Report: Kyler Murray wants $15 million to commit to baseball

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“I’m all about loyalty,” Dwight Schrute once said. “In fact, I feel like part of what I’m being paid for here is my loyalty. But if there were somewhere else that valued loyalty more highly. . . . I’m going wherever they value loyalty the most.”

Kyler Murray is Dwight Schrute.

According to Mike Leslie of WFAA, Murray wants a $15 million contract from the A’s. Otherwise, Murray will enter the NFL draft.

That’s a risky position for Murray. If the A’s say yes, he gets the money. If the A’s say no, does that really close the door on the A’s changing their mind later? That’s the dilemma any NFL team that drafts Murray would face.

If $15 million is Murray’s financial goal, that would peg his NFL floor in the range of pick No. 11 or 12, based on the 2018 contracts given to first-round picks. If a team takes Murray below that spot, will the A’s step up and match or beat the slotted contract value that Murray would get from his NFL team?

But what if Murray goes higher than 11 or 12? Would the A’s match the value of Murray’s rookie deal?

None of this helps Murray maximize his NFL earnings, because it introduces another factor — a short-term focus on what he’ll make via his initial baseball or football contract. The NFL team that drafts Murray will be limited by the slot in which he’s taken, and Murray’s decision to sell his loyalty to the highest bidder means that the team that takes Murray in round one could lose him to the A’s, if the A’s ultimately are willing to pay more for his loyalty.

105 responses to “Report: Kyler Murray wants $15 million to commit to baseball

  1. Imagine how much a headache this guy is going to be 2 years from now. Skips media day and now demanding money.

  2. “The NFL team that drafts Murray will be limited by the slot in which he’s taken, and Murray’s decision to sell his loyalty to the highest bidder means that the team that takes Murray in round one could lose him to the A’s, if the A’s ultimately are willing to pay more for his loyalty.”

    Is this the earliest an NFL prospect has started a holdout?

  3. Um, I believe there is what is called a draft pool for MLB drafts in which each team is allocated a certain amount of money to spend on that year’s draftees. Kind of so that, like NFL, the veterans are going to get a more favorable portion of money rather than some unproven draft pick. The A’s should not have even drafted him that high in the first place, tell him to get lost, he’s not worth it.

  4. I dont see the Oakland A’s paying Murray’s ransom for the rights to his services, he will most likely end up declaring for the draft. Hopefully some team falls in love w/ him & trades a bevy of picks to my Cardinals for the right to draft him.

  5. Now he is starting to tip the scale to MLB.

    His current deal with the A’s is peanuts compared to he would get to being drafted in the NFL.
    It’s not even close. $15 Million is at least enough to think about MLB over the NFL.

  6. Yeah, they’re not payin him 15 mil. So, he’ll be forced to take their initial offer or go the draft where he is just too small to play QB in the NFL and on top of that he has probably seen his draft number drop dramatically with these shenanigans…

  7. My first reaction is that I believe Murray wants to play baseball. Or,at the least, feels he will be more successful as a baseball player and therefore make more money during his pro career. The second thing would be to wonder who leaked this and why?

  8. Can’t wait to see who picks this future bust. The “experts” were all worried and knocking Mayfield’s height last year but all of the sudden for Murray the height question is a non-issue. Playing in a pass happy defense option conference and lacking the playing experience, arm strength, accuracy and intangibles of Mayfield make this guy a bust in waiting. The fact the idea of him being a 1st round QB is floated around is a joke. Anyone see Lamar Jackson struggle against the Chargers until the prevent defense being fielded against him? Murray is going to have the same issues.

  9. Cue all the haters. A young man is trying maximize his earnings, and set himself up to take care of his family for generations, but he’s a moron. More shut up and just do what you’re told, eh? How dare you try and think for yourself instead of taking what we give you.

  10. Okay, I don’t follow baseball that closely. Is this guy the next Babe Ruth or something?

  11. Some QB needy NFL team will make him a top 10 pick and he’ll be set for life with the contract.

  12. Some QB needy NFL team will make him a top 10 pick and he’ll be set for life with the contract

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    another party that doesn’t know how rookie NFL contracts work. Oakland should give him the finger and call his bluff they own him for baseball, hes way too small to do anything long term in the nfl. he’ll be back fairly soon begging for a standard top draft rookie deal.

  13. Smart kid, all he’s asking is commitment financially equal to what he would get from nfl

  14. Might want to update the article. Murray wants 15 million of new guaranteed money, in addition to his draft bonus…not total dollars. That puts him at just over what last year’s #8 overall pick got.

