Will there be a significant market for Nick Foles?

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The Eagles seem to be intent on applying the franchise tag to quarterback Nick Foles, not to keep him but to trade him. Specifically, to trade him to a team other than the Giants or Washington.

Given the decision of the Denver Broncos to trade for Joe Flacco in lieu of pursuing Foles, an important question needs to be considered: Will there be a significant market for the Super Bowl LII MVP?

The teams looking for a potential starting quarterback include the Dolphins, the Jaguars, the Giants (maybe), and Washington. Would these teams invest $25 million or more per year in Foles, or would they wait for the draft, where a quarterback would be available at a total value of less than $25 million over four full years?

If the Eagles intend to tag and trade Foles, and with the Broncos officially out of the mix, the non-NFC East options may be the Dolphins and Jaguars — and only the Dolphins and Jaguars. And if the Dolphins decide to pursue a rookie quarterback of their own (the Jets and Bills got their first-rounders in 2018), it leaves the Jaguars as the only viable player for Foles.

So what would the Jaguars give the Eagles to get Foles? More importantly, what would they pay Foles?

If Foles is tagged, he’ll be looking at roughly $25 million fully guaranteed for 2019. It wouldn’t make sense for him to accept a long-term deal worth less than that per year. So would the Jaguars send a mid-round pick to Philly and pay Foles $25 million per year or more?

Maybe. Maybe not. The point is that the Eagles and Foles may not have many options, which gives the Jaguars real leverage. So much leverage that the Jaguars could say to the Eagles, “We’re not paying him $25 million per year.” Which means that, unless someone else will, the Eagles could tag Foles and be stuck with a backup making more than 25 times what the starter will earn in 2019.

Foles’ camp has been conspicuously quiet in recent weeks, at a time when they could be balking about the team’s plan to tag him simply to trade him — a plan that would violate the CBA. Perhaps Foles and his agents are doing nothing to push back against the prospect of being tagged because they’ve made enough calls around the league (sure, it’s tampering; sure, it happens) to know that, for 2019, his best outcome is to get tagged, and to pounce on it.

48 responses to “Will there be a significant market for Nick Foles?

  1. He’s the only decent QB on the market in a QB driven league. SO yes, I think the demand will be huge and hopefully he ends up in Jacksonville. Definitely the best fit for him and with that defense he could have them in the playoffs next year.

  2. Yes and there should be. The Broncos strongly considered Foles before getting cheap and going with Flacco. I think the following teams will strongly pursue Nick Foles: Jacksonville Jaguars, Miami Dolphins, NY Giants, Washington Redskins, Cincinnati Bengals, and possibly even the Oakland Raiders.

    I predict that Foles ends up in Jacksonville and takes the Jags back to the playoffs.

  3. With their defense and maybe adding a few skill position players the Bears would be foolish not to look at Foles as he would push them into the SB contender shortlist in the NFC. Foles also already knows their offense so it would be a smooth transition. It’s a better plan than wasting that defense for the next few years while figuring out if trubisky is anything.

  4. Or they could do the right thing and let him leave as a free agent. They made their choice, live with it and stop trying to have everything your way.

  5. Why wouldn’t the Eagles tag him and keep him as insurance or if Wentz doesnt play well. It would be a different story if they were paying Wentz huge money also. History proves that Foles made them better each of the last 2 seasons. I’m not so sure he would be that good on a different team.

  6. February 15, 2019 at 12:02 pm
    With their defense and maybe adding a few skill position players the Bears would be foolish not to look at Foles as he would push them into the SB contender shortlist in the NFC.
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    Dude. The Bears? There might not be a less likely destination. They have their guy. Nick isn’t going to be a backup.

  7. No idea why the Eagles are dumping a 30 year old QB that has been proven to play well in the playoffs during 3 different tries. Must be collusion to reduce QB compensation back down going with these young guys and then paying them less when their rookie deals are up

  8. therealjr says:
    February 15, 2019 at 12:03 pm
    Or they could do the right thing and let him leave as a free agent. They made their choice, live with it and stop trying to have everything your way.
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    Except it’s probably not the right thing. I’ve been saying for weeks the best thing for Nick is for him to get tagged. He’ll make more money that way.

