Andy Reid takes issue with roughing, offsides penalties

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The Saints obviously have a bigger officiating complaint than the Chiefs do today. But Andy Reid took issue with a couple of calls in the Chiefs’ loss to the Patriots on Sunday.

The first was obvious: Officials botched a roughing-the-passer call on Chris Jones.

Jones was called for hitting Tom Brady in the head on a fourth quarter incompletion. Jones never hit Brady in the head, and CBS rules analyst Gene Steratore said during the broadcast it was a bad call.

Instead of facing a third-and-seven at their own 28, the Patriots got 15 yards and a first down. They scored a touchdown on the possession to go up 24-21.

“I saw our quarterback from play 27 on get hits that were way worse than that that weren’t called,” Reid said, via Sam Mellinger of the Kansas City Star.

Play 27 was a Trey Flowers shot to Patrick Mahomes‘ head, which wasn’t penalized. Officials did penalize Kyle Van Noy for roughing Mahomes in the fourth quarter.

Reid also took issue with the offsides call on Dee Ford that negated an interception that likely would have won the game for the Chiefs. The Chiefs coach acknowledged Ford was offsides but said it’s a penalty rarely called in that situation.

“It wasn’t but by a few inches, but I thought it was legitimate,’’ Reid said, via Adam Teicher of ESPN. “. . .Normally, you’re warned, and the coach is warned if somebody is doing that before they throw it in a game of that magnitude. But they did. He didn’t waste any time doing it. He didn’t wait until the interception to throw it. He had his hand on the flag right from the get-go.’’

158 responses to “Andy Reid takes issue with roughing, offsides penalties

  1. Yup, there was no illegal pick on the Chiefs that allowed Sammy Watkins to get wide open or pass interference on Gronk…it was only blown calls against Kansas City that game.

  2. Jesus. No complaints about holding onto timeouts when your defense is gassed or all the holding you got away with

  3. Funny how you never see Belichick blame a loss on the officials…maybe that’s why he’s the one with five rings going on six

  4. How about the call where Eric Berry was allowed to grab Gronk’s arm and your own coaches knew it was interference (so they tried to act like it was uncatchable)? Or how about the illegal pick that wasn’t called? Or any number of other ticky-tack defensive pass interference calls against JC Jackson.

    Complaining about the refs is low class. They make mistakes, but KC didn’t deserve to win.

  5. Boo-hoo. Did he object to the non- offensive PI call on the Watkins TD or the tick-tax call against J.C. Jackson for PI in the 4th quarter? Monday morning ref- doubting: a game for losers.

  6. Reid is absolutely correct about the Dee Ford play. The flag was already flying before the ball was intercepted so I don’t see any issue with that penalty. The roughing the passer call deserved a second look because it was a big momentum swinger.

  7. What about those PIs that gave you two TDs Andy? You also had 3 timeouts and let Tom convert 3 3rd downs on that overtime drive. You have only yourself to blame for this loss.

  8. Andy Reid needs to stop crying, and learn how to use his timeouts instead. Oh, and hire a DC who can stop a team on 3rd & 10 at least once on three tries.

  9. The refs were uneven (to be kind) during the AFC Championship game. The Chiefs were getting away with holding on Patriot players also. The roughing the passer call on Brady was awful-but even thought the Patriots went ahead 24-21, KC scored again and couldn’t stop the Pats in OT.

    Nothing in this game was as egregious as what happened to the Saints earlier in the day.

  10. Reid is right in all cases here. They were robbed but outcomes don’t change. The league and its refs continue to get it wrong yet another year and it cost the chiefs a trip to the sb. The Need to Fix League!

  11. Offside is offside, Andy. Sorry, you don’t get to pick and choose when a ref calls it when it’s a black and white issue. Maybe coach your players to be smart enough to not line up blatantly over the line of scrimmage.

  12. The roughing was a bad penalty, but really the refs made bad calls on both sides. It was an evenly called game. Unlike the Rams/NO game.

  13. I’ve been watching football for 40 years and after watching these games the past couple of years, the NFL is starting to lose me as a fan with all of the horrific penalty calls. I think I’ll be watching something else during the Super Bowl. But hey, at least the NFL got their dream Super Bowl with the Boston and Los Angeles markets.

