Adam Thielen’s agent is optimistic about a new deal

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Vikings receiver Adam Thielen makes much less than Vikings receiver Stefon Diggs. And both Thielen and the Vikings seem to be committed to closing that gap.

Agent Blake Baratz, appearing on SKOR North in Minnesota, expressed optimism that an adjusted deal will be negotiated for Thielen, who has become one of the best receivers in the NFL. Baratz believes it will happen without Thielen holding out.

Adam’s not that type of person,” Baratz said, via Courtney Cronin of ESPN.com. “I would never condone a player to hold out or be disruptive if it wasn’t for a very valid reason, and [what’s not] a valid reason, to me, is both sides working in good faith to come to a conclusion that makes sense for everybody.”

Baratz added that Adam wants to remain in Minnesota, and that the Vikings want to financially reward Thielen, a local success story who came from virtually nowhere to become a star player.

“No one’s being greedy,” Baratz said. “Everyone understands the situation and it’s really in their court. He has a couple of years left on his deal but he’s earned a significant pay raise.”

Thielen enters the third season of a four-year, $19.246 million base deal. Diggs has a five-year, $72 million contract.

The Vikings have been paying big contracts to their nucleus of key players (with the exception of linebacker Anthony Barr). With quarterback Kirk Cousins making $28 million per year on a three-year deal, however, only so much money will remain for other players and positions. In a pass-happy league, however, it makes sense for teams to find multiple great receivers, and to compensate them accordingly.

47 responses to “Adam Thielen’s agent is optimistic about a new deal

  1. Adam cares about Adam. At first he was a good story, now he’s just annoying. Good player but not great. He’s not a guy teams game plan against.

  2. I can see him getting a nice extension and unfortunately, it means Everson and Barr will have to go, or at least not stick around at their current asking prices.

    Hopefully Everson takes a reduced-contract to stay. The Vikings paid him handsomely for several missed games last year and stood by his side when he went through his valleys, he can reward us back.

  3. As a Vikings fan I love Thielen and story. His never give up effort is a joy to watch. However, once the league started focusing on him over Diggs later in the year he was nowhere to be found. Star players get open no matter what gameplan is, it’s more of a contain plan. He wa shutdown. He’s by far one of the best Z receivers in the game, but let’s not confuse him with an X receivers salary that’ll handcuff the team.

  4. Might be trying to keep the overall cost down over the next 4-5 years. They got a bargain with Hunter that way compared to what pass rushers are making nowadays.

  5. “Adam’s not that type of person,” Baratz said, via Courtney Cronin of ESPN.com. “I would never condone a player to hold out or be disruptive if it wasn’t for a very valid reason, and [what’s not] a valid reason, to me, is both sides working in good faith to come to a conclusion that makes sense for everybody.”

  6. Transalation: Holding out is a valid option if the Vikings don’t ante up and pay Thielen a reasonable representation of what he is worth.

    Blake Baratz is a third-tier agent. Thielen should get better representation.

  7. They will get it done ~ Money can be pulled from the smallest of cracks for all teams if a team really wants to sign someone ~

  8. Let’s not get too excited about a new deal, after the first half of the season this guy disappeared and folded like a paper tent………………

  9. A contract is a contract and he signed it no one forced him.If a player doesn’t live up to the contract do they owe the team money No if he plays better than what’s he payed should he get a new contract no.I hope Vikings dont cave because if they do it will be a domino affect

  10. Actually it makes more sense for the Vikings to trade him at the end of the season, he should have a lot of trade value.

  11. That’s a really big gap between what those 2 receivers are making. Other players also want to get paid on the Vikings too … there just isn’t going to be enough $$$ to go around. The window for them is closing fast.

  12. It would not shock me for Thielen to accept less than Diggs, as long as it closes the gap. While Theilen is better in some ways, he doesn’t come across as the money grabber that has to be the highest paid WR on his team. So, he might not get to Diggs’ AAV, but could still get to double digit millions per season.

  13. scoocha says:
    February 20, 2019 at 8:33 am
    Thielen should thank Goodell for changing the rules all these years ago or else he would have 0% chance of success in the NFL.
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    So when will all of the other undrafted free agents be showing up to become stars in the NFL due to “changing the rules”?

