“No way” AFC title game would be moved

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Russell Okung may be right.

Okung believes the league wants to keep the Chargers from hosting the AFC championship because the league doesn’t want the game to be played in the team’s undersized soccer stadium. In response to a report from Jason La Canfora of CBS that conversations have occurred regarding the possibility of moving the game, a Chargers source tells PFT that there is “no way” the game would be moved from Dignity Healthy Sports Park, previously known as StubHub Center.

The Chargers and AEG have a firm and binding contract requiring the game to be played at the facility. AEG would have to relinquish its contractual rights, and per the Chargers source that simply isn’t going to happen.

This is consistent with the information PFT obtained when first exploring this issue, at a time when the Chargers had a very good chance at securing the No. 1 seed. The issue currently remains moot unless the sixth-seeded Colts win on Saturday and the fifth-seeded Chargers win on Sunday. If/when those outcomes occur, full details will be provided as to how the Chargers and the league plan to stage one of the biggest games of the year at the smallest stadium in the league, by far.

71 responses to ““No way” AFC title game would be moved

  1. If the NFL was smart, they’d realize this is the future, just like in MLB parks– fewer seats, fewer fans, but more spending per fan while at the games.

  2. I’ve heard that the NFL has tasked Walt Coleman’s crew to officiate the game between LA and the Pats this weekend. Some of you may recall that Coleman made the infamous “Tuck Rule” call in 2002, which, coincidentally, was the beginning of the NE dynasty. Standby for some shakey and/or phantom calls. Sorry Charger fans.

  3. If/when those outcomes occur, full details will be provided as to how the Chargers and the league plan to stage one of the biggest games of the year at the smallest stadium in the league, by far.
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    It will be staged just like every other game at the stadium — Charger fans will be outnumbered.

  4. It seems the Patriots is the underdog here. The pundits love the Chargers. One even thinks that the Chargers will end the Patriots reign. Hopefully they are wrong again.

  5. Guy Hence says:
    January 11, 2019 at 6:45 pm
    LA? The Rams are playing Dallas this weekend not the Patriots.
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    Are you serious?

    smh

  6. terripet says:
    January 11, 2019 at 6:39 pm
    Ya cause the refs will fix it for the cheaters
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    What are you talking about? The Steelers and Broncos never even made the playoffs.

  7. terripet says:
    January 11, 2019 at 6:39 pm
    Ya cause the refs will fix it for the cheaters

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    They do tend to help out the Cheating Colts quite frequently.

    Why did the NFL never penalize the Colts and suspend Andrew Luck when all but one Colts’s football was found under inflated?

    Why were the Colts never penalized for failing to disclose Andrew Luck’s broken ribs?

    Why were the Colts never punished for pumping in fake crowd noise?

  8. As a Patriots fan, I hope this continues to be a moot point. That said, if this scenario were to come to fruition, it would be ridiculous to move the game. The Spanos family moved the team to LA, so whatever they might lose on ticket revenues is on them. As for those watching at home (and the advertisers and their $), it doesn’t make a difference if there are 25K or 75K people in the stands.

  9. I was there last year when Eagles fans invaded the place. I’ve been to almost every NFL stadium and let me tell you it is a great venue to go to and see an NFL game. You are right on top of the action. People will not appreciate it until they are watching games at the Inglewood place. I’m sure that place is going to be epic, but it will be epic for everything except how you are able to see the game.

  10. SWFLPC.INC says:
    January 11, 2019 at 7:02 pm

    Why did the NFL never penalize the Colts and suspend Andrew Luck when all but one Colts’s football was found under inflated?

    Why were the Colts never penalized for failing to disclose Andrew Luck’s broken ribs?

    Why were the Colts never punished for pumping in fake crowd noise?
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    Because Andrew Luck didn’t destroy his phone the day he was supposed to turn it over to the investigators or have ‘deflator’s working for him.

    THAT IS WHY.

  11. It’s utter nonsense that officials care one way or the other which team wins these games
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    It’s the equivalent of -mom and dad have always loved you more-

  12. People should not count Brady & co out. This is all premature talk until after the game on Sunday.

  13. Because Andrew Luck didn’t destroy his phone the day he was supposed to turn it over to the investigators or have ‘deflator’s working for him.
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    Where did this nonsense come from? It’s well known that Ted Well$ told Brady the the phone wasn’t needed. Well$ even praised Brady for his exceptional cooperation.

