Chiefs fire Bob Sutton

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The Chiefs hoped to be getting ready for the Super Bowl this week, but they’ll be thinking about a new defensive coordinator instead.

The team announced on Tuesday that they have fired Bob Sutton. The news comes two days after the Chiefs lost 37-31 to the Patriots in overtime of the AFC Championship Game and one day after head coach Andy Reid stopped well short of ruling out a change at the top of the defensive coaching staff.

“Bob is a good football coach and a great person,” Reid said in a statement. “He played an integral role in the success of our team over the last six seasons. I’ve said before that change can be a good thing, for both parties, and I believe that is the case here for the Chiefs and Bob. This was not an easy decision, but one I feel is in the best interest of the Kansas City Chiefs moving forward.”

Given those reports, it’s no surprise that the Chiefs have made the move. It’s also not a surprise given the performance.

While the Chiefs were the top seed in the AFC, they ranked at or near the bottom of the league in many meaningful defensive categories and gave up more first downs than any team in history. With a potent offense, some of that could be swallowed but the Chiefs routinely failed to come up with stops when they needed them the most.

The Patriots’ game-winning touchdown drive saw them convert three third-and-10s stands as the most recent example and, perhaps, the one that sealed Sutton’s fate in Kansas City.

127 responses to “Chiefs fire Bob Sutton

  1. Not surprising. it does not matter how many points you score, it will always come down to defense and the Chiefs D needs work.

  2. It’s on the players, not the coach. They just don’t have the requisite talent on that side of the ball.

  3. ronm11 says:
    January 22, 2019 at 2:56 pm
    It’s on the players, not the coach. They just don’t have the requisite talent on that side of the ball.
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    The D ranked at the bottom of the league to start the season and still ranked at the bottom to end the season. When your squad doesn’t improve during the season, it’s on the coach.

  4. Maybe if the Chiefs didn’t score so quickly and spent more time milking the clock, their defense would perform better.

  5. Plenty to criticize but the player being offsides on the game clinching INT ain’t on him. How about criticizing Andy Reid for a game plan that put up a whopping 7 points through 3 quarters? They were too busy looking for the big play while NE was fine getting first downs, chewing up clock and wearing out the defense.

  6. ya’ll saying he’s a scapegoat, or it’s the players’ fault, have NO IDEA what you’re talking about. Having been at both the Colts game in Indy where we blew a 38-10 lead and THIS game in KC where we couldn’t stop old man Brady from throwing his dinks and dunks right up the field, this is ABSOLUTELY the right move, and only 6 years overdue. Thank you, Andy!!! You took way too long to do it, but thank you. Now let’s go get an aggressive DC who can ATTACK!!!

  7. It’s not the Super Bowl I wanted. But it’s the next best thing that might actually get us there. This was two years to late Andy’s loyalty to Bob might have cost him the Super Bowl this year.

  8. Not a scapegoat at all. Us fans have seen this coming for a couple of years. He was great for the team a few years ago but could not get this group working together with his defensive schemes. Simplicity and excellent execution is what is needed and Bobs defense was too convoluted for the new guys. Hit hard hit fast and tackle correctly. Be quick to the ball and wrap up your guy. These are things that needed to be drilled into the D but wasn’t. This team seriously needs only an average D to be championship caliber. Bob couldn’t make that happen. Thanks for all the hard work, Bob, good luck elsewhere.

  9. It’s all his fault I guess, defensive talent had nothing to do with it I suppose. As explosive as the offense was they give the opposing offenses many opportunities which inflates the defenses yards against numbers and every other stat they rank defenses on. It looks like Andy Reid just quit and gave up after the Patriots got in the redzone on Sunday. It’s all the d coordinators fault, problem solved now.

  10. Very sad that he had no answer during the overtime…..those third down conversions looked like 7 on 7 drills.

  11. Maybe I need to see the game again, but whenever Tom Brady audibled, I didn’t see someone on the other side audibling for the defense, it was most notable on that fourth down run where they switched from inside to outside.

    I know they got rid of Derrick Johnson and replaced him inside with Ragland and Hitchens, also Eric Berry was hurt, so I don’t know that they had someone who did that on the field anymore, and that might be part of their collapse.