  14. Valid point on the hit to the head that wasn’t. However, Dee Ford was blatantly offside no matter how you look at it. Also, the refs decided to pick on the young undrafted kid, JC Jackson, for some very tight P.I. that was not called whatsoever against Berry. Once again, Andy was out coached by The Master.

  15. Tan with no more than two in over the line it was supposed to be. It wasn’t even his body. It wasn’t giving him an advantage in any way. The throw a flag like thaton an enormous play like that in an enormous game like that is ridiculous.

  16. That roughing call was BS…absolutely horrible….he barely brushed a few crumbs off of Brady’s jersey. Something has to be done about the officiating, if not review then a spotter who can quickly review each call so that nothing egregious like that happens. Too many bad calls affecting outcomes of games this year. The NFL has a real problem if something isn’t done about it.

  17. Aren’t penalties part of the game? Can’t blame penalties as every team in the NFL deals with this, How about just agreeing to the facts; better coach, better team, better QB, the better team won. Simple.

  18. On the roughing on Brady, if the ref making the call was behind him, I could understand the mistake. The arm came down, and his helmet moved a little at the same time, which could have looked like he caught the helmet. But, on any other view, it was obvious he didn’t hit it.

    On the offsides, it Reid implying that they should let one or two offsides go first, and tell the coach, before calling one? That sounds like odd logic.

  19. Oh, & Flowers shot to the Head was to the shoulder pads by the neck… never hit him in the head….. if THAT was a penalty then Brady’s was too

  20. …Instead of facing a third-and-seven at their own 28, the Patriots got 15 yards and a first down. They scored a touchdown on the possession to go up 24-21….
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    Pats had some of their best offensive plays on third down. Reid should primarily be taking issue with his team’s third down defense.

  21. Any word from Andy on the Watkins pick play that wasn’t called? Or the PI noncall when Gronk was interfered with right after that roughing the passer call? Or the PI noncall when Dorsett caught the TD? The calls kind of evened out last night, with an edge given to the Chiefs.

  22. When a team plays the Patriots, particularly in a “big” game, the coach had better plan for “bad” calls in favor of the Pats in the latter stages of the game, particularly if the Pats are in danger of losing. Been a fact for 15 years.

  23. Jones’ arm did graze Brady’s face and the ref probably just saw the helmet wiggle. It shouldn’t have been called everyone can pretty much agree on that. BUT WTF is Reid talking about. I’ve never seen a guy with half his body over the LOS not be penalized! I mean he was practically in the backfield at the snap. Stuff it Andy.

  24. Come on, these guys are professional athletes – the best of the best, and you need an official to tell you that you’re lined up offsides?

  25. Fair is fair. That’s all any fan should want. So when I hear about these “make-up” calls, where the officials will call a suspect penalty after an obvious blown call, that’s got to be incredibly concerning to fans.

    Instant replay has been both a blessing and a curse for the NFL. Sure, some calls get overturned. But all too often we’re forced to watch calls that are for some reason not reviewable. Here in the modern era, there’s no reason every play should not have the option to be challenged.

  26. Of course the zebras helped the Pats. The NFL wants them because everyone will watch them to see if they fail.

  27. The pick play that netted 42 yds for the Chiefs to the NE 2 yard line was the worst call of them all.
    Hey Andy your defence was gasssed in OT … what were you saving your time outs for?

  28. Well Andy, instead of complaining about the officiating, maybe you should look at why with 11 seconds left and having the ball deep inside Patriots territory, you opted not to try one more play to try and get the TD for the win. This is more of a reason than the officials ever were in this game.

  29. Nobody hates the Pats more than I do but let’s face it – you look at the 4th quarter of that game and it’s not a stretch to think they would have converted a 4th and 7. As for Dee Ford – this was just dumb. That dude blew the game. He doesn’t line up off-sides and there’s a pretty good chance that we’d have a Superbowl that everyone outside of the 617 area code would have wanted.

  30. Keep crying Andy. Brady wasn’t hit in the head – you’re right there. But he was hit in the facemask. That’s a penalty. And what about the missed call on the pick play the Chiefs ran that set them up at 1st and goal late in the 4th? And what about the tipped ball from Eddleman that was intercepted only to be hit helmet to helmet/defenseless player penalty that wasn’t called? Come on. Stop crying. You did what you and the Chiefs do best in the playoffs. C H O K E.

