Kyler Murray tops 5-foot-10 at the Combine

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Kyler Murray is not as short as people are making him out to be.

Murray was measured at the Scouting Combine today and came in at one-eighth of an inch over 5-foot-10, making him taller than many believed.

He also weighed in at 207 pounds, which was again bigger than many thought he would be. And his hand measured at 9.5 inches, which is not a huge hand by any stretch of the imagination but is big enough.

Murray is only half an inch shorter and three pounds heavier than Russell Wilson, who has gone on to be an excellent NFL quarterback. Murray’s measurements should go a long way toward showing he’s big enough to play in the NFL.

94 responses to “Kyler Murray tops 5-foot-10 at the Combine

  1. Did anyone check him for shoe lifts?
    Seriously though, 5’10”+ and 207 lbs. No one could be happier for this then the Cardinals. That puts Murray live for first overall and gives them a really good chance of getting a draft haul for that spot.

  2. still don’t believe it. having been someone who has stood right next to him, he is my height, which is just over 5’9… but i guess this means i can put 5’10 on my drivers license and not feel bad about it!

  3. Some team in all liklihood will now end up trading up to #1 overall giving Arizona a nice package of draft picks for the right to do so. Arizona definitely isnt taking Murray for several reasons, that’s just media driven hype as Josh Rosen is their guy who they are high on. Rich Eisen reported yesterday for instance high level execs inside the Cardinals organization and “sources” inside Josh Rosen’s camp both told him pay no mind to the Kyler Murray to AZ talk as it’s only that talk & not happening. AZ is just trying to drive up as much interest/hype in the #1 overall pick as they can trying to trade out of #1. Given Murray measured over 5″10/207 (though I dont see him being a true 207) you can take it to the bank some team will trade up for him giving AZ a nice package of draft picks.

  4. Finally, he’s tall enough, big enough and handy. All you want in a franchise QB – so I guess he will go no 1 to………the Cardinals.

  5. whynotjustadmitit says:
    February 28, 2019 at 9:50 am
    I absolutely love when people eat crow. Too much hate for no reason for this guy, especially in this community. Nom nom nom
    +++++++++++++
    I don’t like him due to being too big time to show up for media day and making demands from the A’s. Kid needs to be “nom nom nom” on some humble pie.

  6. I know he is not throwing, but I hope he runs his 40 at the Combine.

    He is fast and if he runs a 4.3 then even more people will be jumping on his bandwagon. I want Haskins and Lock going in the Top 10 as well.

    I highly doubt Arizona takes Murray #1. He will not though get by Gruden at #4. He can talk about Carr as his “franchise QB” all he wants. There is zero chance he would not take Murray if he is still there at #4. Mayock is dumb enough as well.

  7. “still don’t believe it. having been someone who has stood right next to him, he is my height, which is just over 5’9”
    ___________________

    Why believe the combine numbers when you can take some nameless guy’s word for it who stood next to him somewhere at some unknown date and time?

  8. It’s weird to live in a time where 5’10”, 207# is now considered big enough to be an NFL QB, and to justify using a top 5 pick on him.

  9. whynotjustadmitit says:
    February 28, 2019 at 9:50 am
    I absolutely love when people eat crow. Too much hate for no reason for this guy, especially in this community. Nom nom nom.
    ===========================================

    Can only speak for myself…but I haven’t seen any ‘hate’ for the guy. Tad dramatic.

  10. Russell Wilson has a great football mind. His feel for the game and the presence of mind for situational football is what really makes him great.

    Those are things that you really can’t quantify to compare Kyler Murray to him.

  11. He also weighed in at 207 pounds, which was again bigger than many thought he would be.

    ——————-

    I’ll him the height but weight is manipulated too easily.

  12. Given that the real estate market is a bit slow in Arizona these days, Josh may want to get a head start by putting his house on the market today.

  13. They need to weigh him tomorrow to see if he’s still over 200 or was he shotgunning water like it’s a drought.

  14. Seems the college fanboys have forgotten that College stats mean nothing in the NFL. I have nothing against Murray, but until he proves himself y’all need to stop anointing him king. Look how it turned out for Manziel and how many others?

  15. Only one QB under 6′ has been taken in the first round since the AFL-NFL merger.

    Johnny Manziel. That’s not me saying Murray = Manziel, just saying that it’ll be interesting to see where Murray goes. Wilson is one of the shortest starting QB’s and Murray is a half inch shorter.

