It’s time for Nick Foles to take a stand

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Last year, Eagles quarterback Nick Foles tiptoed around the elephant in the room regarding his football future, opting to accept the reality that he remained under contract in Philadelphia for 2018 and not jostling for a trade. This year, Foles needs to be ready to take a stand.

If, as it appears, the Eagles will play out Foles’ contractual situation in a way that allows them to control his rights for 2019, Foles needs to be sure that everyone realizes that he has plenty of power. From the Eagles exercising a $20 million option for 2019 to Foles invoking his right to buy his freedom for $2 million to the Eagles applying the franchise tag at $25 million or so, Foles should make it clear that he will gladly sign the one-year tender, refuse to sign a long-term contract with the Eagles or someone else that doesn’t take into account the $30 million or so he’d make under the tag in 2020, and prepare to go year to year, Kirk Cousins-style, until Foles gets a fair contract from whoever holds his rights or a chance to hit the open market.

Still only 29 years old (he turns 30 in five days), Foles has several years left in the NFL. It’s time for him to finally get a financial reward for his actual and potential contributions, and if the Eagles intend to apply the franchise tag as a precursor to trading Foles, Foles needs to make it clear that he’s no longer going to be a passive participant in the business aspects of his career.

Once that franchise tag is applied and accepted, Foles will have real leverage. And he will need to use it.

122 responses to “It’s time for Nick Foles to take a stand

  1. If they exercise the option for $20 million, how does it ever get to the franchise tag? If he says he’ll pay the $2 mil to get out, they then counter with the tag?
    I love how we it is said someone isn’t getting what they are worth at $20 or $25 million per year. Maybe one of these years owners won’t go so crazy on the salaries (no one with real high priced QB has won the SB yet, except maybe Denver with Manning in last year). Plenty of teams have certainly been hamstrung by high salaries (just as plenty others have been hamstrung by poor QB play)

  2. You really love telling people what to do, don’t you Florio…..

    Here’s an idea:

    Let other people make their own decisions about their own lives

  3. He absolutely needs to apply that leverage. But teams willing to pony up that big contract for him may experience some regret after he takes the helm…

  4. It’s time for Nick Foles to take a stand

    Yeah, he needs to go into the locker room, empty Carson’s locker out into a big bag and dump it out in the lobby. Then go back and put a big sign over his locker that says “MY Team”

    #TeamFoles #KeepFoles #CarsonWho

  5. The Eagles will do right by him. They always have. They didn’t need to offer him another year with a buyout option, but they did. If they trade him it will be with Foles’ blessing.

  6. Foles: “Let me get this straight, instead of being a free agent and choosing the best situation for me you’re going to tag me, trade me anywhere you want for a bounty of picks that only makes my new team less competitive?”
    “How about instead of that I will be the highest paid back-up in league history, refuse to sign any extension with anyone you trade me to and by the way….f u for not treating me right.”

  7. Is Foles really any better than Keenum? Am I missing something with Foles? Haven’t we been down this road before with him? Sure, he had a nice run last year but he’s nothing special.

  8. Tough to properly assess Nick. He fits well with the Philly system. Tough to judge him with the Rams because Jeff Fisher was the coach and a really bad one at that. But Foles over Wentz, not in a lifetime my friends.

  9. fmackaw says:
    January 15, 2019 at 12:00 pm
    You really love telling people what to do, don’t you Florio…..

    Here’s an idea:

    Let other people make their own decisions about their own lives
    ——————————————————————-
    This, so much this. Florio clearly wants to be a player agent will all of his “every player needs to demand the most money possible, who cares about winning and building a team, every player should be the highest paid at their position” crap that he spews daily.

    Too bad this comment will probably get deleted.

  10. Philly should trade Wentz to Jacksonville for draft picks [including their #1] – and load up. Foles just fits right with that team. — They’d do it. They’re QB starved.

  11. fmackaw says:January 15, 2019 at 12:00 pm
    You really love telling people what to do, don’t you Florio…..

    Here’s an idea:

    Let other people make their own decisions about their own lives
    ================================

    Don’t tell Florio what to do!

