declining.
    =====

    Lots of debate to be had on most points there, but I think objective fans recognized those things.

    .. Even the unobjective ones had to know it.

    … the rivalry is the real problem. There is a really unhealthy amount of hatred on both sides that distorts reason for a lot of the commenters here. To the point that, other than Pats fans and Pats bashers, these are the worst groups of commenters on the site. Just a bunch of irrational nonsense flying around most of the time.

  24. If it was between Lafleur and McDaniels, and they could hire Lafleur now or have a handshake agreement with McDaniels, do you blame them?

  25. There’s not a bigger copycat league than the NFL. This kid was a QB Coach in college a few years ago. Best of luck to him, he’s talented…and now he’s rich.

  26. Interesting how confident and boisterous the skoltrolls are when their own house is in such disarray. Then again, fans of a team that has never won anything in the history of the franchise I guess are immune to another season of overpaying a mediocre quarterback and missing the playoffs. Actually, it is nice that the Packers having an off year does bring them some joy. After decades of futility, at least they found some way to enjoy football.

    Im looking forward to seeing what Matt LaFleur brings to the Packers. This should be an interesting off-season. Perhaps McCarthy will take over in Pittsburgh next year.

  27. To get in the GB mentality… the only thing that matters is trophies and not current/future prospects. So, Packer fans must believe that Eli Manning is better than Aaron Rodgers.

  28. hailtothenamechange says:
    January 8, 2019 at 11:34 am
    Anyone waiting for McDaniels is seriously playing with fire. You can’t even interview him for two more weeks, then there’s no guarantee he’ll accept the interview, no guarantee he’ll accept the job, and no guarantee he’ll show up even if he does accept. He’s a failed HC anyway.

    Maybe the Packers just found the guy they want and hired him?

    —————–

    You do realize they actually did interview him. He was only taking interviews this time around for teams he wanted to be a part of, in which case he only interviewed with the Packers and turned down other opportunities. And also already thanked the Packers for the chance.

    I mean come on. At least know what the heck is going on.

    ****

    Sorry I don’t follow your team as closely as you do, I guess.

  29. Somebody who is on the field of play, making successful play calling adjustments is invaluable over a dyed-in-the wool sideline numbers guy that never grew out of playing “not to lose.”

    Viking fans wouldn’t know the difference. They’ve been satisfied with hoping, wishing, and praying for nearly six decades.

  30. The Packer’s problem was that the best coach on the market, they just fired a month ago. Pickin’s were slim. Smartest move would have been to take Fangio off the Bear’s hands, improve their defense, and let Rogers do his thing.

  31. Kevin Clark
    ✔@bykevinclark

    Candidate 1: “I’ve spent the last decade building great defenses.”
    Candidate 2: “I had a Bud Light Lime with Sean McVay at the NFL combine.”
    All eight NFL teams with openings: Well, I’ve heard enough. Let’s start talking contract, candidate 2.

    4,466
    5:31 PM – Jan 7, 2019

  32. hailtothenamechange says:
    January 8, 2019 at 12:46 pm
    hailtothenamechange says:
    January 8, 2019 at 11:34 am
    Anyone waiting for McDaniels is seriously playing with fire. You can’t even interview him for two more weeks, then there’s no guarantee he’ll accept the interview, no guarantee he’ll accept the job, and no guarantee he’ll show up even if he does accept. He’s a failed HC anyway.

    Maybe the Packers just found the guy they want and hired him?

    —————–

    You do realize they actually did interview him. He was only taking interviews this time around for teams he wanted to be a part of, in which case he only interviewed with the Packers and turned down other opportunities. And also already thanked the Packers for the chance.

    I mean come on. At least know what the heck is going on.

    ****

    Sorry I don’t follow your team as closely as you do, I guess.

    ——–

    Yet you stopped in to say hi and make comments… got it.

  33. The two teams going downhill in the division are the Wide Left Vikings and the Doink Bonk Bears. They gave their best shots. It’s time again to be shown how it’s done…….by the Green Bay Packers.

