Talk in Green Bay that Jimmy Graham could get cut

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When the Packers signed tight end Jimmy Graham to a three-year, $30 million contract last offseason, they were expecting him to last more than one year. That might not happen.

There’s talk in Green Bay that Graham could be cut this year. That’s what Pete Dougherty, Packers columnist for the Green Bay Press-Gazette, thinks is going to happen. Although Dougherty makes clear he is guessing that Graham will get cut, not reporting it, he’s a longtime team observer who’s well-positioned to make educated guesses.

And cutting Graham would make sense: He was disappointing in his first year as a Packer, even admitting himself in December that he hadn’t done much to help the team win. Graham is due a $5.3 million roster bonus on March 15, so it’s easy to envision the Packers cutting him before then.

If the Packers do cut Graham, they’ll save $5.3 million on their salary cap but he’ll still carry a $7.3 million dead cap charge. If the Packers think it’s time to build their new offense around new players, that $5.3 million in savings may better be spent elsewhere.

103 responses to “Talk in Green Bay that Jimmy Graham could get cut

  1. He should sign with the rams. He could add to the collection of “big names” that will never win a Super Bowl.

  2. “Could get cut”

    Brilliant take. He also may not get cut. Brilliant as well. We will see what happens. It is actually more likely he stays.

    If you want to report on a Packers player who is very probable to get cut then you should post a article on Clay Matthews. Clay has had a nice career in Green Bay, but he does not fit into the 2019 Green Bay Packers plans. Nick Perry is also probably not going to be on the 2019 roster. Those two are more probable than just “could get cut”

    Many feel Randall Cobb “could get cut” He also may not be cut. We will see what happens.

    There will for sure be some new talent acquired through the draft and free agency and a few cuts. That much I can promise you.👌

    #GoPackGo!🧀

  3. freefromwhatyouare says:

    January 26, 2019 at 8:59 am

    “Could get cut”

    Brilliant take. He also may not get cut. Brilliant as well. We will see what happens. It is actually more likely he stays.

    If you want to report on a Packers player who is very probable to get cut then you should post a article on Clay Matthews. Clay has had a nice career in Green Bay, but he does not fit into the 2019 Green Bay Packers plans. Nick Perry is also probably not going to be on the 2019 roster. Those two are more probable than just “could get cut”

    Many feel Randall Cobb “could get cut” He also may not be cut. We will see what happens.

    There will for sure be some new talent acquired through the draft and free agency and a few cuts. That much I can promise you.👌

    #GoPackGo!🧀
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    There is a 0 percent chance that Mathews or Cobb will be cut because their both free agents.

  4. Too many knee injuries took away his “game” which was a dominant TE possession receiver who could easily & consistently win contested passes. But could also use his basketball skills to get open. Dominant athlete. Injury cut his career short he’s basically a younger Antonio Gates at this point. So he definitely still holds value, at the correct price, as a situational player. Specifically inside the 10 or in short 3rd down situations.

    Put him with a young QB lacking veteran targets. Arizona? NYJ? SF? Kittle & Graham sounds pretty sweet. And not that we know he’s going there….but Antonio Brown & Kittle with Graham inside the red zone? Not bad.

  5. Not much outside of ‘Te Adams worked this year. I’d like to see Graham in the new system before cutting him. The new scheme is likely to be more run/pa dominated, maybe he will thrive.

  6. Semantics.

    When a player is not going to be on the 2019 roster they all are cuts to me. Whether released, traded, or not re signed, they are all cuts to the roster.

  7. If Mike McCarthy was still there, I have no doubt he would have persuaded the GM to keep Graham. But with the emphasis on making the coaching staff much younger, I have little doubt that Graham will be gone. The Packers have a kid named Robert Tonyan at TE and if he’s given a chance, I think he’s going to surprise a lot of people.
    Graham can’t run anymore. It’s as simple as that.