  12. you’re assuming a few thing here. Firstly, you’re assuming that he is all about the green, when everything he does and says suggests otherwise. Secondly, you’re assuming he wants to play football again. The only reason he opted to come back to Philly as a back up instead of retiring, is because he is a good guy who wanted to honour his commitment. I know it’s fun for us average Joe’s to discuss how much money other men make, but not everybody cares.

  13. “It’s time for him to finally get a financial reward for his actual and potential contributions”

    Um, he’s made 33 million already from the NFL, how is that not getting “financially rewarded” for a guy who had 1 great year as a starter and has otherwise been a journeyman?

  14. The Eagles have always had his back – which is why they gave him a reconfigured deal in the first place. Foles will have his say, they aren’t just gonna unload him with no conversation…if that is indeed what happens. He’s earned upward of $33mil thus far in his career, which doesn’t seem to drive him. Family a big consideration. Good luck to him no matter what. A class act. Eagles fans love you, always.

  15. If a mediocre quarterback like Cousins who can’t beat a winning team can get 84 million guaranteed how much can a superbowl MVP get?

  16. Seems like a no-brainer to me. Eagles use the $20Mil option to keep his rights (putting them $12Mil OVER the cap), Foles buys out of it for $2Mil (putting Eagles $6-8Mil UNDER the cap). If they choose to franchise tag Foles they are then OVER the cap by $17Mil.
    – Trading Wentz saves $0 on the cap and has $8.48Mil dead money and gets the Eagles at least 1 or 2 high picks.
    – Trading Foles frees-up $25Mil on the cap and gets the Eagles at least 1 or 2 high picks.
    They can’t afford to keep both for another year. Either way they’ll get some high picks by trading a QB… who do they think will last the year AND get them well into the playoffs? (not Wentz, IMHO).

  17. Foles had a nice playoff run last year, but look at his entire body of work. Other than that one monster year in Philly. His numbers are pedestrian at best, including this years playoffs. I think some team will be making a big mistake if they a trade for him/sign him.

  18. At least you aren’t demanding he take a knee like your heroes. Foles is a great guy who knows everything is going to work out for him. He has been well taken care of financially by the Eagles ownership and will be loved forever in Philly. Clearly, you know very little about the man and his circumstances to write something like this.

  19. The guy has never played a full season and just because he caught fire for a short period of time everyone thinks he should start somewhere. That project failed a few times

    He’s a grease fire, flares up but always gets put out

  20. Foles is going to do what he thinks is best for him and his family. He is an extremely spiritual man who’s bottom line doesn’t seem to be the almighty dollar no matter what some sports hack writes about him. Loyalty cannot be bought or bargained for.

  21. Dumb article. Foles needs to take a stand, what the heck are you talking about. Foles hasn’t made that much money in his NFL career, so he should do whatever it takes to get a big payday. Will he get traded if he accepts the $20 million, probably – also if he is franchise tagged. If he is healthy, Wentz will be the Eagles QB. NFL teams don’t pay for 2 starting QBs. There’s a salary cap and that $20 million could be spent on another all-pro position player.

  22. Foles and the Eagles would both love for him to be rhe highest paid back-up in the League. He will sign a 3 year $30 million deal with a $10 million bonus all guaranteed to sit on the bench.

  23. You might not like the way he wrapped the package but Florio is absolutely correct.

    Foles is in a unique position to have a definitve say about his future but he needs to be strategic. He should take advantage of it.

  24. The Eagles owe their Lombardi in most part to Foles’ heroics. That said, he owes them for giving him a second chance and surrounding him with a team full of great players, coaches, and characters that allowed him to be heroic. The Eagles should and will do right by him, but to think that they shouldn’t get any return is asinine.

  25. Foles isn’t a guy to maximize his money by being difficult. He knows all that does is put extra pressure and scorn on him if he performs any lower than at a pro bowl level for a game or games in 2019.

  26. Foles is an above average (Top 12) NFL starter with a bright future. The Eagles have found ‘lightening in a bottle’ the last two years, and would have never progressed as far as they did if it were not for Foles. With that being said, Foles is a humble man who will handle his future decisions with grace and prayer. He is a great asset to the game in every way and I hope he is able to make up for lost wage potential. I would love to have him on my team right now.

