Eagles: Carson Wentz is our QB, but we’d love to have everyone back

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Eagles executive vice president of football operations Howie Roseman and head coach Doug Pederson met with reporters in Philadelphia on Tuesday and the future of the team’s quarterback position remained a major topic of conversation.

Roseman said that the team has “a lot of confidence” in Wentz and his ability to be the team’s long-term starter despite the injuries that have cost him time over the last two years. As a result, Pederson said that Wentz is the quarterback “going forward” but both men made it clear that they aren’t shutting the door on having Nick Foles back.

“We would love to keep Nick Foles. You talk about a guy we’ve drafted here and grown incredibly close with. Certainly, as we go into the substance of those discussions, no question … we’d love to keep him,” Roseman said, via WIP.

Keeping Foles would likely take a franchise tag as the Super Bowl LII MVP can buy out the final year of his contract when and if the Eagles pick up their 2019 option. That’s a pricey road to go down even if Foles has proven his value to the team over the last couple of years, so there’s a lot that still has to play out in Philadelphia.

77 responses to “Eagles: Carson Wentz is our QB, but we’d love to have everyone back

  1. I’m no fan of any team in the NFC East, but it’s my suspicion that both the Giants and Redskins wouldn’t mind having Foles as their potential QB of the future. I know Wentz is young and has promise, but man, I really feel like they’re going to regret losing Foles.

  2. There really isn’t much to play out here. Foles will walk and Wentz is the guy. It would be coach/GM suicide to try to keep both and manage that media/fan circus, not to mention they can’t afford to pay franchise tag money for their backup when there are multiple holes to fill on the roster.

  3. Foles will be starting somewhere else next season. Arizona, Jacksonville, Miami, DC, etc. all have needs and he’s got 3-5 good years ahead of him. If I were Philly I would be afraid of Wentz’s durability.

  4. As I wrote in the last article with nothing changing from an hour ago…

    waynefontesismyfather says:
    It’s time for Nick Foles to take a stand

    Yeah, he needs to go into the locker room, empty Carson’s locker out into a big bag and dump it out in the lobby. Then go back and put a big sign over his locker that says “MY Team”

    #TeamFoles #KeepFoles #CarsonWho

  5. When your starting qb is getting the reputation of being “made of glass”, you had better have a backup who can win games. Foles value, at this time, is equivalent to a starting qb for the Eagles.

  6. Of course the Eagles would love to keep Nick Foles and Carson Wentz but unless you convince one of those guys that less money and not actually playing football during your prime, (barring the other getting hurt), is the way to go then why are they playing semantic games?

    I’m an Eagles fan but the prospect of holding Nick Foles hostage and denying him a big payday and the chance to lead his own team is absolutely disgusting to me!

    He led us to our only Lombardi Trophy. Let’s show some gratitude and not make him pay back the $2 million signing bonus and let him choose where he wants to go!

    Is that too much to ask?

  7. This team tried to pull one too many rabbits out of the hat and the clock struck midnight on them because a receiver couldn’t do his job. They MUST keep Foles because Wentz may be the future, but for now he cannot stay healthy over 16 games and if they don’t know when or how his back was injured then it could be something chronic no matter what anyone says. Foles won’t be cheap insurance but even expensive insurance is better then no insurance and if you take what has happened to Wentz over the end of the last two seasons Philly better have another quality QB in the bullpen because he keeps breaking down. It is what it is.

  8. TruthfulDolphinsFanNotWearingBlinders says:
    January 15, 2019 at 12:51 pm
    Bad decision, Foles is simply better.

    —————————————-

    How many games that Wents started did you see the last 3 years? If you saw any you would know your remark is ludicrous.

    They run 2 different styles of offense. Wentz just has to know when to give up on the play. Live to play another day. When he gets that down, and stops putting himself in harm’s way, he will clearly be better.

  9. Hopefully this media/fan driven nonsense has finally been laid to rest. People are thinking with their heart and emotions, not with their head. The Eagles saw an elite QB in 2017 (Wentz), they gave up major capital to get that talent so Howie Roseman and Doug Pederson Wentz is tethered to Wentz. To think otherwise is sheer folly!

    FLY EAGLES FLY til the day I die!!!!

  10. 2 out of 3 years losing seasons with wentz he has better numbers this year than last year yet the team was 6-7 with wentz that speaks volumes on how the team feels about him never won a playoff game many games under 500 vs winning teams it takes a team to win it’s not about individual stats it’s about wins and losses the team plays much better with foles they hate playing for wentz case closed. it’s not about who is better many QB are better than Brady yet Brady always wins its about who fits the team and system the best . Foles fits the team and gels. Foles is like Brady. Wentz will never win . Wentz is 6-7 this year and played the easiest part of the schedule . Foles saved the season

  11. People who think the Eagles should trade Wentz: casual observers.
    People who know Foles is limited: people who have been watching every snap this team has played since they can remember.