  34. thegr8rayfinkle says:
    January 8, 2019 at 10:59 am
    This seems rushed. It’s like when the Vikings rushed hiring Brad Childress then the Pack hired MM after. It’s never good to rush a hire. Never.
    ——————————————————

    Rushed? They have had a head coach opening for five weeks now. This move is hardly rushed at all. LaFleur obviously blew their socks off during the interview process. So much so, that he got the gig over guys with previous head coaching experience, among other qualifications. No clue whether he’ll be a great coach or not, but this hire was not rushed at all.

  35. Mr. Darkness, nowhere in my post did I even mention any of the numerous past Championships the Packers have notched over their historic and legendary existence.
    I’m sincerely sorry I ruffled your feathers, but perhaps you should go back and reread exactly what I wrote.
    Reading comprehension is a wonderful thing.

    All I did, was point out to an annoying Barney troll just how pathetic and sad the Vikings 58 year drought has been, and how silly it is to already draw a conclusion and judge what kind of coach Matt Lafluer will make when simply none of us have any clear perspective how he will turn out.

    He’s young, has the experience under two of the most innovative coaches in today’s NFL, well respected by league insiders, but there are still a whole lot of ??? associated with his hire.
    It’s now up to Gutekunst to continue to acquiring the talent necessary to make LaFluer’s job easier and bring the Packers back to prominence.
    Time, and only time will tell.

  36. Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:

    – Ted Thompson can’t build a team and should be fired.
    – Mike McCarthy isn’t a good coach and should be fired.
    – Optimism about the Packers this year is misplaced.
    – The Packer defense is bad. It will take a lot more than Mike Pettine to get that unit fixed.
    – Aaron Rodgers is declining.

    Not saying that we’re always right, but you can’t say we’re never right.

    ——————————-

    Ted Thompson would already have his statue erected in MN if he had won a super bowl in MN.
    Mike McCarthy would already be in the Vikings ring of honor for winning a title.
    Their optimism in the Vikings this season was misplaced.
    The Packers defense wasn’t good, but it certainly wasn’t bad. That they were 18th in the league playing that group of 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th string players is a testament to Pettine.
    Aaron Rodgers is declining, but so is every football player older than 27.

    So maybe they aren’t always wrong, but they are almost always wrong. Just like when you will tell us that MN will again win a championship this summer just like you always tell us.

  37. Nobody will know how this turns out until the season starts.

    But when McCarthy was fired, all we heard from packer fans was “what a plumb job Green Bay is with Aaron Rodgers as the QB”

    And Green Bay hires Matt LaFleur?
    This is the coaching hire that lives up to the “greatest coaching position available”?

    It might be, but on the surface, it doesn’t make sense.

  38. Tom Pellisaro NFL Network:

    “Done deal: The Packers and Matt LaFleur agreed to a 4-year contract with a fifth-year option source said. Strong numbers for a first time head coach. They got their guy.”

    Waiting on the official announcement from the Packers at a press conference inside 1265 Lombardi Avenue, that should be later today or tomorrow.

    #WelcomeToTitleTownMatt!

    #OneTeamOneNation

    #PackersNation

    #GoPackGo!🧀

  39. Rob Brzezinski is a Magician spewed the following foolishness:
    January 8, 2019 at 11:47 am

    Maybe Viking trolls are never right, but knowledgeable Viking fans are often right. Let me name just a few things that Viking fans knew before the rest of you got on board:

    – Ted Thompson can’t build a team and should be fired.
    – Mike McCarthy isn’t a good coach and should be fired.
    —————————————————————————————————-

    Since there are no knowledgeable Vikings fans, I’ll explain it to you and keep it in small words Vikings fans can understand.

    – Ted Thompson could and did build a team. In fact, he built a team that won more Super Bowls than the Vikings have won in their existence.

    – Mike McCarthy won more Super Bowls as a coach than all Vikings coaches combined.

    You could have just said that Rodgers is declining or that everybody knew the Packers couldn’t compete this past season and you would have looked like you knew something. In typical troll fashion you tried to go too far and fell flat on your face.

    If you want to learn about football please feel free to ask questions. You may not have to look so silly in the future.