  27. I could see Foles replacing Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay right now, giving the Packers time to groom their next great QB…

  28. Instead of speculating, maybe the folks at PFT should actually ask Foles what he wants. Maybe he enjoys getting paid millions to be a backup qb, not taking all of the hits or any of the criticism, and being the most popular athlete in town?

  29. Maybe everyone and anyone just mind their own business and leave the kid alone !!! He’s a grown up and I’m sure he knows what he wants to do. He’ll get what he has coming to him !!
    Good luck Nick,
    make your deal !!!

  30. On what basis are you assuming that Nick Foles either hasn’t taken a stand in the past, or needs to take a stand now? Foles appears quite capable of making his own decisions, and I’m left wondering why you think you have a right to tell Foles what (you think) he needs to do.

    Seriously? Do you guys at PFT have any humility or sense of perspective?

  31. Foles has played really good football anytime he’s had an offensive line. He didn’t look good in St. Louis because he had absolutely zero pass protection.

  32. Dewey Cox says:
    January 15, 2019 at 11:58 am
    Not a franchise QB, I wouldn’t trust him for 16 weeks

    ————-
    Wentz has yet to make it through a 16 game season due to injuries. Franchise QB or not, that has to be taken into account.

  33. pbdisciple says:
    January 15, 2019 at 11:59 am
    If they exercise the option for $20 million, how does it ever get to the franchise tag? If he says he’ll pay the $2 mil to get out, they then counter with the tag?

    I’m wondering the same thing.

  34. Nick Foles holds all of the power:
    1. If the Eagles tender him at the $20 million he can either accept or buy his freedom for $2 million.
    2. If the Eagles then franchise him he can either sign the tender and work with the team on a trade or refuse to sign the tender.

    Nick Foles is in charge of his own destiny and the Eagles are delusional if they believe otherwise.

  35. I’m team Foles over Wentz for the pure reason that Wentz is the “future” but hasn’t proven anything. He had a great run first half of the year, like how many talented QBs do and then started throwing interceptions once the league figured him out. Also he’s been injured back to back, and the team plays better with Nick.

    Those saying that teams may regret singing him are forgetting one thing, only BAD TEAMS would regret team. The NFL isn’t basketball, one single player can’t Lebron James a team. Example, Jeff Fisher’s Rams. All the QBs were held back in that system and it’s obvious by how they played in a better one.

    If he doesn’t stay with the Eagles, I think he would be great for the Bucs. Seriously, he’s only four years older than Jameis and would be a significant upgrade. Or the Jags unelss they hire Mike McCoy for OC because he sucks hard.

  36. How many teams would sign him as their 2019 starter? Yes includes some Maybes, just for the sake of argument.

    New York Jets – No
    New England Patriots – No
    Buffalo Bills – No
    Miami Dolphins – Yes

    Cleveland Browns – No
    Baltimore Ravens – No
    Pittsburgh Steelers – No
    Cincinnati Bengals – Yes

    Oakland Raiders – Yes
    Kansas City Chiefs – No
    Denver Broncos – Yes
    Los Angeles Chargers – No

    Tennessee Titans – No
    Indianapolis Colts – No
    Jacksonville Jaguars – Yes
    Houston Texans – No

    San Francisco 49ers – No
    Seattle Seahawks – No
    Los Angeles Rams – No
    Arizona Cardinals – Yes

    Washington Football Club – Yes
    Dallas Cowboys – No
    New York Giants – Yes
    Philadelphia Eagles – No

    New Orleans Saints – No
    Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Yes
    Carolina Panthers – No
    Atlanta Falcons – No

    Green Bay Packers – No
    Chicago Bears – No
    Detroit Lions – Yes
    Minnesota Vikings – No

    10 possible teams out of 32. The majority of which have a starter they’re inclined to give one more year to or are in a position to take a QB of the future in the draft.

    Nick Foles really does not have that many landing spots. His two best options are in the NFC East and you can bet Philadelphia will do everything they can to prevent that from happening, even if it means paying him $20 million just to trade him elsewhere.