  31. The Chiefs got away with an obvious pick play, numerous holds on Gronk, and a few other calls that went their way. Dee Ford’s hand was clearly in the neutral zone, “but by a few inches”. Offsides is offsides. The bad officiating went BOTH ways.

  32. willycents says:

    January 21, 2019 at 3:16 pm

    When a team plays the Patriots, particularly in a “big” game, the coach had better plan for “bad” calls in favor of the Pats in the latter stages of the game, particularly if the Pats are in danger of losing. Been a fact for 15 years.

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    This is not only completely false, but very lame as well. The bulk of the bad or non-calls were in the Chief’s favor.

  33. He’s obviously right about the roughing the passer call on Brady. The refs should not have called that but to argue that the refs shouldn’t throw a flag for a defender being lined up offsides is just ridiculous. It’s the easiest call for an official to make and also the easiest penalty for a player to avoid. How about holding Ford accountable instead of letting him off the hook by blaming the refs

  34. The roughing penalty he has a point.. but acknowledging the player was offside and complaining they rarely call it? Grasping at straws there Andy.

  35. Did you have an “issue” with the pick play that happened 6 yards down the field.

    You should have an issue with Brady completing passes on 3rd and 10 3 times and then a 3 rd and 4.

    CLUTCH

  36. this is the Andy Reid I know
    not a winner but a whiner
    the Chiefs defence were holding, pass interference, all night long and were not called
    lining up offside – speak to the player, not the press
    whining Andy, still at it decades on

  37. themage78 says:
    January 21, 2019 at 3:18 pm
    Of course the zebras helped the Pats. The NFL wants them because everyone will watch them to see if they fail.

    Christ
    Yeah guy that’s it the refs did it for the Patriots

  38. Safe to say the officiating in both games was subpar… It cost the Saints a trip to the SuperBowl, luckily the officiating was not the reason the Patriots prevailed over the Chiefs.

  39. The second half of last nights game just seemed like a series of bad call, followed by a make up call, followed by another bad call which meant another make up call. Yesterday was a bad day for the NFL. The coaches and teams involved deserved better. The fans deserve better.

    My team gets to move on but I honestly wish it was a cleaner victory. But the team itself has no control over the bad calls. All they can do is overcome. Go Pats!

  40. If anything, I would take issue with the overtime rules. The fact that Mahomes didn’t get a chance to touch the ball in OT is a shame. I think no matter what kind of score happens on the opening OT drive, the other team should get a shot.

    Overall, I think everyone would agree that the refs played too big of a role in both games yesterday.

  41. The roughing the passer call was a bad one but on the same play Edelman was getting completely mugged. Also, one of JC Jackson’s DPI calls is also questionable. Overall, the Chiefs profited more from the officiating than the Pats.

  42. On the roughing the passer call, he got Brady’s facemask. If Andy Reid wants to point out specific calls or non-calls, how about the interception off of Edelman’s hand, where he was way past being out of the play and a Chief laid him out with a helmet to helmet hit? NO CALL…and plenty more non-calls where that came from. I thought Andy Reid was better than this. The Chiefs are better than this, or so I thought. There were officiating blunders for both teams. They had as many chances as the Pats to put the game away, but we’ll blame that on the coin toss and the OT rules, I guess.

  43. The fact that everyone on here is trying to justify who got the least amount of bad calls underscores the real issue. Why are we all watching these games if they have the ability to rectify these issues with replay, but don’t.

  44. The NFL could fix this in a heart beat. Bill Belichick said it himself, “Everything should be reviewable.” They have instant replay and multiple camera angles, and with officiating less than perfect, they should be taking full advantage of it.

    The CFL is already ahead of the NFL in this area. Pass interference penalties, called or not called, can now be challenged. It has improved the game in Canada, and could do it here as well.

  45. ill42 says:

    January 21, 2019 at 3:34 pm

    If anything, I would take issue with the overtime rules. The fact that Mahomes didn’t get a chance to touch the ball in OT is a shame. I think no matter what kind of score happens on the opening OT drive, the other team should get a shot.

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    Would this post even be here if the Chiefs had first possession and scored a TD to get to the Super Bowl? I doubt it.

  46. I wish everyone who says they are disgusted with the NFL and are going to stop watching games would also stop telling us and making comments about it. Just stop. Threatening doesn’t get it done.