  12. The Chiefs front 3 or 4 were being manhanded by the Patriots all day but especially at the goal line. The New England running back just WALKED in several times. The need some BIG guys up front!

  13. fordbw says:
    January 22, 2019 at 2:58 pm
    Chiefs had 32 yards of offense and no points at halftime. Just sayin.

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    Ya because the defense was getting gouged for 8 minute drives.

  14. “I was also troubled to learn that by electing to kick a tying field goal instead of throwing into the end zone, I was sending the game to something called ‘over time’ where a ‘coin toss’ is used to determine first possession after which it is possible for a team to simply score and win the game. I will be having strong words with our Executive V.P. of How Games End and Stuff.” — Andy Reid

  15. Can’t help thinking that Sutton was a scapegoat here, while Andy Reid’s always-suspect game management goes ignored. He’s sitting on multiple timeouts in overtime, with the Patriots on his goal line and his defense clearly gassed, yet he doesn’t call a timeout?

    It probably won’t have changed the outcome, but come on, at least use whatever you have at your disposal to help out your team!

    Pats fan.

  16. ronm11 says:
    January 22, 2019 at 2:56 pm
    It’s on the players, not the coach. They just don’t have the requisite talent on that side of the ball.
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    Normally I would agree with the statement. I usually feel that talent is most responsible for success or failure. But when the TV announcer is eating your lunch, calling plays and predicting what your defense will do to a T, it may be time for a fresh face.

  17. KC never adapted to the NE game plan, especially on the defensive line. NE is a great team, but they picked KC apart and some of that has to go to the game plan and lack of adjustments.

  18. Reid will hire Spagnuolo. Book it.

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    Makes sense, since many of the other great defensive position coaches with Philly back in the day are unavailable, since they’re currently NFL head coaches (Harbaugh, McDermott, Rivera). And are not named Juan Castillo.

  19. On third down plays Brady almost always hits the receiver just over the first down marker. Yet on all the third and 10s, the Chiefs safeties were sitting back letting Brady make those throws. The Chiefs D also did not scheme to put additional pressure on Brady and predictably he was able to sit in the pocket and carve them up.

  20. Cover 2-Man.
    Cover 2-Man.
    Cover 2-Man.
    Coach, they’re killing us over the middle on man-beaters.
    OK. Cover 2-Man.

  21. @Christopher Donald says:
    January 22, 2019 at 2:59 pm
    Where is Juan Castillo when you need him?
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    The newly fired Juan Castillo is available too! Duce Staley…

  22. billymutt says:
    January 22, 2019 at 3:27 pm
    Can’t help thinking that Sutton was a scapegoat here, while Andy Reid’s always-suspect game management goes ignored. He’s sitting on multiple timeouts in overtime, with the Patriots on his goal line and his defense clearly gassed, yet he doesn’t call a timeout?

    It probably won’t have changed the outcome, but come on, at least use whatever you have at your disposal to help out your team!

    Pats fan.
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    Coming out of 2 man with Sorensen sitting deep on three straight LONG 3rd down plays… absolutely would have changed the outcome, and wouldn’t have prompted anyone to discuss timeout usage.

    Sutton had to go. And it wasn’t just this year, either.

    Giants fan.

  23. I was one of the minority of fans who were willing to give Sutton the benefit of the doubt at the end of last season due to playing most of the season without guys like Berry and Houston. Sacks aside, this season proved to me that it’s time for some new ideas on the defensive side of the ball. With the offense they have, a top 20 defense would make this team virtually unstoppable. That should not be difficult to achieve.

  24. The guy worked the Jets and before that, Army. I mean, he was never very good to begin with, so the hire alone was odd, IMO.

    The Chiefs defenses have been mediocre or poor for a while. Pats drop 30 on them like it’s nothing.

  25. If you’re looking for change maybe you should of fired yourself Andy because you’re now 1-6 in conference championship games and the only constant is, well, YOU!!!!

  26. Tony Romo is probably going to sign a 2 year extension that will pay him an average of 6 million a season up til 2021. If you average out his pay per hour doing games from the booth compared to games with a team on the sidelines…..I promise you, he is getting 4-5 times the amount per hour with tons more free time to be with his family. Unless he’s offered part ownership of a team, it would be ludicrous for him to enter the coaching rat race.