  40. stellarperformance says:
    January 8, 2019 at 12:00 pm

    Rodgers is among very few active quarterbacks that can real-time assess the defense and make play changes on the fly. If the new coach likes to win, he’ll love Rodgers. There won’t be any “follow the futility script” oftentimes found with “guaranteed” quarterbacks. That’s called pretending, and it’s sustained with large amounts of wishing, hoping, and praying.
    ___________

    So how do you explain his 6-9-1 record this season? If he’s making changes on the fly all the time, the record can’t be McCarthy’s fault, right? Or was he just “following the futility script” McCarthy gave him? And if Rodgers is changing plays based on the defense, why hire an offensive coach? You know, that defense could use a little work.

  41. lawrenceofalabia says:
    January 8, 2019 at 1:21 pm

    Since there are no knowledgeable Vikings fans, I’ll explain it to you and keep it in small words Vikings fans can understand.

    – Ted Thompson could and did build a team. In fact, he built a team that won more Super Bowls than the Vikings have won in their existence.

    – Mike McCarthy won more Super Bowls as a coach than all Vikings coaches combined.

    You could have just said that Rodgers is declining or that everybody knew the Packers couldn’t compete this past season and you would have looked like you knew something. In typical troll fashion you tried to go too far and fell flat on your face.

    If you want to learn about football please feel free to ask questions. You may not have to look so silly in the future.
    _____________

    Wow, Thompson and McCarthy must be two of the all-time greats and didn’t just ride Rodgers’ coat tails to success. I do have one question: Please explain why they were both fired.

  42. screamingyellowzonkers says:
    January 8, 2019 at 1:13 pm

    And Green Bay hires Matt LaFleur?
    This is the coaching hire that lives up to the “greatest coaching position available”?

    It might be, but on the surface, it doesn’t make sense.
    ___________________________________

    It doesn’t make sense, because everyone is trying to guess how good or bad he is going to be, or don’t have as much information and background on the guy to feel that makes sense Doug Pederson didn’t make “Sense” to people a few seasons ago, does it make sense today?

    People are trying to jump to conclusions on the hire, and we aren’t even to the divisional round of the playoffs. Its going to be bad bad enough after week 1 one of the preseason when people are crowning him, or crucifying him, and they run vanilla schemes then.

  43. boiler72 says:

    Rushed? They have had a head coach opening for five weeks now. This move is hardly rushed at all.
    ###

    They couldn’t, and didn’t, interview any serious candidates for the job until after the season ended.

    Everyone knew they weren’t hiring either Pagano or Caldwell.

    The only thing the early start did was let them comply with the Rooney rule.

    So, yeah, they rushed the hire after McDaniels said no.

  44. Green Bay didn’t need to hire a head coach… they needed to hire a super nanny to keep their petulant QB in-line.

    To the Green Bay fans – the word petulant means child like and prone to temper tantrums.

  45. But when McCarthy was fired, all we heard from packer fans was “what a plumb job Green Bay is with Aaron Rodgers as the QB”
    =====

    Which is a half truth.

    The new coach MUST get through to Rodgers. The greenest-goggle wearer knows it isn’t a given old Rodgers walks back through the door. Same as Favre in 2000.

    If LaFleur can’t get between Rodgers ears, BOTH careers are over.

  46. Three days ago Purples were saying “Who isn’t Green Bay interviewing for head coach?”

    Today they are saying Green bay rushed their decision. Am I surprised at their inconsistency? I am not.

  47. Sure, I’ll explain it to you. First off, I didn’t say they were all time greats…reading comprehension doesn’t appear to be your strong suit…I merely told you how your comments that neither were good at their jobs is completely wrong. Both guys did very well for a period of time and were unquestionable better at their jobs than any Viking GM or coach ever. Success is measured by championships and Thompson/McCarthy lead the entire Vikings organization 1-0.

    Why were they fired? Like Ron Wolf before him, the game passed Thompson by. He hadn’t been drafting well for a couple of years prior to taking Randall and Rollins 1 and 2. Both were huge busts and that forced him to draft Kevin King and pass up a pass rusher in Watt. I’ve wondered if dimentia had set in for Thompson. In any case, he Ron Wolfed it toward the end.