  15. The way I look at it, the guy has a right to get whatever money he can get. For all of you throwing stones at the guy, how is this any different than looking for another job then going back to your employer and saying you found another job hoping your current employer will give you a raise?

    I get the feeling any of us, if put in the same situation, would do the same thing. I’m sure people wouldn’t like it but we’d say too bad. So why doesn’t Kyler Murray have the right to get as much guaranteed money as he can? Remember Robert Edwards? These guys are one play away from a career-ending injury. I don’t think what he’s doing is all that wrong–and I’m a proponent of these big money contracts are ruining professional sports. However, their shelf life is limited and if he gets someone to agree to $15M why shouldn’t he try to get it?

  16. The problem he is causing for himself is doubt. If he does choose football, there will always be doubt that he could change his mind and go back to baseball, especially when he is due for a new contract and he is already showing that he is willing to use that leverage. Personally, if I was an NFL GM, he would already be off my draft board above the 4th or 5th round. Why would a GM stake their own career on a guy who could constantly throw the “well, I’ll just go play baseball” thing in your face?

  17. Once again you fanboys just don’t get it. It’s a business, maximize all opportunities to make the best deal possible. Funny how things like this make you angry. Don’t forget if he chooses football he will have to pay back the bonus to the A’s. Why can’t you people understand that being a pro athlete is a business. The teams will run it this way, why can’t the player do the same?????

  18. Murray has options. You don’t. Get over it! You go kid, you’ve earned this position through talent and hard work. Most of these Frumper’s here can’t stand seeing equal opportunity!

  19. He already signed a contract with the A’s — he should live up to his word. If he blew his knee out in the BCS game and ended his mlb career, would he be looking to return his guaranteed $9 million to Oakland. I kinda doubt it. Shameless.

  20. The A’s will do it. He will still be a garbage baseball player but the A’s will meet that demand. So I guess he doesn’t want to be the face of a franchise??

  21. He won’t last a season in the NFL as a diminutive running QB. He’ll be an instant millionaire in the MLB without the CTE. Hope he chooses wisely.

  22. This is one of those situations where the fans know better than the GM making millions who is supposed to know better…this guy is a flake…bad news waiting to happen…but some idiot GM will draft him before the 5th round…

  23. He’s bluffing. The A’s will likely call his bluff and tell him to declare for the draft. Don’t for a second think that the A’s aren’t reaching out to every GM in the NFL right now.

  24. No one has a right to play professional sports. At all. Ever.

    Yet, teams are so desperate to have top notch people in the front office, and top notch players, that some the will bow down to him.

    He’s not in the NFL or MLB but, already seems like a headache.

    Some team will bite the apple and deliver what he wants. Who’s really desperate next year?

  25. raideralex99 says:
    January 13, 2019 at 6:23 pm
    What an idiot … baseball has a longer career which means more money.
    ——————
    That assumes he is able to earn his MLB pay day.
    At the moment, all he is guaranteed from MLB is a $4.7 million bonus and a roster spot in minor league ball.

    $4.7 million as a minor league baseball player vs $35 million being drafted in the NFL.
    The financially stupid move, as of today, would be to skip the NFL draft.

  26. fartweasel says:
    January 13, 2019 at 7:16 pm
    He won’t last a season in the NFL as a diminutive running QB. He’ll be an instant millionaire in the MLB without the CTE. Hope he chooses wisely.
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    Nope.

    He will be instantly worth $35 million without playing a down in the NFL if drafted.
    All he has in MLB is $4.7 million.

  27. “He will be instantly worth $35 million without playing a down in the NFL if drafted.
    All he has in MLB is $4.7 million.”

    You’ve said that twice now and I have no clue where you are pulling that crazy 35 million dollar number from. I doubt highly that he will be a top 10 pick. When he gets measured at the combine and is less than 5’9”, than he may get a second round grade stamped on him and be lucky to get drafted in the final half of the first round.

  28. There seems to be a lot of jealous angry people on here who don’t like the fact that this young man has the leverage to get himself a nice baseball payday without having to wait 5 years for it. Or they’re just jealous that he has options, period.

  29. You’ve said that twice now and I have no clue where you are pulling that crazy 35 million dollar number from. I doubt highly that he will be a top 10 pick.
    ———/
    Baker Mayfield. $32 million guaranteed.

    But let’s say he gets $20 million gaurenteed as a late first rounder.
    That’s four times more guaranteed money by getting drafted in the NFL that what he currently has.

