Super Bowl will be Tom Brady’s 40th postseason game

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Patriots quarterback Tom Brady has long since shattered the NFL record for most career postseason games played, but Super Bowl LIII will be a special milestone.

The Super Bowl will be Brady’s 40th career postseason game, easily the most of any player in NFL history.

In second place all time is Brady’s former teammate Adam Vinatieri, who has played 32 career postseason games, 17 with the Patriots and 15 with the Colts. In third is Jerry Rice, who played in 29 postseason games, 23 with the 49ers, five with the Raiders and one with the Seahawks.

And moving into fourth place all time on Super Bowl Sunday will be Patriots kicker Stephen Gostkowski, who will play in his 28th career postseason game.

Brady’s record is unbreakable for many years: It’s not realistic to think the 46-year-old Vinatieri will last long enough to break it. Gostkowski turns 35 next week and probably can’t break it either, in part because he can’t make up any ground with Brady as long as they’re playing in the postseason together. No other active players are close, with Patriots special teamer Matt Slater next at 22 and Patriots defensive back Devin McCourty and Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger tied at 21. No other active players are even halfway to Brady.

So 40 career postseason games is among the records Brady will hold the longest. Maybe forever.

187 responses to “Super Bowl will be Tom Brady’s 40th postseason game

  1. *40th postseason game…. not that we will ever know, but wonder how many it really would have been without the generational cheating that created so many of them.

  2. So 40 career postseason games is among the records Brady will hold the longest. Maybe forever.

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    So will 6 rings by a QB 🙂

    5 might be unbreakable too!

  3. Fun fact: if you add together the postseason games of Montana and Manning whom the salty mountain of hate claim were better, you also get to 40 games. Of course, their win-loss ratios (16-7 Joe, 14-13 Peyton) were much lower than Brady’s 29-10 and counting, but still…

  4. 2.5 seasons worth of playoff games. In the words of the famous Drew Bledsoe, Tom Brady, “you are the man”!! Go Pats!

  5. And yes Brady Hater, the GOAT head coach Bill Belichick does have a lot to do with Brady breaking this record. No Pats fan would say otherwise.

    What you don’t get is we don’t give two farts about how Brady would do on another team or what if Belchick didn’t have Brady. Both made each other GOAT and that’s kind of awesome how it turned out 🙂

    It’s GREAT to be a Patriots fan. 🙂 #BACK2BACK2BACK AFC Champs!

  6. The back to back to back AFC and hopefully soon to be 6 time World Chsmpions are the first team since the early 90s Bills to win the Conference championship 3 times in a row and the first team also in that timeframe to return to the Super Bowl after dropping one the previous year. No Super Bowl curse here at all.

    That’s not supposed to happen in this era of the league! 🙂

    Thank you GOAT!

    🙂

  7. To all you “mathematically eliminated haters”….Thats alot of playoff games.It does not seem like alot because your team does not play in the playoffs but it is alot.

  8. really don’t like him, but the dudes football intelligence is off the charts.
    It may take him a 1/4, maybe even a 1/2 a game, but the guy is going to learn the weaknesses on your squad, and exploit them by the end of the game, a lot of times for the win.
    Props Tom!

  9. Goodel wanted a LA vs KC SB, but Brady/BB foiled that plan.

    So Goodel intalled John Parry as the Head Ref for the SB.

    The Rams are 7-0 when officiated by Ref John Parry.

    Do ‘ya think’ the NFL wants the Rams to win???

  10. joetoronto says:
    January 22, 2019 at 9:01 am
    The Bills don’t have half of that as a team.

    Hats off to the GOAT.

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    Hats off to everyone in the organization for all the hard work and dedication.

    NE is the first SB loser to go BACK to a SB since the 1991 Bills.

    Incredible.

  11. In before “but, but, but they play in an easy Division” comments…

    Amazing what he and the Hoodie have accomplished together!

    Now win the SB and ride off into the sunset…

  12. The first non Patriot of the active players listed in my main man, Big Ben. He’s got his haters for sure but there he is all the same. It definitely sucks sharing a conference with the Patriots – or he would have a few more added to his total. Just sayin’

    Go Steelers!

  13. Fun fact: if you add together the postseason games of Montana and Manning whom the salty mountain of hate claim were better, you also get to 40 games. Of course, their win-loss ratios (16-7 Joe, 14-13 Peyton) were much lower than Brady’s 29-10 and counting, but still…

    Your math could use some rechecking, something didn’t carry over correctly, but still…

  14. Fun fact: If you add the years Brady had with a top 10 defense and legendary coach it more than equals Montana and Manning combined.

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    streetyson says:
    January 22, 2019 at 8:35 am
    Fun fact: if you add together the postseason games of Montana and Manning whom the salty mountain of hate claim were better, you also get to 40 games. Of course, their win-loss ratios (16-7 Joe, 14-13 Peyton) were much lower than Brady’s 29-10 and counting, but still…

  15. And all because his beloved Niners refused to draft him. There’s a certain symmetry to how the guy they did draft became a goat herder, while Brady just became the GOAT.

  16. fritz96 says:
    January 22, 2019 at 9:18 am
    Fun fact: If you add the years Brady had with a top 10 defense and legendary coach it more than equals Montana and Manning combined.

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    Joe Montana never even qualified for a Super Bowl with less than a top 8 scoring defense. Brady has.

  17. dfwhawkguy says:
    January 22, 2019 at 8:32 am
    *40th postseason game…. not that we will ever know, but wonder how many it really would have been without the generational cheating that created so many of them.

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    There was no cheating so I’m afraid we already know the answer to that one. 🙂

  18. @fritz96 – Brady didn’t have top 10 defense every year, they were more often bottom 10. And Montana had a great coach and Manning did for most of his career too. Plus their divisions were generally softer than the AFCE.

  19. solo681 says: January 22, 2019 at 9:04 am
    Goodel wanted a LA vs KC SB, but Brady/BB foiled that plan.
    So Goodel intalled John Parry as the Head Ref for the SB.
    The Rams are 7-0 when officiated by Ref John Parry.
    ==================
    The NFL announced John Parry as the Head Ref for the SB on January 15, 2019. That is 5 days before the AFC/NFC Championship games. Enough already with the conspiracy theories.

  20. Tom Brady’s never won a Super Bowl without a top 10 defense.

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    GoodellMustGo says:

    Joe Montana never even qualified for a Super Bowl with less than a top 8 scoring defense. Brady has.

  21. fritz96 says:
    January 22, 2019 at 9:22 am
    4 Super Bowl losses and 33 playoff interceptions will never be broken either.
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    Trent Dilfer never threw an interception in a Super Bowl.

    Therefore Dilfer = Montana.

    Simple logic really. Nothing hard about that.

  22. Nine Super Bowl starts will be tough to break as well

    Impossible, I would say.

    Man, I hated the 90’s Cowboys as it was, I can’t imagine if they had gone 9 times.

  23. jmscooby says:
    January 22, 2019 at 9:20 am
    Montana would have caught it…

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    That play is in the garbage can where it belongs. Doesn’t belong in pro football honestly.

  24. jasons81 says:
    January 22, 2019 at 9:18 am

    “Fun fact: if you add together the postseason games of Montana and Manning whom the salty mountain of hate claim were better, you also get to 40 games. Of course, their win-loss ratios (16-7 Joe, 14-13 Peyton) were much lower than Brady’s 29-10 and counting, but still…”

    Your math could use some rechecking, something didn’t carry over correctly, but still…
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    @jasons81 – I can’t count his 40th game result yet, if that’s what you’re getting at?

  25. NE is the first SB loser to go BACK to a SB since the 1991 Bills

    and the 92 Bills………..and the 93 Bills……..

  26. fritz96 says:
    January 22, 2019 at 9:24 am
    Tom Brady’s never won a Super Bowl without a top 10 defense.

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    Read my post again 🙂

    Montana never even QUALIFIED for a Super Bowl without a top 8 defense. Brady has.