  14. Love Thielen and his story….but I am concerned that he was a non-factor 2nd half of the season. Looks like DC’s can take him completely out when they want to.

  15. “AT > AB”

    Apparently, you don’t watch much Football.
    Heck it’s not even true if you are just going alphabetically
    Good try but since 2011 no WR has been as good as AB. It’s not even close.
    Yeah, he’s a mental case, but that hasn’t stopped him from embarrassing DBs for years.

  16. Unfortunately the Vikings have paid out big contracts to their nucleus of key players including the huge payout to Cousins so it looks like Thielen is out of luck. However he is a local kid who will probably take less to stay with his home town team and the Vikings management is aware of that, no matter what his agent wants.

  17. scoocha says:
    February 20, 2019 at 8:33 am
    Thielen should thank Goodell for changing the rules all these years ago or else he would have 0% chance of success in the NFL.

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    Actually you can thank Bill Polian for that

  18. “Excited for a deal — with the Patriots.”

    I don’t think so. When Minny played the Pats last year they took Thielens out of the game and he had no impact. He looked awfully soft to me and not Pats material

  19. We all know what Thielen can do because we’ve seen it with several different QBs. Pay the man, he’s worth it.

    As for those suggesting that he was ineffective during the second half of the season, that starts with having a QB willing to give your receivers a chance. Cousins melted under pressure when facing better defenses in the second half of the season. Thielen and Diggs are two of the best at fighting for contested throws, but you can’t go after the ball if it isn’t thrown anywhere in your vicinity.

    The problem is Cousins can’t get them the ball because he wants to stand in the pocket like a statue instead of doing what is necessary to avoid the rush.

  20. George Paras says:
    February 20, 2019 at 7:06 am
    A contract is a contract and he signed it no one forced him.If a player doesn’t live up to the contract do they owe the team money No if he plays better than what’s he payed should he get a new contract no.
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    So, do you apply the same “logic” to teams who cut players even though they have years left on contracts? What about when teams demand pay cuts for players who aren’t living up to the contract for whatever reason such as scheme, injuries while in the service of the team, etc? You can’t blame players for not honoring contracts when teams don’t either.

  21. lol. lots of hopeful packer fans that the vikings will not bring theilan back. keep dreaming. he’s signed for 2 more years. he isn’t going anywhere. vikings will pay up and backload a new contract if they have to. why do you think Barr, Richardson, and possibly Griffen could be on the way out? the vikings would cut loose Cousins long before they would let Thielan go.

    Vikings have a lot of young emerging talent on defense: jayln holmes, alexander, kearse, harris, holton hill, hughes, weatherly, bowers, jaleel johnson. the vikings know this, and they know that some of these long time veterans like Barr, Richardson, and Griffen, and possibly waynes next year, can be let go and they likely would get better because of the youth movement from guys who also want to get a nice big contract. good dependable receivers like diggs and thielan are hard to come by, so you keep them around. but zimmer is so good at developing defensive players that the stars become expendable at some point. don’t be surprised if Rhodes is traded too. holton hill looks like his replacement.

    but at the same time, this team has proven to be a failure when building an offensive line and getting a good long term QB, and this will continue until Spielman is gone. So i have zero hope for this teams future.

  22. scoocha says:
    February 20, 2019 at 8:33 am

    Thielen should thank Goodell for changing the rules all these years ago or else he would have 0% chance of success in the NFL.
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    I’m trying to think of an era in the NFL when a guy who is fast, tough, runs great routes, and catches everything thrown to him would not be successful.

  23. 3 Years ago he was a nobody, and Minnesota gave him 20 million dollars. Either the Vikings are really smart and seen his talent, or really stupid and spend money recklessly. He should be giving a raise, but once teams game planned him his production did drop a bit and you have to take in account to that. He has two seasons left on contract. If i was the vikings I would sit back and wait it out. He is not worth Diggs money and they have other pressing needs on defense as well as o-line.

  24. kingofsports810 says:
    February 20, 2019 at 12:52 pm
    He has two seasons left on contract. If i was the vikings I would sit back and wait it out. He is not worth Diggs money and they have other pressing needs on defense as well as o-line.
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    His numbers were better than Diggs. He is 28 years old, which is prime. It’s smart to rework his contract right now before the price goes up in year 2 with the same QB.