  8. Ideal tight ends do 3 things well: Catch the ball as a big target, block almost as well as a tackle, and stretch the middle of the field with some speed. Serviceable tight ends need to do at least two of those three. Graham only does first of those three, and his catch radius appears to be fading as well. He’s never blocked well, and he slowed dramatically. Seems like a decent guy, but really only worth an inexpensive 2nd or 3rd tight end in the right situation if you don’t have a worthy young candidate to develop.

  9. jimmy simply hasnt been the same since the patriots shut him down in that game vs saints a few years ago and held him to zero catches with aqib talib. teams have been able to cover him with ease since then.

  10. Given his production before the signing it was a bad contract for the Packers.
    They should first try to renegotiate with him.
    If that doesn’t work, then cut him.
    He had one good year after leaving the Saints.

  11. Ditto Mathews, Perry and a host of others who cant play football. The Packers are a dumpster fire without Rodgers. Sad but instead of building skill players around him they gave the farm away to him and mathews and have no money in the cookie jar for real players.
    The packers never met an undrafted el cheapo player they didnt like

  12. What’s this say about the QBs he played with though? Brees willing to go out his way to build chemistry while AR just expects everybody to show up and his miraculous talent should carry the day? I think AR needs to start talking to his family and improving himself as a person before GB will be able to get back to another SB.

    Like BB says, before you even think about winning you have to learn how to not lose.

  13. He’s declined and McC has no clue what to do with a TE but there was some obvious lack of effort on his part as well.

  14. More proof free agency is over rated and you build through the draft. A free agent signing for a missing piece of the puzzle is fine but the majority of your legit play makers always come from drafting well…

  15. He couldn’t catch this year either. Not sure what value he brought to the team other than name recognition.

  16. Yeah, he definitely wasn’t the same player in GB. Is that because Brees and Wilson are better QB’s than Rodgers? I know Brees definitely is.

  17. There are several good TEs in the draft this year, and the Packers need to get one somewhere in the first three rounds. Enough of bringing in old models without much tread on the tires.

  18. It was over the moment he tore his pattelor tendon. I think it even happened more than once? It was a laughable signing by the new packer front office and a sign of their incompetence to come. Packers are entering the dark ages again.

  19. No way they keep him. He so underperformed expectations and with a new offense predicated on motion he’d be winded by the middle of the second quarter.

  20. HoLeCrap says:
    January 26, 2019 at 10:32 am

    They took Grahm because he was cheap and available not because he could still play football.
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    They gave him the biggest tight end contract in the history of the NFL. I wouldn’t call that cheap.

  21. The Seahawks broke Jimmy. They called him soft in the press before a game and then shut him down. Nobody has been worried about him since.

  22. Remember how excited the Packer fans last year during free agency when they gave that huge contract to Graham? Remember how they said he was so great in the red zone, and he would probably have 15 touchdowns? Combine that with signing that Wilkerson fellow, bringing in Pettine, firing Ted Thompson, Rodgers coming back, and oddsmakers picking them for the Super Bowl, and you couldn’t get Packer fans to stop crowing about how great their team was. Some of us suggested that they slow their roll a bit because there were a lot of question marks, but they wouldn’t listen. They’ll do the same thing this year.

    “When I think something nice is going to happen I seem to fly right up on the wings of anticipation; and then the first thing I realize I drop down to earth with a thud. But really, Marilla, the flying part is glorious as long as it lasts…it’s like soaring through a sunset. I think it almost pays for the thud.”

  23. While I know there were high expectations for that xonnectiin… both Rodgers and/or Graham were banged up foe the season, it takes TIME to develop that Bennet last year started slow…. then quit… but before that Jared Cook toon nearly half a season to start getting making the impact many expected. I would like to see him around for one more season, unless he is a bad fitting GBS new offense, like the way he didn’t fit in Seattle.