  14. Scipio_Africanus says:
    January 11, 2019 at 6:37 pm
    I’ve heard that the NFL has tasked Walt Coleman’s crew to officiate the game between LA and the Pats this weekend. Some of you may recall that Coleman made the infamous “Tuck Rule” call in 2002, which, coincidentally, was the beginning of the NE dynasty. Standby for some shakey and/or phantom calls. Sorry Charger fans.
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    You don’t have to put Tuck Rule in quotations because it was a real rule and nothing was made up about it. It was called against the patriots while playing the Jets in 2000 I believe but I’m sure you don’t care. It was a dumb rule, properly called, but I’m glad they got rid of it.

    Pats still had to drive the length of the field to score, Raiders had chance to score again as well before pats won it all. Let’s not pretend it was the last play of the game.

  15. notlistinin says:
    January 11, 2019 at 7:26 pm
    SWFLPC.INC says:
    January 11, 2019 at 7:02 pm

    Why did the NFL never penalize the Colts and suspend Andrew Luck when all but one Colts’s football was found under inflated?

    Why were the Colts never penalized for failing to disclose Andrew Luck’s broken ribs?

    Why were the Colts never punished for pumping in fake crowd noise?
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    Because Andrew Luck didn’t destroy his phone the day he was supposed to turn it over to the investigators or have ‘deflator’s working for him.

    THAT IS WHY.
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    That’s like a cop accusing you of speeding with no radar gun and then saying he needs to go through your personal cell phone. See how dumb that sounds? You are in the crowd that thinks the OTHER guys phone which they do have possession doesn’t have text messages already from sender. And Brady’s lawyer supplied thousands of pages of messages from his phone, per the Ted Wells report. They had nothing, found nothing. Go back to reading Mort Anderson articles now

  16. The nearly 2 decades of salty “tuck rule” comments ignore the key point that the first game to use the new rule gifted a narrow Jets win over Pats. That had big consequences for the playoff hunt and, for example, gav Gruden’s Raiders an easier home Wildcard game against Jets than they would have had against the (then AFCW) Seahawks with whom Raiders had split the season. That Jets Tuck Rule game gave Jets the 6th seed instead of Hawks.

  17. It would be poetic to have the Colts in Foxboro to receive another crushing defeat so we can see what shenanigans they try to pull this time instead of just playing the game. It’s been awhile since they orchestrated that illegal sting operation, but I can assure you no one in the Pats organization has forgotten about it. “If you can’t beat ‘em—accuse ‘em.” Didn’t work out very well for them though – they predictably sank into a spiral of dysfunction while the Patriots kept racking up Super Bowl titles.

    After it’s over, maybe Colts owner Jim Hearsay can deliver another rambling post-game locker room speech that no one can decipher. That ought to be entertaining.

  18. per the NFLPA agreement, Brady surrendering his phone would have violated his rights and the player’s agreement.
    He provided printouts of all text messages.
    Those that he communicated with provided their phones to the NFL orifices.

    They had nothing.

    The ‘deflator’ joke was a standing reference to personnel whose job included prepping balls the way Brady liked them.
    and…it was noted… “to the specification” allowed. Period.

    It is a disgusting feature of hate mongers that they seek to discredit and malign rather than appreciate talent.

  19. This is up there with Philly prepping a parade route. The Chargers seem to be the better team, but who knows?

  20. “The nearly 2 decades of salty “tuck rule” comments ignore the key point that the first game to use the new rule gifted a narrow Jets win over Pats.”

    Actually that’s not the case. The Tuck Rule was implemented in 1999, and through the first 3 seasons every team had it called approximately 1/year in favor of the opposing team, so before the Pats Raiders game it had been called about 3 dozen times in the regular season.

    You are correct however in that during the 2001 regular season that Jets had a turnover to the Pats reversed and given back to the Jets when the tuck rule was called, which had a significant impact in the Jets winning that game which they otherwise would likely have lost.