  37. Just maybe Foles is good making a boatload of money without all the pressure of being a starter. His life, his career. He’s already a SB MVP!

  38. A lot of people talking junk on Nick are making their judgements based on the time he spent with Jeff Fisher. I’m actually pretty convinced that Fisher could make the best QBs in the league look inept, and any time spent or stats accrued while on any team of Fisher’s should be completely ignored.

    Nick is a good QB, and one hell of a leader.

  39. First I don’t get where Florio or any posters think the Eagles wouldn’t treat Foles fairly. The renegotiated his contract to include a $2M bonus for winning the Super Bowl. They included incentives in his deal–he got $250K for every game he started and another $250K for every game he won. That was just n the regular season. Then he got $500K for every playoff game he started and another $500K for every playoff game he won. So he collected $7M which he was due this year, a $2M bonus and another $2.25M in incentives–for a backup QB.

    Second, they had an offer from Cleveland of a second round pick before the draft and after consulting him, they turned them down.

    The Eagles have until Feb 12 to exercise the option and then if he agrees to it, it becomes fully guaranteed on the 3rd day of the new league year. He can pay $2M to pay his way into FA.

    However, here is an angle that no one is looking at–above all, Foles is a family man and he has spoken many times about their love for Philly, he loves playing for the Eagles, etc. He’s made plenty of money from his time in St Louis and again in KC and then this stint with the Eagles. I’m betting that the Eagles tell him if he doesn’t get any worthwhile offers, they’ll negotiate a fair deal with him to come back–he knows and has said this is Wentz’s team.

  40. Foles deserves every penny he gets. He’s exactly what was envisioned when they wrote the word “Professional”. A team first guy that understands the bigger picture. A guy that has genuine love for his team and his city. I hope he stays in Philly and I hope he stays as the starter, although we know that won’t happen. So short of that I hope the guy goes to a team that is a perennial playoff team and SB contender.

    Maybe let the Steelers dump Dumb Ben and grab Foles. Or maybe the Jags, a team that is truly only a QB away from contention.

  41. Wow some people just don’t get it.

    Foles is a system QB. It happens to be the easiest system to put in place on any team with any players. The RPO is not some crazy scheme with a lot of verbiage and BS. Any team with their existing roster can do it. This is not a negative for Nick, another team just has to know they will be running the RPO style offense.

    Nick is not about the money, but he is about taking care of his family first, and he wants to start. The chargers after Brees injusry labeled him injury proned, how’s that worked out for them? Carson will be here thriving for years to come…. yes I know IF he stays healthy. You can say this about any player that means a lot to his team. How do the PAts do without Brady? They don’t win super bowls.

    Nick Foles is maybe a top 15 QB in a league where the following teams are in desperate need of a new QB:

    Giants, Cardinals, (possibly Carolina depending on Cam’s shoulder), Washington, Jacksonville, Dolphins, Baltimore (trust me on this one), Niners, Falcons, Buccaneers, Broncos, to name a few. That’s almost a third of the league. And this is ASSUMING all the young guys pan out. You can question Ryan and Newton, but I’m not. Cam couldn’t throw a ball more than 20 yards and how many more chances does Ryan get?

    I love how this post comes out the day of the Eagles press conference with Doug and Howie when both state that Carson is the QB moving forward and you start a convo about them tagging him or putting him in a bad spot.

    BS Florio, but you win because here we are talking about it. It of course being nothing because there is no story here.

  42. Man…you’d never know Brees, Brady, Mahomes and Goff are playing this weekend with all the constant Foles coverage. Get over it…Saints won!

    WHO DAT!

  43. “Is Foles really any better than Keenum? Am I missing something with Foles? ”
    ______________

    More likely you just haven’t paid much attention to Keenum. Foles has 2 seasons with a QB rating over 100 and he had a 96 this season. Keenum was a ho-hum 81 this season and his only time above 90 was that great 2017 season in Minnesota where he had a 98. You look up “one-hit wonder” and Keenum’s picture is staring back at you.

