Former Packers question the coachability of Aaron Rodgers

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Aaron Rodgers isn’t going to like this.

The Packers quarterback, who has a reputation for being so sensitive that he’s sensitive about being regarded as sensitive, has drawn on-the-record criticism from multiple former teammates, in the aftermath of the team’s decision to replace coach Mike McCarthy with Matt LaFleur.

Rob Reischel of Forbes.com has collected the quotes, starting with comments made last week by former Packers tight end Jermichael Finley.

“He’s coachable to a point,” Finley said regarding Rodgers. “Once you try to overcoach him, that’s when he’s going to do his own thing. With McCarthy, McCarthy used to call a play and Aaron would look at him and [then] it’s a whole different play. . . . And we just ran the play that No. 12 called. Sorry. And I think it’s going to be a lot worse with a young guy and with where Aaron’s at in his career. He’s an icon of the NFL.”

Indeed he is. And the Packers have validated that status by making Rodgers the highest-paid player in the NFL.

“[Y]ou just gave this guy $200 million,” Finley said. “It’s going to be very hard to coach a guy same age, his pay scale is up here and it’s going to be hard to tell Aaron what to do.”

This isn’t the first time Finley has called out Rodgers. In 2016, Finley was quoted at length in an article from Tyler Dunne of Bleacher Report regarding the question of whether Rodgers is a leader.

Former Packers pass rusher Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila noticed a shift in Rodgers once Rodgers became regarded as a short-list franchise quarterback.

“When Aaron became ‘The Man,’ he was ‘The Man’, especially in his own eyes,” Gbaja-Biamila recently said, via Reischel. “Let’s just put it that way. Things just changed. I don’t know what to say. I don’t want to lie to you. It’s hard for me to say this without causing drama. . . . But I will say that between Brett [Favre] and Aaron — and I’m just being honest here so do what you want with this — with everything that Brett accomplished, you would think he’d be a little more arrogant, but he was actually more humble. And I felt that Aaron was a little bit more on the arrogant side.

“I would say from the time [Rodgers] arrived to the time he became a starter, I felt that he changed, and it wasn’t for the better.”

For better or worse, LaFleur is the coach. But Rodgers is “The Man.” And Rodgers will continue to be “The Man” until the Packers decide as an organization that Rodgers is no longer the guy.

98 responses to “Former Packers question the coachability of Aaron Rodgers

  1. I’m not a Patriots fan by any means but I would take Tom Brady any day and twice on Sunday over Aaron Rodgers.

    Brady takes very low pay for the wins he helps the Patriots achieve. Rodgers insists on being the highest paid QB in the NFL.

    Brady is rarely injured. Rodgers is injured in someway, nearly every single season.

    Yet, the stats mavens insist Rodgers is better than Brady! What? One ring is somehow greater than Six rings?

    They play the games to win them…not to pad your fantasy football stats!

  2. Rodgers deserves his status as The Man. Let the coach help that team’s pathetic defense and let Rodgers run things on O. It worked for Peyton Manning, and it worked for ALL quarterbacks back in the day. The “if only he had listened to McCarthy more” rhetoric is see-through revisionism. McCarthy was in over his head as a head coach; he plateaued and never got any better than that.

  3. TheDPR
    12 ran the offense and it wasnt that good last year.
    Odd how a guy making $200 mill has so many apologists and seems to need every
    one of em

  4. It’s hard to learn anything when you think you already know it all. His skill set is amazing, but his attitude is awful. He’ll never be the best as long as he continues to believe he already IS the best. I don’t know how you fix that level of smug arrogance.

  5. McCarthy and Rodgers were on the outs. They had to get rid of the coach. If the new offensive play caller calls better plays then Rodgers might behave. The problem is that McCarthy did not update his playbook. I am not a Rodgers fan, but when Romo can sit on TV and call the play before they even get out of the huddle, you know the offense is predictable.

  6. This will all play out with a new coaching staff in green bay. Who knows – he may have been difficult to coach. That could have been true. But when the QB has a better offensive read of the game of football than the coach – you are going to have some push back. So as long as a coach utilizes the offense to is potential, i dont see any issue with Rodgers being uncoachable.