    Which is why he is now asking for $15 million from the A’s.

    My point is that he has no guarantee in MLB.
    It would financially stupid to leverage more money out of MLB because he and his agent knows there is no guaranteed money in MLB.

    Versus instant guaranteed when drafted by the NFL.

  30. Everyone talks about drilling him. If I were him…I would take my bat out to the mound first time I’m hit. Clock the pitcher over the head. Maybe next time they won’t think it’s ok to bean him

  31. norrismen17 says:
    January 13, 2019 at 8:53 pm
    Baseball all the way. Easy call. get paid. You can always come back to football ala Chris Weinke.
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    Nope.
    He has no guarantee from MLB.

    Which is why he is now asking for $15 million.

  32. As an A’s fan I didn’t like the pick from the jump and to be totally honest. Good luck on getting more from the cheap A’s. Who cry Sisters of the Poor and claim to be a small market ballclub, yet play in a top 5 media market. Sound like the A’s and baseball agent Scott Boras who always holds teams at ransom are about to get burned. If the A’s sign him and he’s great I’d be thrilled. But I’m not counting on it. Their team payroll last season alone was below 90mil.

    Signed A’s fan

  33. vaphinfan says:
    January 13, 2019 at 6:14 pm
    Imagine how much a headache this guy is going to be 2 years from now. Skips media day and now demanding money.

    —————-

    I don’t think he’ll be much of a headache, he won’t be worth a headache by then. 5’9″ QB? Please!

    What’s next, a 5’4″ WR?

  34. I’m just not seeing it in this guy. Everyone, including his own people are desperate to compare him to Russell Wilson, RW is taller and much thicker – to be able to sustain the beating.

    This guy, like Manziel, is scrawny….he’s a baseball player. I think he knows it, he’s just trying to leverage the media and the NFL Draft into a bigger baseball contract

  35. People may say he’s an idiot but he’s not the first to use options in one sport to leverage negotiations in the other.

    Elway famously used his potential baseball career as a way of showing he wouldn’t play for the Colts.

  36. How is Kyler Murray going to get $35 million in the NFL after being drafted in the 3rd or 4th round?

  37. @screemingyellowzonkers
    Kyler isnt going #1 and that fact that you are quoting that number as if it’s already happened says more than enough about you.
    Hes playing poker with the A’s., trying to leverage a mediocre hand into more money.

  38. mackcarrington says:
    January 13, 2019 at 8:41 pm
    There seems to be a lot of jealous angry people on here who don’t like the fact that this young man has the leverage to get himself a nice baseball payday without having to wait 5 years for it. Or they’re just jealous that he has options, period
    +++
    I’m far from being jealous for his lot in life. By no means am I jealous of any high tech inventor, wall street wiz kid, etc. I’m pretty much on the other side of the universe from that thinking.

    This is a kid that has accomplished nothing on the professional level but, he’s demanding X payday and treatment.

    Gone are the days where people had to work their way up the pay scale ladder. Nowadays, people like him, and you, it seems, demand to be highly paid, yet producing nothing at the level.

    You don’t get paid for what you say you’re going to do. You get paid for you have done.

    That’s the reality in life. However, some want to circumvent that process. It’s a shame.

  39. If he’s even 6’0″, he’s a top 5 NFL pick. But he’s like 5’9″. Once he’s measured at the Combine, he’s not going in the first round. I wish it weren’t true, but that’s the reality.

  40. He’s a moron if he thinks he’ll get that money in football… the odds are low even for first round qbs. 15 mil in baseball is WAY safer on risk and body. Cya.

  41. This is all about leverage. Play one sport off against the other. That’s fine, but when everything is all said and done, the dude better not be a bust or the media will constantly throw the term “bust” in his face.

  42. The A”s are small market team, can they really afford to risk that much money on an unknown? We aren’t exactly talking about an Elway/Yankees/Colts situation.

  43. jman967 says:
    January 13, 2019 at 10:26 pm
    @screemingyellowzonkers
    Kyler isnt going #1 and that fact that you are quoting that number as if it’s already happened says more than enough about you.
    Hes playing poker with the A’s., trying to leverage a mediocre hand into more money.
    ——–
    Well, he is leveraging the A’s to get a guaranteed salary. That’s my point.
    Must people here are saying “play baseball, more money, less injury”
    The problem with that is he has zero guaranteed money in MLB at this point. (Other than his $4.7 million bonus)
    Why people can’t see this is beyond me.