  47. The more I think about it, the more teams have to play to keep a bad call or no-call from beating them more so than keeping the other team from doing it. I’ll bet all four teams from yesterday walked off the fields grumbling about some part of the officiating.

  48. no one complained about the missed targeting on Edelman after the interception should have moved the ball back how many yards? 50?

  49. btw Bradys helmet visibly moved when Jones hit his face mask. Correct me if Im wrong but isnt the face mask part of the helmet which is worn to protect the head?

  50. Not a fan of either team but Reid is right on in both cases. I’ve been watching games all year where players have been in the neutral zone and it’s “never” called and I’ve always heard the officials warn before calling. Maybe they did warn..I don’t know. But I thought it was very strange that they called it in that situation, unless of course they had already warned Ford.

  51. Why would Andy Reid, seeing that his defense is gassed and absolutely HAS TO HAVE a stop or go home, NOT use one of his 3 timeouts he had in his back pocket? Make some substitutions…just give the guys a minute to breathe? Give yourself even a small chance. He should be kicking himself, never mind the officials.

  52. Pats and Brady get all the calls and lucky bounces for 17 straight years….SEVENTEEN.

    Cry some more, my goodness.

    We get it, you didn’t want them to win, be an adult about it….unless of course you aren’t an adult…then continue to cry

  53. Obviously Reid doesn’t “own” BB, it’s the other way around.
    Not using any of his time-outs in OT is inexcusable especially
    since the Pats ran over 90 plays. The KC D was gassed, you
    could see it.

    And Ford was clearly off sides when he lined up, that’s was
    also inexcusable; he obviously didn’t understand the down
    nor the distance.

  54. Donald Craig says:
    January 21, 2019 at 3:52 pm
    no one complained about the missed targeting on Edelman after the interception should have moved the ball back how many yards? 50?

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    Edelman was almost decapitated on that hit, how they didn’t see it is beyond me. What happened to “player safety?”

  55. Please, the Patriots invented the pick play. I saw a number of pick plays in this game by both teams that should’ve been called! Don’t single out the Chiefs…

  56. How about this for an answer:

    “I’ve got to do a better job coaching so we don’t make so many on field mistakes.
    The penalties wouldn’t have mattered if we put up enough points on the board.”

    Say “I”, say “we”, don’t elaborate. Ever.

  57. ill42 says:

    January 21, 2019 at 3:34 pm

    If anything, I would take issue with the overtime rules. The fact that Mahomes didn’t get a chance to touch the ball in OT is a shame. I think no matter what kind of score happens on the opening OT drive, the other team should get a shot.

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    Here is an idea….stop Brady and Mahommes get the ball

  58. Face it Andy, on the big stage you choked again. Not that I really expect you to bring up calls that went in your favor but quite honestly, there were were numerous missed calls that each team could have benefited from.

    I will say you made some good adjustments at half time but when it came down to it you should have called a TO when your defense was on the field with their tongues hanging out. I know you and clocks don’t get along very well. Is that what they call getting clock blocked?

  59. For Pats fans whining about that pick play that Belichek was whining about need to look at their own offense. NE runs pick plays all of the time. Most of the league does it Quit whining when you’re own team does the same thing.

  60. Reid also took issue with the offsides call on Dee Ford that negated an interception that likely would have won the game for the Chiefs. The Chiefs coach acknowledged Ford was offsides but said it’s a penalty rarely called in that situation.

    So you want the rules bent for your team??? Let’s call it a makeup call for the pick play that resulted in a score for your team. Or for Kelsey pushing off, or for Gronk and Edelman getting mugged numerous times.

    BTW, when your defense is gassed a coach would usually call a timeout “in that situation”.

  61. If Belichick had said that normally refs warn him about rules infractions before throwing a flag, Patriot-haters would be calling for an investigation, calling them cheaters & asking that they lose draft picks.

  62. Andy Reid’s inability to get out of his own way is magnifcant to watch. You expect these decisions to come from a rookie HC, not a veteran. He’s been in the game long enough. It’s geniuely confusing.

  63. haughville says:
    January 21, 2019 at 4:05 pm
    Please, the Patriots invented the pick play. I saw a number of pick plays in this game by both teams that should’ve been called! Don’t single out the Chiefs…
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    Not a pick play 8 yards down the field when the defender ends up on the ground. This pick was a blatant no call by the refs that gave the Chiefs a TD.