  12. Wentz is overrated. Eagles wouldn’t have made the playoffs if he played the whole season #facts

  13. Foles is clearly the better qb right now and has some serious mojo going on but Wentz is the obvious long term qb, as he should be. Just because he’s had two injuries doesn’t mean squat. He’s young and has shown tremendous athletic and leadership ability. I think his 2019 season will prove his worth and quiet a lot of the doubters, especially if the team drafts well and can keep some of its free agents. Foles should end up in Miami or Jax but not likely in the NFC.

  14. Wentz is great right up till the season ending injury occurs. 2 years, 2 season ending injuries. I don’t think I would feel real comfortable counting on him. Now if I was a backup QB looking to audition for a starting gig somewhere else, well Philly is probably the best place to be.

  15. Philly must find a very good backup if they are to be successful long term. Wentz’s health is unreliable, especially with back issues. As a Cowboy fan, we lived thru the back issue nightmare with Romo. Not a pretty picture. And the argument that Wentz is younger and therefore Romo does not apply does not wash. Back injuries, at any age, are serious and career threatening (I have litigated back injury cases for years and I know the meds on this). And Wentz’ playing style invites more serious injuries. BTW, the eye test tells me the Iggles are better with Foles than with Wentz. Likely because they simplify the offense. Maybe a lesson to use with Wentz.

  16. Weird situation. Wentz MAY be a better quarterback (debatable), but Philly is a better team when Foles plays. I wonder if Philly enamored with Wentz’s potential, or his low cap number?

  17. Yeah and Patriots should have kept JimmyG and JacobyB on the roster, and Solder, and paid… Welcome to the cap Philly, and why sustaining championship teams is hard and why Belichick is the GOAT coach AND general manager to have done this for 18yrs in the Age of Parity.

  18. I would have taken Foles over Cousins. Neither are a true legit “Franchise” QB, but I believe Foles has more to offer than Cousins. After the Vikes build up the OL, let’s see what Cousins can do with having more time in the pocket.

  19. All the talk this week I heard about Wentz (ESPN in NY) was about the obvious skin problem he’s having. It was very noticeable on the sidelines on Sunday.
    Don’t steroids cause that problem? Just asking.

  20. therealtrenches says:
    January 15, 2019 at 1:11 pm

    People who think the Eagles should trade Wentz: casual observers.
    People who know Foles is limited: people who have been watching every snap this team has played since they can remember.

    I’m a Cowboys fan, and this is spot on. Wentz is simply the more talented QB. Foles has some crazy clutch gene in him that aloos him to flourish in doses, but I don’t believe he is the answer over a 16 game season. As good as he’s been, he has had some bad throws and questionable plays. If the Eagles are fortunate enough to convince him he’s best suited for the role he’s hkept the last couple years, then fine, otherwise, id he wants to start, they need to trade him. Just my .02¢

  21. The eagles are $14mm over the $190mm projected cap. They are in the worst cap space of any team in the league according to OVER THE CAP.

  22. Everyone likes the take that Philly is better with Foles than Wentz… well averages per game, under Pedersen’s tenure say otherwise. I had this conversation with my friend (Philly fan) who wants to keep Foles. Stats don’t lie.

    First off, At the time I did these stats, was prior to the last game. Wentz has 40 games, Foles had 14, and I only took games under Doug Pedersen’s time. These included all of Foles’ playoff games except this past one. But again, stats don’t lie.

    Wentz’s averages are 253.8 yards a game, 1.75 touchdowns to .7 interceptions.
    Foles’ averages are 208.6 yards a game, 1.2 touchdowns and .5 interceptions.

    Eagles, are clearly better with Wentz on the field, and financially off the field.

  23. TruthfulDolphinsFanNotWearingBlinders says:
    January 15, 2019 at 12:51 pm
    Bad decision, Foles is simply better.

    —————————————-

    How many games that Wents started did you see the last 3 years? If you saw any you would know your remark is ludicrous.

    They run 2 different styles of offense. Wentz just has to know when to give up on the play. Live to play another day. When he gets that down, and stops putting himself in harm’s way, he will clearly be better.
    **************
    Totally agree. Wentz needs to take a page from Drew Brees, Phillip Rivers, Tom Brady and not try to force throws that are 50/50 at best. Heave it out of bounds and play the next down.