    When it comes down to player and coach it’s always the coach that goes. After 13 years the message gets stale and guys start to tune him out. Couple that with a total diva like Rodgers who wants everything his way and there’s no way McCarthy could continue to be successful.

    I believe the problem is ultimately with Rodgers. He really seemed to regress this season and appeared to be much more concerned with the no int streak than with anything else. Maybe a new coach can do something with him. I don’t know. McCarthy brought Favre back around. I’m not going to hold my breath on Rodgers. He honestly seems like a jerk off and I think the Packers need to find his replacement now.

    If you need more help, please ask. I’m here for you.

  48. Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:
    January 8, 2019 at 1:25 p

    So how do you explain his 6-9-1 record this season?
    ___________________

    Rodgers was playing hurt for several weeks not allowing him to be as dynamic in the run game, along with poor choices made by some people, like Ty Montgomery running trying to return a kick he had no business. They were ALSO effected by officials throwing flags so heinous at one point in the season they literally changed the way they were calling penalties 3 weeks into the season, young WRs learning on the fly need to build chemistry with the QB, it takes more than one season, Viking fans know it takes time, look at the the Chemistry with Cousins and Thielen. Defense being HORRID at forcing turnovers for a good chunk of the season.

    So there were a bunch of reasons why the Packers record ended up at 6-9-1, and you can’t put the blame just on one person, there is plenty to go around, and I look forward to seeing how the Packers bounce back.

  49. It will be very interesting watching LaFleur construct his staff.

    So far I like his choices that have been confirmed:

    DC- Mike Pettine

    DL Coach- Jerry Montgomery

    TE Coach- Brian Angelichio

    #GoPackGo!🧀

  50. Why were they fired? Like Ron Wolf before him, the game passed Thompson by. He hadn’t been drafting well for a couple of years prior to taking Randall and Rollins 1 and 2. Both were huge busts and that forced him to draft Kevin King and pass up a pass rusher in Watt. I’ve wondered if dimentia had set in for Thompson. In any case, he Ron Wolfed it toward the end.
    =====

    .. Laughed out loud, literally

    Ron Wolf 2000 Draft (2nd to last)

    Bubba Franks – 6 year Packer starter, 3x Pro Bowl TE
    Chad Clifton – decade-long Packer LT
    Na’il Diggs – 9 year NFL starter
    Kabeer-Gbaja Biamilla – retired as Packers all-time sack leader…..
    Mark Tauscher – All-Pro caliber RT for much of 9 years

    This may be his best Packer Draft…

  51. Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:
    January 8, 2019 at 1:27 pm
    Wow, Thompson and McCarthy must be two of the all-time greats and didn’t just ride Rodgers’ coat tails to success. I do have one question: Please explain why they were both fired.
    ______

    They were’t both fired TT is now an advisor…… Anyway….. they had a team that was contending for a Superbowl berth in an NFC title game before Rodgers even STARTED his first game in GB, here is another reason, and I have said this literally TONS of times, ROdgers wasn’t a HOF QB the first time he stepped on an NFL field. TT put a players around him, and MM coached them to help him develop into the QB he is became. If Rodgers was a TRUE HOF QB even if the Vikings HAD Culpepper they should have taken him… the fact IS he wasn’t…..

    The reason MM was fired is because he was coaching the team for a VERY long time tied for longest tenure in NFC and only behind guys like Lewis in Cinci at the time, and Belichek, in fact the ONLY HC Rodgers ever had int he NFL, and it was time for a fresh start for EVERYONE. The Vikings should know the need to change the voice at the top in the since the VIkings became a team only two coaches have coached 7 or more seasons… MM was in GB for over a decade.

  52. With exception of Ray Rhodes, the packers have hit well on head coaches over the past 30 years. They know what they need and they get who they want. Who wouldn’t want to coach there? No owner mucking things up. Loyal fan base. Great facilities and stadium. Low crime city. Aaron Rodgers with a few good years left in him. Management willing to spend in free agency. Not to mention, awesome pay. Lafleur obviously wants to be a part of winning and the Packers want to get back on the winning track. Besides, who ever heard of Mike McCarthy before the Packers hired him?