  24. Rodgers had a significant opening day knee injury that limited his mobility and required a knee brace for eight games. He also played through a pulled hamstring for at least two late season games, further limiting his effectiveness, and he missed the last game of the year in the concussion protocol. Plus, all the receivers and tight ends except Adams played very poorly.

    With all that, he still outperformed the simple tweak, final-piece, wishing-hoping-praying solution in vaunted Minnesota.

    When you consider the guaranteed monies paid by the Vikings, you know that’s gotta irritate the Viking trolls, no doubt.

    You know what the biggest difference still remaining among all the teams in the NFCN is?

    Aaron Rodgers.

  25. Hard to figure this out, as Graham’s results differed with 3 quality QBs. With Brees, great results; with Wilson pretty good results; and with Rodgers poor results. Is that Graham gradually losing his athleticism, or 3 different systems using him with varying effectiveness?

  26. cheeseisfattening says:
    January 26, 2019 at 12:53 pm
    Rebuilds are tough. Sometimes you have to take huge cap hits to fix mistakes. It will work itself out in a few years.
    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

    Rebuilds involve changing the starting quarterback after nearly reaching the SuperBowl with your existing quarterback.

  27. freefromwhatyouare says:
    January 26, 2019 at 10:02 am
    Semantics.

    When a player is not going to be on the 2019 roster they all are cuts to me. Whether released, traded, or not re signed, they are all cuts to the roster.
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    Yeah their all cuts. Forget that they affect the roster in different ways: you may get another player, incur dead cap money, get a compensatory pick, etc. Just admit when your wrong.

  28. For all the comments about how terrible the Vikings, I don’t seem to recall the packers beating them at all the last few years

  29. He’ll get cut and the people that aren’t that good at fantasy football will draft the new TE completely ignoring the fact that the Packers don’t use their TEs very much… ‘But he plays with Aron Rodgers’!

  30. RMoss84HOF says:
    January 26, 2019 at 2:10 pm
    For all the comments about how terrible the Vikings, I don’t seem to recall the packers beating them at all the last few years.
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    That’s true. And for all of the talk from Vikings fans’ about what a great coach Zimmer is, 2 playoff appearances in 5 years, 1 playoff win, and two very underachieving seasons (2016 and 2018) where they didn’t even make the playoffs. Especially 2018, where they got the QB they wanted, had a great defense, and then completely failed in the last game of the season. Zimmer clearly can’t get his team ready for big games. If he was that great of a coach, he wouldn’t be on a lame duck contract going into 2019. But with the hiring of Gary Kubiak, his son, his other assistant, and his wife and dog, the Vikings seem to already be set up with their next head coach.

  31. Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:
    January 26, 2019 at 12:12 pm

    Remember how excited the Packer fans last year during free agency when they gave that huge contract to Graham? Remember how they said he was so great in the red zone, and he would probably have 15 touchdowns? Combine that with signing that Wilkerson fellow, bringing in Pettine, firing Ted Thompson, Rodgers coming back, and oddsmakers picking them for the Super Bowl, and you couldn’t get Packer fans to stop crowing about how great their team was. Some of us suggested that they slow their roll a bit because there were a lot of question marks, but they wouldn’t listen. They’ll do the same thing this year.

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    Boy, the Packers must have really done a number on your team over the years for you to be so bitter. skoLOL!

    I could easily post the same thing about the Barney’s reaction to the Cousins signing, verbatim.
    A ton of other fans tried to tell you guys about his record against teams that were .500 or better and how he has a tendency to wilt during big games, but none of you would listen.
    All I heard out of your fan base was this is Minnesota and not Washington, there’s too much talent for him to fail here.
    Well, it doesn’t appear to matter where Cousins is slinging it, you get basically the same results.

    Yes, I honestly thought Graham would be a bigger advantage in the red zone.
    I’m not quite sure what the problem was last season, deteriorating skills, McCarthy’s scheme or just a general disconnect between the Graham and Rodgers.
    That’s for Gutekunst and the new coaching regime to examine in depth and I’m sure they’ll make a roster decision accordingly.
    They’ll watch far more film than you or I will ever see, so I’ll trust they’re judgment.