  64. It happens way too often with the Patriots. It happened back in 2001 with the BS tuck rule fumble. It happened last year with the premature whistle. It has happened over and over again. Bottom line, the Patriots get preferential calls. They always have sine the Brady era. That is wrong, and ruins the integrity of the game.

  65. The Chiefs coach acknowledged Ford was offsides but said it’s a penalty rarely called in that situation.

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    So, he was offsides then, and you admit it.

    Sorry, sounds like sour grapes to me.

  66. Andy Reid needs to take issue with why he gets worked by Belichick every time he sees him. Because Hoody puts a silk night gown on Andy Reid and tells him to go in the kitchen and fix him some eggs.

    Reid is 1-5 in AFC championship games. So it’s not just Hoody who takes liberties on Andy Reid. He needs to go look in the mirror.

  67. I am so thankful that the blown pass interference call in the Saints/Rams game didn’t happen in the Patriots game because I’m sure that Goodell would have scheduled a new game and heads would be literally exploding everywhere in NFL-world.

  68. @jvillenole what prefential calls did the Patriots receive yesterday? The better team won yesterday. KC had ample attempts to shut the Pats down and they didn’t do it. Why is it so hard for someone of you to give this team the credit they deserve?

  69. Of course the Pat’s dont complain about calls they get them all just like Rams . The NFL got the super bowl it wanted

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    Chiefs – Rams would have been a ratings home run. They would have billed it as round 2 of the 53-51 game they played earlier this year, would have showcased their shiny new stars and the changing of the guard – people would have been all over that game. So many happy that the Pats lost would be watching.

    Thats why I think all this talk about an agenda to get the Pats in is so stupid.

  70. The things Kelce was doing to shed coverage were frequently OPI. The DPI in the endzone was OPI before it was DPI. If you watch that play you will see Kelce fully extend his arm while pushing off Jackson before he made his break. A previous game, when Gronk was called for OPI, the officiating expert explained that that full extension of the arm while pushing off is what the officials look for when calling OPI. That play was a textbook example of OPI. The Result instead of a penalty against chiefs, first and goal and a gift touchdown.

  71. haughville says:
    January 21, 2019 at 4:05 pm
    Please, the Patriots invented the pick play. I saw a number of pick plays in this game by both teams that should’ve been called! Don’t single out the Chiefs…
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    Pick plays within 1 yard of the LOS are legal…downfield they are not. Its really simple.

  72. Goodell is lame he wants to stay out of any publicity or rulings. They talk about having a ref with a camera on the over looking the field good luck. Just change the rules like Belichick has been asking the rules committee for years all plays are reviewable. You get only 1 of these per half that would have negated the Watkins pick and Brady’s hit to the head. Also the Saints would be in the superbowl. The problem with the offsides was they didn’t show a camera angle down the line of scimmage but offsides is pretty easy to call.

  73. Sometimes calls go your way, sometimes they don’t. The rationale is they even out over the course of a season. But you never here Patriot coaches, players or staff crying about them.

    We’re on to Los Angeles!

  74. Ford lined himself up almost a full yard offsides. It was laughable, and you could see the ref with his hand on the flag before the snap even happened.

    At least complain about a call that was close, Andy.

  75. The roughing call was bad but the Ford play was not even close even Romo was laughing about how offside he was. The pick play that didn’t get called for a td and the bad calls on Jackson balanced out the calls the Pats got the Saints on the other hand got screwed out of a win plain and simple.

  76. Neither game was clean by the officials. Dorsett got called for an OPI that was questionable while KC got away with two bad ones (Conley on the Watkins play, and one on Kelce’s TD). The roughing call was not a good one, but they should have flagged KC for DPI on Edelman on that play. They got JC Jackson on ticky tack crap, but let Eric Berry et. al. grab, pull, and nearly take down Patriots all night.

    At the end of the day, no one complains on officiating when they are consistent. They were not by any stretch. It is a shame that it becomes a part of the storyline. If you are going to let them play, it can’t be selective in how you apply that.