  44. @ Fwippel

    No, PFT has no humility or sense of perspective. They believe that their opinions are the smartest thinking that exists on the planet. They are the all knowing superior minds when it comes to anything pertaining to the NFL, its commissioner, its owners and players. and the union all get told by the lawyer what is best for them. It gets old.

  45. Nick Foles will forever be the man here in Philly. But, the run is over. Carson is more skilled and has WAY more upside. The legend of Nick Foles is a overblown as the size of his member…because let’s be honest, he had one REALLY GREAT game (LII), one really good game (Vikes NFC Champ), and a handful of OK wins riding the backup goalie theory (Hou, Was, Chi this season). The rest of his career has been very hit or miss. This discussion really has to end.

  46. Foles missed some key throws against the Saints, let’s be clear on that. He’s not an upper echelon type of talent who, by simply getting off the bus at the stadium, gives his team a real chance to win. Luck, Mahomes, Brees, Rodgers, etc., give their team a chance to win simply by showing up at the stadium on Sundays. Foles, not so much but is still a very good player.

  47. If Philly trades Foles, please tell me who’s going to be their QB the last 3-4 games of the season and into the playoffs next year when Wentz goes down again with an injury?

    And please don’t sugarcoat his injuries – it was a knee and his back, he’s literally made out of glass.

  48. Florio clearly wants to be a player agent

    Nah, consultant is a better job. Good money, responsible for nothing, flexible work schedule.

  49. The Eagles won’t exercise the $20M option, because they’re already over the cap for 2019. Exercising the $20M option forces Foles to pay the $2M buyout for what? To give the Eagles the option to franchise him for $25M? So exercise the option and hope Foles doesn’t buyout the remainder of his contract: Pay him $20M instead of $25M to be the backup QB with a new contract for Wentz on the horizon? Did I mention the Eagles are already over the cap for 2019?

    The Eagles can trade Foles, who has proven to be mediocre at best while outside of Philadelphia, plus a $20M or $25M pricetag and hope for better than a 3rd round pick. Or they can take out a nice page add or billboard to thank Foles for his services and collect a 3rd round compensatory pick thanks to whichever team overpays to make him a starter.

  50. fmackaw says:
    January 15, 2019 at 12:00 pm
    You really love telling people what to do, don’t you Florio…..

    Here’s an idea:

    Let other people make their own decisions about their own lives

    ————————————————————————————–

    This is the best comment I have seen in here in ages!!! This a 10 on the 10 scale!!! Way to go fmackaw, you nailed it!! It’s a 5 star comment!!

    Have you good folks ever noticed the only group Florio never sticks up for is the fans? He wants the players to get all they can get, but never considers how that factors in to what we fans have to pay to see the games. And make no mistake, we fans pay the bill for everything in the NFL, one way or another.

    fmackaw, now the only question is will they delete your post? When I have taken issue with Florio, more often than not it gets deleted.

  51. therealtrenches says:
    January 15, 2019 at 1:10 pm
    The “trade Wentz” crowd needs to pipe down. The kid’s got a bright future.

    ————

    Wentz = Andy Dalton 1.02

  52. papalurchdxb says:
    January 15, 2019 at 12:22 pm
    Why does he need to take a stand when he is already a tripod?

    ——

    You sir, have won the internet.

  53. The most important trait for ANY pro-athlete, is availability. Wentz has missed considerable time in both of his first two years. Logically, he’s not going to become less injury-prone as he ages.

    I couldn’t care less about the Eagles, nor their fans, but if I pulled for that team, I’d be quite concerned about what’s going to come of this.

  54. You don’t know Nick Foles personally. People that know him, including me, know he doesn’t behave like this and no money is not a primary factor in what drives him. He was rich before he ever joined the NFL.

  55. @RussianBreadMaker – You sound so ignorant, Foles played one season under Fisher in St. Louis and that is the entire “look what happened period”. By the way who were the other QB’s that struggled under Fisher’s lame and tired offense? Case Keenan and Jeff Goff, both went on to have pro-bowl seasons after they got out from under Fisher, Keenan with the Vikings and Goff while staying with the Rams. Foles struggled because Fisher’s offense was the most predictable and least inventive in the NFL that season.