    If you could get $4.7 million guaranteed (his MLB bonus) or $15 Million plus(getting drafted in the NFL) guaranteed which would you take?
    And if he gets drafted top 10 he could be looking at $20, $25, $30 million guaranteed.
    Baker Mayfield got $32 million guaranteed.

    If he gets his $15 million from the A’s, then I agree he should play baseball instead of football.

    If you can’t understand what he is trying to, that’s your problem.

  44. Undraftable.. teams aren’t gonna waste a high pick on a guy that isn’t even committed to the sport.. not to mention limited in stature

  45. @screamingyellowzoners

    I know what he is trying to do. The issue I have is that his NFL prospects are way overblown. You are pegging him as the first overall, which is absolutely nuts. He struggles to read progressions over the middle of the field in college. That’s what most of his throws were outside. When teams see this on his tape, it’s going to severely drop his draft stock. You would be insane to draft a QB who likely isnt going to be able to use 1/2 the field on any given down. If you can’t understand that, that’s your problem.

  46. toldlikeitis says:
    January 13, 2019 at 6:32 pm
    Can’t wait to see who picks this future bust. The “experts” were all worried and knocking Mayfield’s height last year but all of the sudden for Murray the height question is a non-issue. Playing in a pass happy defense option conference and lacking the playing experience, arm strength, accuracy and intangibles of Mayfield make this guy a bust in waiting. The fact the idea of him being a 1st round QB is floated around is a joke. Anyone see Lamar Jackson struggle against the Chargers until the prevent defense being fielded against him? Murray is going to have the same issues.
    __________________________________________________________________

    I am not sure Murray will be a good QB because of his size but to say he doesnt have the intangibles, accuracy and arm strength of Mayfield is flatout false. #1 Kyler Murray is also deadly accurate w/ a stronger arm than Baker Mayfield has, Mayfield is not known for his arm strength as he has an AVG arm & his intangibles are far better than Mayfield because he’s just as accurate w/ a stronger arm than Mayfield but far far faster on the move & is much more elusive. You knock Murray for playing in a pass happy offense in a conference not known for defense, well he played for the SAME SCHOOL MAYFIELD DID IN THE SAME PASS HAPPY OFFENSE !!!!! If Murray was two inch’s taller he’d be a better prospect than Mayfield was coming out.

  47. He’s got an opportunity to get paid an extra $10 mil. Are we really going to call him disloyal for pursuing that? Everyone always wants to call players greedy and defend the billionaire owners.

  48. For those saying he should just stick with baseball for the long term money he’s bound to make vs where he could fizzle out in the NFL, I give you the #9 overall picks of the MLB draft of the past 10 years

    Keston Hiura
    Matt Manning
    Ian Happ
    Jeff Hoffman
    Austin Meadows
    Andrew Heaney
    Javy Baez
    Karsten Whitson
    Jacob Turner
    Aaron Crow

    For non baseball fans, Baez is an all star while Heaney and Happ are in the big leagues but very average players. The other seven I’ve never heard of. Baseball pulls from such an international pool that the draft is not as important as football.

    And he’s short which hurts his future as a QB. It’s no sure thing he makes it in either sport. Can’t fault the kid for trying to maximize what might be the biggest contract he’ll ever get.

  49. Nobody tackles centerfielders. Let alone angry, juiced up 400-lb men.

    He should go baseball: they enjoy longer careers with contracts that are fair to players. Plus better working conditions (sunning in centerfield)…I’d stick with the A’s if I had a chance.

  50. These negative comments are hilarious. The kid has put in enough work to be a top prospect in two major sports, but these dudes sitting on a couch slugging beers know better.

  51. Edward Halverson says:
    January 13, 2019 at 6:10 pm
    If he is smart, he will play baseball.

    Kid is just too small for the NFL
    —————————————————————————————-
    Only ONE person knows how good of an NFL QB Kyler Murray will be…and that is “Calamari”. He’s the only one that knows his desire, intensity to be great, and ability to adapt and excel in the NFL environment.

    If he’s smart he will follow his passion and dreams, and knock down any barriers in front of him. The best and surefire way to fail is to never try.

  52. jurgyisgod says:
    January 13, 2019 at 7:11 pm

    He already signed a contract with the A’s — he should live up to his word. If he blew his knee out in the BCS game and ended his mlb career, would he be looking to return his guaranteed $9 million to Oakland. I kinda doubt it. Shameless.

    ——————————

    He signed a contract. He breaks the contract, then he has to give back the money they paid him already. He didn’t give his word, he accepted a job.