  24. therealtrenches says:
    January 15, 2019 at 1:11 pm
    People who think the Eagles should trade Wentz: casual observers.
    People who know Foles is limited: people who have been watching every snap this team has played since they can remember.

    ———

    Postseason wins:

    Wentz: nada
    Foles: 4 including a SB

    That is really all that matters

  25. Tough when your starter has missed significant time in each of his last three seasons going back to his senior year in college. It seems like once someone is injury prone he tends to stay injury prone.

  26. Maybe it’s me but it seemed like Foles missed a bunch of open receivers in NOLA.
    It also seemed like the Eagles offense employed much less formation variation and motion than what I’ve seen in the past from them.
    Whatever the case, Foles stock took a hit IMHO.

  27. Foles will not find a situation that he likes.

    Expect him to be back in Philly with an incentive heavy deal.

  28. Call me crazy but if Carson put up 30 points and threw 4 picks in 2 playoff games he’d be getting blasted.

  29. bigbirdsfan says:
    January 15, 2019 at 1:04 pm
    TruthfulDolphinsFanNotWearingBlinders says:
    January 15, 2019 at 12:51 pm
    Bad decision, Foles is simply better.

    —————————————-

    How many games that Wents started did you see the last 3 years? If you saw any you would know your remark is ludicrous.

    They run 2 different styles of offense. Wentz just has to know when to give up on the play. Live to play another day. When he gets that down, and stops putting himself in harm’s way, he will clearly be better.
    —-
    Some guys never learn to give up on the play. I said a few weeks ago, that he has maybe 1 to 2 more seasons to accept that. It’s an ego driven thing. It’s not easy to dump the ball or turtle because not giving up got them to where they currently are. Rare does it keep you there. How many phenoms were busts or short-term stars because they couldn’t do that? I don’t blame Foles or the team on what the future holds. $$$$$s make things tough.

    I’d try to pay through the nose for Foles for 1 season even if it took stupid money. That may not be doable. If Foles ends up not having to shower after a game and his uniform washed then Wentz is your guy. If Foles ends up being the savior then Wentz is not your guy.

  30. Some of my fellow Eagles fans are really sounding like the Foles situation is an abusive relationship in their minds.

    On the one hand, they talk up Carson by talking down Nick, (when you can talk up both and don’t need to put either down).

    Then they claim after insulting and denigrating Foles that he shouldn’t even think of leaving Philadelphia or he will inevitably fail as only the Eagles know how to treat him. They then bring up the past, ( not the great just the bad), as a way to limit Foles’ future.

    If that isn’t just like any abusive relationship you have ever heard of then I’d like to know what that is?

  31. Eagles fans here. Love Nick and what he has done here. He was great in 2 games last year. The most important games, but 2 games. He is a very capable starter, probably top 15 in the league. It’s a great story, but he put up 29 points in 2 games. They held the Saints to 20 points and couldn’t drive to get any points in the last 3 quarters. He had plenty of chances and made poor throws. Good luck Nick, but Carson is the guy going forward.

  32. Not as funny as the fact that Wentz has a Super Bowl ring and Prescott doesn’t (and will never).

    red says:
    pretty funny that Prescott has a playoff win and Wentz doesn’t.

  33. Carroll Prescott says:
    January 15, 2019 at 1:52 pm
    Carson Yutz has failed to complete a season. It is laughable you can call him your QB.
    ——-
    Speaking of yutzes, yutz, he played a full season in 2016. What’s your team’s future look like?

  34. All of the geniuses commenting forget one key aspect. Foles May very well pay the two million back – get to free agency and take 5 million per for 2 years to stay up where he loves it. Doesn’t impress me as a guy who needs 25 million to go suffer in football purgatory- no one in their right mind is leaving Philly for DC for example. Folks like Florio are discounting this mans soul when they say grab top dollar.

  35. dfwhawkguy says:
    January 15, 2019 at 1:15 pm

    Good deal. No worries about the Eagles making the playoffs next season.
    …………………………..
    dfw > dallas-ft. worth 😉
    Garrett-Dak can’t get close enough to smell Pederson- Wentz.
    Just worry about your own team and whether or not either of those two are worried about keeping their jobs going forward, since their fan base are looking to ‘take heads’. 😉
    PS – 2 playoff wins in 25 yrs don’t cut it!

  36. floriodalib says:
    January 15, 2019 at 2:30 pm
    All of the geniuses commenting forget one key aspect. Foles May very well pay the two million back – get to free agency and take 5 million per for 2 years to stay up where he loves it. Doesn’t impress me as a guy who needs 25 million to go suffer in football purgatory- no one in their right mind is leaving Philly for DC for example. Folks like Florio are discounting this mans soul when they say grab top dollar.
    _____________________________________
    Just one problem there chief: Foles has already spoken his mind on this and said the prospect of hitting free agency is important to him. Other than that, you might be onto something.
    This notion that because Foles comes from money means he is happy to be a backup is bizarre. You only get one shot at a career and I doubt any man would rather be a backup than a starter if given the chance to choose.