  7. Is this supposed to be news?
    Anyone who has watched the NFL over the past several years, knows that Rodgers is a sensitive egomaniac that can’t lead a team. Personally, I’m glad Green Bay was dumb enough to throw all that money at him. I hope he’s happy with it, because that’s all he’s going to get and he can store it in his empty trophy case.

  8. TheDPR says:
    February 6, 2019 at 10:49 am
    Rodgers deserves his status as The Man. Let the coach help that team’s pathetic defense and let Rodgers run things on O. It worked for Peyton Manning…
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    It worked for Peyton Manning until the playoffs where he was one and done nine times. However he did have four, sub-par Super Bowl appearances where his highest QB rating was 88.5 in a loss to New Orleans, and he was on the losing end of one of the worst Super Bowls ever against the Seahawks.

    It pays to be a coachable QB.

  9. Finley and KGB are great Packers but let’s face it, they both enjoy being in the spotlight, perhaps for different reasons. Also, neither has been around the Packers for many years. Their potential for having useful information is suspect.

  10. Lol funny how so many former packers make the same type of comments about Rodgers. At what point will Packer fans start thinking that Maybe Rodgers is more of a headache than it seems…

  11. What does Karbeer Gbaja-Biamila even know- he was out before Aaron became a starter. Once a player that was close to Rodgers or someone who was relevant for longer than 2 years makes a claim about him that’s when I’ll listen.

  12. I’ve always been a Brett guy. Even when PackerNation turned against him, I defended him. Watching Rodgers is a joy, when he’s right. Unfortunately, he hasn’t been right for a couple years and even when he is wonderful he’s still insufferable. He’s been insufferable since he was annointed starter over Favre even though he hadn’t earned it. I find it humorous when some Rodgers fans talk GOAT vs Brady. Rodgers isn’t even the Packers GOAT QB, he’s third at best behind Starr and Favre, or Favre and Starr, whichever way you wanna put it.

  13. Respected analyst Greg Cosell said Rodgers off-scheduled plays were not apparent earlier in his career but the last several years have gotten worse. My own personal theory is that ever since the Packers lost that 2014 season conference championship game to the Seahawks, Rodgers lost confidence in Mike McCarthy and stopped listening to him. Unfortunately that also lost the structure in his playing style. Getting injured doesn’t help either. I think that game really soiled their relationship and the Packers are suffering from the consequences.

  14. “McCarthy used to call a play and Aaron would look at him and [then] it’s a whole different play. . . .”

    Just as Brady and Belichick share credit for their long run of success in New England, McCarthy and Rodgers share blame for the situation described above,

  15. Brady takes very low pay because his wife makes more than he does. Don’t make it sound like he’s making a buzzumble more; he’s not. Main point being, Pats have an outstanding team aspect in offense, defense and special teams .. period. McCarthy’s system worked when it was new version 10 years ago but time has passed him by without any changes. Hate Rodgers all you want but it hasn’t been a picnic for any Packer the past few years. He can be blamed for some aspects but to blame him for all the problems is questionable at best.

  16. Has there been any former Packers that sing his praise as a leader? Maybe there is. I’d like to hear about it. But it’s clear most of those leaving the Packers, especially WR’s, simply don’t respect AR.

  17. TheDPR says:
    February 6, 2019 at 10:49 am
    Rodgers deserves his status as The Man. Let the coach help that team’s pathetic defense and let Rodgers run things on O. It worked for Peyton Manning, and it worked for ALL quarterbacks back in the day.

    —-

    I am not a Colts fan, or A Packers fan.

    You are right, Manning did change plays on the fly, but to compare the 2 is laughable.

    It is well known and well documented that Manning would also listen to his WR’s on the field regarding what CB’s were doing and make adjustments based on the info that they gave them. There is even a story out there that during his rookie reason and first few times in a live game that Austin Collie told Manning in the huddle that when ever the CB was in X position that he covered him in X way, and that if he changed his route that he would be open for a huge gain . Manning listened and trusted his WR- and when it happened later in the game, Austin ran a different route and Manning hit him deep for a TD. I honestly can not FATHOM Rodgers listening to a rookie WR he had minimal experience with and putting the trust in him to essentially change a play.