  27. billymutt says:
    January 22, 2019 at 3:27 pm

    Can’t help thinking that Sutton was a scapegoat here, while Andy Reid’s always-suspect game management goes ignored.
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    Game management had nothing to do with the Chiefs losing 80-100 point games. The defense hasn’t gotten any better since Sutton has been here, and it was time for him to go.

  28. How about Bill Vinovich as Defensive Coordinator? No Pass Interference Penalties would ever be called on his defensive backs.

  29. Leslie Frazier…got a raw deal in Minnesota. Mike Singletary…created a mess in SF but I’m sure’s learned from that experience.

  30. I’m not sure if Andy will ever win the big game; there always seems to be some issue that causes him to come up short. I hope he does since I think he’s a good person and Chiefs’ fans are a long suffering bunch.
    But I wouldn’t be shocked if he ends his career without a ring.

  31. The great thing is that is the best DC job in football so we should be able to get the best DC out there. A chance to win multiple rings and nowhere to go but up, its a no brainer for all the top candidates out there to want this job so we should be getting someone good.

    PS- take it easy on Dee Ford Chiefs fans. He played his ass off , had a great year and made one mistake.
    Give him Grace !

  32. @hawkkiller says:
    January 22, 2019 at 4:04 pm
    If you’re looking for change maybe you should of fired yourself Andy because you’re now 1-6 in conference championship games and the only constant is, well, YOU!!!!
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    Andy should have known he cannot lineup in the neutral zone!

  33. Yeah the defense was bad. The image that will ALWAYS stick with me was when KC got the interception with two minutes left. Game won ! But NO the dumbass Defensive end LINES UP too close ! Penalty ! Ball goes back to New England. Dumb players will KILL a coach…..

  34. riggo08 Totally agree, more so when you take into consideration the week 6 matchup which as also lost due to poor clock management. One day Andy & his staff will get over the hump.

  35. Might be nice if fatty took responsibility for his own failures someday. His family. The eagles. The chiefs . . . .

  36. KC defense had no plan B. Brady picked them apart all day. On the OT drive alone he completed 3x 3rd and longs against cover 2. Sutton made no attempt to change anything. You simply wont beat Brady and Bellichick with that lack of preparation. Its laughable how people are blaming the OT rules. KC had the ball and chose to take it to OT. they knew the rules, the stats and the analytics involved.

    poor pre against the leagues best, it was only going to end one way. Sutton or Reid.

  37. Allowing 37 points in a game that decides whether you go to the Super Bowl is inexcusable. I feel for the guy, and I’m sure I’ll land someplace else, but in this case he had it coming.

  38. There’s a lot of blame to go around and I never champion somebody getting fired unless they’re politicians, but, this was a foregone conclusion. It’s time for both parties to move on and hopefully this opens up a new opportunity for coaches who shine in the modern game.

    The chiefs need to pick the right person for the job and they have to share the vision with the front office.

    All of this information at our hands, it would be nice to know if the organization has a replacement in mind. If not him, who?

  39. mmack66 says:
    January 22, 2019 at 4:29 pm
    tylawspick6 says:
    January 22, 2019 at 4:02 pm

    And the Chiefs routinely drop 30+ on the Patriots.

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    With flags everywhere to help KC and mauling Gronk as their gameplan or no? bawahha

    Or, bad STs play or broken zone coverages that should have never been called like in Week 6?

    Hint: KC had a top heavy roster. Their D blows and their offense is loaded. And, no, NE has beaten KC 27-20 before.

    NE owns KC, Pitt, the Texans, the Chargers, etc.

    That’s kinda the point here.

  40. The Chiefs have plenty of pass rushers, but their scheme was pathetic. The Pats OLine isn’t so good that they’ve been brick wall all season or anything. Zero sacks and only a handful of pressures in an OT game? That’s just bad play calling, plain and simple.