  56. I can’t wait till next season when Carson is starting and the Eagles finish their season 9-7 or one-and-done in the playoffs. They are an entirely different team when Foles is out on the field behind the center. One more serious injury to Wentz and his NFL career could be over.

  57. Maybe, just maybe, Nick is one of those rare guys that doesn’t need to sell his soul for an amount of money he could never spend anyway. But hey, at least we know where Florio’s soul is.

  58. “Foles should make it clear that he will gladly sign the one-year tender, refuse to sign a long-term contract with the Eagles or someone else that doesn’t take into account the $30 million or so he’d make under the tag in 2020”
    ——–
    Why does florio feel like he needs to tell Foles what decisions he needs to make or what’s best for him? I’m sure Congress will make whatever decision is next for him and his family. I don’t think it’s likely he’ll stay in philly, but 20-25 mil as a backup isnt a slap in the face.

  59. Nick Foles has been a “franchise” qb before and it didn’t work out so well for him then. Perhaps he’d be extremely happy to take $20M to hold a clip board and stay in Philly another year or two? Also, I kinda think Philly would let him walk if that’s what he really wants. He’s been a hero to them and I’m betting they’d rather it end on a positive note.

  60. This is all much to do about nothing

    The Eagles are going to trade him to a team, say the Jaguars, who will pay him big money. There won’t be a need for drama. Case closed

  61. The Eagles are over the cap, so how do they come up with 20MM for Foles?
    Foles would be happy to earn 20MM as a backup for a year.
    Let him walk, and thank him for the SB and the playoff win against the Bears.

  62. Foles would be an appropriate successor to Drew Brees in New Orleans. It would just be very appropriate given they went to the same HS and Foles has always idolized Brees (that’s why he wears No. 9). He’d be a good fit if Brees retires after this season.

  63. @Sapience says:
    January 15, 2019 at 12:05 pm
    Foles: “Let me get this straight, instead of being a free agent and choosing the best situation for me you’re going to tag me, trade me anywhere you want for a bounty of picks that only makes my new team less competitive?”
    “How about instead of that I will be the highest paid back-up in league history, refuse to sign any extension with anyone you trade me to and by the way….f u for not treating me right.”
    ========================================================================
    One thing you’re forgetting…he voluntarily signed the contract. He wasn’t forced to sign it.

  64. Honestly I think he restructures to stay on as backup. It’s a great fit for all involved, including his family and the fans. Not to mention, keeping the fire under Wentz to keep improving and performing well. Foles plays another 3-4 years, then transitions into the QB coach. Not wishful thinking, I have no feelinga about any of it. Just looking at the situation and the available facts, it seems the most logical outcome

  65. thewanderer says:
    January 15, 2019 at 1:15 pm

    The Eagles can trade Foles, who has proven to be mediocre at best while outside of Philadelphia,
    ********************
    While you were running down the “mediocre” Foles, you forgot to mention Super Bowl winner Foles, and he’s improved a lot since he was “outside of Philadelphia”, so there is that going for him.

  66. smussato says:
    January 15, 2019 at 2:10 pm

    Foles would be an appropriate successor to Drew Brees in New Orleans. It would just be very appropriate given they went to the same HS and Foles has always idolized Brees (that’s why he wears No. 9). He’d be a good fit if Brees retires after this season.
    ————————

    BINGO. Saints win SB 53 – Brees retires. Saints sign Foles. We continue to laugh at the Failcons. etc.

  67. The Eagles aren’t going to put the FT on Foles. They don’t have the cap room any way you look at it. They will let him walk and get a compensatory 3rd in 2020.

  68. …”until Foles gets a fair contract”

    Maybe start with “if”, instead of “until”. There’s no guarantee any team is willing to pay him what Cousins received.

  69. There’s a weird thing where people take their opinion of a player/team/position group, and try to project that into a ranking, usually in the form of “he’s top 5/10/15 etc”, and it is clear that they didn’t actually bother to consider where everyone else falls on the list. In this thread alone, Foles has been described as top-12 and top-15. And it doesn’t sound wrong, because, he’s played pretty well, right?