  32. stellarperformance says:
    January 26, 2019 at 12:34 pm

    Rodgers had a significant opening day knee injury that limited his mobility and required a knee brace for eight games. He also played through a pulled hamstring for at least two late season games, further limiting his effectiveness, and he missed the last game of the year in the concussion protocol. Plus, all the receivers and tight ends except Adams played very poorly.

    With all that, he still outperformed the simple tweak, final-piece, wishing-hoping-praying solution in vaunted Minnesota.
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    Again, I have to ask in what way Aaron Rodgers outperformed Kirk Cousins? Not in wins. Not in head-to-head. Not in passer rating. Not in touchdowns. Not in completion percentage.

    Oh wait, now I remember. You’re the one who thinks total yards passing is the only metric that matters when evaluating quarterbacks. You’re the one who thinks Derek Carr outperformed Drew Brees and Russell Wilson.

    Remember when wins actually mattered to Packer fans? Now it’s just how many yards can you put on the board.

  33. Wow, this thread has gone off the rails😃

    For those knocking Jimmy Graham for last season, his numbers were not as bad as you imply.

    55 catches for 636 yards. 11.6 ypc

    Jimmy dealt with a nagging knee injury all season and played through it. Also broke his thumb in mid November and played through it. Much respect to Jimmy for playing through those injuries. One can not question his toughness after that.

    As Waffle stated, Gute will make a decision on Jimmy and I trust his thoughts on the subject even more than my own. #InGuteWeTrust. I personally would lean toward keeping Jimmy. I assume Gute will draft a TE at some point in the draft, but I am not real comfortable with Robert Tonyan and a rookie being the main TE options next season. Not loving what I see in the TE’s available in FA. Lewis if kept would still be used mostly as a blocking TE in LaFleur’s offense. We will see what Gute decides to do.

    #OneTeamOneNation

    #PackersNation!

  34. With Benjamin Watson retiring, it’s time for Jimmy to return home to the Saints and restore his abilities. He should have signed last year. This is the last train to New Orleans, Jimmy. Get onboard or disappear into oblivion.

  35. Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:
    January 26, 2019 at 5:07 pm
    Oh wait, now I remember. You’re the one who thinks total yards passing is the only metric that matters when evaluating quarterbacks.
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    The NFL owns the show. It’s their primary metric, not mine. If you have a problem with it, whine to them.

  36. stellarperformance says:

    The NFL owns the show. It’s their primary metric, not mine. If you have a problem with it, whine to them.
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    You recently claimed that the Packers had a pretty good running game.

    Based on the primary metric that you so love, the Packers are #22.

  37. Offseason #1… broom front office.
    Offseason #2….. brook coaching staff.
    Now, lets look at the roster….Graham is one of many starters that has been incapable of beating the Vikings for the past several seasons.

    Let the rebuild around a declining QB continue.

  38. “The Seahawks broke Jimmy. They called him soft in the press before a game and then shut him down. Nobody has been worried about him since.”

    He was soft…it was embarassing to what him block and a avoid tackles.

  39. The NFL owns the show. It’s their primary metric, not mine. If you have a problem with it, whine to them.
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    He admits he does not realize that chart has many sorting options and yards is just the default. Wow, pretty limited.

  40. gtodriver says:
    January 27, 2019 at 12:36 pm
    You recently claimed that the Packers had a pretty good running game. Based on the primary metric that you so love, the Packers are #22.
    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

    I was playing to my audience. I only meant it was better than the Vikings’.

  41. cheeseisfattening says:
    January 27, 2019 at 3:53 pm

    He admits he does not realize that chart has many sorting options and yards is just the default. Wow, pretty limited.