  53. Wolf made 2 HUGE mistakes in the end;

    Passed on Andy Reid in 1999, likely due to whatever friction existed with Holmgren, and Reids similarities to him.

    Then he thought highly enough of Sherman to endorse him as GM.

    .. although I think the lions share of blame for that should fall on Harlan. He could have vetoed such a move.

  54. With exception of Ray Rhodes, the packers have hit well on head coaches over the past 30 years
    =====

    McCarthy and Sherman are two of the worst big game coaches in recent memory.

    Almost of all their Playoff losess ended in disaster.

    They made losing an artform.

  55. It will be very interesting watching LaFleur construct his staff.
    So far I like his choices that have been confirmed:
    DC- Mike Pettine
    DL Coach- Jerry Montgomery
    TE Coach- Brian Angelichio
    =====

    I hope Joe Whitt is on that list. It would be a shame to lose him.

  56. “So what happened?”

    Decent chemistry with the G.M. and Murphy.

    It was time to get the show on the road.

    Lots of work to do with this team.

    No reason to delay.

  57. People forget Rodgers played eight games with a knee brace, two games with a pulled groin, and missed the last game under concussion protocol. He still outperformed Cousins.

    If he’s going downhill or if his skills are diminishing (more wishful thinking by fight-picking Viking trolls,) what does that say about Cousins? No wonder their fans are chewing their fingernails to the bone, again.

  58. If you lwant to look at a single draft, let’s loom at Wolf’s last. It may be the worst draft in NFL history (people like to blame Sherman. Before doing that find an article called One Last Time on the Clock. It chronicles Wolf and Bill Walsh’s last draft. It leaves no doubt it was Ron Wolf running the show). Wolf also blew a lot of first and second round picks throughout his tenure. He hit on a lot of guys in his first few years and really tailed off at the end. He got a player here and there. If you’re using Franks and Diggs to help your argument, you’re really reaching. Handing the operation over to Sherman was really bad too. Since Wolf has to be given blame for the complete disaster that was the 2001 he does deserve credit for trading for Ahman Green and somewhat salvaging his bad 1999 draft. Three of Wolf’s last four drafts were sorely lacking. So, yes, the game absolutely passed Wolf by. You literally laughed out loud for no reason at all. Laughter is good for you…no matter whether not it’s completely misplaced. It’s kind of like laughing at Jimmy Fallon. He’s not funny but people still laugh.

  59. packertruth says:

    Three days ago Purples were saying “Who isn’t Green Bay interviewing for head coach?”

    Today they are saying Green bay rushed their decision. Am I surprised at their inconsistency? I am not.
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    They interview more possible candidates than any other team (that I am aware of).

    After interviewing so many different candidates, taking the time to do a second interview is the normal protocol.

    I am not surprised that Green Bay didn’t follow normal protocol. They are the only franchise without a real owner.

  60. shaggytoodle says:
    January 8, 2019 at 2:25 pm
    Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:
    January 8, 2019 at 1:25 p

    So how do you explain his 6-9-1 record this season?
    ___________________

    Rodgers was playing hurt for several weeks not allowing him to be as dynamic in the run game, along with poor choices made by some people, like Ty Montgomery running trying to return a kick he had no business. They were ALSO effected by officials throwing flags so heinous at one point in the season they literally changed the way they were calling penalties 3 weeks into the season, young WRs learning on the fly need to build chemistry with the QB, it takes more than one season, Viking fans know it takes time, look at the the Chemistry with Cousins and Thielen. Defense being HORRID at forcing turnovers for a good chunk of the season.

    So there were a bunch of reasons why the Packers record ended up at 6-9-1, and you can’t put the blame just on one person, there is plenty to go around, and I look forward to seeing how the Packers bounce back.
    __________

    Let’s see…injuries, officiating, youth…I think you forgot “bad luck” on the Packer Fan Excuse-O-Meter.