    But if I start thinking of who would be in my top-whatever, it becomes pretty clear that Foles probably isn’t in the top 16 (better than the mean of 32 starters).

    The obvious ones:
    Wentz
    Brady
    Brees
    Mahomes
    Rodgers
    Wilson
    Newton
    Luck

    Then, ones I could understand debating, but are solidly better in my opinion:
    Goff
    Ryan
    Rivers
    Roethlisberger
    Watson

    That’s 13. I disregarded Darnold and Mayfield, and I left out guys like Dalton, Stafford and Flacco who have stunk recently but still could probably perform as well or better than Foles over a full season, or the next 5 seasons.

    So, yeah, as soon as I hear (or read) someone bestow “top-whatever” status, alarm bells go off. Yours should too.

  70. TheGuru says:
    @Sapience says:
    Foles: “Let me get this straight, instead of being a free agent and choosing the best situation for me you’re going to tag me, trade me anywhere you want for a bounty of picks that only makes my new team less competitive?”
    “How about instead of that I will be the highest paid back-up in league history, refuse to sign any extension with anyone you trade me to and by the way….f u for not treating me right.”
    ========================================================================
    One thing you’re forgetting…he voluntarily signed the contract. He wasn’t forced to sign it.
    ———–

    Foles contract for next season is a mutual extension for 20M. If he disagrees, they could franchise him. BUT they would be on the hook for 25M+(remember a lot of huge contracts signed this year, Rodgers, Ryan, Cousins, Garrapalo).

    Foles would be able to torpedo any trade he doesnt like by not agreeing to extend with another team. And that would leave 25M+ against the cap for the Eagles. Its unlikely that he would do that, because he is a good guy. But still 25M for a backup QB, is a huge risk for the Eagles.

  71. I’ve always thought Wentz was the future in Philly. But I’m beginning to have my doubts. What would it look like if the Eagles got a kings ransom for him and kept Foles and drafted another QB for the future? I don’t know, but I wouldnt be so quick to let Foles leave.

  72. Washington Football Club – Yes
    Dallas Cowboys – No
    New York Giants – Yes
    Philadelphia Eagles – No
    _____________________________________________________________________________________________

    I agreeded with your assessment of who might sign Foles, till I got to the Washington Football Club. there is NO such thing. They are called the Washington Redskins. Come on you can say it! Washington Redskins…..see that was’nt hard. They will ALWAYS be called the Washington Redskins.

  73. fwippel says:
    January 15, 2019 at 12:39 pm
    On what basis are you assuming that Nick Foles either hasn’t taken a stand in the past, or needs to take a stand now? Foles appears quite capable of making his own decisions, and I’m left wondering why you think you have a right to tell Foles what (you think) he needs to do.

    Seriously? Do you guys at PFT have any humility or sense of perspective?
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    Allow me to translate: Foles needs to stand up and use my preferred strategy so I may profit from innumerable future articles on the subject.

  74. I don’t understand this. Foles is a guy who had one good year because things fell into place for him in Philadelphia on his first stint with Chip Kelly. He turned that into a nice contract with the Rams. He blew that almost immediately. Made some money at KC as a backup. Then went back to Philly (again! how often does that happen?!) where he got to be a low-pressure backup and turned a very great playoff run into all this leverage and a very generous backup contract.

    He has proven he is at very best a low-end starter. Teams don’t actually need QBs to go on miracle quick-runs like Case Keenum. They need QBs who can get them to the playoffs with 16 games of solid play.

    Foles has some great moments as a player and he seems like an awesome dude. But he’s also had one of the more fortunate careers in recent memory, especially for a QB. Think about what a guy like Josh Rosen is dealing with right now. Or what Deshone Kizer had to go through instead.

  75. Nick doesn’t have to be good. He just has to be better than the Jacksonville QB. Jacksonville is where he ought to go. If he were to sign with Miami, chances are he wouldn’t make the playoffs anytime soon.

    Regardless, the cost of living in Florida is much less.