    When Montana didn’t have a good defense he was one and done or blown out at home in the playoffs by teams like the Vikings.

    Montana has 3 one and dones in a row. Not Brady.

    Brady is better. Facts back that statement up, Truth hurts.

  27. @jasons81 ^Scrub that, you could have been more specific, but now I see it, I was recalling that it will be 30 wins if he wins next week, which would be the same as Montana and Manning combined, not the total number of games.

  28. 2011 was the only year Brady went to the Super Bowl without a top 10 defense.

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    GoodellMustGo says:

    Read my post again 🙂

    Montana never even QUALIFIED for a Super Bowl without a top 8 defense. Brady has.

  29. Mention Brady’s name and the haters/trolls crawl out from under their rock to post BS. ALL of them wish that Brady played and Belichick coached the team they root for.

  30. BuT PuT RoDGERs oR PeYTon oN ThE PAtRioTS with BeLIChick anD ThEY wiN 12 MoRe rINgs 🤪

    I love how the uninformed love to talk about fabricated and mythical scenarios like this and cry when Patriot fans call them out for it 🙂 I say both those guys win zero rings and unlike the uninformed I have a couple of factual and sound reasons for it starting with the fact that their egos make them not nearly as coachable as Brady is.

  31. The simple logic is that Brady’s records…good and bad…is because he’s played in so many postseason games. Doesn’t mean he’s the GOAT or the worst QB of all time. Of course he gets part of the credit for the Patriots success but they would do at least as well with any other great QB.

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    GoodellMustGo says:
    January 22, 2019 at 9:25 am
    fritz96 says:

    January 22, 2019 at 9:22 am
    4 Super Bowl losses and 33 playoff interceptions will never be broken either.
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    Trent Dilfer never threw an interception in a Super Bowl.

    Therefore Dilfer = Montana.

    Simple logic really. Nothing hard about that.

  32. steaksandwichandsteaksandwich says:
    January 22, 2019 at 9:37 am
    Could Mahomes have a shot? He’s in his early 20s and has 3 postseason games (one as a backup last season).

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    Trade him to the Patriots after Brady is done and he might 😉

  33. fritz96 says:
    January 22, 2019 at 9:36 am
    2011 was the only year Brady went to the Super Bowl without a top 10 defense.
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    And 2001. Yes they were too 10 in scoring but that was a last place and weak schedule. And we saw last year how good the Patriots defense really was.

    Montana would have made neither Super Bowl.

  34. fritz96 says:
    January 22, 2019 at 9:36 am
    2011 was the only year Brady went to the Super Bowl without a top 10 defense

    SO WHAT!!

    What great QB who has won multiple SB DID NOT HAVE A TOP 10 D?

    Montana won 4.
    His D was ranked 4 or better every time.

    This is such a STUPID argument

  35. RussianBreadMaker says:
    January 22, 2019 at 9:41 am
    In the meantime, I think I have watched my team play in 3 postseason games in my adult life.

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    Translation: “My owner signed off on Framegate I and II to cheat the Pats.”

  36. fritz96 says:
    January 22, 2019 at 9:40 am
    The simple logic is that Brady’s records…good and bad…is because he’s played in so many postseason games.

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    This topic is about how many postseason games he’s been in and that’s a record.

    He is GOAT. Indisputable. The fact he is playing at a very high level at the most demanding position in pro sports at an age where everyone else would be retired is one of many reasons why that is so.

  37. In my Lifetime (69 years old) I’ve seen:
    Ted Williams and David Ortiz, Bill Russell and Larry Bird, Bobby Orr and Tom Brady. Pretty Awesome.

  38. And Montana played in a much tougher era. QBs were done by their early 30s and competition included the Giants, Bears, and Redskins – much tougher than any team the Patriots played.

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    GoodellMustGo says:

    Montana never even QUALIFIED for a Super Bowl without a top 8 defense. Brady has.

    When Montana didn’t have a good defense he was one and done or blown out at home in the playoffs by teams like the Vikings.

    Montana has 3 one and dones in a row. Not Brady.

    Brady is better. Facts back that statement up, Truth hurts.

  39. And the inevitable offshoot is why he’s played in so many postseason games. Is it mostly because of Brady, or is he just 1 of many important factors?

    The only indisputable fact is that Tom Brady is the most accomplished quarterback in history. Whether he’s the GOAT or just the greatest of his era is a matter of opinion.

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    GoodellMustGo says:

    This topic is about how many postseason games he’s been in and that’s a record.

    He is GOAT. Indisputable. The fact he is playing at a very high level at the most demanding position in pro sports at an age where everyone else would be retired is one of many reasons why that is so.

  40. All he has left to shoot for is the 7 championships won by Otto Graham (in 10 years). 10 years as a pro, 10 years in the finals. 7-3.
    Bart Starr at 9-1 career playoff record (.900), never to be touched.

  41. fritz96 says:
    January 22, 2019 at 9:56 am
    And Montana played in a much tougher era. QBs were done by their early 30s and competition included the Giants, Bears, and Redskins – much tougher than any team the Patriots played.

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    The NFC competition that Brady has faced in the Super Bowl except for the Giants and maybe the Panthers would all pound the AFC competition that Montana faced.

  42. fritz96 says:
    January 22, 2019 at 9:56 am
    And Montana played in a much tougher era. QBs were done by their early 30s and competition included the Giants, Bears, and Redskins – much tougher than any team the Patriots played.

    Brady played better teams in the SB

    Montana thinks Brady is better

  43. streetyson says:
    January 22, 2019 at 9:27 am
    jasons81 says:
    January 22, 2019 at 9:18 am
    “Fun fact: if you add together the postseason games of Montana and Manning whom the salty mountain of hate claim were better, you also get to 40 games. Of course, their win-loss ratios (16-7 Joe, 14-13 Peyton) were much lower than Brady’s 29-10 and counting, but still…”
    Your math could use some rechecking, something didn’t carry over correctly, but still…
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    @jasons81 – I can’t count his 40th game result yet, if that’s what you’re getting at?

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    Likely it is that 16+7+14+13 = 50, not 40.

  44. And that’s the fallacy of rating players based on team championships. I never thought Montana was better than Elway or Marino and I’m not sure Peyton Manning or Drew Brees wouldn’t win 5-6 Super Bowls with the 21st century Patriots.

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    Flash1287 says:

    What great QB who has won multiple SB DID NOT HAVE A TOP 10 D?

    Montana won 4.
    His D was ranked 4 or better every time.

  45. The Brady/Montana debate is apples vs oranges. Montana played in a more punishing era, but he also had the benefit of a free spending owner with no salary cap and no free agency (and no vindictive commissioner trying to sabotage his team, but I digress). They are both the best QBs of their respective era.

  46. fritz96 says:
    January 22, 2019 at 10:01 am
    And the inevitable offshoot is why he’s played in so many postseason games. Is it mostly because of Brady, or is he just 1 of many important factors?

    The only indisputable fact is that Tom Brady is the most accomplished quarterback in history. Whether he’s the GOAT or just the greatest of his era is a matter of opinion.
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    His success supports a claim that he is GOAT but it isn’t the only reason nor should it be.

    His longetivity as an elite player at or near the top of the league speaks very loudly. He’s doing things right now at age 41 and that have never been done before in this sport. Not just in this era, in any era. Not every great player has a claim to be GOAT but when you’re breaking new ground the way Brady is then that’s a convincing argument 🙂 He is the face of the league and he will be remembered 50 years from now for what he has done and is still doing.

    Basically when you are searching hard for reasons why he isn’t GOAT that’s says something in itself 🙂

  47. I’m not sure Peyton Manning or Drew Brees wouldn’t win 5-6 Super Bowls with the 21st century Patriots.

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    Brees possibly Peyton not a chance

  48. You really have to be a contortionist to come up with arguments for why Brady isn’t the Goat. It’s ridiculous at this point.

    9 SBs is something no one ever dreamed possible in the modern NFL, it is the stuff of Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods.