    >>>EXACTLY! But it’s actually pretty amazing how many people don’t know that, all of the stats on the NFL.com(and most others) are sortable stats, you can change from category to category just by going along the top and clicking on whatever one you want, click it a second time(after the page reloads) and it inverts those stats!

  42. cheeseisfattening says:
    January 27, 2019 at 3:53 pm
    He admits he does not realize that chart has many sorting options and yards is just the default. Wow, pretty limited.
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    Me? I’ve admitted nothing. I acknowledge the many means by which athletic performances can be measured, too many to list here or bother with.

    But what is the No.1 measurement the NFL chooses? You open their statistics site and it’s the first one. What is it?

    Whine to them.

  43. “Noah Fant”

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    Not even the best TE from Iowa coming out. T.J. Hockensen is a much better blocker and also has great hands.

    Gute will most likely go OLB with the #12 and I like Josh Allen. He probably won’t fall to #12 so I also like Jachai Polite at #12. Could we see Gute move up a few spots to take Allen? He is worth it. Twice the player Bosa is.

    At #30 is where Gute may think about taking a TE and Hockensen would be a nice fit in Green Bay. Runs like a WR. Creates seperation. Smart. Smarts will be crucial in LaFleurs offense. T.J. is all those things. I also like safety at #30 and Deionte Thompson.

    #GoPackGo!🧀

  44. Lol, celebrating 5th place in Gregg Rosenthal’s year end QB power rankings. Reminds me of when you were celebrating the Packer’s week 5 5th place defensive ranking. Woop woop. Good times, huh?

  45. By the way my opinion on these types of click bait opinion rankings is the same as it is for every site’s weekly power ranking s. I bet you eat those up too if the Packer’s are high in the rankings. 😁

  46. stellarperformance says:
    January 26, 2019 at 11:55 pm
    Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:
    January 26, 2019 at 5:07 pm
    Oh wait, now I remember. You’re the one who thinks total yards passing is the only metric that matters when evaluating quarterbacks.
    //////////////////////////////

    The NFL owns the show. It’s their primary metric, not mine. If you have a problem with it, whine to them.
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    Ok. By your own logic then, (if you have any), Rodgers is NO WHERE near being a hall of famer. Vinny Testeverde has way more yards than Rodgers.

  47. cheeseisfattening says:
    January 29, 2019 at 11:32 am
    Lol, celebrating 5th place in Gregg Rosenthal’s year end QB power rankings. Reminds me of when you were celebrating the Packer’s week 5 5th place defensive ranking. Woop woop. Good times, huh?
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    You’re missing the point, on purpose, again. My thread and all subsequent posts had nothing to do with bragging. I only stated that an injured Rodgers outperformed a bealthy Cousins. That was it. You took it from there. That was your battle. Don’t embarrass yourself further.

  48. screamingyellowzonkers says:
    January 29, 2019 at 12:48 pm
    Ok. By your own logic then, (if you have any), Rodgers is NO WHERE near being a hall of famer. Vinny Testeverde has way more yards than Rodgers.
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    My logic? Since when is the single most important statistic as determined by the NFL my logic? I made the simple contention that a very injured Rodgers outperformed a healthy Cousins, and he did. Cousins had two premier receivers and Rodgers had a poor-catching skeleton crew. He still outperformed your “guarantee.” Splitting hairs and putting words in my mouth can’t change your disappointment, angst, and jealousies.

    Do you know what remains the biggest difference among NFCN teams? Rodgers.

  49. stellarperformance says:
    January 29, 2019 at 8:47 am
    Check out the season-ending quarterback rankings on NFL.COM. Despite wearing a knee brace for eight games, playing with a pulled hamstring for two or more, and missing the last one under the concussion protocol,
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    Check out the season standings. Despite thousands of excuses the packers still finished in third place.