    Sometimes it takes more than one year between QB and WR, but I don’t think Cousins and Thielen are the best example of that. Do you remember Thielen breaking the record for 100-yard games to start the season? Do you remember Stefon Diggs catching 9 passes for 182 yards and TD in his first game playing with Sam Bradford? You should, it was against the Packers.

  61. stellarperformance says:
    January 8, 2019 at 3:17 pm

    People forget Rodgers played eight games with a knee brace, two games with a pulled groin, and missed the last game under concussion protocol. He still outperformed Cousins.
    _________

    By what metric? Wins? No. Touchdowns? No. Passer rating? No.

    Oh, I forgot. Total yards passing is the only metric that matters to you. That means Derek Carr is better than Drew Brees.

  62. Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:
    January 8, 2019 at 4:17 pm
    By what metric? Wins? No. Touchdowns? No. Passer rating? No.
    Oh, I forgot. Total yards passing is the only metric that matters to you. That means Derek Carr is better than Drew Brees.
    //////////////////////////////////////////

    If you think there’s a problem, I suggest you take it up with the NFL. That’s where I got my info, and they own the whole show. Whine to them.

  63. lawrence,

    You said the game passed Wolf by, which is nonsense.

    Props for mentioning the Ahman Green trade, which also happened in that 2000 off-season. Green, Cliffy, Tausher and KGB were keys to Shermans team. He wins squat without them. Cliffy was key to a SUPER BOWL. His man never SNIFFED Rodgers in Super Bowl XLV.

    3 of Wolfs last 4 Drafts were lacking? Again, 2000 is arguably his best in GB

    1998
    *1998 Supplemental pick spent on Mike Wahle, who was an All-Pro caliber G
    Vonnie Holliday – 15 years in the League
    Matt Hasselbeck – 19 years in the League.. 7th rounder.. traded for a top-10 pick
    .. but he passed on Randy Moss here, which no one will ever forget

    1999 – another GREAT Draft!
    Antuan Edwards – 7 years in the League
    Fred Vinson – traded for Ahman Green
    Mike McKenzie – 11 years in the League.. traded
    Cleditus Hunt – 6 years in the League
    Aaron Brooks – 7 years in the League.. traded
    Josh Bidwell – 10 years in the League
    … and this guy named Donald Driver, maybe you’ve heard of him? He’s the Packers all-time leading receiver, and missed only 4 games in 14 seasons.

    2001 – technically, Shermans draft, if you want Wolfs name on it, so be it
    Jamal Reynolds – BUST city
    Robert Ferguson – most DEFINITELY a Sherman pick from his alma mater, I seem to recall Wolf raving about Chris Chambers before that Draft

    .. they also traded for Allen Rossum in the 2000 Draft, one of the better return men in recent Packer history

    You’re clearly wrong here, IMO. Wolfs mistakes weren’t with personnel, late in his run. His mistakes were with the leaders he chose. (Sherman, Rhodes)

  64. If you’re using Franks and Diggs to help your argument, you’re really reaching.
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    Franks went to 3 Pro Bowls. He was a redzone threat, and as his career went on, he may have been the best blocking TE in football.

    Frankly, I don’t need Diggs to make my case.

    How many teams get a franchise LT, arguably the best RT in franchise history, AND their all-time sack leader in a SINGLE Draft?

    .. if you think 2000 isn’t a great draft, present to me what IS??

  65. Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:

    Do you remember Thielen breaking the record for 100-yard games to start the season? Do you remember Stefon Diggs catching 9 passes for 182 yards and TD in his first game playing with Sam Bradford? You should, it was against the Packers.
    ______________________________

    Do you remember Diggs having less than 50 yards recieving in half the games last season? Or theilen only having 1, 100 yard game after Halloween which happened to come against that banged up or Bad WHICHEVER you want to call it Packers defense. Do you remember Kirk Cousins showing Thielen how to run a route? Do you remember Theilen him talking to an opposing bench saying “it should have been all day”

    I do remember Diggs tearing it up with Bradford, I ALSO remember that he got over 80s yards after that week two game ONE time for the rest of the year….it wasn’t a chemistry thing… it was a GB let someone run free issue.