    Look, Rodgers honestly might be the most gifted QB I have ever seen play in regards to the physical tangible things, and no one is taking that from him. But we all know that is just a small slice of the position.

    Look AR is a great QB and will be in the HOF one day- He will retire with insane numbers (but also more than likely not win another ring). However, If you are making me pick a QB to play for me- Rogers is multiple slots down the list.

  18. erinrodgersreachednirvana says:

    Literally no one likes the guy.

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    I like the guy. He has made watching football in Green bay a blast for the majority of his time here and you would be lying if you said, that almost every other fan base would prefer to have him over their current QB.

  19. Erik Peterson says:
    February 6, 2019 at 11:20 am
    What does Karbeer Gbaja-Biamila even know- he was out before Aaron became a starter. Once a player that was close to Rodgers or someone who was relevant for longer than 2 years makes a claim about him that’s when I’ll listen.
    /////////
    See my other comment. Feel free to show us quotes from former players that say he is a great leader and they respect him. I’m sure there must be somebody. Maybe. (Note: I don’t want to hear from anybody saying “he’s a great player”. We know that. I want to hear he is a great leader, great guy, and they respect him).

  20. dartmouthstevens: Romo is not only a former starting NFL quarterback, he does his homework for his network job. He can call most of the plays for any team prior to the snap.

  21. Call me when you spoke to players without a axe to grind.

    Greg Jennings, Jermichael Finley, and KGB are not credible sources on the Packers and that is well known.

    Go talk to Charles Woodson, Jordy Nelson and James Jones. I could go on and on with countless former Packers who have nothing but good things to say about the Packers and Aaron Rodgers.

  22. With McCarthy, McCarthy used to call a play and Aaron would look at him and [then] it’s a whole different play. . .
    ____
    And Packer’s fans were critical of McCarthy for the play calling. Good to know nothing is going to change

  23. Rodgers changed the called plays of MM with a ‘I know better arrogance’, what makes anyone think he won’t do same with LaFleur….3rd and 1 and watch Rodgers throw a 35 yd pass when a rb is wide open for an easy 5 and a 1st down. I don’t see Rodgers becoming a ‘ yes man’ to LaFleur but LaFleur becoming more of the ‘yes man’ to Rodgers. He may look like he changed his spots at times but Rodgers is to embedded in his ways to change…he got he fame doing it his way and his way will be the end all going forward until he’s done.No more SB’s for him I fear but the argument as to GOAT vs Brady will be never ending in GB fans minds.

  24. Rodgers is a classic case of a guy being in some funny commercials which convinces some fans he must be a super cool guy in real life. If you’ve paid ANY attention at all to stories about his personal life over the years it’s been quite clear he can be extremely difficult. Lots of people have fights with their parents but how many guys pull out of their buddies weddings on 48 hours notice with no explanation? How many other QBs sign record contracts then instantly gripe about how the salary cap holds their earnings back while in the same breath griping about the play of wide receivers making comparative pennies on their cheap rookie deals? He simply isn’t a very likable guy even though he is a very good QB.

  25. The number 2 would have been important in headline. And, Janica Patrick likes him. I am
    a longtime NFL fan, and two former Packers and a handful of non-experts make no impression on his value with me. But then, I think Andy Dalton is a vert good QB, and also that Ken Anderson belongs in the HOF for sure. Sorry, not a Bengal fan nay-sayers.

  26. erinrodgersreachednirvana says:
    February 6, 2019 at 11:19 am
    Literally no one likes the guy.

    _________________________________________

    He is a prima donna that has reached the pinnacle only once . . . when he was young and coachable. That’s pretty bad for the “best” QB in the league despite the team around him. TB does it every year no matter who’s on his team.

    Even his own family has nothing to do with him and he nothing to do with them. That’s the most telling thing I can see about what kind of person he is!!!!

  27. Disagree about Packer nation turning their backs on Favre. If anything he turned his back on them,seriously, did Joe Montana insist on putting a Chiefs jersey in his hall of fame locker? Rodgers is a jerk,but he has NEVER had a front office that helped him out and I don’t blame him for being salty. Favre leads the universe in interceptions at the worse possible times and snubs a fan base that is still blindly loyal. Yes Rodgers is a pill,no denying that,but please stop giving Favre a pass.