  49. Debatable. Neither played anyone particularly outstanding. Closest would be Seattle in 2014 but with Sherman, Chancellor, Thomas and Avril all hurt or out that team was a shell of itself. Only looked good on paper. I don’t think any great QB thinks any other QB is better and that mentality is what makes them so good. Last year Marino was asked if Brady was a better QB and laughingly he responded NO! And you could tell he meant it.

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    Flash1287 says:

    Brady played better teams in the SB

    Montana thinks Brady is better

  50. fritz96 says:
    January 22, 2019 at 9:22 am
    4 Super Bowl losses and 33 playoff interceptions will never be broken either.

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    Jim Kelly has the losses already. And his 28 interceptions in only 17 games is pretty close

  51. “Could Mahomes have a shot? He’s in his early 20s and has 3 postseason games (one as a backup last season).”
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    “Trade him to the Patriots after Brady is done and he might 😉”
    ==========================
    Why do you think Brady went to seek out Mahomes after the AFC Championship game?
    TB told him that if he wants to have a few SB rings in his future he will need to play for a real coach.

  52. bystanderhere says:
    January 22, 2019 at 9:23 am
    The NFL announced John Parry as the Head Ref for the SB on January 15, 2019. That is 5 days before the AFC/NFC Championship games. Enough already with the conspiracy theories.
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    What does the date of the announcement have to do with it? The league decided back in training camp when Kroenke’s PSL’s weren’t moving fast enough the Rams were going to the Super Bowl. I’m normally one of the first in line to debunk a conspiracy theory but there is no other explanation for that PI call to have been (ahem) ‘missed.’ It’s not the conspiracy theory that makes no sense in this instance, it’s the league’s explanation. Given where it took place there are just too many officials whose functions put them in a position to see that play for it to have been ‘missed’ altogether.

  53. “And Montana played in a much tougher era. QBs were done by their early 30s ”

    Except for Warren Moon, George Blanda, Doug Flutie, Vinny testaverde, Steve deberg, Vince Evans, Len Dawson, Earl Morrall, Sonny Jurgensen, Johnny Unitas and a few others

  54. GoodellMustGo says:
    January 22, 2019 at 8:34 am
    So 40 career postseason games is among the records Brady will hold the longest. Maybe forever.

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    So will 6 rings by a QB 🙂

    5 might be unbreakable too!
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    Funny you said that last year, how’d that turn out?

  55. pbdisciple says:
    January 22, 2019 at 10:02 am
    All he has left to shoot for is the 7 championships won by Otto Graham (in 10 years). 10 years as a pro, 10 years in the finals. 7-3.
    Bart Starr at 9-1 career playoff record (.900), never to be touched.

    And we’ll never have to worry about an OLG kicking FGs either. Enough about caveman football. Those records were the best of their day but comparing them to current teams is frankly ridiculous. It’s not even the same league anymore. Pro football was more of a hobby in Graham’s era. Even in Starr’s era players had off season jobs. Those were sturdy men. They cannot however compare to the specimens we see now. It’s like debating if WW1 Allies would have won WW2.

  56. superpatriotsfan says:
    January 22, 2019 at 10:26 am
    GoodellMustGo says:
    January 22, 2019 at 8:34 am
    So 40 career postseason games is among the records Brady will hold the longest. Maybe forever.

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    So will 6 rings by a QB 🙂

    5 might be unbreakable too!
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    Funny you said that last year, how’d that turn out?
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    Did you cry on Sunday? I bet you did! Tee hee 🙂

  57. I never thought Montana was better than Elway or Marino

    Then you and I have a different idea of what makes A better QB.

    Montana’s greatest had nothing to do with his arm strength or mobility
    It was his mind and decision making

    Plenty of QB have a stronger arm than Brady.
    Aaron Rogers is more physically gifted than Brady
    But I would take Brady any day if I had the choice

  58. I love taunting Patriot Hater 🙂 They can dish it out but they sure can’t take it! Tee hee 🙂

    Now bow to your superiors and the BACK TO BACK TO BACK AFC CHAMPION PATRIOTS.

    🙂

  59. and he did it with an ever-changing cast of team mates instead of being propped up by perennially superior talent locked out of free agency like montana’s niners or bradshaw’s steelers.

  60. Who cares, I don’t think anyone outside of Boston even cares about this game. The Patriot fatigue, plus the Rams having no fanbase, equates to a unwatchable Superbowl. I think the Hall of Fame game ranks higher than it ever has right now.

  61. Bart Starr at 9-1 career playoff record (.900), never to be touched.

    ______

    Brady was 10-0 in his first 10 playoff games, finally lost his first in game 11.

    Starr and the Packers were great, but Brady has played in 4 times as many playoff games as Starr. Its a much larger sample size.

  62. dfwhawkguy says:
    January 22, 2019 at 8:32 am
    *40th postseason game…. not that we will ever know, but wonder how many it really would have been without the generational cheating that the NFL & jealous owners manufactured to STEAL draft picks trying to stop the greatness that is Tom Brady??!!

  63. GoodellMustGo says:
    January 22, 2019 at 10:19 am

    I’m not sure Peyton Manning or Drew Brees wouldn’t win 5-6 Super Bowls with the 21st century Patriots.

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    I wonder how many Drew Bledsoe would have won?

  64. @streetyson

    All good.

    If he gets to 30 playoff wins and equals Montana and Brady combined that in it’s own right is more significant than the fact he’s played in the equivalent to 2-1/2 extra seasons worth of playoff games.

  65. thewizardsrevenge says:
    Nine Super Bowl starts will be tough to break as well
    Impossible, I would say.

    Man, I hated the 90’s Cowboys as it was, I can’t imagine if they had gone 9 times.
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    On a side note. That could have been the greatest dynasty of all time, and Jerry Jones ruined it. Has any other team ever fired a coach after winning one superbowl? Jimmy Johnson won two, back to back, then was fired.

  66. turtlehut says:
    January 22, 2019 at 9:35 am
    Disproves the old adage I was taught: “Cheaters never win, Winners never cheat”

    When you get to the 7th grade you will learn cold causes air contract and heat causes air to expand.

  67. pbdisciple says:
    January 22, 2019 at 10:02 amAll he has left to shoot for is the 7 championships won by Otto Graham (in 10 years). 10 years as a pro, 10 years in the finals. 7-3.
    Bart Starr at 9-1 career playoff record (.900), never to be touched.


    Otto Graham played in a league with 12 teams with guys treating it as a hobby. Little different now. Bart Starr played with 12 or 16 teams. Still a lot easier to win a championship. 1 game rather than 3 or 4.

  68. There are still negative comments about the pats and brady mostly from the same pin heads in articles like this….but have you noticed how weak they have gotten? Its like the pats continued mind blowing success has just worn them down so much they can barely keep up the effort…..

  69. GoodellMustGo says:
    “..So 40 career postseason games is among the records Brady will hold the longest. Maybe forever…”

    He and the Patriots also hold the record for the largest fines ever handed down in professional sports for cheating.

  70. I think I just might root for him to win this SB in hopes that he finally retires. I have no issue with Brady as he seems like a decent guy and we all know who he is as a QB. I just want him to retire so Belichek and the NE fans no longer have his services. It will be nice when the Pats go back to being the Pats that those of us close to 50 grew up with.

  71. And, wait for it. None of this would be possible without the support and adoring worship of the Pat Fanboys who single handedly have created Brady’s success and fortune. As reminded by them every day, Brady would be nothing absent their guidance and instruction.

  72. So GD lucky. If dee ford wasn’t a dope and knew to lineup onside, the narrative of 1 TD & 3 picks would be front and center. Make sure you run a dummy walk through McVay. If you do that, you’ll be super bowl champs

  73. And that’s Brady playing with generic teammates like himself. After this season is over, other team will go on binge-buying, poaching, on their ridiculous arms race. BB will wait for their left overs and scrounge.

  74. Diggityofficial says:
    January 22, 2019 at 10:47 am
    Who cares, I don’t think anyone outside of Boston even cares about this game. The Patriot fatigue, plus the Rams having no fanbase, equates to a unwatchable Superbowl. I think the Hall of Fame game ranks higher than it ever has right now.