  9. Hope the Redskins stay smart and draft a Quarterback, they are not going anywhere this season anyhow. They would be stupid to add his salary on top of what they are paying now. But Bruce Allen has done worse things.

  10. It only took a month for you to recognize the fact that tagging Foles would really only violate the CBA if Foles had a problem with it. In other words, no flag, no penalty.

  11. Jacksonville is going QB in the draft.

    No is going to give him a long term deal with starter’s money.

    Nick Foles will be back with the Eagles next year.

  12. I’d be seriously considering keeping Foles. He’s been clutch in the playoffs and Wentz is completely unproven and so far been prone to injury.

  13. No Foles will a STRONG but limited market of teams seeking his services. I expect 4 teams seriously interested in Foles. Other teams should be they are poorly run. I.E. Broncos are going down hill due to bad decisions. Flacco is not the answer but they went with him. They doubled down on a second QB mistake. I am a fan from a team from the NFC so I do not have an axe to grind but this is just one example of poor team management.

  14. Jags are $4 million OVER the cap. They’d have to cut 1/2 the team to afford his deal. No one here is talking about Foles because we know he’s too big of a cap hit. We can only sign players we draft. Anyone talking Foles to Jax is a blooming idiot.

  15. It’s pretty hard to Prove intent. Eagles could keep Carson. Eagles could keep Foles and trade Carson. Ultimately Foles has the leverage and if he wants to leave after Eagles wish to keep him, Eagles tag in good faith. There’s no violation in the CBA so stop pushing that narrative.

  16. I think Foles is the best QB available this year. The Broncos would have done better to pay that money to Foles instead of over-the-hill Jumpball Joe.

    Where could he make the most impact? I think that’s Jacksonville. The only thing holding the Jags back the past few years was Bortles. He’s so terrible that they were lucky to win any games with him under center. If Foles was their QB this year they probably would have won six more games. However, if I were Foles I’d want no part of Jacksonville for one reason–their offensive line is atrocious. They have ignored the OL for YEARS and during that time their offensive line has been among the worst. It’s filled with journeyman or people cut from other teams or undrafted free agents. They finally started doing something last year but it wasn’t nearly enough. They should spend their first four picks in the next two drafts to address the OL. They should have done it this year but they drafted a DL instead of an OL. Knowing Jacksonville, they’ll probably do the same this year. The Giants OL isn’t much better.

    I wouldn’t want to go to Washington for one reason–Daniel Snyder. As long as he’s the owner you can forget about them being competitive.

    I think Foles best chance of succeeding would be in Miami unless he were to somehow stay in Philly. I know Wentz is the QB of the future but when Foles was in it looked like a different team. It’ll be interesting to see where he winds up.

  17. I doubt that Foles has many significant suitors in this process. He has shown to be inconsistent and to be a one read system QB. He is a SB winning QB, but, with his history, that isn’t enough to get a team to make him “the answer”. He’s a journeyman backup.

  18. Think about this…. If Philly were to franchise tag Foles, why wouldn’t they want to trade him to Washington or the New York Giants? A significant portion of those team’s salary cap would be tied up on a QB and they would not be able to employ the “draft a cheap QB and fill your team with other big money free agents scheme” as both Philly & the LA Rams did to get to the last 2 Super Bowls. Wouldn’t it also be similar to what Philly did to Washington when they dealt them McNabb? By the way, how did that work out for Washington?

  19. I’ve been saying this from the get go. Foles has all the power, Eagles have nothing here. Doesn’t matter how good he is, every team has internal options or the ability to draft someone, so they can wait out the Eagles who can’t afford to keep him on the roster.

    All the people expecting some grand return are just delusional. Why would any GM ever give up high tier draft capitol for a QB that they immediately have to pay? Doesn’t make much sense.

  20. February 15, 2019 at 12:02 pm
    With their defense and maybe adding a few skill position players the Bears would be foolish not to look at Foles as he would push them into the SB contender shortlist in the NFC. Foles also already knows their offense so it would be a smooth transition. It’s a better plan than wasting that defense for the next few years while figuring out if trubisky is anything.