  76. One thing you can be pretty sure of, there will be plenty of conversations between Foles agents and the Eagles. If the Eagles tag him, what that means is both sides already have a good idea where his next destination is and have the framework of an offer on the table. This stuff isn’t very hard people…..figure it out. Often the agents have these deals already brokered well before it is announced.

  77. Wentz is damaged goods. His bad back will be a forever problem. Trade him now. Cut your losses and get whatever you can. Foles is your starter unless your blind with the last two years playoff runs.

  78. It’s NOT about money with Nick Foles! He’s a highly religious, family man. Money isn’t his issue (He’s the Aire to his father’s 80 million dollar empire. It’s where he can play and be happy…

  79. One day, you’ll give up pretending that players get to use the franchise tag value TWO years down the line in contract negotiations. The franchise tag is a tool a team CAN choose to use, but until it is used it means nothing. The benefit of the tag is that teams can wait until the offseason to exercise it; the RISK of going year to year for a player is injury or a drop in performance, and so he doesn’t get to pretend that the franchise tag is a given…because IT ISN’T.

  80. Hey Nick, come down to NOLA and be Brees replacement someday. You now have intimate knowledge of what it’s like in the dome…come on down and win many more championships with a real winner!

  81. RussianBreadMaker says:
    January 15, 2019 at 11:57 am
    Foles is a system guy that will only succeed in KC or Philly. We have seen what happens when he goes elsewhere.

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    Hate to tell you this but every QB is a system QB, unless they are just poor NFL QBs like a Manziel. It’s great to assume that QBs who thrive with one team are still awesome when they go to a Maimi, or a Jets, or an Arizona. The evidence is overwhelming. Instead the greats (yes all of them) tend to have coaches and coordinators that develop a system (yes, a system) that not only emphasizes their skillsets but also those of the other 10 people around him.

  82. Dude is a career journeyman who had a moment. He’s been compensated handsomely throughout his career. There’s a list of backup QBs who’ve won a Super Bowl and fizzled out afterwards. There’s a list of starting quarterbacks who’ve won a Super Bowl and in a year’s time become a backup elsewhere or never had success later on. This guy is no different. Someone is going to take him and pay him and then realize that their team isn’t constructed to his strengths and weaknesses.

  83. I don’t think Foles is being passive. He’s just not conducting negotiations through the media. He’s putting on a happy face, and that’s exactly what the other 31 teams are seeing. It wasn’t until just a couple weeks ago that he proved once and for all that last year wasn’t an exception. He’s a legit star QB. He’s just like Kurt Warner. Warner moved around quite a bit before winning that first super bowl, and then moved around even more before eventually taking Arizona to the super bowl. Take a good look at Tom Brady. Now look closer. He’s perhaps the least athletic QB in the league, and always has been. So don’t worry about Nick Foles. He’s going to be filthy rich.

  84. campcouch says:
    January 15, 2019 at 5:37 pm
    Dude is a career journeyman who had a moment.

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    And Wentz is a guy that still has zero playoff wins just like Andy Dalton

  85. I didn’t realize Foles is that young, but still I don’t see him as a player who can elevate a team with his play. He’s basically always looked like a guy that can play well on a stacked team. He would do very little for offensively challenged teams like Washington, Miami, or Jacksonville. Sure, he’s better than their other options, but I don’t think you’re getting 25M in value from him.

  86. Anyone on this comment board that thinks it is about the money for Foles obviously doesn’t know a thing about the guy. He comes from money and has said many times that it’s about fit and where he wants to be he doesn’t care about the money he wants to be where he and his family are happy.

  87. Does anyone including the writer of the article ever think that Nick Foles is happy. The guy was gonna retire acouple years ago, go get a regular job. Maybe, just maybe, greed doesn’t win here. Nick seems like a guy that understands what position he is in. Paid millions already. Has a beautiful family, and a city that adores him. Nick Foles doesn’t have to use leverage just because mister Mike Florio types an article thinking he does.

  88. “Foles is a system guy that will only succeed in KC or Philly. We have seen what happens when he goes elsewhere.”

    You’re basing that assessment on his short time under Jeff Fisher??? I need not say anything more than that.

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