    Well, no. Let’s start with one of the largest fanbases that spans the US of A. Second course, everyone else watching, hoping, praying that they see either Brady getting a 6th ring or the Rams pressing pause on the Patriots dynasty, until next time. And for dessert, non-football fans wanting to say they saw Tom Brady play football. Yeah, it’s that big. You can tell me I’m wrong when the numbers come in on 2/4.

  75. If Mahomes and Brady switched teams in the AFCCG, Mahomes would be the one playing in the SB. It’s a team sport.

  76. Agreed, we all know there’s more to quarterbacking than arm strength but I wouldn’t put Montana’s decision making above Marino or Elway. Elway with that 49er defense would dominate and I’m not sure Montana could drag those horrible 1980s Bronco teams to multiple Super Bowls.

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    Flash1287 says:

    Montana’s greatest had nothing to do with his arm strength or mobility
    It was his mind and decision making

    Plenty of QB have a stronger arm than Brady.
    Aaron Rogers is more physically gifted than Brady
    But I would take Brady any day if I had the choice

  77. Diggityofficial says:
    January 22, 2019 at 10:47 am
    Who cares, I don’t think anyone outside of Boston even cares about this game. The Patriot fatigue, plus the Rams having no fanbase, equates to a unwatchable Superbowl. I think the Hall of Fame game ranks higher than it ever has right now.
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    And yet here you are commenting about it and it will be the highest rated thing on TV this year.

  78. FoozieGrooler says:
    January 22, 2019 at 11:01 am
    GoodellMustGo says:
    “..So 40 career postseason games is among the records Brady will hold the longest. Maybe forever…”

    He and the Patriots also hold the record for the largest fines ever handed down in professional sports for cheating.

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    There was no cheating so…$0? That’s the record? 🙂

    Speaking of cheating how many titles have the Steelers won without the services of Dr Rydze or the illegal PEDs that Bradshaw said helped his team win 4? 🙂

  79. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    January 22, 2019 at 11:12 am
    If Mahomes and Brady switched teams in the AFCCG, Mahomes would be the one playing in the SB. It’s a team sport.

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    If it coulda woulda shoulda.
    🙂

  80. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    January 22, 2019 at 11:12 am

    If Mahomes and Brady switched teams in the AFCCG, Mahomes would be the one playing in the SB.
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    Nonsense. Mahomnes can’t read defenses or change plays at the line. I guess you weren;t listening to Tony Romo?

  81. fritz96 says:
    January 22, 2019 at 9:22 am
    4 Super Bowl losses and 33 playoff interceptions will never be broken either.

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    You might want to check your stats, Champ.

  82. baldbuc says:
    January 22, 2019 at 11:03 am
    It will be nice when the Pats go back to being the Pats that those of us close to 50 grew up with.

    And for those of us pushing hard on the latter 60s, we still carry the scars of those Patriots teams and are just thoroughly enjoying the last 20-25 years of quality football.

  83. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    January 22, 2019 at 11:12 am
    If Mahomes and Brady switched teams in the AFCCG, Mahomes would be the one playing in the SB. It’s a team sport.

    ——–

    If Mahomes played on your Jets….how many games would he win Jets’ fan?

  84. Diggityofficial says: January 22, 2019 at 10:47 am
    “Who cares, I don’t think anyone outside of Boston even cares about this game. The Patriot fatigue, plus the Rams having no fanbase, equates to a unwatchable Superbowl. I think the Hall of Fame game ranks higher than it ever has right now.”

    ====================

    What small-mindedness! How’bout people like me who are not Pats fan but a sports fan who just want to witness greatness? I’m a Bears fan but I am a bigger sports fan and just want to watch great athletes competing in the biggest game. These teams deserve to be in the Super Bowl.

  85. FoozieGrooler says:
    January 22, 2019 at 11:01 am

    He and the Patriots also hold the record for the largest fines ever handed down in professional sports for cheating.
    ————————————————————————————
    The Broncos were fined $1 million dollars for cheating the salary cap in 1996-88, thus allowing them to keep Elway and Terrell Davis on the team at the same time and win 2 SBs.

  86. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    January 22, 2019 at 11:12 am
    If Mahomes and Brady switched teams in the AFCCG, Mahomes would be the one playing in the SB. It’s a team sport.

    Just stop. Mahommes is a gifted athlete. Brady cannot beat him in an obstacle course. Just because he is pulling plays out of his arse every now and then does not = long term winner. The way NE was playing 5 weeks ago, do you seriously believe Mahommes would have brought them here?

    Brady is the best in his sport and among the best in any sport. That’s done.

  87. bystanderhere says:
    January 22, 2019 at 9:23 am
    The NFL announced John Parry as the Head Ref for the SB on January 15, 2019. That is 5 days before the AFC/NFC Championship games. Enough already with the conspiracy theories.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Which further substantiates my point, ie: The Facts!!!

    Engage thought process here so you can advance……..

  88. AFCCG stats

    Brady: 30/46 pass attempts, 348 yards, 1 TD 2 INT, 77.1% passer rating

    Mahomes: 16/31 pass attempts, 295 yards, 3 TD 0 INT, 117.0% passer rating

    If you are still disputing the Patriots would have made the SB with Mahomes then you don’t know football.

  89. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    January 22, 2019 at 11:47 am
    AFCCG stats

    Brady: 30/46 pass attempts, 348 yards, 1 TD 2 INT, 77.1% passer rating

    Mahomes: 16/31 pass attempts, 295 yards, 3 TD 0 INT, 117.0% passer rating

    If you are still disputing the Patriots would have made the SB with Mahomes then you don’t know football.

    How’d stats work out for Brady vs Philly last year? You’re right about people not understanding football.

  90. patsfan4(jets fan) telling someone they don’t know FB is like a fish trying to give advice on cycling. It’s all in the system.

  91. But Kellerman guaranteed Brady was going to fall off a cliff three years ago, that he was going to stink. Now he says Brady’s just lucky.

    I re-watched the AFCCG. I suggest anyone who can do so. Absolutely a great game. The fourth quarter was like the Hagler Hearns fight. Haymakers. In OT Brady took over the fight like Hagler finally took over Hearns for the knockout.

    Should have, would have and could have are for losers. Late in the game there had to be at least 20 plays that could have dictated the outcome but every advantage taken was answered until OT.

  92. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    January 22, 2019 at 11:47 am
    AFCCG stats

    Brady: 30/46 pass attempts, 348 yards, 1 TD 2 INT, 77.1% passer rating

    Mahomes: 16/31 pass attempts, 295 yards, 3 TD 0 INT, 117.0% passer rating

    If you are still disputing the Patriots would have made the SB with Mahomes then you don’t know football.

    ————-

    Passer rating puts a premium on long passes, which don’t necessarily equate with winning. Passer rating puts a premium on INTs, which aren’t all the same. Field position matters for INTs.
    Passer rating doesn’t count sacks that take a team out of scoring range. Those are equivalent of a turn over.

    Passer rating is just an index… It can’t tell the whole story of a game. Mahomes played well but not for the whole game and the KC offense couldn’t move the ball methodically, only big chunks, so they could not control the clock when they had a chance to burn it and win the game.

  93. Few years younger than DB so I never Saw Ted Williamn but here is a few more additions
    First 6th man John Hondo Havlicek
    Carl Yaz Yastremeski
    Pedro–Yankee killer
    David Big papy Ortiz
    Dave Cowens-6ft 9 in center

    Also just to mention a few lesser stars
    Satch Sanders
    The Jones “Brothers” Sam and KC
    Hawk Hareleson
    Cheevers , Pie ,Derek Sanderson ,Espo
    The whole 67 Sox team

  94. I’m not a Pats fan, but lets give credit where credit is due. The Pats are the greatest dynasty in the history of the NFL. I expect them to win the Superbowl and this time, quite easily. They’ve won a lot of Superbowls that were close scores, but I’m not feeling it this time. I think they’ll roll the Rams.