  77. Now we have to allow offsides . If Ford sacked Brady on that play i”m sure Reid would have complained and the Chiefs fans would be upset with the no call . Right

  78. jvillenole says:
    January 21, 2019 at 4:31 pm
    It happens way too often with the Patriots. It happened back in 2001 with the BS tuck rule fumble. It happened last year with the premature whistle. It has happened over and over again. Bottom line, the Patriots get preferential calls. They always have sine the Brady era. That is wrong, and ruins the integrity of the game.
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    How about teams that are better coached and more disciplined get less flags. But if you do a little fact checking over 13 seasons, the Patriots have generated 2.27 wins through penalties in their favor, which is the fifth-highest total in the league over that time frame, behind the Colts, Green Bay Packers, Falcons and Tennessee Titans.

  79. thewizardsrevenge says:
    January 21, 2019 at 5:24 pm
    I thought the Chiefs DB’s were mugging our receivers on a regular basis.
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    Phillip Dorsett was mugged on his TD catch but still caught it.

  80. Officiating was horrible all around yesterday. The Saints had no penalties at half time. It was like the refs met at halftime and realized that and they had to do something about it. The Brady facemask call was a point of view call. From the ref’s position, it looked like a facemask but it wasn’t. Football action is too fast and expansive for human eyes and brains. Let’s automate the NFL with robots, cameras and other tech so as to do away with referees. Then we can do away with good-for-nothing-but-expensive Roger.

  81. Hey, Andy Reid, you should be more mad at yourself and your staff for not finding creative ways to get Hill the ball or managing the clock and using your timeouts to give your defense a breather in the overtime, genius.

  82. That’s OK Andy Chiefs fans take issue with your game management skills!
    THREE Timeouts in OT & you allowed NE to push the ball down the field without giving your Defense a breather – PATHETIC !

  83. Niners fan here. I just finished watching the official NFL highlights video (about 16 min) of the Chiefs-Pats game. The officiating was highly skewed in the benefit of one team: the Chiefs. Take your emotion out of it and watch all of the critical plays in the game again.
    1) clear defensive PI on Dorsett’s TD catch, not called
    2) clear defensive PI against Edelman on the infamous “roughing the passer” call against Jones (which absolutely was a bad call– and pretty much the only call that benefitted the Patriots), not called
    3) clear offensive PI on Watkins on a pick play, not called
    4) clear defensive PI against Hogan on his circus catch play (he’s held almost the entire route), not called
    5) clear offensive PI by Kelce on that dropped TD throw which was called defensive PI against Jackson (Kelce pushes off, arm fully extended, obvious PI)
    6) pretty much holding/ defensive PI on Berry every time he tried to cover Gronk 1 on 1, take your pick of plays
    As for suspect calls or non-calls, the defensive PI against Jackson on the longer route with Watkins looks much more like a 50/50 call with both players arm battling, so it should have been a non-call. That being said, the contact was pretty minor on both sides so not sure why the flag came out regardless.
    After Edelman’s missed catch and interception, he clearly gets targeted in the head and according to the rules and the NFL’s emphasis on “player safety,” that should have been an obvious flag. But it does happen a bit after the Chiefs start running the other way, so I can understand how the refs may have missed it after turning to watch the Chiefs go down the field. You can’t watch every player and inch of the field every second of the game.
    So there you have it… as painful for some of us as it may be, the refs did the Pats no favors in this game and they still found a way to win again.

  84. Cannot give that team 2 minutes to score on you because they will every time. That’s not on the refs. Quit being in such a hurry to score that you leave the opposing team golden opportunities.

  85. Maybe Brady should have issues with someone flashing a laser in his face during at least the fourth quarter.
    Didn’t hear him complaining. A green laser.

  86. You know, I thought the roughing call was bogus too, even though more bad calls went the Chief’s way. But seeing replays, the defenders forearm clearly hits Brady’s facemark and moves his helmet. SHOULD that be a penalty? No. But it is. Actually a legit call. And yes, there was a worse one against Mahomes that did not get called. I do not disagree.
    Be that as it may – every game has missed or wrong calls going both ways. In a close and important game, the losing side can always point to one or two of those bad calls. They are always there. In a case like the Saints game, they are hard to ignore. In this case, it seems petty. The play in question was 2nd and 7. It is not like the Pats were being shut down on 2rd down. AND, Edelman was mugged on the play. Grow up and coach better.

  87. Maybe Andy has a different rule book than everyone else and would like to tell us which page says the Referee is supposed to give a player a warning when they are blatantly offside rather than throwing a flag?