  28. The best part about Rodgers’ rampant arrogance is he will not be able to handle his decline well at all. This year is going to be fun to watch but I honestly feel sorry for LaFleur

  29. Brady takes very low pay because his wife makes more than he does.

    Umm, no. The difference between earning $30 million a year and $22 million a year has effectively zero bearing on his family’s ability to live the way they want. Brady takes “low pay” because he understands the value of having a well-compensated team around him.

  30. One of the most overrated players ever. 1 SB win and the MSSM anointed him the goat. I’m not a major NFL talent scout or GM. I have watched football for 45 years. And I have never understood the accolades thrown at this player. Above average player. Period.

  31. “Rodgers has a history of showing teammates up on the field and failing to take blame when things go poorly. During a Davis Mattek podcast this week, former Packers wide receiver Jeff Janis discussed how detrimental that approach can be.”
    ____
    I’ve been saying the same thing for years yet Packer fans defend Rodgers everytime

  32. “McCarthy used to call a play and Aaron would look at him and [then] it’s a whole different play. . . .”

    ***********************

    Wait a minute, the Packer fans have been saying for years that MM’s play calling was the reason why the Packers weren’t successful. Huh, it looks like AR was changing the plays because he THOUGHT he knew better – so when they don’t work, why do you folks blame MM?

  33. People love saying that Rodgers would have 7 rings by now with Belichick as his coach.

    I say he wouldn’t even win one. No way. No how. Not a chance.

    And this article is the main reason why.

  34. The dude doesn’t even give his receivers his phone number. I’m not sure I ever heard from anyone who personally likes him.

  35. Rodgers is the Lebron James of the NFL.He is a Legendary athlete First Ballot Hall of Famer but a Headache just like Lebron.

  36. It’s called “creating a monster” folks. To get the most out of Rodgers McCarthy never criticized, blamed everyone BUT aaron, praised him as the best, referred to “hail Mary’s” as the greatest passes he’s ever seen and after every loss called him “a hell of a quarterback.” combine that with the media praise, and while u get the most out of him, it’s also going to make him scoff at any criticism.

  37. George Paras says:
    February 6, 2019 at 12:19 pm
    Rodgers is the Lebron James of the NFL…
    ——————————————-

    Lebron is a headache that leads teams to at least the playoff championships every year, even if they do not win; Rodgers is a headache whose team has not seen the playoffs the last two years.

    Advantage Lebron.

  38. bunners1 said: “Brady takes very low pay…”.

    I don’t believe it. More likely, Kraft pays Brady more money indirectly through some secret offshore bank account. The Patriots organization is corrupt, from the owner to the coach to the QB.

  39. Even though my favorite team is an NFCN opponent of the Pack, I’ve always been a pretty big Rodgers fan, and thought that decent NFL QBs had to be a bit arrogant. Yet there does seem to be several different bits of smoke here indicating there may be an underlying fire.

    I am curious to know, at the end of the day, if Packer fans like Favre better than Rodgers?

  40. George Paras says:
    February 6, 2019 at 12:19 pm
    Rodgers is the Lebron James of the NFL.He is a Legendary athlete First Ballot Hall of Famer but a Headache just like Lebron.
    *****
    They might be both headaches, but there’s a huge difference between LeBron James and Aaron Rodgers. LeBron has been to eight straight NBA Finals (9 total) and won 3 of them. Rodgers has been to one Super Bowl and won one. LeBron is in the company of Michael Jordan. Rodgers compares to Doug Williams, Jeff Hostetler, Mark Rypien, Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Joe Flacco and Nick Foles.

  41. “Like Favre better than Rodgers?”

    What do you mean by “like”?

    I don’t know either well personally. I have met both and have the utmost respect for both. I’d be happy to have a beer or a aged Scotch with each or all 3 of us together. Favre and Aaron are now quite close friends.