  21. raymondmac says:
    January 11, 2019 at 8:30 pm
    per the NFLPA agreement, Brady surrendering his phone would have violated his rights and the player’s agreement.
    He provided printouts of all text messages.
    Those that he communicated with provided their phones to the NFL orifices.

    They had nothing.

    The ‘deflator’ joke was a standing reference to personnel whose job included prepping balls the way Brady liked them.
    and…it was noted… “to the specification” allowed. Period.

    It is a disgusting feature of hate mongers that they seek to discredit and malign rather than appreciate talent.
    ===============
    the deflator was first described as someone that had lost a lot of weight. i see the lie has not evolved.
    brady was guilty as hell. nobody outside of ne believes he did anything more than what he actually did – which is to prep the balls to the specs he prefers, regardless of the rules that require otherwise.
    your entire legacy has been tainted by this, and other cheating scandals like spygate

    its disgusting that a team with as much talent as yours has had still resorts to breaking the rules. they deserve every asterisk the real fan base of the nfl throws at them.
    they will NEVER have the respect you so badly crave, cheaters.

    ps. gonna laugh my ass off this weekend when you lose. sunset for two yard tommy.

  22. Look at the haters still delving on Deflategate. You know it’s a sham otherwise why did the NFL never investigated the Steeers after their opponents reported their footballs underinflated two separate times? Hmmm? And oh… lest you forget the Patriots won two SB two times after Goodell cheated them again.

  23. A lot has to happen for the Chargers to host the AFC Championship game. I’m not saying it can’t happen. I’m saying he should be more concerned with his job than spouting off about the politics of the game and trying to manufacture motivation, when his team isn’t even in that position yet. It rings of arrogance and is very disrespectful to the Patriots, and to a lesser extent the Chiefs (because they don’t have a game against the Chiefs at this time).

  24. If it does work out that the Chargers get to host the game, it should not be moved. It is what it is, and the people that paid for season tickets should get to enjoy it and be in their own seats. I’d be livid if my game got moved just so they could sell more ticket.

  25. That’s like a cop accusing you of speeding with no radar gun and then saying he needs to go through your personal cell phone. See how dumb that sounds? You are in the crowd that thinks the OTHER guys phone which they do have possession doesn’t have text messages already from sender. And Brady’s lawyer supplied thousands of pages of messages from his phone, per the Ted Wells report. They had nothing, found nothing. Go back to reading Mort Anderson articles now

    I try not to get into these discussions (because it is over, Pats fans are going to argue for their side and everyone else is going to argue for the opposite. Will never be solved. Only fact is it is over). But no, it is not anything like a cop pulling you over and wanting to look through your cellphone. The cellphone is not material in a traffic case, unless maybe you want to count texting and driving. The cellphone is central to if and what Brady texted to “The Deflator”. So yeah, it is relevant and completely irrelevant to the argument you provide.

  26. The NFL makes their money from TV revenue. Ticket sales are a pittance in comparison. The stadium doesn’t matter.

  27. Spanos could care less, he is not loosing any $, they more than doubled the ticket prices from what they were in San Diego. All tix are sold and all games are sold out regardless who shows up and how many behinds are in the seats. (I know I am one of the few that actually goes over there)

    As a long time Charger fan I am bummed they are gone, I am still the team fan (could care less about the owner) but not as invested as I once was. I would love for Phil to get his ring, and then I would love to watch Spanos to put on a parade in LA that no one will show up at

  28. We in LA didn’t even want the Chargers. Greedy Spanos just moved in after abandoning their rightful home in San Diego.

  29. Do they really care how many people are in the stadium. Its the tv audience the sponsors care about. They have a way of making the stadium look like its full of 100.000 fans if they have too

  30. and while that had more to do with turning forearm guards into concrete and brass knuckles, its easy to see this, just own it, you cheated and you got caught. Move along.

  31. fm31970 says:
    January 11, 2019 at 6:30 pm
    If the NFL was smart, they’d realize this is the future, just like in MLB parks– fewer seats, fewer fans, but more spending per fan while at the games.
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    How is that going to make NFL fans spend more because they are in a smaller stadium? Unless they are lowering prices like the Falcons did, I don’t think that translates to each fan spending more.