  88. Sorry, but I missed the part where Andy was saying the refs cost the Chiefs the game. He in fact did not say that. I did hear him saying that the officiating was bad. It was, and it was bad for both teams. The fact that the Pats won does not change that. Officiating in the NFL is seriously broken. I would hope that all fans would want to see that fixed.

  89. Sorry, but I missed the part where Andy was saying the refs cost the Chiefs the game. He in fact did not say that. I did hear him saying that the officiating was bad. It was, and it was bad for both teams. The fact that the Pats won does not change that. Officiating in the NFL is seriously broken. I would hope that all fans would want to see that fixed.
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    Valid point.

  90. I knew it was game over as soon as the Pats won the overtime coin toss…KC needs only to work on that defense in the off season to be truly legit.

  91. You’d never hear Belichick blaming the refs for a loss like you do with Andy Reid and Sean Payton. Both those team had chances to win after the plays/calls in question. Belichick would not let his team think that way. He’d state his case/make his complaint through whatever channels they use, but he’d never let his team use that as an excuse. For every one of those calls, there’s at least 1-2 plays they could have made that would have negated the call.

  92. paul1990 says:
    January 21, 2019 at 4:13 pm
    For Pats fans whining about that pick play that Belichek was whining about need to look at their own offense. NE runs pick plays all of the time. Most of the league does it Quit whining when you’re own team does the same thing.
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    Pick plays are legal within one yard from the LOS. What the Chiefs did was have a WR run down the field at full speed and plow into a DB, 6 or so yards downfield, knocking him down. Never seen that before where it wasn’t called. That wasn’t a pick that was a block, on an alleged pass route.

  93. Unwinnable argument. Homers will pick through every call and whine “Well this happened” or “This happened.” Every one will say that forget all the rest of the plays, that RTP was total BS and led to a score, which ultimately ended up the winner (no OT if you don’t get that call). I disagree with the Chiefs on the neutral zone infraction – it was a neutral zone infraction and it should have been called. But the rest of this nonsense “WAAHHHHH the Chiefs did a pick” is just …ridiculous. You know the RTP was a bad call. There were many blown calls on both sides, as usual. But that one changed the outcome of the game.

    It’s like NOLA. 100 calls may not have worked on either side. BUT THAT ONE? Sorry Pats fans you were handed a game.

  94. .
    the saints do NOT…
    That bogus roughing the passer penalty was a back breaker.
    Every playoff this gets called FOR Brady…
    EVEN if his hand touched My Tommys Helmet it should not have been called a penalty.
    a singly finger tip touches bradys helmet its an instant penalty no other QB…
    and its 1000000% a penalty in the playoffs if a wisp of air touches tommy’s helmet. its pathetic. truly pathetic. brady didnt even go into a tirade over it. thats how blatantly pathetic it was.

  95. I’ll bet that no one would be talking about the OT rules needing to be changed had the Chiefs won the coin toss and scored to win the game. No,because it’s the Patriots,the rules are suddenly unfair. They are going to Super Bowl #9 and that’s not changing.

  96. If one allows players to be greedy then those players are likely to want to be the hero and end up lining up off side in an absurdly stupid situation. Ford had four seconds to note he was lined up off side and adjust accordingly, but the upside was sacking Brady, dancing and being the Sports Center hero. No New England player would have taken that risk in that situation as they are coached TEAM FIRST.

  97. blogatron2000 says:
    January 21, 2019 at 7:56 pm
    Sorry, but I missed the part where Andy was saying the refs cost the Chiefs the game. He in fact did not say that. I did hear him saying that the officiating was bad. It was, and it was bad for both teams. The fact that the Pats won does not change that. Officiating in the NFL is seriously broken. I would hope that all fans would want to see that fixed.

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    I would say you have a good point except for the fact Reid didn’t happen to mention any of the bad calls that favored the Chiefs. He wasn’t complaining about the officiating in general, he was complaining about the officiating against the Chiefs.

  98. I always advocated adding roughness penalties to the list of reviewable calls, because I see too many that were bad calls, and quite often it benefits one team by allowing it to continue its drive. Games have been lost or won because of such bad calls. I don’t understand why some calls are not reviewable. It makes no sense.