  37. Regardless of who they pick, when it is all said and done, Foles is the one that will have cheesesteaks for life, because he delivered the Eagles only Super Bowl win.

  38. Red- pretty funny that Prescott is the main reason they’ve won the division 2/3 years & just 1 playoff game. And while it’s true that wentz didn’t play in the super bowl/playoffs, he still has a ring & dak will never get one unless he’s a backup to a QB that can push the ball more than 7 yards down the field with regularity

    Foles>dak
    Wentz>dak
    Alex Smith (when healthy)>dak
    Eli>dak

    The only debatable one is Eli Manning @ this stage of his career. Nobody loves dak more than NFC contenders because that’s a Super Bowl worthy D & running game but in a throwing league, ya can’t win without being able to hit big plays through the air

  39. That was a poor start to my statement…what I meant to say is dak’s team has won the division 2/3 with him starting but he’s the reason they’ve only won 1 playoff game in those years …

    There, fixed it

  40. Just one problem there chief: Foles has already spoken his mind on this and said the prospect of hitting free agency is important to him. Other than that, you might be onto something.
    This notion that because Foles comes from money means he is happy to be a backup is bizarre. You only get one shot at a career and I doubt any man would rather be a backup than a starter if given the chance to choose.

    reading is fundamental chief! never said Foles ‘comes from money’….. you created that out of thin air. second, maybe being a FA is important to him because he wants to hear offers knowing he will need to be bowled over to leave and prefers to re-sign for less in Philly instead of being forcibly dealt somewhere without a choice. you arent too slick are you?

  41. winged warrior says:
    January 15, 2019 at 2:30 pm
    dfwhawkguy says:
    January 15, 2019 at 1:15 pm

    Good deal. No worries about the Eagles making the playoffs next season.
    …………………………..
    dfw > dallas-ft. worth 😉
    Garrett-Dak can’t get close enough to smell Pederson- Wentz.
    Just worry about your own team and whether or not either of those two are worried about keeping their jobs going forward, since their fan base are looking to ‘take heads’. 😉
    PS – 2 playoff wins in 25 yrs don’t cut it!

    *********************************

    He’s a Seahawks fan, who happens to live in the Dallas area I guess? He comments all the time, but maybe you haven’t been here long. However, had read more than 3 letters, you might have noticed that he calls himself a “hawk guy”

  42. floriodalib says:
    January 15, 2019 at 2:56 pm
    reading is fundamental chief! never said Foles ‘comes from money’….. you created that out of thin air. second, maybe being a FA is important to him because he wants to hear offers knowing he will need to be bowled over to leave and prefers to re-sign for less in Philly instead of being forcibly dealt somewhere without a choice. you arent too slick are you?

    _______________________________
    No, you only suggested that Foles would happily pay $2 million to opt out of a $20 million contract and then accept a 2 year, $10 million contract to stay as a backup in Philadelphia. I’d hope that a man that bad with money and contract math would only do so because money is no concern whatsoever, otherwise, why would you suggest such a ludicrous thing?

  43. if philly picks up the 20 million option -he can opt out for 2 million- and then re-sign with Philly for the minimum if he so chooses. Id suggest it because he already thought about retiring once because money wasnt more important than the happiness of him and his family. have you even been paying attention to the mans career?

  44. With Wentz on his rookie contract the Eagles have the positional room at QB to pay Foles but it would throw away the value of having a starting QB on a rookie contract. It is the same reason the Ravens will part with Flacco.

  45. floriodalib says:
    January 15, 2019 at 3:20 pm
    if philly picks up the 20 million option -he can opt out for 2 million- and then re-sign with Philly for the minimum if he so chooses. Id suggest it because he already thought about retiring once because money wasnt more important than the happiness of him and his family. have you even been paying attention to the mans career?
    _____________________________________
    We’re both obviously Eagles fans so I don’t want to argue with you or humiliate you but you’re only thinking as an Eagles fan and not using rational thought. I’d love to keep Foles backing up Wentz too but it isn’t realistic and presuming that Foles and his agent, (whom negotiated the current contract set to pay Foles $20 million for one season), would accept a 1/4th of that for one season is not even in the realm of possibilities. It is simply not a realistic thought.

  46. When your starting qb is getting the reputation of being “made of glass”

    I think you’re pushing it for the sake of going with the dimwitted narrative.