    Let’s just say Starr, Favre, and Rodgers are my 3 favorite Packers QB’s of all time. If you want me to choose “the best Packers QB ever out of those 3”? I am asked that a lot and would have to wait until Aaron completes his career to answer that question. Premature question.

    Lynn Dickey is up there as well for me. Lynn threw the prettiest long ball of all them. Lynn was a great and underrated player. Lynn is also the QB I know the best personally. Majik is in that group as well.

    GoPackGo!🧀

  42. GoodellMustGo says:
    February 6, 2019 at 12:16 pm
    People love saying that Rodgers would have 7 rings by now with Belichick as his coach.

    I say he wouldn’t even win one. No way. No how. Not a chance.

    And this article is the main reason why.
    ———————————————–

    First time he tried to show Belichick up by changing a play he would be in Cleveland

  43. Two things that drove me crazy more than anything else: Receivers getting no separation, probably due to scheme, and Rodgers not throwing any pass that would be considered a 50/50 ball because he didn’t want to mess up his interception stats. Say what you want about Brett and his penchant for throwing bad interceptions, but at least he was giving his receivers that chance. Rodgers just will not throw that ball. Or he throws it “where only his guy can get it” i.e., low, behind, etc.

    If he turns out to be uncoachable his skin better get thicker because Packers fans do love their players — until they don’t.

  44. thewizardsrevenge says:
    February 6, 2019 at 1:03 pm
    Ever see Herd’s Favre/Rodgers comparison? They’re having the same career.
    ——
    Yes, I have seen it. And I believe Cowherd is mostly comparing the end of their careers.
    Which means, Rodgers is about to make the headache much worse in Green Bay.

  45. GoodellMustGo says:
    February 6, 2019 at 12:16 pm
    People love saying that Rodgers would have 7 rings by now with Belichick as his coach.
    ___________________________________

    Its true cuz If Rodgers had a Belichek coached defense that would hold teams to 13 points in the playoffs, he would have a lot better post-season record. Rodgers has lost MANY post-season games putting up more than 20 points.

  46. freefromwhatyouare says:
    February 6, 2019 at 12:55 pm

    I don’t know either well personally. I have met both and have the utmost respect for both. I’d be happy to have a beer or a aged Scotch with each or all 3 of us together.

    Lynn Dickey is up there as well for me. Lynn is also the QB I know the best personally. Majik is in that group as well.
    _____________

    I’d be curious to know how many restraining orders have your name on them.

  47. I was advised not to feed the troll.

    Moving on..

    Matt Ryan spoke on what he thought LaFleur’s and Aaron’s chances of success were together. Of course Ryan has some knowledge of both individuals. LaFleur was Matt’s QB coach for his MVP season in 2016.

    “I think he is built for long term success(LaFleur) He has a system he believes in. He’s going to be a really good fit for what Aaron does. The zone run scheme is really good. The protection scheme keeps it simple. I think he will do a good job in Green Bay”

    I think they’ll work well together. From my experience with Matt, he was great to work with. He was really good at striking a balance of being supportive and having your back and coaching you hard and getting the best out of you. I think those guys will be good”

  48. Football coaches like their players to do what they are told – that’s why they don;t mind guys who get arrested, they figure they are not that bright. They just want guys to listen, shut up and run through a wall. They don’t liked to be questioned that they might not be as smart – look at Jeff Fisher, he’s the personification of a guy who can talk the talk but if you question him, he benches you or claims you’re a headcase. “uncoachable” also means the coach is not moving at the same speed of the new NFL. Rodgers has the same number of rugs at this point in his career as “uncoachable” Peyton Manning …

  49. Comments from last year give me cause for concern. McCarthy “We are going to make changes to the offense”. Later on says “We are going to tweak the offense”. Followed by Rodgers comment ” I don’t know why you would change what works”. Then all season long same old offense. I hate to admit it but Rodgers may have to go to get back on Earth.

  50. If a quarterback doesn’t think he is great, he isn’t great. Quarterback is about attitude and the expectation to win. Brady had his own leadership style and he has an ego just like every other quarterback. I would think almost every NFL player has a big ego. It is how they got where they are. Cant have a big ego if you aren’t good.