  50. stellarperformance says:
    January 29, 2019 at 1:04 pm
    screamingyellowzonkers says:
    January 29, 2019 at 12:48 pm
    Ok. By your own logic then, (if you have any), Rodgers is NO WHERE near being a hall of famer. Vinny Testeverde has way more yards than Rodgers.
    /////////////////////////////////////////

    My logic? Since when is the single most important statistic as determined by the NFL my logic?
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    Lol the single most important statistic is yards? I kinda thought touchdowns and wins were kind of important. I bet Brady would give up all those rings for some seasons leading the league in yards thrown. Do you even watch football or just love Rodgers?

  51. My logic? Since when is the single most important statistic as determined by the NFL my logic?

    Where exactly does the NFL determine passing yards are the single most important QB statistic? By having it as the default sort order on their QB listings? Anywhere else?

    No wonder cheese eaters are laughed at throughout the NFL.

    Do worry about it, you can laminate those QB power rankings you found and hang up Arron Rodgers’ fifth place standing on you bedroom wall.

  52. RMoss84HOF says:
    January 29, 2019 at 1:46 pm
    Lol the single most important statistic is yards? I kinda thought touchdowns and wins were kind of important. I bet Brady would give up all those rings for some seasons leading the league in yards thrown. Do you even watch football or just love Rodgers?
    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

    Good Lord you haters are dense. Go to the official NFL website. Look up individual passing statistics. Which of many different statistics did the NFL decide to use to rank quarterbacks?

    What did you find?

  53. Go to the link I provided in this thread earlier. There is all the data anyone needs to confirm an injured Rodgers still outperformed a healthy guaranteed Cousins, way beyond the yardage preferred by the NFL. Check it out. Get back to us.

  54. Go to the official NFL website. Look up individual passing statistics. Which of many different statistics did the NFL decide to use to rank quarterbacks?
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    Comp Att Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Int 1st 1st% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck Rate

  55. Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:
    January 26, 2019 at 12:05 pm
    Rodgers played every game this past season and they were still a dumpster fire.
    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

    Rodgers had a significant opening day knee injury that limited his mobility and required a knee brace for eight games. He also played through a pulled hamstring for at least two late season games, further limiting his effectiveness, and he missed the last game of the year in the concussion protocol. Plus, all the receivers and tight ends except Adams played very poorly. With all that, he still outperformed Kirk “Guaranteed” Cousins. You know what the biggest difference still remaining among all the teams in the NFCN is? Aaron Rodgers.

  56. cheeseisfattening says:
    January 29, 2019 at 2:59 pm
    Comp Att Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Int 1st 1st% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck Rate
    //////////////////////////////////

    I’m not shocked you failed to understand the question.

    Which….”of many different statistics,” did the NFL decide to use for ranking quarterbacks?”

    Come on. You can do it.

  57. I’m not shocked you don’t understand that NFL.com is not providing an ranking but a listing, sortable by any category because you seeing the default sort order as a ranking because it fits your narrative.

    Now excuse me while I go laugh at the bonus the Packers just paid Jimmy Grhaham.

  58. Try this one. Try any of them.
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    I just tried sorting by QBR on the link your provided . You are just too limited to understand the difference between a sortable table and a definitive ranking.

    K.Cousins MIN 596 13 576 14 2.7% 19 2.2% 62.0 16 646 3,988 4,283 30 2 6 10 70.5% 7/69 1.0
    A.Dalton CIN 405 19 408 19 5.2% 17 5.3% 61.9 17 383 2,405 2,544 21 1 0 10 62.4% 6/95 1.1
    A.Rodgers GB 821 9 699 10 8.2% 13 5.3% 60.6 18 644 4,032 4,539 25 1 3 2 62.9% 9/151 4.4

  59. So, you can choose whatever metric you want but I can’t? How subjectively convenient.

    Plus, the link I provided details exactly how a professional subjectively assesses the performance of a quarterback. He’s dead-on.

    My point remains the same: An injured Rodgers still outperformed a healthy and guaranteed Cousins. Rodgers had a skeleton crew of receivers and Cousins had two of the most vaunted wide receivers to ever play the game.