    It’s great that Foles stands strong in the playoffs and is a truly capable backup but only the casual observers and national media who don’t see the everyday ins and outs of the team feel that Foles should be kept over Wentz. A lazy narrative gets created for the sake of the juicy story and facts are ignored.

    Grow up.

  47. None of you have any room to mention Eli Manning in the batch of NFC Least QB’s
    He has two rings that he won on the field not sitting on the bench

    Dak well he is one of Jerry’s kids need I say more

    Wentz has to stay healthy for a whole season this year or he is going to be a ? for the rest of his years

    Smith is more then likely done

    No one in the NFC East has won more big games then Eli

  48. Terrible mistake. Wentz might be a big strong specimen, and appeases the eyeball test, but he hasn’t even been healthy enough to reach the playoffs, nevermind proving that he has the clutch gene necessary to make waves there.

    We know Foles is a winner. Wentz? Upside and unfulfilled promises. The better bet is clear.

  49. You aren’t humialting me brother- you just don’t know what you are talking about. You Assume that the 20 million Option wasn’t anything but window dressing to give both sides options. You are thinking of this way too black and white- the gray area is where this likely settles. Foles will take less to stay in Philly UNLESS he finds EVERYTHING he wants elsewhere- and that is unlikely to happen with the crappy jobs available. If you were Nick would you take 20 million in DC or Miami over less with us? Miami is on record that tanking for Tus is an option, DC is a terrible team, organization and has no upside. Foles will find is options limited- and ultimately decide to stay with us for less. I through 5 million per out as just a figure of speech. He will likely want more than that of course- but I don’t see Foles as looking for a payday or a starting job in a hell organization as much as he likes it with us. Period. I think you are selling him
    Short thinking he will want top dollar. He doesn’t reek of that at all to me.

  50. Record as Eagles starting QB in the Pedersen era,against winning teams (including playoffs):

    Wentz 9-14
    Foles 6-2

  51. @ winged warrior,

    “PS – 2 playoff wins in 25 yrs don’t cut it!”

    Really? But 1 SB win in 50+ years does cut it? Your team trails in SB victories by 4 to Dallas, 3 to NY Giants, and 2 to Washington. You are dead last in your own division for SB trophies.

    The Bills won 4 AFCCG in a row, and all the playoff games to get to the SB 4 yrs in a row. And what are they remembered for? Losing the SB 4 times. They aren’t remembered for playoff wins! Wake up!

    1 SB win in 3 tries is what the reality is for the Eagles. As an Eagle fan, all you had were playoff wins to point to BEFORE the extremely fortunate SB win last year. The Eagles came back to earth this year, and the Foles magic was stopped in New Orleans.

    Be happy with your one SB win legacy, and stop attempting to downplay other teams with MANY more trophies in their case, swifty.

  52. Why do some teams like the Eagles in this situation get a pass while others do not about the elephant in every team’s GM’s office- the salary cap?

    The Eagles must make moves to be at or below the cap before the league year starts. Many teams in the past have been excoriated on this very site about being that fast and loose with the cap in a year that doesn’t result in a Super Bowl win.
    Keep everyone- if most of them take a pay cut.

  53. Wentz has yet to finish a season. With his back problems there’s your answer. Sign Nick and get what you can for Carson. Thanks for nothing.

  54. “Foles is like Brady.”
    ____________

    Whoa now let’s throttle back on making that comparison. I’ll give it to Foles he was a hell a QB during his first tenure with Philly and played lights out last season and I don’t think even Eagle fans would disagree that he saved their season this year but like Brady? No. Why would anybody even say that? It’s not my team so I don’t care which one they keep, trade or whatever but Wentz is younger and showed he can also play at a high level. When it comes to QB every team wants to have a long term answer in place. Foles may be an answer but for how long? Wentz at his age is a good, longer term bet. All hatred, rivalry and jokes aside I’d roll with Wentz

  55. If I am looking at it strictly as what is best for the team overall, that would be Foles. No I dont mean Foles is better then Wentz as a QB. However, when Foles is playing, the entire team is different. The play calling is tighter. He has immediate options available and doesnt have to drop back. He makes quick throws more often. The team seems to play looser with Foles. I mean there is so much, but it doesnt mean Foles is the better QB.

    Id entertain offers on Wentz. If offered 2 1st and a 2nd, or 2 1sts and player and 3rd, Id have to put some real thought into it. That would fill this team with fresh young talent at our most needed positions and we will have our weapons still playing with a QB they know and play better with. Sign Foles for say 3yrs 55m and Im sure hed stay because the city is where his family is and hes all for family.

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