    Baseball games are boring as hell, fans are stuck there for hours so might as well go get some more food while you’re there.

  32. I understand that people like to suggest that the league and the refs will “fix” a game because 1) people need a reason to complain when their team loses and 2) people just generally don’t trust the league management (and with good reason). But the league would not have the refs fix a game. If it ever came out that the league had done that, that would be the end of the NFL. I don’t think people consider all the facets of that.

    Imagine if the league were to fix it so the Patriots definitely beat the Chargers. What if that news leaked? You’re relying on all the refs, probably some interns, who knows who else, not to say anything about it. If word got out about that, the Chargers’ ownership would be irate — so would every other owner, because the league is sending a message that it will hand-pick the final teams. You don’t think owners of most teams would revolt at that notion? How about the players? You think the guys on the Chargers, Rams, Colts, and Eagles are okay with the notion that the league is actively trying to stop them from advancing? And frankly, given their competitive natures, I doubt even the guys on the teams that benefited would like it. Would you cherish getting to the Super Bowl if you knew the game was rigged to ensure you got there? No.

    Finally, and probably most importantly, do a little risk analysis. The NFL has been besieged by scandal in the past few years: Kaepernick and the kneeling, the concussion problem, allegations that the Patriots don’t play fair, players getting arrested left and right for domestic violence, Vontaze Burfict’s continued existence in the league…the NFL is hanging on to its public image by a thread. Do you honestly think Goodell would risk the possibility that people could discover that the games were fixed? Have you thought about what would happened if word ever get out about that? Goodell would be fired immediately. Fans would riot.

    Does Goodell want someone besides the Chargers to host the AFC Championship? Definitely. Does he want the Cowboys to make it to the NFC Championship? Definitely. Would he or any other NFL tell the refs to rig the game to favor a particular outcome? Not a chance in hell. The damage that would be done if that ever came out is so much worse than dealing with a Chargers/Rams Super Bowl. A rigged game would threaten the whole league’s existence. The owners, players, and fans would all be furious.

    It just doesn’t make any sense.

  33. What’s up with that 2×4 wrapped up in Gronk’s left forearm? Is that even legal? Hate to get hit with that.

  34. SWFLPC.INC says:

    Why did the NFL never penalize the Colts and suspend Andrew Luck when all but one Colts’s football was found under inflated?

    Why were the Colts never penalized for failing to disclose Andrew Luck’s broken ribs?

    Why were the Colts never punished for pumping in fake crowd noise?

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    You have zero credibility spreading these nonsense [unproven] conspiracy theories. Crowd noise? Seriously? You never saw a game in the RCA Dome, a terrible place for concerts because sound reverberated off the low ceiling and close walls. It was literally the smallest enclosed venue in the NFL. The sound was 100% natural. Pumped in noise conspiracy is for tin foil hat wearing haters.

  35. The real money for the league is in TELEVISION RATINGS, not stadium attendance.

    If stadium attendance was the primary source of revenue, all the stadiums would seat 120,000 people and teams would only be located in the largest cities. Green Bay and Buffalo would not have teams. There would not be “NFL Sunday Ticket”, Thursday Night Football, London / Mexico City games, etc.

    The Not Fair League [NFL] will have the third team on the field [officials] steer things to get the highest TV ratings possible.

  36. The NFL is not “fixed” per se… but it is influenced by calls. You only need one ref on the roll for this. The fact they “consult” with the league office on replays should tell you all you need to know about that. This BS is just icing on the cake. Thanks Roger. The game has been destroyed since this fool took over. I used to watch all day/all weekend long and now I can barely get through a game of my favorite team.

  37. As someone with eperience doing TV productions (but not sporting events) Id be interested to see what special type shots/production could be done in a micro stadium. Frankly, it should shoot more like a “football studio” show. If the NFL had any creative insight, might present a great opportunity to do production not typically possible; ie lots of tight shots in the trenches, etc. Seriously, it could be a great a GREAT telecast. In fact it may reveal a whole new way to shoot a game. Could be possibly a whole different perspective. It could be MUCH better.

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