  41. Someone had to be held accountable & Sutton was fired.
    The Defense ranked in the toilet all year – so how can anyone expect them to somehow become miraculously better for the AFC Championship? – REGARDLESS where it was played!
    The bigger question is WHY did Sutton, ANY Defensive player on the field or Reid NOT call a timeout or two when NE was pushing an obviously gassed Defense down the field in OT?
    Would that have made a difference ? Doubtful but who really knows ?
    It’s nice that Andy Reid can kick his DC to the curb & have ZERO accountability in KC – but ask Eagles fans how many times he’s proven horrible at game & clock management!

  42. Might have helped if Reid had used one or two his timeouts in overtime to give his defense a breather. His players were gassed and Andy did nothing to help.

  43. They should fire their DL coach who can’t teach his guys to stop lining up offsides!
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    This has to be taught?

  44. “Andy should have known he cannot lineup in the neutral zone!”

    It was pointed out today by the Boston homer media that at that point in the game Andy was apparently sitting on the bench and not paying attention to what was going on on the field. Maybe if he’d been watching the field he could have called a time out and saved the offsides penalty.

  45. finfansince68 says:
    January 22, 2019 at 4:59 pm

    It’s nice that Andy Reid can kick his DC to the curb & have ZERO accountability in KC – but ask Eagles fans how many times he’s proven horrible at game & clock management!
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    I’ll agree that it would have been nice to milk the clock a little, but in general, clock management wasn’t the issue this season.

  46. @mmack66, @Mr. Wright 212: you make good points. I don’t disagree that a different DC would have done a better job.

    But I don’t get all the current hyperventilation in the media about Andy Reid. The guy is an historically poor game manager and has never really won anything of much significance, with both the Eagles and the Chiefs. He lucked into getting a bright your QB and a good supporting cast of players, and still couldn’t get the basics right when the game is on the line.

  47. ronm11 says:
    January 22, 2019 at 2:56 pm
    It’s on the players, not the coach. They just don’t have the requisite talent on that side of the ball.
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    The D ranked at the bottom of the league to start the season and still ranked at the bottom to end the season. When your squad doesn’t improve during the season, it’s on the coach.
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    Tony Romo knew what they Patriots were going do, This year the Chiefs made zero adjustments on Defense. The talent is there to be a middle of the pack defense.

  48. When Tony Romo was pointing out the weaknesses in the Chiefs defense during the broadcast, and it was exactly those areas that the Patriots were attacking, you knew it was only a matter of time before Sutton got axed.

  49. Agree that Sutton had to go, but who gets blamed next year when Reid fails to win the big one once again?

  50. johnodocks says:
    January 22, 2019 at 3:41 pm

    On third down plays Brady almost always hits the receiver just over the first down marker.
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    Brady figures out what the defense is in, changes the play (if necessary) to something with a decent chance to work and then throws it to whoever is open. It’a not like anyone has had consistent success stopping him for 17 years now, and it certainly isn’t as simple as you describe.

  51. Interesting decision.

    I’m happy as hell that Andy Reid did not call a timeout, or even a couple, to give his defense some time to rest/think during the Pats final drive.

    Instead the following day Mr. Reid comes to the media with a loser mentality regarding blown calls by the officials, forgetting the ones that went his team’s way evidently (integrity is a very loose concept these days), instead of focusing on his utter and total mismanagement of the game once again.

    The Pats knew that if KC’s offense was on the field for most of the game there was no way NE would have won that game. Mahomes is THAT good/brilliant and he has the ability to maximize the weapons he has available with a competence way beyond his years of experience.

    So the only way this game could be won would be to keep him on the sideline.

    Something New England did brilliantly…evidence of that fact being the time of possession. The Pats offense was on on the field for 43:59 minutes, the Chiefs for 20:53 minutes.

    Now it should not take a genius to understand that with that difference in possession, even though NE’s offense would also be tired/under stress, that the defense would be significantly more tired/under stress.

    Mr. Reid clearly failed to recognize such a fairly basic fact, hence, even after 3 (repeat after me, 3!!!) 3rd and 10 conversions by the Pats in that final drive, on a goal stand play, he DOES NOT CALL A TIMEOUT for his defense to rest. If anything the timeout was needed for his coaching staff and his men to discuss and focus on how to hold the Pats to to a field goal in that situation!!!