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    surprised you doubt on trubisky so much. he has shown to be a heck of a qb. going after foles would be foolish for chicago in my opinion. they just signed mack to a mega deal bc they can afford to bc they have a low priced high quality qb. personally i think he will end up playing for miami. jax would be spending almost 42 mill for 2 qbs with one not on the roster and taking a 16 mil dead cap figure if they cut bortles. if bortles doesnt get cut then hes gonna count 21 against the cap making the possible cost of both qbs almost 50 mil. i feel like jax is stuck in their current hell bc of that ridiculous extension they gave bortles.

  21. Jags fans that don’t want Foles crack me up!
    You guys have a team built to win now. Not 3 years down the road when a rookie finally gets it together. You have a front office and coaching staff that needs to win now. And, you as fans should want to win now and not waste that defense!

    How many rebuilding years do you Jags fans wish to endure? Haven’t you been rebuilding since Brunell declined? And a whopping $4 million over the cap? Coughlin can easily free up plenty of cap room by cutting Bortles and restructuring some contracts!

    I don’t get fans that would prefer their team loses cheaply than wins while spending! The Eagles are way over the cap but I couldn’t care less because we finally won the Super Bowl!

  22. dadsource says:

    Jags are $4 million OVER the cap. They’d have to cut 1/2 the team to afford his deal. No one here is talking about Foles because we know he’s too big of a cap hit. We can only sign players we draft. Anyone talking Foles to Jax is a blooming idiot.

    They may be over the cap now but that’s a temporary situation. More than likely they are going to cut several high-priced players: Bortles (save $4M in cap space), Bouye ($9.4M), Malik Jackson ($11M), Marcel Dareus (~$10.6M) and maybe even Calais Campbell ($9.5M). However I think they’ll keep Campbell. He’s worth it both on the field and in the locker room. Gipson ($7.45M) may also be gone.

    It’s safe to say their window was last year…until Bortles single-handedly broke the window into pieces so small you’d need a microscope to see the pieces.

  23. Let’s keep this simple..1.Eagles have already made it clear that Wentz is their QB of the future. They are not going to pay starter money to keep Foles(they dont have the cap room anyway). 2. If they just let him walk, they probably get a compensatory 3rd rd pick in 2020. 3. They only franchise him if they have a deal in place that brings them a better draft pick than a 3rd rounder in 2020. 4. GM Roseman is not a fool, will do what’s in the best interest of the team.

  24. No, I don’t believe there will be. Despite doing it well enough on the biggest stage. Foles success sample size is still very small in this league.

    To make anything other than a short term investment on Foles could prove to be a huge mistake and possibly set ones franchise back several years.

  25. How do you know the Eagles aren’t planning on keeping Foles and trading Wentz. Right now Wentz looks injury prone and moving more towards being a bust (and if rumors are correct a locker room jerk) so why not trade him now, while everyone still thinks he is great QB, to some one like the Raiders who have plenty of draft picks; say a 1st this year and next year, the Raiders should not be good this year so expect at least a top 10 next year when that draft looks far more loaded with QB’s. Foles seems to be the better QB at moment.

    The Raiders then probably could get a 3rd or 4th pick for Carr.

  26. therealjr says:

    February 15, 2019 at 12:03 pm

    Or they could do the right thing and let him leave as a free agent. They made their choice, live with it and stop trying to have everything your way.
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    IT’S A BUSINESS.

  27. “… a plan that would violate the CBA.”

    Lol. I know you keep pushing this but has anyone been charged for violating the CBA this way? The Patriots weren’t when they traded Matt Cassel years ago. The Dolphins weren’t when they traded Jarvis Landry last year. The CBA allows a team to trade a franchised player if they can’t come to an agreement on a fair long term deal. Can we just give it a rest already?

  28. 302Eaglesfan there’s only one big thing you’re forgetting. Philly already came and said that they’re going with Wentz as their QB of the future so everyone knows, as you should, that they’re only tagging Foles so they can trade him. And that is definitely a violation of the CBA. Stop pretending like that’s not what they’re doing

  29. It’s not at all true that he’ll make more money tagged. He could potentially sign a Cousins like deal for nearly $100 million guaranteed without the tag. You are assuming he gets tagged and then signs that deal, but once he signs that tender nothing else must be done. Take off your Eagles glasses.