  95. GoodellMustGo says:
    January 22, 2019 at 10:41 am
    superpatriotsfan says:
    January 22, 2019 at 10:26 am
    GoodellMustGo says:
    January 22, 2019 at 8:34 am
    So 40 career postseason games is among the records Brady will hold the longest. Maybe forever.

    —-
    So will 6 rings by a QB 🙂

    5 might be unbreakable too!
    ——————
    Funny you said that last year, how’d that turn out?
    ——
    Did you cry on Sunday? I bet you did! Tee hee 🙂
    ———————
    Not surprised Ms. Tee Hee resorted her childish antics and didn’t bother to answer my question. Troll on cause you don’t got nothing else to do.

  96. Don’t you love how every year that Brady makes another super bowl (and possibly wins another), the Manning/Rodgers/Brees apologists come out and say, I bet Peyton/Aaron/Drew would have made at least as many and won more if they played on the Patriots.

    It started when Brady had 3 and Manning hadn’t won yet, with people saying Manning would have at least 3 if he played with Belichick. Then after Brady made it to two more, they said Manning would have won those. And now that Brady’s accomplishments have reached the preposterous/imposssible level, they still say that some other QB would have done as much or more than him in his situation.

    No other QB has played in more than 5 Super Bowls (Elway) and no other QB has won more than 4 (Bradshaw/Montana) in NFL HISTORY! Brady is about to play in his 9th. He has a chance to win his 6th. He’s been to 13 AFC championship games in 17 seasons as a starter. There’s no logical argument that anyone else could ever have accomplished as much as he has, because this is truly unprecedented.

    He has the rings, the accomplishments, the stats, the longevity, the consistency and anything else you want in a QB. There’s no good argument to deny that Brady is the best to ever do it.

  97. LyinRogerMustGo says:
    February 3, 2018 at 9:15 am
    This game will be close. It’s how the back to back AFC champs and 5 time World Champions roll. It’s what we do. 🙂

    Experience does matter. In this one the Patriots win it old school. Back and forth… Eagles tie it late… leaving just enough time for GOATkowski’s I mean Gostkowski’s game winner. 🙂 Patriots 27-24.

  98. Kellerman tried to stick to his guns yesterday. Even Stephen A was laughing at him. Here’s the thing about the Pats that nobody seems to get. They’ll sacrifice a little talent in the draft and free agency to get tough, smart, coachable guys willing to buy in. At the right price. That’s why they don’t end up with a roster full of talented meatheads like the steelers and Bengals always do. Not perfect, but they pull it off for the most part. And don’t try to give me AH. He was a sociopath that fooled everybody.

  99. Fools above are still talking Deflategate despite the NFL admitting in court they had no evidence.

    My favorite fact from Deflategate was that during halftime the NFL tested the AFCCG balls of the Patriots first and then the Colts. When they found the Colts balls also were light they stopped measuring the Colts footballs. If that doesn’t expose bias I don’t know what does.

    My second favorite fact is when they re-inflated the balls the Patriots blew the Colts out in the second half.

    The Patriots and Brady have responded to the witch hunt by obliterating the competition in the AFC and going to the AFCCG every year. Poetic justice.

  100. bullcharger says:
    January 22, 2019 at 12:06 pm
    patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    January 22, 2019 at 11:47 am
    AFCCG stats

    Passer rating puts a premium on long passes, which don’t necessarily equate with winning. Passer rating puts a premium on INTs, which aren’t all the same. Field position matters for INTs.
    Passer rating doesn’t count sacks that take a team out of scoring range. Those are equivalent of a turn over.

    Passer rating is just an index… It can’t tell the whole story of a game. Mahomes played well but not for the whole game and the KC offense couldn’t move the ball methodically, only big chunks, so they could not control the clock when they had a chance to burn it and win the game.

    ——

    Excellent post, bullcharger. As Belichick would say, stats are for losers and I would add fantasy football. The Brady hatred is fantasy based not reality based.

  101. fritz96 says:
    January 22, 2019 at 9:40 am
    The simple logic is that Brady’s records…good and bad…is because he’s played in so many postseason games. Doesn’t mean he’s the GOAT or the worst QB of all time. Of course he gets part of the credit for the Patriots success but they would do at least as well with any other great QB.

    I love when people just say they’re sure the Patriots would do this and that anyway as if Brady wasn’t there—like he’s just another guy. The craziness of that alone. You know, he just “happened” to be a guy that’s gone to 40 playoff games. Kind of along for the ride. Just nuts. And no, they would not do “at least as well” with anyone else. No one’s ever done this well. There’s no comparison. Not now, or likely ever again.

    You want to see something interesting? Watch what happens when Brady is no longer around. As a Pats fan, I’m not looking forward to it because one thing we hopefully can all agree on—agenda-driven haters and fans alike—it won’t be anything close to what we’re witnessing now.

  102. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    January 22, 2019 at 11:12 am
    If Mahomes and Brady switched teams in the AFCCG, Mahomes would be the one playing in the SB. It’s a team sport.

    ———–

    What happened to the narrative that the Patriots had no weapons and bad players. Now if you put Brady on the perceived better team he loses? The haters have to quit flip-flopping.

  103. superpatriotsfan says:
    January 22, 2019 at 12:12pm
    😭😭😭😭
    ———-
    Yes I know you cried like a little girl. So what did it sound like after the Patriots won? A few sobs or a massive bawl and your mommy gave you a widdle hanky to blow your nose?

    🙂

  104. tigerlilac says:
    January 22, 2019 at 12:19 pm
    Fools above are still talking Deflategate despite the NFL admitting in court they had no evidence.
    ——
    “Is there evidence that Mr Brady stuck a needle in a ball himself or got someone to do it? No we have no such evidence.”
    —- the NFL, under oath, in federal court

    That was all I needed to hear.

    Now cry Patriot Hater 🙂 Cry suckers. Cry 🙂

  105. Excellent post, bullcharger. As Belichick would say, stats are for losers and I would add fantasy football. The Brady hatred is fantasy based not reality based.
    —-
    Envy

  106. The flaw in your argument is that Brady is also the only quarterback to play 17 years for the greatest head coach and 14 years with a top 10 defense. Hence, the speculation that other great QBs could also do just as well. Manning had terrible coaching for most of his career and only 5 top 10 defenses. Brees had a great defense for 2 years and Rodgers only 1 year.

    ——————-

    thevoice0freason says:
    January 22, 2019 at 12:13 pm
    Don’t you love how every year that Brady makes another super bowl (and possibly wins another), the Manning/Rodgers/Brees apologists come out and say, I bet Peyton/Aaron/Drew would have made at least as many and won more if they played on the Patriots.

    No other QB has played in more than 5 Super Bowls (Elway) and no other QB has won more than 4 (Bradshaw/Montana) in NFL HISTORY! Brady is about to play in his 9th. He has a chance to win his 6th. He’s been to 13 AFC championship games in 17 seasons as a starter. There’s no logical argument that anyone else could ever have accomplished as much as he has, because this is truly unprecedented.

    He has the rings, the accomplishments, the stats, the longevity, the consistency and anything else you want in a QB. There’s no good argument to deny that Brady is the best to ever do it.

  107. tedmurph says:
    January 22, 2019 at 12:17 pm
    Kellerman tried to stick to his guns yesterday. Even Stephen A was laughing at him. Here’s the thing about the Pats that nobody seems to get. They’ll sacrifice a little talent in the draft and free agency to get tough, smart, coachable guys willing to buy in. At the right price. That’s why they don’t end up with a roster full of talented meatheads like the steelers and Bengals always do. Not perfect, but they pull it off for the most part. And don’t try to give me AH. He was a sociopath that fooled everybody.

    ———

    Exactly. Talent and dependability are two different things.

    Using your Steelers example, that’s the difference between Hines Ward and Antonio Brown. It’s not shocking they they won more with guys like Ward there.