    It takes time, for the veterans, and even more so for the rookies.

  66. Are we really still giving packer fans guff? We have to hire an offensive coordinator with a lameduck coaching staff that is probably out the door after next season. Not exactly making this a very attractive destination.

  67. I told you to find an article. Until you read it, you really should pipe down about Sherman having culpability for the horrible 2001 draft. In it Wolf says that if they end up with Reynolds and Ferguson the draft will be a success. You want to say that Ferguson was because of Sherman and his A&M connections, then you may as well give him Green for his having been in Seattle with him. I believe Wolf gets credit for both.

    Your lists give years in the league. That’s wonderful. How many of those years were good or productive. How many all-pro teams were those guys on? Thompson found some good players in his last few drafts but, like Wolf, there weren’t enough of them. Packer fans have some bizarre ‘Ron Wolf could do no wrong’ thing. Was Bill Schroeder a starting WR for the Packers? Yes he was. That’s enough to say Wolf wasn’t doing his job. Wolf found Donald Driver, then tried his hardest to get rid of him. He didn’t bother tendering Driver and only because Driver wouldn’t sign an offer sheet with KC kept him in Green Bay.

    I’m absolutely right about Wolf and the end of his tenure. It wasn’t very good. Because he turned things over to Sherman I would rank it as a more shameful end than Thompson’s One thing I will never blame Wolf for is taking Holiday over Moss. He had done such a poor job drafting defensive linemen that there was no way he couldn’t take Holiday when he was still sitting there at 19. He also made the monumental mistake of hiring Ray Rhodes and then had to fire him after one year. That was horrible. My god. Going back and looking at rosters was painful. Travis Jervey was a starter. John Thierry was a starter. Wow, Wolf really let things go.

    Maybe I shouldn’t be as critical of Wolf as I am. He turned the franchise around and brought a Super Bowl to GB and did spoil us for the success the Packers have gotten us used to. If not for Wolf it would be no better for Packers fans than it is for Vikings fans. We have suffered through four, maybe five seasons of what Vikings fans go through regularly since ‘92. I don’t believe Wolf deserves the diety status he’s been given by Packers fans. He was like the blind squirrel finding a nut in 2000.

  68. I can respect that you don’t think Wolf should be a deity. But you also list the reasons why many put him in that class.

    He is guilty of one thing; his team got old in a hurry after 1998.

    Reggie, Sean Jones, Keith Jackson – retired
    Antonio Freeman and Dorsey Levens were never the same after getting franchised/paid
    LeRoy Butler, Gilbert Brown, Edgar Bennett, Mark Chmura – injured

    Favre was practically the last man standing of that group… yet they wouldn’t suffer a losing season until Ted absolutely nuked everything in 2005

    Wolfs drafts and personnel moves sustained Shermans run (4 consecutive 10+ win seasons) and Cliffy, Tausher and Driver were KEY cogs in Thompsons machine. 10 years AFTER Wolf moved on.

    Wolf >>> Thompson, that much is clear

  69. One thing I will never blame Wolf for is taking Holiday over Moss. He had done such a poor job drafting defensive linemen that there was no way he couldn’t take Holiday when he was still sitting there at 19
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    The line was a huge reason they went to back-to-back Super Bowls. One of the best in recent history.

    Reggie-Dotson-Gilbert-Jones… what do you need to draft? Its not like Wolf desperately NEEDED a starter.

    And Gilbert was a STEAL! The Vikes drafted him in the 3rd, then cut him!

    Bob Kuberski, 7th (’93) – rotation guy, popped for steroids one year, sat out (military)
    Gabe Wilkins, 4th (’94) – not much to write home about, but was a rotation guy
    Darius Holland, 3rd (’95) – rotation guy, loafer
    Keith McKenzie, 7th (’96) – solid role player.. 16 sacks 1998-1999
    Jermaine Smith, 4th (’97) – bomb, no doubt

    I’ve seen much worse.

    Thompson Drafted much worse.

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