Patriots’ interest in OBJ made Giants think twice about trading him

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The Giants came close to trading receiver Odell Beckham Jr. last year. And then they didn’t trade him.

So what happened? As Chris Simms explained on Monday’s PFT Live, New England’s interest in Beckham ultimately caused the Giants to think twice. Basically, if the Patriots saw something in Beckham that would have caused them to give up significant trade compensation and to cough up a significant second contract even though he’d never previously played for the Patriots, the Giants should be more inclined to keep him around.

The fears may have been well founded. Although the Patriots haven’t had a solid track record of drafting receivers, they’ve found some of their best receivers in the Belichick-Brady era by trading for veterans like Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Brandin Cooks, and Chris Hogan. So if the Patriots were willing to pull the trigger on a Beckham trade, the Patriots truly believed that Beckham would have become a major difference-maker.

Whether he would have been a major difference-maker is a different question. It takes a certain kind of personality to accept The Patriot Way; former NFL receiver Chad Johnson was required to check his personality at the door when traded by the Bengals in 2011 — and he promptly struggled during his short time in New England. Beckham quite possibly would have had the same experience.

The Patriots apparently were banking on Beckham thriving, with coach Bill Belichick, offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels, and quarterback Tom Brady providing the kind of structure, support, and (ultimately) success that would have kept Beckham from engaging in periodic outbursts fundamentally fueled by a burning desire to win.

Regardless, New England’s interest was enough to get the Giants to trade Beckham to no one last year. Whether that could change this year will be the subject of an upcoming blurb.

56 responses to “Patriots’ interest in OBJ made Giants think twice about trading him

  1. I do think you’re onto something when you reference the desire to win among upper echelon athletes… and one could do an interesting review of cases of “bad behavior” by talented types who toil in obscurity on losing teams….as being, at least in part, attributable to the enormous frustration of seeing themselves working for middling managers, or worse.

  2. So the Giant’s brass have more trust in New England’s football people’s opinion than their own?
    If I’m a Giant fan this is not reassuring…

  3. You take this deal every time, BB can lose in trades too he is human after all, and OBJ’s mind seems to be on everything but football which wouldn’t mesh well with the Patriots. The Raiders are headed towards a 2000’s Raiders type of collapse.

  4. Thank goodness.

    He’s extremely talented. But brings a lot of drama.

    Definitely NOT the Patriot way…

  5. I see what John Mara thought, send one of the biggest media hungry players to the organization that doesn’t run on those types. Perhaps that’ll destroy the evil empire haha(all sarcasm)

  6. Call me a conspiracist, but this feels like a leak designed to increase compensation for OBJ. As in, “see the Patriots wanted him, so you would definitely want him too!”

  7. Kid: “He sucks”

    Popular Kid: “I think he’s pretty good”

    Kid: “Actually, now that I see it, you’re right he is good.”

  8. That’s right, Marcus. Chad’s issues were a combination of not being able to grasp the playbook, AND the fact that he was at the end of his career. Though, his tenure with the Pats was a disappointment on the field, he blended into the Pats culture very well.

  9. Matt Perry says:
    February 18, 2019 at 1:44 pm
    Thank goodness.

    He’s extremely talented. But brings a lot of drama.

    Definitely NOT the Patriot way…

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    Like what? What drama? I think you are confusing him with Antonio Brown. Odell really hasn’t done anything for teams or fans to freak out about.

  10. marcuswelby70 says:
    February 18, 2019 at 1:52 pm
    Chad Johnsons struggles were with the playbook…had nothing to do with his attitude.

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    From everything that was said about Ocho-Cinco he couldn’t learn ANY playbook… T.J. Hushmazilly (sarcasm) was on record saying he had to tell Johnson where to line up and what route on EVERY PLAY CALLED. That is why he was ultimately out of the league after his short time with Pats.

  11. Matt Perry says:
    February 18, 2019 at 1:44 pm
    Thank goodness.

    He’s extremely talented. But brings a lot of drama.
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    Maybe he would contribute to the Pats like Corey Dillon or Randy Moss, or maybe he would bust like Johnson or Haynesworth. Impossible to know unless he dons a Pats uniform. Obviously BB has banked so much house money, and is a sensational HC, that he can get away with his periodic personnel mistakes.

  12. The biggest issue in NY is their insistence that Eli is still a viable QB. He is not. Anyone watching giant games can see OBJ getting sepereration in critical moments and either,a. not getting a look, or b. having to adjust to an off-schedule pass. OBJ certainly doesn’t help himself with the diva tantrums, but one thing is sure, he wants to win and be an important cog in the offense, which is evidenced by how hard he plays and the numbers he has been able to generate even with all the shortcomings of his current qb.

  13. The ultimate respect.

    My two cents: he wouldn’t work out here. I don’t think they could get him out of the “me” ingrained in him over to “team” success above all else. Moss bought in, if only for a while before his predicted expiration date.

    I’d love for Beady to have him as option. Watching Chris Hogan run in molasses trying to get open is getting tough to stomach.

  14. It would be quite amazing if the New England Patriots end up trading or signing Odell Beckham, Antonio Brown and Josh Rosen.

  15. This is fake news. Belichick traded Cooks when he saw what Sammi freakin Watkins got for a contract. No way would he, or is he going to pay a prima donna receiver $16m a year.

  16. fanfrommontreal says:
    February 18, 2019 at 1:38 pm
    So the Giant’s brass have more trust in New England’s football people’s opinion than their own?
    If I’m a Giant fan this is not reassuring…

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    It’s a game. Giants fans have better things to worry about – like real life.