  108. las0023 says:
    January 22, 2019 at 12:39 pm
    The flaw in your argument is that Brady is also the only quarterback to play 17 years for the greatest head coach and 14 years with a top 10 defense. Hence, the speculation that other great QBs could also do just as well. Manning had terrible coaching for most of his career and only 5 top 10 defenses. Brees had a great defense for 2 years and Rodgers only 1 year.
    ———
    Manning and Rodgers would have zero rings each as Patriots.

  109. tigerlilac says:
    January 22, 2019 at 12:19 pm
    Fools above are still talking Deflategate despite the NFL admitting in court they had no evidence.
    ——
    “Is there evidence that Mr Brady stuck a needle in a ball himself or got someone to do it? No we have no such evidence.”
    —- the NFL, under oath, in federal court

    That was all I needed to hear.

    All I needed to hear was the that guy the claimed discovered the “soft” ball told everyone straight up that never happened. This fact alone proves to and beyond reasonable doubt that this was a lie. So next time someone brings up deflation, ask them how exactly the NFL knew the balls were soft? They said it wasn’t a sting. They said it was because an intercepted ball was found to be soft. They also said, these rules of air pressure experts mind you, they gauged the balls on the sideline during the game. I’m quite sure it was soft after that.

    If you want to believe a lie you can’t be helped. Every piece or hard evidence crushes every imagined piece or circumstantial evidence.

  110. GoodellMustGo says:
    January 22, 2019 at 12:33 pm
    superpatriotsfan says:
    January 22, 2019 at 12:12pm
    😭😭😭😭
    ———-
    Yes I know you cried like a little girl. So what did it sound like after the Patriots won? A few sobs or a massive bawl and your mommy gave you a widdle hanky to blow your nose?

    🙂
    ——————
    Woo Hoo you are living it up today! Trolling trolling trolling anytime the Patriots win. Life must be grand trying to live vicariously through other people’s success.

    To answer your question, no I did not, I don’t really care. I know you however, did cry a river of salt on February 4, 2018.

    Nice attempt that manipulating on what I said in a comment.

  111. GoodellMustGo says:
    February 4, 2018 at 12:33 pm
    I think the Patriots will dominate the Eagles. Brady hoists up his 6th SB title and will be the MVP!
    —————————
    LOL, that was such a great prediction!

  112. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    January 22, 2019 at 11:47 am
    AFCCG stats

    Brady: 30/46 pass attempts, 348 yards, 1 TD 2 INT, 77.1% passer rating

    Mahomes: 16/31 pass attempts, 295 yards, 3 TD 0 INT, 117.0% passer rating

    If you are still disputing the Patriots would have made the SB with Mahomes then you don’t know football.
    ———-
    Just change your screen name to a Jets moniker, you’re feel better inside as a person and you can continue to trash the Patriots but we’ll respect you more.

    Let’s review Mahomes TD passes.
    1. Bullet to Kelce over the middle, great pass
    2. 1 yd pass to williams
    3. Dump off to Williams who ran 20 yds untouched.

    I’m not taking away from Mahomes who I think is great already in second year, but his TDs weren’t anything special. What if Tom threw 4 TDs from 3-5 yds out instead of guys running it in, does that stat line make him a better QB? No.

    Football is won with your brain as much, if not more than with your physical skills. Mahomes cannot read a defense or change a play at the line Brady, and he shouldn’t. Comparing 17 year starter vs 2nd year player is unfair to Mahomes.

  113. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    If Mahomes and Brady switched teams in the AFCCG, Mahomes would be the one playing in the SB. It’s a team sport.

    Yeah, the “shell of his former self” Gronk and Edleman are way better than the TE and #1WR in KC.

  114. No one’s denying Brady is great – just that OTHER great QBs could do just as well with his coaching and defense. As for what happens when Brady is gone, we’ve had a glimpse…they’re 14-6. When Peyton or Rodgers is out their teams went from 11-13 wins to between 2-14 and 6-10.

    ——————

    ikeclanton says:

    I love when people just say they’re sure the Patriots would do this and that anyway as if Brady wasn’t there—like he’s just another guy. The craziness of that alone. You know, he just “happened” to be a guy that’s gone to 40 playoff games. Kind of along for the ride. Just nuts. And no, they would not do “at least as well” with anyone else. No one’s ever done this well. There’s no comparison. Not now, or likely ever again.

    You want to see something interesting? Watch what happens when Brady is no longer around. As a Pats fan, I’m not looking forward to it because one thing we hopefully can all agree on—agenda-driven haters and fans alike—it won’t be anything close to what we’re witnessing now.

  115. @GoodellMustGo

    You’re out of your loony tunes. I hope you are hospitalized and quickly! I’m sorry I ever thought for a moment you would have a reasonable thought. You are proof that the internet gives a voice to whack jobs and nut cases. Wow. See a doctor tomorrow!

  116. Yeah there’s a great clip of Stephen A just walking off set as Kellerman starts spinning up his anti-Brady turbine to 150 decibels. Rolls his eyes, starts reading his papers, eventually just gets up and walks off camera with a shrug. And he’s a Rodgers guy. But perhaps the most beautiful part is how Kellerman doesn’t even stop his diatribe, it’s like he had to wait for the string in his back to feed all the way back in.

  117. bullcharger says:
    January 22, 2019 at 12:06 pm
    patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    January 22, 2019 at 11:47 am
    AFCCG stats

    Brady: 30/46 pass attempts, 348 yards, 1 TD 2 INT, 77.1% passer rating

    Mahomes: 16/31 pass attempts, 295 yards, 3 TD 0 INT, 117.0% passer rating

    If you are still disputing the Patriots would have made the SB with Mahomes then you don’t know football.

    ————-

    Passer rating puts a premium on long passes, which don’t necessarily equate with winning. Passer rating puts a premium on INTs, which aren’t all the same. Field position matters for INTs.
    Passer rating doesn’t count sacks that take a team out of scoring range. Those are equivalent of a turn over.

    Passer rating is just an index… It can’t tell the whole story of a game. Mahomes played well but not for the whole game and the KC offense couldn’t move the ball methodically, only big chunks, so they could not control the clock when they had a chance to burn it and win the game.

    ———–

    Perhaps Mahomes facing 4th ranked defense in the postseason versus Brady facing 11th ranked defense in the postseason had something to do with Mahomes struggling to move the ball consistently, no? Perhaps if Mahomes played behind the Patriots offensive line, he wouldn’t have been under siege for half of the game and would have been to move the ball methodically.
    It’s a team sport and a better team is going to the SB.

  118. superpatriotsfan says:
    January 22, 2019 at 12:58 pm
    GoodellMustGo says:
    January 22, 2019 at 12:33 pm
    superpatriotsfan says:
    January 22, 2019 at 12:12pm
    😭😭😭😭
    ———-
    Yes I know you cried like a little girl. So what did it sound like after the Patriots won? A few sobs or a massive bawl and your mommy gave you a widdle hanky to blow your nose?

    🙂
    ——————
    Woo Hoo you are living it up today! Trolling trolling trolling anytime the Patriots win. Life must be grand trying to live vicariously through other people’s success.

    To answer your question, no I did not, I don’t really care. I know you however, did cry a river of salt on February 4, 2018.

    Nice attempt that manipulating on what I said in a comment.
    ——
    Not at all cupcake. Can’t win em all. 🙂

    What you dopes don’t realize is that everything our team does from now on is pure icing on the cake. Or gravy if you’d rather use that metaphor.

    So win or lose- we good. It’s fun watching you seethe though. Tee hee 🙂

  119. I’m gonna sit my kids down on Super Bowl Sunday so they can witness the greatest QB to ever play the game. They’ll thank me someday…they’re 1 and 3.

  120. KEEP IN MIND….they lost two #1 Draft picks for cheating. Who really knows how much wrong this team has done? They should have been forced to disband after first offense. Their legacy is one word… TAINTED.

  121. superpatriotsfan says:
    January 22, 2019 at 1:10 pm
    @GoodellMustGo

    You’re out of your loony tunes. I hope you are hospitalized and quickly! I’m sorry I ever thought for a moment you would have a reasonable thought. You are proof that the internet gives a voice to whack jobs and nut cases. Wow. See a doctor tomorrow!