    What I find truly astounding is that instead of Mr. Reid getting significant heat for what is a MAJOR COACHING blunder, he gets a total and absolute free pass from all the brilliant NFL reporting/reporters that prefer to focus on his whining press conference, instead of on his utter and sheer incompetence!!!

    A final note: please to not confuse Patrick Mahomes brilliancy with Andy Reid…the kid is a once in a generation talent and a gift to the NFL. If Brady ever has to pass the torch, let it be to this kid…Mr. Reid is inconsequential in the kid’s brilliance!!!

  52. It was obvious that the Chiefs D was not championship caliber during the regular season. Mahomes made the D superfluous, except in games against good teams. The Patriots outscored the Chiefs in the regular season, and they did it again in the AFCCG. It is time for a change indeed. Defense wins championships and the Chiefs’ defense has been mediocre for the past 6 seasons.

  53. The Chiefs fans insisted that the phantom roughing penalty was the reason the Chiefs lost so why are they firing the defensive coordinator. What the hell is going on in K.C.

  54. So the defense holds the pats to 17 being on the field a ton for 3 quarters and the magical reid offense scores zero yet Sutton gets the axe ?

  55. Andy Reid was best when he coached the offense, left the defense to a good defensive coordinator, and had a good personnel person. Andy fell down in Philadelphia when he didn’t have a good personnel person and he assumed that role himself, had poor successors to Jim Johnson at DC and was not able to devote as much time to the offense. I fear we are repeating the cycle here in Kansas City.

  56. Seems like a strange move to fire the DC when all Chiefs fans will tell you the sole reasons for the loss were a bad call by the Refs on a 2nd down play and a coin toss. Perplexing!

  57. Kool Aid Man didn’t call any timeouts when his defense was on life support after nearly 100 plays, seriously man. Also, Rex Ryan being considered for DC is absolutely hilarious.

  58. The NFL is like a game of pachisi. You think you’re golden when you have an offense that can move the ball 75 yards in 11 seconds but that just tires out your own D. It happened to the Falcons and their 28-3 lead and it made it imposdible to keep the Patriots from matching Mahomes in the late 4th.

  59. The interesting thing about Reid not using his timeouts in OT is that Dan Quinn faces the exact same scenario a couple of years ago in the Super Bowl and did the same thing. Didn’t learn anything from it at all.

    What good are time outs in OT anyway? Most likely going to end before they are crucially needed at the end of the quarter. Just think they have much less value than during regulation due to the sudden death situation near the end of the quarter.

  60. He won the toss, and instead of putting his high-powered offense on the field he put his defense on the field. He didn’t score a point in the first half. Didn’t manage the clock appropriately. Didn’t call a time out in the overtime to let his defense catch its breath. Now he cuts his coordinator loose. We all know what that implies. Those of us from Philly have seen this before. Who will you blame next year Andy? Oh, and is Juan Castillo available? Time’s yours….

  61. Chief Men, look at the bright side. Your team had a durned fine season this year, you were the Number 1 seed in the AFC, and you won your first home playoff game in a thousand years. Who cares about the SB? That’s a pipe dream for you all anyway. But you have much to be excited about this year and I think its time for a Hay Dance to celebrate. Everybody, lets sing!!

  62. José Ferreira says:
    January 22, 2019 at 6:13 pm

    Mahomes is THAT good/brilliant and he has the ability to maximize the weapons he has available with a competence way beyond his years of experience.
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    The kid is mobile, has a rocket arm and forces defenses to cover the entire field, but I’m amazed that he/ Reid couldn’t find some way to get Tyreek Hill the ball. Jet sweep? Screen pass? Bunch formation to beat the double team? Hit him on a trick play or double pass?

  63. They had a corner who could’ve covered those guys. He’s actually going to play in the SB with the Rams. Not the coach. Besides, I’m certain Sutton wasn’t lined up offsides.

  64. The real blame is with the Chiefs offense. They were invisible in the first half, and when they turned on the jets, they scored too quickly. Time of possession was 44 minutes to 21 minutes. Can’t blame the defense for the lack of offense. Hell, the defense kept them in the game. Let’s see: punt, punt, punt, end of half. There were even two more punts in the second half. No. Sorry. This loss is on the offense.