  51. cheeseisfattening says:
    February 6, 2019 at 11:57 am
    “I’ve been saying the same things for years.”

    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

    Yes. Yes, you have.

  52. Meanwhile, Aaron is as always playing in the Pebble Beach Pro-Am starting today with his usual partner Wisconsin native Jerry Kelly.

    His Milwaukee Bucks which he is part owner of have the best record in the NBA.

    Lifes good!

    As Aaron would say if asked about the topic of this article…”Don’t waste your time reading crap like that”

    #GoPackGo!🧀

  53. It is not a secret how Packer fans feel about Packer players as soon as they become former Packers. They are thought of as garbage by Packer fans, for the most part.

    Notice how no former Patriots say things like this about Brady.
    Notice how no former Colts/Broncos say things like this about Manning.
    Notice how no former Packers say things like this about Favre.
    These type of comment while common to Rodgers are also unique to Rodgers.

    Also Packer fans seem not to be able to tell the difference between an audible while reading a defense and an outright disregard of a coach’s play call.

  54. cheeseisfattening says:
    February 7, 2019 at 11:43 am
    It is not a secret how Packer fans feel about Packer players as soon as they become former Packers. They are thought of as garbage by Packer fans, for the most part.

    Notice how no former Patriots say things like this about Brady.
    Notice how no former Colts/Broncos say things like this about Manning.
    Notice how no former Packers say things like this about Favre.
    These type of comment while common to Rodgers are also unique to Rodgers.

    Also Packer fans seem not to be able to tell the difference between an audible while reading a defense and an outright disregard of a coach’s play call.
    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

    Take a pill.

  55. I like all former Packer players, all, except: The ones that trash the organization or trash specific players or the ones that are noted and proven despicable people (and not determined as such through heresay.) Why would I respect an ex-player that holds a grudge for personal reasons? I wouldn’t and I don’t.

    It ain’t rocket science.

  56. stellarperformance says:
    February 7, 2019 at 1:55 pm
    I like all former Packer players, all, except: The ones that trash the organization or trash specific players or the ones that are noted and proven despicable people (and not determined as such through heresay.) Why would I respect an ex-player that holds a grudge for personal reasons? I wouldn’t and I don’t.
    ———————-

    So honest question, why are your thoughts on Chmura? Seems some still hold him in high regard and some blacklist him,

  57. Ever see Herd’s Favre/Rodgers comparison? They’re having the same career.
    =====

    It sure looks like their careers are going to end the same way.

    Some major differences though;

    The Packers were a better organization 1992-1998 than anything Rodgers has been a part of
    Favre never missed games.. Rodgers has missed huge chunks of 2 seasons..
    Favre’s play cost the Packers games (1999.. 2005)… can’t say that about Rodgers overall.. the team has been on his back since 2011

  58. Rodgers is so much better than Favre. Give Rodgers a No. 1 ranked defense and get out of the way. The Vikings had the right idea and thought Cousins might be another Rodgers.

    There’s only one Rodgers and we have him.

  59. There’s only one Rodgers – and Cousins, Stafford, Trubisky, Rosen, Brady, Smith, Goff, And Wilson beat him this year. But at least you can cry about his injuries

  60. RMoss84HOF says:
    February 8, 2019 at 9:00 pm
    There’s only one Rodgers – and Cousins, Stafford, Trubisky, Rosen, Brady, Smith, Goff, And Wilson beat him this year. But at least you can cry about his injuries
    ————
    Rodgers can’t carry a team by himself anymore. And by the time that garbage roster is rebuilt Rodgers will be gone.

  61. This Packer team they’re building has a lot of promise, and is void of overpaid “guarantees.”

  62. wow! dude was changing the plays back when finley was still there!!!! maybe Rodgers, and not Mccarthy, was the problem!
    =====

    Talk to me about McCarthys usually bottom 1/3 ranked defense since 2011……..

    .. then we can nitpick Rodgers.

  63. stellarperformance says:
    February 10, 2019 at 7:38 am
    This Packer team they’re building has a lot of promise, and is void of overpaid “guarantees.”
    ————
    Plenty of excuses for a six win qb though. Please list off all his injuries again while defending a 6 win failure of a season

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