  25. If they were going to sign Barr, that would have been done last summer. Of all Vikings players re-signing, the last one to worry about it Thielen. I’d pin the second half downturn on two things: first, the unsustainability of the first half production by any NFL WR, and second, Cousins and the O-line’s decreasing performance in the second half of the season. Having multiple decent WRs deserving of good contracts is a good problem to have – better than one good one and a bunch of average, lazy 4th and 5th rounders.

  26. Final 8 games last season he had 57 catches for 448 yards. Maybe he was banged up, or maybe when the D decided he deserved more attention he found it tougher.

    But one thing I know for certain is he’s as young as Randall Cobb is old (they were born on the same day).

  27. @JMan967…… AT>AB ….I thought AB = Anthony Barr, not Antonio Brown. As in, who should the Vikings be more concerned about right now. Maybe not.

  28. If I were the Vikings I wouldn’t touch his contract this year. Thielen if he hits his incentives like he has been will earn $14 million dollars. That is more than enough.

  29. I don’t think he’s worth anymore than he’s earning now. He’s a good slot receiver but as the #2 option & Diggs #1. Both of them are too small and by the end of the year break down and the stats plummet. How many yards did he have in the last 8 games of the season, 400? How many TD’s? 2 I think. In 8 games.

  30. Thielen has played quite well over the last couple of seasons.
    He was off to a stellar start this last year, and the fact that he had such a severe drop off, I believe, says more about Diggs than it does about Thielen.
    Where was Stefon to pick up the slack? Overpaid.

    What just might be more troubling is Thielen’s mental toughness.
    It seems that after defenses began to focus on him more, he became unglued at various times.
    Becoming unhinged and berating a future Hall of Fame coach to the point he had to be pulled away by the officials, and then openly arguing with your QB on the sidelines while your team’s playoff future hangs precariously in the balance, were just a couple of red flags everyone else in the league noticed.
    Either it’s mental discipline, or he’s just a complete arrogant jerk.
    I hope it’s the former.

    If so, he’s going to have to figure out a way to deal with the defensive scrutiny that success breeds, as well as his fragile emotional makeup if he wants to truly succeed in this league.

    The Vikings don’t even have the cap room to talk extension right now anyway, so it’s a moot point.
    Hopefully, Thielen doesn’t push the point.

  31. fmc651 says:
    February 21, 2019 at 7:22 am
    If I were the Vikings I wouldn’t touch his contract this year. Thielen if he hits his incentives like he has been will earn $14 million dollars. That is more than enough.
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    The max he can make this year is 8.1 million.

  32. Nope because of his 2019 season Adam’s base of $5,5 million increased his base salary to $8.35 million. And he has more incentives from there.

  33. vikesfansteve says:
    February 21, 2019 at 7:42 am

    I don’t think he’s worth anymore than he’s earning now. He’s a good slot receiver but as the #2 option & Diggs #1. Both of them are too small and by the end of the year break down and the stats plummet. How many yards did he have in the last 8 games of the season, 400? How many TD’s? 2 I think. In 8 games.
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    He’s 6’2″, 200 pounds. I think that’s plenty big for a wide receiver.

    He had 448 yards and 3 TDs in the last 8 games, to be exact. The dropoff is to be expected after having such a dominant first half of the season. Teams are going to scheme to take you out of the game and it’s incumbent on the offensive coordinator to take advantage of that defense to open things up for other players. DeFilippo was unable to counter the adjustments defenses made and that’s why he’s gone. Cousins’ performance dropped off significantly in the second half of the season, too. I’d say Thielen is the last guy to blame for the drop in production.

  34. Nope. If he had those kind of triggers in his contract, he would have made 14 million with the year he had last year. He made 6,350,000 last year with base plus incentives. The max value of his contract is somewhere in the area of 25-27 million, depending upon on the report. If he had the ability to make 14 million annually, he’d be in a pretty good position, outside of the lack of guaranteed money. According to nfl.com, he has a cap hit of 8.1 million this year, another source has him at 8.35.

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