    ———

    Like the kind of “nut case” that creates a fake moniker to pretend he is a fan of the team he despises? You might want to contact a doctor as well.

  122. superpatriotsfan says:
    January 22, 2019 at 1:00 pm
    GoodellMustGo says:
    February 4, 2018 at 12:33 pm
    I think the Patriots will dominate the Eagles. Brady hoists up his 6th SB title and will be the MVP!
    —————————
    😭😭😭😭
    ————————————
    Man you sure cry a lot. You don’t need a hanky you need your binky. 🙂

  123. Don’t forget super 🙂 I own you. I thoroughly, completely, utterly and wholly own you. You’re MINE. Don’t ever forget that.

    Salut!

    🙂

  124. las0023 says:
    January 22, 2019 at 12:39 pm
    The flaw in your argument is that Brady is also the only quarterback to play 17 years for the greatest head coach and 14 years with a top 10 defense. Hence, the speculation that other great QBs could also do just as well. Manning had terrible coaching for most of his career and only 5 top 10 defenses. Brees had a great defense for 2 years and Rodgers only 1 year.

    —————

    Before Brady Belichick was 55-63 with exactly one playoff win as a head coach. Yes, he had great success under Parcells, but when did we start crediting coordinators over head coaches for team success? Parcells was also a highly regarded coach in his own right. With the Patriots and their Super Bowl caliber, $100 million QB (Drew Bledsoe) Belichick went 5-11 in year 1 and was off to an 0-2 start before some kid named Brady stepped in due to injury. Belichick gets credit for choosing Brady over Bledsoe, but this revisionist history that Belichick was universally regarded as the genius we think he is today before he started winning (coincidentally when Brady became his QB) needs to stop. Yes, he piloted the 16-0 team (everyone was back from that 2007 team in 2008) to 11-5 with Matt Cassel (who went 10-6 and made the Pro Bowl with the Chiefs the next year), but they missed the playoffs because they couldn’t beat other good teams and beat up on the then-lowly NFC West to get there. They were 3-1 during the deflagate suspension, with Garoppolo a 3rd year highly drafted starter going 2-0 with a narrow victory over the Cardinals and a great first half against the Dolphins before getting hurt. Then they beat the Texans on MNF at home with Brissett before getting shutout by the Bills in Foxboro. Four weeks later, Brady was back and they played that same Bills team in Orchard Park and Brady hunt 41 on them as they easily beat the Bills. So with the same team, Brady accounted for a 41 point improvement in offensive performance despite being on the road instead of at home.

    While the Pats typically have a competitive defense, it’s been a long time since it’s been elite, with their scoring averages propped up by stellar offensive performances (ball control, limited turnovers) and the highest average opponent drive distance in the league (Bill Barnwell wrote about this recently). Belichick’s brilliant D lost a Super Bowl that Brady threw for 500 yards in and they didn’t punt. I give Bill Belichick all the credit for building a culture of sacrificing for the team and accountability, but it sure helps when your best player and QB buys in fully and happens to be as good at his job and committed to getting better as anyone in professional sports.

  125. GoodellMustGo says:
    January 22, 2019 at 8:34 am
    So 40 career postseason games is among the records Brady will hold the longest. Maybe forever.

    —-
    So will 6 rings by a QB 🙂

    5 might be unbreakable too!

    ———-

    Definitely. I think nowadays the max a QB ends up with is 3. Other than Brady, who else has won 3 since Aikman? Those dynasties are over IMO, Brady and the Pats are just on another level, or it would’ve ended with Aikman.

    Ben and Eli got 2 and close enough, those are as close as it got. Even all-timers like Rodgers and Brees seemed destined to finish with 1, max 2. Peyton needed that lucky last season to get his 2nd.

    6 is going to be amazing.

  126. superpatriotsfan says:
    January 22, 2019 at 1:10 pm
    @GoodellMustGo

    You’re out of your loony tunes. I hope you are hospitalized and quickly! I’m sorry I ever thought for a moment you would have a reasonable thought. You are proof that the internet gives a voice to whack jobs and nut cases. Wow. See a doctor tomorrow!
    ————
    I enjoy his dedication to throw garbage back at Patriot haters that spew nonsense daily.

    Also, the irony is strong with your statement considering your screen name. There is a lot to like about life and this site, you should create a screen name of the team you truly root for and follow their page/articles.

  127. likuidsmoke says:
    January 22, 2019 at 1:36 pm
    GoodellMustGo says:
    January 22, 2019 at 8:34 am
    So 40 career postseason games is among the records Brady will hold the longest. Maybe forever.

    —-
    So will 6 rings by a QB 🙂

    5 might be unbreakable too!

    ———-

    Definitely. I think nowadays the max a QB ends up with is 3. Other than Brady, who else has won 3 since Aikman? Those dynasties are over IMO, Brady and the Pats are just on another level, or it would’ve ended with Aikman.

    Ben and Eli got 2 and close enough, those are as close as it got. Even all-timers like Rodgers and Brees seemed destined to finish with 1, max 2. Peyton needed that lucky last season to get his 2nd.

    —-
    Couldn’t agree more. 5 is incredible enough,

  128. Reminder;

    Joe Montana never even QUALIFIED for a Super Bowl with less than a top 8 scoring defense.

    Brady has.

  129. steelerfanjo says:
    January 22, 2019 at 1:18 pm
    KEEP IN MIND….they lost two #1 Draft picks for cheating. Who really knows how much wrong this team has done? They should have been forced to disband after first offense. Their legacy is one word… TAINTED.
    ——
    How are the Steelers doing these days without Dr Rydze on the payroll? Not too good I see. I wonder why? 🙂

    Read Steve Courson’s book on the Steelers rampant cheating over the years. It’s shocking,

  130. I enjoy his dedication to throw garbage back at Patriot haters that spew nonsense daily.
    —-
    Speaking of which where’s our buddy wib this week? 🙂 I guess after his genius predictions about the Patriots demise fell flat he’s gone back to thinking about how his weakling Ratbirds will ever compete with the back to back to back AFC Champion Patriots.

  131. Before Brady Belichick was 55-63 with exactly one playoff win as a head coach.

    —-
    Belichick is the greatest coach of all time, and Brady had a big role to play in that.

    Brady is the greatest quarterback of all time, and Belichick had a big role to play in that.

    No need to prop up one at the expense of the other. 😉

    And that record is misleading. Belichick inherited a team in very bad cap and roster shape in 2000 and a team in similar shape Cleveland, devoid of any talent other than QB and he turned both teams respectively into a dynasty and what might have been the beginning of one before Modell pulled the plug.

  132. Reminder…Montana had to face all time great teams in his own conference just to QUALIFY for the Super Bowl. Brady didn’t …

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    GoodellMustGo says:
    January 22, 2019 at 1:45 pm
    Reminder;

    Joe Montana never even QUALIFIED for a Super Bowl with less than a top 8 scoring defense.

    Brady has.

  133. Ruh roh, GoodellMustGo is on a roll everyone. Anything you say that isn’t “Brady/BB is GOAT” he will come at you like hungry dog. She sure is starving for attention. The problem is I saw him the other day and when I walked past him, he started looking at the ground like there was money on it. Wouldn’t say a word, wouldn’t make eye contact.

  134. superpatriotsfan says:
    January 22, 2019 at 1:10 pm
    @GoodellMustGo

    You’re out of your loony tunes. I hope you are hospitalized and quickly! I’m sorry I ever thought for a moment you would have a reasonable thought. You are proof that the internet gives a voice to whack jobs and nut cases. Wow. See a doctor tomorrow!
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    Can’t help but think if you were capable of understanding the irony of that post you would live a much better life.

  135. You can guarantee Goff and McVey won’t ever sniff that record. No matter how much they bribe the officials for no calls.