    If you were interviewing for jobs, and you had one job that would pay you three times more than the previous job you accepted was (before you started working for that company),you’re saying that you wouldn’t take the job paying more?

    Get out of here with that nonsense.

    PS – The MLB should be ponying up. Not just the As. It would be a huge coup for the MLB to take a projected top 10 NFL player. This has only happened a handful of times in history but never an NFL player of this magnitude. Jeff Smaradzija was projected to be a late first/early second round NFL draft pick, and he’s the only one I can think of outside of Kirk Gibson back in the 70s that actually chose baseball. (Dave Winfield was drafted in the NBA and NFL, but NFL was never really an option, he was the greatest all around team sports athlete possibly in history though. That was a time where baseball was the more prominent game though).

    Baseball lost out of Jameis Winston, Drew Henson, and many many others to the NFL. I’d like to see them keep Murray.

  53. Seems simple to me. Play the one you enjoy playing more. If it’s even then go with the one that doesn’t carry a risk of your brain becoming mush

  54. He risks being undrafted with that. If you’re an NFL team and you want him in the 2nd round why pick him? You know he’s not going to get 15M guaranteed, so he’ll instead go play baseball.

    So if you value him high 1st round, draft him, otherwise don’t.

    He’s gambling that teams think a 5’9″ QB (who looked mediocre passing in his bowl game, at best) is a high 1st round pick. Big gamble.

  55. I understand what he is TRYING to do, but it is risky. Suppose the As don’t think he’s worth that much. They won’t pay it. THen teams in the NFL don’t think a 5’9″ QB (have there ever been running QBs from conferences with weak defenses who also won the Heisman that busted? Hmmm..) is worth a 1st round pick at all.

    Then he doesn’t get drafted at all, because why draft a guy who will make more money in baseball?

    So it blows up in his face. Not totally, as he still gets the 4.5M I guess.

  56. I’d start far away. I get the business side of this, but if he’s really not into football and is using the threat as leverage, does a GM really want to put its first round pick into that mentality?

  57. I don’t know what’ll happen to Kyler Murray but I think this is the continuation of a trend of players finally waking up and doing what’s best for them. Joe Flacco bet on himself and he won. Le’Veon Bell is trying the same and so far has lost 1 year’s worth of salary but gained FA. Murray is doing the same thing. Why would a guy who can be drafted by the NFL go into the dreck that’s the MLB minor leagues? Everybody commenting here does this in their private life. It’s a business; time for the players to treat it as such.

  58. NFL may pay more up front but his career will be much…much shorter. The smart money goes to the MLB.

    No problem with him trying to leverage his position into a higher salary. You would do it if you could.

  59. And if he gets drafted top 10 he could be looking at $20, $25, $30 million guaranteed.
    Baker Mayfield got $32 million guaranteed.
    *************************

    He could also drop to the 4th rd and get a rookie deal of $900k…who exactly do you think is leaking the info to the media about some anonymous GM slated him top 10?

    If he gets drafted top 10, I’d be seriously concerned about whatever franchise did that.

  60. I really can’t understand why so many of you are so triggered by what he’s doing. He’s a hot prospect in TWO multi-billion dollar leagues. He has leverage and he’s using it, so get over it. Get your money brotha.

  61. Know your worth kids. You earned the opportunity to play at the highest level and should make sure to get every penny out of your career that you can. This is just Good Business 101.

  62. I keep going back to what an announcer said in OU’s playoff game and he said “They list him at 5’10” and he is lucky to be 3 inches shorter than that” and we should remember that he played in a conference where defense is optional. Now I am not saying at all that he will bust out if he goes in to the NFL but I also do NOT think he will be up in the top 10 in the draft. I think he will be lucky to get drafted in the first round. Haskins will go before he does and there are other QB’s to be had through trades (Foles or Wentz) or free agency (Bridgewater if he is a FA) who have played before.

  63. Why would the As guarantee him anything. Let him join the draft. He’ll likely be a late round pick if at all (see above, if you’re drafting him the 3rd/4th round, there’s no point to it, he’ll play baseball, so you won’t draft him).

    NFL teams want someone committed to football. It’s a difficult sport. You draft someone who has one eye on the door in case things get difficult…who needs that?

    And who told you a 5’9″ QB would be a top 10 pick? I guess Flutie was #1 overall, right?

  64. gah05 says:

    January 14, 2019 at 12:48 pm

    I could be totally wrong but….did not look that great in the CFP semi-final game, nothing tells me he is that special.
    ——–
    You’re not wrong at all. Only looks good when playing defenses that are AWOL.

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