  16. Ya’ll on here bantering back and forth on how important size is for a QB to make it in the NFL. It don’t mean squat!

    Jamarcus Russell was 6’5″, 265, hand 9 7/8 and he could throw the ball halfway down the field on his knees. Yet any time an opposing player breathed heavy on him he went down. And we can all agree that he was probably the biggest bust in NFL history (I give Ryan Leaf more credit because he wasn’t hooked on “Purple Drank”)

    Height and weight aren’t everything, folks!

  17. Great news for Jag fans. By cementing himself as a top five pick that will help the Jags either a)getting him directly (which I am concerned as he may pull an Always or Eli on us, or b) give the Giants more options and push Haskins down to us at seven. THIS IA WHY YOY TANK GAMES GUYS. WHY THE HELL DID YOU BEAR THE DOLPHINS (Sorry for the cps, but just pisses the Jags had to go win a meaningless late season game and push us from five to seven)

  18. ndallasruss says:
    February 28, 2019 at 10:22 am
    It’s weird to live in a time where 5’10”, 207# is now considered big enough to be an NFL QB, and to justify using a top 5 pick on him.

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    It’s weird but I think that is just the evolution of the game. I waiting to stop hearing about pocket passer. Not that it is gone but it still reminds me of the scouting scene from Moneyball. Yesterday is yesterday. We no longer play in yesterday.

    But to your point? Top 5? No and for me has nothing to do with the height thing. I just don’t want to wager my future on a guy who played for one year. If the Cardinals don’t I don’t know if he goes top 10.

  19. One of the biggest underlying factors in the success of a QB in the NFL is college games started. Wilson was 4 year starter. Murray 1 year. Murray is going to be a bust.

  20. “ravensbob says:
    February 28, 2019 at 11:01 am
    I could see Rosen going to Steelers. Ben is about done”

    You don’t think the Ravens are interested?
    They could use a good QB to go with their new RB.

  21. That settles it. He can play as we all know it can be a game of inches. However, Elway is not buying it. Back in the day, being 6 5 is all that matters and he has his own recent draft picks to prove that he is right

  22. Did they measure to the top of his hair? Guarantee if he shaved his head, he would measure at 5’7 or less

  23. jman967 says:
    February 28, 2019 at 10:30 am
    ” which is not a huge hand by any stretch of the imagination but is big enough.”
    That’s what they all say to make you feel better.
    ****************************************************************

    Kyler Murray — 9.5 inches
    Dalton — 9.5 inches
    Matt Ryan — 9.5 inches
    Brady — 9.375 inches
    Rodgers — 9.375 inches
    Winston — 9.375 inches
    Darnold — 9.375 inches
    Mahomes — 9.25 inches
    Mayfield — 9.25 inches
    Goff — 9 inches

    That’ll do.

  24. mikewhorio says:
    February 28, 2019 at 11:10 am
    Unless he grew since that photo of him standing between Haskins and Tua, there is no way he’s 5’9″, let alone 5’10”.
    ***********************************************************

    solo681 says:
    February 28, 2019 at 11:12 am
    5’10” – Sure he is….HAHAHAHAHAHAH

    ***********************************************************

    The NFL combine measurements are pretty much considered the most accurate in all of pro sports. I’m pretty sure Murray didn’t fool the guys who do this every year in front of a full room of NFL people.

    For example…. from the ESPN article about reported heights in sports:
    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/23913544/the-body-issue-getting-athlete-real-measurements-rarely-easy

    “Elite athletes, and football players in particular, have turned manipulating their anthropometrics into an art form. Behind the stage at the Senior Bowl, empty gallon jugs of water are everywhere, guzzled by players trying to inflate their weight and perhaps their draft status. Several players are also doing last-second neck and back exercises because, according to Senior Bowl lore, that’s how Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson managed to taffy-stretch himself above 5-10 at this event in 2012. Boni and his fellow scouts are pretty sure they’ve seen it all: weights “hidden” in spandex shorts; orthotics in socks; even artificially enhanced man buns. And despite all his instructions and warnings, the first two players step onstage wearing flip-flops. “Come on, guys,” Boni says with a sigh. Later he adds, “Flip-flops … that was a new one, even for me.”