  136. las0023 says:
    January 22, 2019 at 2:31 pm
    Reminder…Montana had to face all time great teams in his own conference just to QUALIFY for the Super Bowl. Brady didn’t …
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    And Brady a lot more often than not had to play great competition to even win the Super Bowl. Montana got to play the inferior AFC. Must have been nice… and if yer gonna talk about the AFC East don’t get me started on Montana’s division back then…

  137. superpatriotsfan says:
    January 22, 2019 at 2:39 pm
    Ruh roh, GoodellMustGo is on a roll everyone. Anything you say that isn’t “Brady/BB is GOAT” he will come at you like hungry dog. She sure is starving for attention. The problem is I saw him the other day and when I walked past him, he started looking at the ground like there was money on it. Wouldn’t say a word, wouldn’t make eye contact.

    ——
    And yet here you are responding and digging up my old posts 🙂 Ironic huh?

    You just can’t help yourself. Why? Because I own you. 🙂

  138. Look up Montana’s playoff stats before he got to the Super Bowl.

    They’re not nearly as pretty as the “Wowz 4-0 and zero Ints” crowd would like to think they are.

    Not that hard to put up great SB stats when you’re playing the inferior AFC as it was back then.

    🙂

  139. True. But that’s why the comparison between Montana and Brady is harder than many people admit. With the exception of the fact they both had all time great coaches everything else was completely different.

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    GoodellMustGo says:
    January 22, 2019 at 2:52 pm
    las0023 says:
    January 22, 2019 at 2:31 pm
    Reminder…Montana had to face all time great teams in his own conference just to QUALIFY for the Super Bowl. Brady didn’t …
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    And Brady a lot more often than not had to play great competition to even win the Super Bowl. Montana got to play the inferior AFC. Must have been nice… and if yer gonna talk about the AFC East don’t get me started on Montana’s division back then…

  140. las0023 says:
    January 22, 2019 at 2:31 pm
    Reminder…Montana had to face all time great teams in his own conference just to QUALIFY for the Super Bowl. Brady didn’t …

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    GoodellMustGo says:
    January 22, 2019 at 1:45 pm
    Reminder;

    Joe Montana never even QUALIFIED for a Super Bowl with less than a top 8 scoring defense.

    Brady has.

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    Montana never even QUALIFIED for more than a measly 4 SBs. Brady is playing in his 9th.

  141. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    January 22, 2019 at 1:15 pm

    Perhaps Mahomes facing 4th ranked defense in the postseason versus Brady facing 11th ranked defense in the postseason had something to do with Mahomes struggling to move the ball consistently, no?

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    I see what you tried to do there. “4th ranked defense in the postseason”.
    No-one would confuse the Pats defense with a true 4th ranked defense.
    Once the Chiefs figured it out, they did whatever they wanted with the Pats defense.
    What they got wrong was scoring too quickly- thus not giving their own defense a break and also leaving Brady enough time to come back.

  142. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    January 22, 2019 at 1:15 pm
    bullcharger says:
    January 22, 2019 at 12:06 pm
    patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    January 22, 2019 at 11:47 am
    AFCCG stats

    Brady: 30/46 pass attempts, 348 yards, 1 TD 2 INT, 77.1% passer rating

    Mahomes: 16/31 pass attempts, 295 yards, 3 TD 0 INT, 117.0% passer rating

    If you are still disputing the Patriots would have made the SB with Mahomes then you don’t know football.

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    Passer rating puts a premium on long passes, which don’t necessarily equate with winning. Passer rating puts a premium on INTs, which aren’t all the same. Field position matters for INTs.
    Passer rating doesn’t count sacks that take a team out of scoring range. Those are equivalent of a turn over.

    Passer rating is just an index… It can’t tell the whole story of a game. Mahomes played well but not for the whole game and the KC offense couldn’t move the ball methodically, only big chunks, so they could not control the clock when they had a chance to burn it and win the game.

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    Perhaps Mahomes facing 4th ranked defense in the postseason versus Brady facing 11th ranked defense in the postseason had something to do with Mahomes struggling to move the ball consistently, no? Perhaps if Mahomes played behind the Patriots offensive line, he wouldn’t have been under siege for half of the game and would have been to move the ball methodically.
    It’s a team sport and a better team is going to the SB.

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    I agree with the last point!

    Just not many people thought that going into the game. It appears hindsight is 20/20.

  143. The G.O.A.T. debate will never end which is fine. Next thing you know there will be an asterisk if the Patriots win because they should have played the Saints and the Saints would have won would become the narrative. Can people please quit being salty about the Patriots success its probably not good for your blood pressure.

  144. Montana played when football was tough and QBs were past their prime by their early 30s. Also, Montana had to play against all time great teams like the Chicago Bears, Parcells/Belichick Giants and Gibbs Redskins in his own conference.

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    SWFLPC.INC says

    Montana never even QUALIFIED for more than a measly 4 SBs. Brady is playing in his 9th

  145. My 2 cents and it ain’t worth much. I am finally at the point where I have to admit it, he is probably the best of all time. I don’t know how you can compare across generations so that makes it hard. And I don’t believe him having the most rings plays into it because football is the ultimate team sport – no other sport is as reliant on the rest of your team being good. But what he did in the OT the other night is a snapshot of what he’s done time and time again. With all the marbles on the line, in the most pressing of moments, he delivered on three straight 3rd downs. This is what Montana did in the second Superbowl win over Cincinnati. Brady and Montana have done it so many times..

  146. Truong Nguyen says:
    January 22, 2019 at 9:09 am
    In before “but, but, but they play in an easy Division” comments…

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    See this is a fallacy that most people have when they make those statements. If the Pats only got to the play offs because of a “weak” division then they wouldn’t beat the good teams and even win the SB’s they’ve won.

  147. If I weren’t a Pats fan I’d freaking hate them. Belichick & Brady are enigmas. How many more times will they to this point? That’s just crazy to say, but with them not only is it possible, it’s expected.

  148. If I weren’t a Pats fan I’d freaking hate them. Belichick & Brady are enigmas. How many more times will they get to this point? That’s just crazy to say, but with them not only is it possible, it’s expected.

  149. Football is a team sport and other QBs are more gifted than Brady.What makes Brady the GOAT is his leadership and how he instills confidence in his team.The roster turnover does not affect the Patriots like other teams because of Brady.Like he told Kraft his rookie year..I AM THE BEST DECISION THIS FRANCHISE EVER MADE.Would he have been great on another team.I think so because of his leadership.Montana was great but so was the QB that took his spot..steve young.So what system is everyone talking about.

  150. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    AFCCG stats
    Brady: 30/46 pass attempts, 348 yards, 1 TD 2 INT, 77.1% passer rating
    Mahomes: 16/31 pass attempts, 295 yards, 3 TD 0 INT, 117.0% passer rating
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    Oh you forgot one stat Brady 1 W, Mahomes 1 L in that AFC championship game. Mahommes is good, but how did his last two drive end against the Rams?

  151. And to those who are so mentally weak that they mindlessly harp on phantom calls or accusations of cheating, try to understand that your feeble minded conceptions are proven to be false merely by the width and breath of Brady’s accomplishments over this span of time and against ALL Teams and ALL players who line up against him and Belichick’s Patriots.

    Phantom calls and cheating is impossible over this span of time with everyone looking for everything and anything (even false accusations based on nothing but false scientific voodoo assumptions) to pin on Brady and defeat him.

    Only Eli Manning’s Giants have equally miraculous wins against Brady and the Pats. The Giants did them with amazing and miraculous plays. Why are you haters accusing the Giants of cheating in those wins?

  152. fritz96 says:

    January 22, 2019 at 9:36 am

    2011 was the only year Brady went to the Super Bowl without a top 10 defense.

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    Nope, not even close.

    Pats defense DVOA in SB appearance years:

    2018 – 16th
    2017 – 31st
    2016 – 16th
    2013 – 20th
    2011 – 30th
    2007 – 11th
    2004 – 7th
    2003 – 2nd
    2001 – 13th

    Some good defenses, some not so much. Nothing special overall.

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