  99. I wonder why no one in the media is talking about the green laser that was all over bradys face in key moments of the game??? Its on video for crying out loud and even the police are looking into it.Tyreek gets a beer poured on him its all over the news.Its all on twitter and the angle of it sure looks like it would be easy to find out.

  100. Maybe we’ll admit finally now that missed call affect the outcome of a game? Or will we keep pretending that they never, ever, ever matter and the losing team would have lost no matter what?

  101. Officiating is bad in every sport?How do you propose to fix it…add more rules?Is that the same as the government adding new laws to the ones that already exist?Tony and his colts got the rules changed to where you cannot touch a WR after so many yds but you still see WRs and TEs getting mugged….yeah add more rules to the ones they have now…it really works.

  102. I expected Sean Payton to cry and whine rather than take responsibility for the loss, but Andy Reid had always taken the hit in the past instead of passing the buck and making excuses. Very disappointing Andy!

  103. The roughing penalty was B.S. Reid has a right to complain about that call. But he offsides, COME On MAN, due was lined up 2 feet offsides, it wasnt even close.

  104. boyso3 says:
    January 21, 2019 at 3:28 pm

    He’s obviously right about the roughing the passer call on Brady. The refs should not have called that but to argue that the refs shouldn’t throw a flag for a defender being lined up offsides is just ridiculous. It’s the easiest call for an official to make and also the easiest penalty for a player to avoid. How about holding Ford accountable instead of letting him off the hook by blaming the refs

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    Ford owned his mistake immediately, speaking in an interview from the locker room. It’s so AndyReidish to complain that the player was not reminded or warned by the ref about his positioning on the line.

  105. bspurloc says:
    January 21, 2019 at 10:14 pm

    the saints do NOT…
    That bogus roughing the passer penalty was a back breaker.
    Every playoff this gets called FOR Brady…
    EVEN if his hand touched My Tommys Helmet it should not have been called a penalty.
    a singly finger tip touches bradys helmet its an instant penalty no other QB…
    and its 1000000% a penalty in the playoffs if a wisp of air touches tommy’s helmet. its pathetic. truly pathetic. brady didnt even go into a tirade over it. thats how blatantly pathetic it was.
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    Agreed it was a bad call, but you’re misrepresenting facts.

    “It was a terrible call. I’d also point out that it’s the fourth time Brady has benefited from a roughing the passer call in 1,002 postseason dropbacks since returning from his torn ACL in 2009, which is one penalty for every 250.5 dropbacks. Teams like the Cardinals and Vikings have benefited from roughing the passer penalties more frequently over that same time frame, and the mark is right in line with the Pats’ regular-season average since 2009 (224.5 dropbacks per roughing the passer call). It was a bad call, but it’s also not representative of special treatment for Brady in the postseason, as much as that one play might suggest otherwise.” (quoted from espn.com)

  106. Pass interference was as bad a call as the sackload of OPI’s and DPI’s that could have been called on the Chiefs WRs and DBs. I mean, if Dorsett hadn’t actually caught that touchdown, we’d all be say, “Not again.” Well, Patriots fans would be. Nobody else would really care much. And that’s understandable. I guess.

    As far as the offsides?

    You really know your team is hated when people are complaining about absolutely 100% and obviously /correct/ calls that helped them.

    I’m just imagining what would be happening now if the ref /hadn’t/ called the obvious offsides call and the Chiefs went to the Super Bowl instead, just like the Rams after their beneficial no-call.

    Well, actually, that really wouldn’t take much imagining.

    They’d be telling Patriots fans to stop whining. And I guess that would be understandable.

    But as a Patriots fan, I can say this:

    Winning it all. It never gets old.

  107. So Andy Reid admits that his player was offsides but is complaining that the refs had the audacity to make the call at that point of the game? Seriously? I’m the type that likes to think that a penalty in the 1st qtr should be a penalty in the 4th qtr – the game situation shouldn’t dictate whether or not the ref should throw the flag – that puts too much power in the refs hands to alter the outcomes of the games (ie. see the Saints game)

    Also, if you think that the RTP call on Brady gifted the game to them, it would have been 3rd and 7 if that call isn’t made with 7:00 min on the clock in a 24-20 game. The Pats seemed to be doing ok with their 3rd downs all night, so to say the Chiefs would have won if that ONE call wasn’t made is ludicrous.

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