  65. pigskingal says:
    January 22, 2019 at 2:55 pm
    Not surprising. it does not matter how many points you score, it will always come down to defense and the Chiefs D needs work.
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    Football almost always comes down to defense. That is why the only team in the AFC playoffs that had a chance of beating the Patriots was the Ravens. When the Ravens offense laid an egg against the Chargers the Patriots were given an easy ride to the Super Bowl

  66. The ironic thing is, if Dee Ford had not line up offsides and that pass interception had counted, maybe KC could’ve run the time off the clock and sealed the win in regulation and be preparing for the Rams right now.

    And Andy Reid and Clark Hunt and Brett Veach would have conveniently forgotten about how horrible the defense has been for the last few years and Bob Sutton would still have his job to keep the Chiefs defense ranked as worst in the NFl for another year or two.

  67. The Chiefs D also did not scheme to put additional pressure on Brady and predictably he was able to sit in the pocket and carve them up.

    No. The Chiefs D was UNAABLE to put any pressure on Brady. Big difference.

  68. Dee Ford mistake cost a city and now a coach…a job.

    With that said, KC on defense, was in a rebuild year. You move a Marcus Peter’s, depend on a suspect local hero (Berry) and the growth of young guys upfront….KC did well with all things considered.

    Sutton’s inability to stop basic things via alignments and not understanding his opponent cost him. You beat Brady not from the edges, but from the interior.

  69. dejadoh says:
    January 22, 2019 at 8:04 pm

    The real blame is with the Chiefs offense. They were invisible in the first half, and when they turned on the jets, they scored too quickly.
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    They were invisible in the first half because the defense barely let them on the field.

  70. pigskingal says:
    January 22, 2019 at 2:55 pm
    Not surprising. it does not matter how many points you score, it will always come down to defense and the Chiefs D needs work.
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    Football almost always comes down to defense. That is why the only team in the AFC playoffs that had a chance of beating the Patriots was the Ravens. When the Ravens offense laid an egg against the Chargers the Patriots were given an easy ride to the Super Bowl

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    Ravens were dominated in that game. Whether you want to admit it or not.

  71. If “ifs” and “buts’ were fruit and nuts, we’d all have a Merry Christmas. Hats off to Patrick Mahomes. He has a bright future in the NFL. But even with Mahomes, KC is no match for Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, Dante Scarnecchia and a healthy (finally) a healthy Patriots roster.

  72. Can Mahomes play defense too?

    Probably very well if given the chance.

    We’ve all gone to school with ‘that guy’

  73. patpatriot7 says:
    January 23, 2019 at 6:03 am
    If “ifs” and “buts’ were fruit and nuts, we’d all have a Merry Christmas. Hats off to Patrick Mahomes. He has a bright future in the NFL. But even with Mahomes, KC is no match for Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, Dante Scarnecchia and a healthy (finally) a healthy Patriots roster.
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    No match? The Pats won two games by a combined 9 points against one of the worst defenses in the league. I would say they match up very well.

  74. For those in KC that are experiencing the “we gotta do a better job…cough…cough” crap that we experienced routinely in Philly, you are coming to realize that Andy Reid is the reason why his teams choke in big games, both Offensively & Defensively.

    Andy is a good coach, but a horrible game day coach. He will never win squat. What’s worse is he’s gonna hamstring that QB for most of his career.

    Good luck, KC…it should have been the HC, too.

  75. Look at the rosters of the two teams. This is the least talented team that the Patriots have had since 2009. So, yes what Bill Belichick, Dante Scarnecchia and the rest of the coaching staff have done with this team and what Tom Brady – the coach on the field – have done (Look at the skilled players on offense the Patriots have with those on the Chiefs roster) this season is remarkable.
    Yet, aside from a missed field goal by Gronkowski against the Broncos in Denver, they would be going to the Super Bowl for the fifth year in a row. In a league that has teams draft in the reverse order of their finish, has teams with better records play a tougher schedule and is geared to creating parity, no other team/organization will ever repeat this accomplishment in the salary cap era. No accident when you have the best coach, best quarterback and best owner.

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