  25. “phunnypharm22 says:
    February 28, 2019 at 1:02 pm
    jman967 says:
    February 28, 2019 at 10:30 am
    ” which is not a huge hand by any stretch of the imagination but is big enough.”
    That’s what they all say to make you feel better.
    ****************************************************************

    Kyler Murray — 9.5 inches
    Dalton — 9.5 inches
    Matt Ryan — 9.5 inches
    Brady — 9.375 inches
    Rodgers — 9.375 inches
    Winston — 9.375 inches
    Darnold — 9.375 inches
    Mahomes — 9.25 inches
    Mayfield — 9.25 inches
    Goff — 9 inches

    That’ll do.”

    You missed the double entendre there kid.
    And to think, all that research because you’re slow.

  26. phunnypharm22 says:
    February 28, 2019 at 1:17 pm

    The NFL combine measurements are pretty much considered the most accurate in all of pro sports.

    ————————

    That’s probably why John Dorsey measured Baker Mayfield’s hand size at 9 and 6/8 when he got to Cleveland. While the combine measured Mayfield at 9 and 1/4.

  27. Genius marketing. If he had been listed at 5’11” the story would be how his stock was plummeting. Now the media is reporting it like he’s some kind of giant!

  28. granadafan says:
    February 28, 2019 at 10:59 am
    They need to weigh him tomorrow to see if he’s still over 200 or was he shotgunning water like it’s a drought.
    *****************************************************************

    I guess if he has a diluted sample for the drug test, you might be on to something.
    Of course, a gallon of water is tough to drink and keep in the body for long. And a gallon of water weighs all of 8 pounds… so he is still going to be close to the same weight.

    Murray weighed more than Russell Wilson did at the combine, and I would guess they both put on a little weight leading up to the combine since they had the same questions about their size.

    I find it interesting that very little is being discussed that Murray may actually be fast (long speed) and quicker (short area) than Russell Wilson. That is why there is so much intrigue with him.

  29. Now that Murray has put the height issue behind him, it’ll be interesting to see which team lands him. I think he could well turn into the most exciting shorter athlete, since (for those of you old enough to remember) Spud Webb (Atlanta Hawks). Spud was only about 5’7″ 132 pounds, but he won the slam dunk contest one year.

  30. sigbouncer says:
    February 28, 2019 at 1:24 pm
    phunnypharm22 says:
    February 28, 2019 at 1:17 pm
    The NFL combine measurements are pretty much considered the most accurate in all of pro sports.
    ————————
    That’s probably why John Dorsey measured Baker Mayfield’s hand size at 9 and 6/8 when he got to Cleveland. While the combine measured Mayfield at 9 and 1/4.

    *************************************************************************

    This doesn’t prove or disprove anything…. Dorsey may … or may not be as accurate as the guys at the combine. Baker Mayfield may have been able to continue doing the stretching exercises that most of the QBs do before the draft to add a little extra during that time before he met with Cleveland. The hand measurement is from the tip of thumb to the tip of pinky, so the flexibility of the hand can alter the result.

    In addition, there is even discussion that some guys do neck and back exercises to try to add a little extra height. However, it is much less likely to add significant height by straightening the curvature of the spine…. than it is to stretch the tendons of the hand.

  31. Will lead the lead in passes batted down at the line of scrimmage for his entire 4 year NFL career. Good luck to the team that drafts this bust. I feel sorry for your fans.

  32. Murray and Haskins are the only first round draft pick worthy QB’s in this woefully sub-par QB class. Why does this seem like a repeat of the year The Hurt Locker, Ponder, etc. were over-drafted? Clearly GM’s have learned nothing of history, recent history at that.

  33. phunnypharm22 says:
    February 28, 2019 at 1:37 pm

    Baker Mayfield may have been able to continue doing the stretching exercises that most of the QBs do before the draft to add a little extra during that time before he met with Cleveland.

    —————————–

    Dosey met with Baker just two days after the combine…

  34. learysdisciples says:
    February 28, 2019 at 10:56 am
    That makes the majority of men in the US draftable.
    _______________

    Ummm, you gotta be good at football too. Last i heard NFL scouts weren’t walking around town looking for 5’10” guys that never played football.

  35. turkburger says:
    February 28, 2019 at 12:08 pm
    One of the biggest underlying factors in the success of a QB in the NFL is college games started. Wilson was 4 year starter. Murray 1 year. Murray is going to be a bust.
    ************************************************************************************

    Kyler Murray played in 3 different seasons and 29 games total (started 18) in 2015 (Texas A&M), 2017, and 2018.
    He threw 519 passes and ran 207 times (college stats count sacks).
    He also played 6A football in Texas, starting 42 games (42-0 record), won 3 state championships at the states highest level, and threw 1007 passes.