  30. Foles is a legit QB and certainly better than Flacco and the entire 2019 Draft class. The problem is the suitors: Jags, Dolphins, Redskins and Giants all issues. The Skins and Giants for obvious reasons; although Redskins makes the most sense. The Cap is the problem. Yes, it temporary as they make post June Cuts and FA purge. However, speaking only for the Dolphins situation; no way do they have the Cap maneuver. Cutting Tannehill still costs more than $13.4M in dead money and Suh and others are still on the books. They barely have $18M. Optimistically, they might get $70M after the purge, but need to sign nearly an entire new team!! I would bet anyone Foles does not come to Miami… except when playing the Jags.

  31. bobmillion says:
    February 15, 2019 at 1:06 pm
    How do you know the Eagles aren’t planning on keeping Foles and trading Wentz. Right now Wentz looks injury prone and moving more towards being a bust (and if rumors are correct a locker room jerk) so why not trade him now, while everyone still thinks he is great QB, to some one like the Raiders who have plenty of draft picks; say a 1st this year and next year, the Raiders should not be good this year so expect at least a top 10 next year when that draft looks far more loaded with QB’s. Foles seems to be the better QB at moment.

    The Raiders then probably could get a 3rd or 4th pick for Carr.

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    sure. because the raiders, who dumped mack for a 1st so they wouldnt have to pay him, are just gonna dish out 2 first round picks for foles when they already have carr for the same amount. that would be a crazy move, and by crazy i mean horrible. i guess i dont understand why you would assume two guys with as much combined coaching, scouting, and draft experience as gruden and mayock would actually do that. carr played great ball down the stretch. plus hes two years younger than foles and played in the system last year.

  32. “Jags are $4 million OVER the cap. They’d have to cut 1/2 the team to afford his deal. No one here is talking about Foles because we know he’s too big of a cap hit. We can only sign players we draft. Anyone talking Foles to Jax is a blooming idiot.”

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    Thank you! Everyone is whipping around their wishful thinking for where their unwanted QBs – Foles, Dalton, Tannehill, until recently Flacco — will go without ever considering that the landing spot needs to actually want the guy and be able to afford him.

    I’ve been hammering on this with everyone who imagines their unwanted QB going to Washington. Washington is not going to put Foles’ 25M into a QB room that already has 24M in it. They’d have by far the most expensive QB room in history with only Foles to show for it. Not realistic!

  33. rkt4mayor says:
    February 15, 2019 at 12:02 pm
    Yes and there should be. The Broncos strongly considered Foles before getting cheap and going with Flacco. I think the following teams will strongly pursue Nick Foles: Jacksonville Jaguars, Miami Dolphins, NY Giants, Washington Redskins, Cincinnati Bengals, and possibly even the Oakland Raiders.

    I predict that Foles ends up in Jacksonville and takes the Jags back to the playoffs
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    Foles would be awful on Jaguars and they have a tough division

  34. rkt4mayor says:
    February 15, 2019 at 12:55 pm
    Jags fans that don’t want Foles crack me up!
    You guys have a team built to win now. Not 3 years down the road when a rookie finally gets it together. You have a front office and coaching staff that needs to win now. And, you as fans should want to win now and not waste that defense!

    How many rebuilding years do you Jags fans wish to endure? Haven’t you been rebuilding since Brunell declined? And a whopping $4 million over the cap? Coughlin can easily free up plenty of cap room by cutting Bortles and restructuring some contracts!

    I don’t get fans that would prefer their team loses cheaply than wins while spending! The Eagles are way over the cap but I couldn’t care less because we finally won the Super Bowl!

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    Jaguars have no chance in that divison they are in foles would be a big mistake

  35. Miami should try to get Foles – Better than Tannehill at the same price. Seriously. They only have 10 mil in dead cap if they cut R.T. or they will have to pay him 25 mil in ’19. Everyone knows that Tannehill isn’t a 25 mil QB.

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