  17. Be careful about labeling a player difficult or a headache…..the league might have settle for millions again! Just remember, no Millennial can be held responsible for their actions of face any consequences lest oppression occur!

  18. The Patriots won the SB without OBJ, so it is unlikely they will be interested in him this season. May be they will try to get Antonio Brown for much less than they were willing to give up for OBJ.

  19. If that’s true, it may be the saddest thing I’ve ever heard. So all of your football minds get together, consider all of the positives and negatives of trading an asset, review all the scenarios, decide to pursue a trade, and then chicken out because some other team thinks the asset is worth having? Why did you bother to any analysis at all?

    I understand that the Patriots are renting space in everyone’s head, but can’t the team that’s actually beaten them twice in the Super Bowl operate on their own without worrying about what BB would do?

  20. Odell is the best receiver in the league…If he had a HOF caliber QB throwing him the ball…my goodness would he be unstoppable…

  21. “May be they will try to get Antonio Brown for much less than they were willing to give up for OBJ.”

    Can’t see that happening. Steelers are not going to reward Brown that way even if the Pats make a good offer.

    Furthermore can you imagine the fecal storm in Pittsburgh if they traded Brown to the Pats, he was a good citizen in New England, and the Pats got back to the AFCC or the Super Bowl again and the Steelers were in their rear view mirror again? It would be massive.

  22. Maybe Bill did not want Beckham to go to someone like the Chiefs, Chargers, Colts, Saints, or some other top echelon team so he put out this little tidbit to keep him on a loser team. Bill is playing upper level chess while almost everyone else like Reid and McVay are trying to figure out how to play checkers.

  23. Lots of comments about Chad Johnson. Despite his problems with the playbook or Brady, I felt if the Patriots could have utilized his skills more in the 2012 Super Bowl, they could have beaten the Giants.
    He had one catch for 21 yrds, but I kept wondering why the Patriots didnt throw it to him more. Brady just didnt trust him enough.

  24. Remember last year when 49er fans thought they fleeced NE in the Garapollo trade, and then gave up Trent Brown as an afterthought?

    Frankly I don’t blame the Giants of being scared to death of doing a deal with NE and looking like a fool the next season.

  25. So much for Edelman’s garbage about the Patriot way and not having any part of players who pull off diva stunts and distractions like Brown’s Facebook stunt. Proves again how full of crap the Patriots are. They went hard after the league’s top diva and distractions artist.

  26. Seriously? The Giants thought he was garbage until THE PATRIOTS showed he wasn’t? Can someone get the Giants a sports almanac or refer them to some simple stat sheets. What’s more embarrassing than this being true is the Giants allowing this to leak out, exposing what a bunch of palookas are running that place …

  27. The fears may have been well founded. Although the Patriots haven’t had a solid track record of drafting receivers, they’ve found some of their best receivers in the Belichick-Brady era by trading for veterans like Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Brandin Cooks, and Chris Hogan.

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    Can’t expect a “solid record” if they never drafted WRs in the first two rounds. The last WR taken higher than round 3 was in 2013 where NE spent a late 2nd rounder on Aaron Dobson. Otherwise you have to go all the way back to 1996 for a 1st round WR.

    I wouldn’t even expect any of NE’s WRs to be a HOFer or be a game changer because of where they were drafted.

  28. thegreatjimbrown says:
    February 18, 2019 at 2:51 pm

    “The BIG difference…The Pats have Brady…GMEN have ELI!!!!!”

    Yeah, the NYG have the one guy who has beat Brady in the Super Bowl TWICE!
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    Clinging to glory there. The GOAT has done a lot of grazing since then. That was FOUR Superbowl appearances ago, THREE Superbowl wins ago, two SB MVP’s ago, 1 League MVP ago- well, you get it!!!

  29. If the Giants traded him last year for two first-rounders, that might have been a good move.

    But signing him to a new deal, paying quite a bit of it up front and then trading him for less than they would have gotten a year ago?

    The Giants would have to be a bunch of idiots to do that.

  30. thegreatjimbrown says:
    February 18, 2019 at 2:51 pm

    “The BIG difference…The Pats have Brady…GMEN have ELI!!!!!”

    Yeah, the NYG have the one guy who has beat Brady in the Super Bowl TWICE!

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    Eli didn’t beat Brady. Strahan, Tuck, Umenyiora, Kiwanuka and Pierre-Paul did. And Shaun O’Hara holding Richard Seymour by the throat during the “helmet catch” certainly helped.

  31. Have the giants even made the playoffs since then? Shame I have to “Google” that question….google had to ask siri and I have to go to work. Doesn’t really matter if they did or didn’t.. Now does it.

  32. testmicroblog22 says:
    February 18, 2019 at 2:43 pm
    I see this as the NYG management worried about the blowback of having OBJ successful in NE. No one wants to be made to look bad.
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    This. NE fans aren’t the only vocal bunch in the North East. Giant fans are bipolar with their star players and intolerable on anything New England. If OBJ had success with New England, NY Sports radio would be calling for heads to roll.

  33. upthread someone swung and missed with this, “I think his only true elite…”

    Wes Welker
    Julian Edelman
    Tyrannus T. Gronk

    you were saying?

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    I believe the above-mentioned post was referencing elite wide receivers that played with Brady. Elite as in first ballot HOF. Welker? Wont make the Hall. Edelman, maybe but certainly not first ballot. Gronk is a te and first ballot.

  34. he can get away with his periodic personnel mistakes
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    personnel mistakes are inevitable by every team. it’s the accepted nature of the business. belichick is the goat GM because he does the best job of limiting the downside of the mistakes AND hits the most home runs.

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