    Eat it.

  60. So, you can choose whatever metric you want but I can’t?
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    SMH, anybody can choose any metric they want. Just because I sort by one criteria you don’t like does not mean you can’t choose your own sort criteria. No I am not dumb enough to claim there is only one sort criteria that matters.

    And to my prior question I will repeat because it was not answered…
    Where exactly does the NFL determine passing yards are the single most important QB statistic?

  61. Stellar – here’s the most important stat – 6 wins. Bottom line he won 6 games. Excuses are irrelevant, the game is about wins and losses. If he’s so hurt get off the field.

  62. cheeseisfattening says:
    January 29, 2019 at 6:09 pm
    And to my prior question I will repeat because it was not answered…
    Where exactly does the NFL determine passing yards are the single most important QB statistic?
    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

    That is surmised from passing yards being the fourth or fifth column of statistics but the only one that comes up highlighted every time. It also matches the photo of whoever is currently leading in passing yards each time the site is opened, and it reverts back to that position after scrolling through all the others. That’s how a normal person would interpret it as the go-to preference. But why don’t you ask them and whine directly to the source?

  63. Nothing changes the fact Rodgers outperformed Cousins. Only in Minnesota would anyone argue this contention, and they can’t be blamed. After all, they feel stupid about Cousins.

  64. That is surmised from passing yards being the fourth or fifth column of statistics but the only one that comes up highlighted every time. It also matches the photo of whoever is currently leading in passing yards each time the site is opened, and it reverts back to that position after scrolling through all the others. That’s how a normal person would interpret it as the go-to preference.
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    Nope, that’s just how it is surmized by you because it suits you ATM. Normal people of at least normal smarts understand that tables user story and how use and interpret it.

    And to be clear, I am making no argument in your dopey whose dad us stronger argument about Rodgers/Cousins. It’s not the type of thing I care about. I am just pointing out how your data is flawed and “surmized”.

  65. I don’t think anyone said cousins is better than oft injured 6 win sensation Rodgers. I would rather my team win the games than drool over one players stats.

  66. Cheesey …………when you open nfl.com, if not passing yards as the primary metric, why is the NFL wrong to use it and not call you for advice instead? And stop with the “not my thing.” You started it.

  67. RMoss84HOF says:
    January 29, 2019 at 7:19 pm
    I don’t think anyone said cousins is better than oft injured 6 win sensation Rodgers. I would rather my team win the games than drool over one players stats.
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Pay attention people! Nobody is drooling over statistics! I read a Viking troll bashing Rodgers, and responded by saying Rodgers wore a knee brace for eight games, played through a hamstring injury for two or more games, missed the last game in concussion ptotocol, had a skeleton crew for receivers, and still outperformed a healthy and guaranteed Cousins playing with two top-tier receivers. That’s my point. Nothing has changed, except cheesey wants to fight about hair-splitting semantics. Whatever gets you through the night. I think you guys are overly defensive because you’re unaccustomed to people responding to your unnecessary fight-picking, and you feel stupid about Cousins. Good luck with that!

  68. Why would anyone feel stupid about a player that a GM picked for a team that you cheer for? I guess maybe if your a delusional fanboy who buys worthless stock and thinks your an owner. Grow up Peter Pan.

  69. RMoss84HOF says:
    January 29, 2019 at 8:19 pm
    Why would anyone feel stupid about a player that a GM picked for a team that you cheer for? I guess maybe if your a delusional fanboy who buys worthless stock and thinks your an owner. Grow up Peter Pan
    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

    Because Viking fans were certain this one little personnel tweak would catapult the Vikings into a SuperBowl, they paid Rodgers money to guarantee it, and find themselves admitting Cousins is pedestrian in comparison, at best.

    That’s why.

  70. Stellar – if the Vikings paid “Rodgers money” on Cousins they got a deal – Rodgers money only gets you 6 wins and a bunch of excuses about injuries.

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