    Tom Brady played in 29 games at Michigan (started 25).
    He threw 638 times and ran 90 times (mostly sacks).
    Brady started for 2 years of high school varsity football.

    Aaron Rodgers started 25 games at Cal in 2 years.
    Akili Smith (23) and Joey Harrington (20) started almost as many games (both had 2 years as well) at Cal in the same offensive system under Jeff Tedford.

    Andy Dalton played in 50 games in 4 years at TCU. Is he great?

    There is no definitive formula that determines whether a QB will succeed or bust.

  36. sigbouncer says:
    February 28, 2019 at 1:59 pm
    phunnypharm22 says:
    February 28, 2019 at 1:37 pm
    Baker Mayfield may have been able to continue doing the stretching exercises that most of the QBs do before the draft to add a little extra during that time before he met with Cleveland.
    —————————–
    Dosey met with Baker just two days after the combine…

    ***********************************************************************

    Wrong.

    Dorsey: Well first – with Baker’s hands – I went and remeasured them again when he came in for the in-house visits – they were 9 6/8″

    The IN HOUSE visit occurred in April.

    Browns hosting Baker Mayfield tonight; Josh Allen, Sam Darnold, and Josh Rosen in for pre-draft visits this week
    Updated Apr 4, 2018; Posted Apr 2, 2018

  37. Aaron Rodgers started 25 games at Cal in 2 years.
    Akili Smith (23) and Joey Harrington (20) started almost as many games (both had 2 years as well) at Oregon** in the same offensive system under Jeff Tedford.

    Fixed… Oregon

  38. No way he is a bust. Do you realize it is time for the new guard? This guy will succeed because he good and the offense will tailored to his skills. You are the same people who thinks Lamar Jaskson sucks. This is the new NFL, get used to it. These guys will be around for years to come.

  39. ravensbob says:
    February 28, 2019 at 11:01 am
    I could see Rosen going to Steelers. Ben is about done
    ——————————————————

    Not going to happen. Arizona isnt moving Josh Rosen they want to move that draft pick trading it for a nice package of draft picks to a QB needy team. The Cardinals GM is very high on Josh Rosen he’s just playing the draft season game, he’d be committing malpractice if he didn’t which would be a huge disservice to the future of the franchise.

  40. Were his shoes on or off when they measured him?
    Did they measure him immediately after he unstrapped from one of those inverted contraptions where you hang upside down?

  41. He doesn’t look that big. I thought he would be 5’6″ and a buck fifty. That is what he looks when you see him by other people of average size. He looks tiny along side linemen. I guess it doesn’t matter if he can play. I think it would still be a gamble, given his experience and if whoever drafts him throws him to the lions.

  42. I think he will be really good, as long as he stays upright. It would be a shame if he ended up with RGIII’s career. I’d spend a top 5 pick on him for sure if I was a team in need.

  43. How many other SB winning QB’s are that small? I’m serious. I’m too lazy to google it. Not saying he won’t be a good NFL QB, but if he’s the smallest QB in the NFL, are you taking a first rounder on him?

  44. Why is there such a coordinated effort to get this kid drafted at the top of the draft? It’s bordering on the ridiculous.

    What’s the motivation by so many media? Including this site. Why is this kid so special?

    If he’s good enough, he’ll get drafted.

  45. As mentioned, by looking at the photo of Haskins, Murray and Tagovailoa together you’d think Haskins was 5’8” at best, Tua is listed at 6’1” which isn’t big.

    They should make a Stretch Murray doll…

  46. Russell Wilson is not really 5 ft. 11. I bet if Wilson stands next to Kyler Murray, people will see that Wilson is actually shorter, unless he wears platform shoes.

  47. With the transition to fast little QB’s does that mean every team will now need a faster little roaming back to chase these little guys around?

  48. I always laugh at these measurements of players…if they are short, they are always 2 inches taller, if skinny 20 pounds heavier…if too fat 20 pounds lighter…and then the biggest lie, the 40 times…Deion Sanders wasn’t even the fastest player on the Braves, Brian Jordan was…4.27 my arse

  49. The NFL is such a hive-mind creature of habit. A QB like Murray is “too short to play in the NFL” until he isn’t. How many 6’4″, 6’5″ QBs have been mediocre or complete busts? Their height had nothing to do with anything, but it was a box someone could check off a list.

    In my mind, the main thing Murray needs to learn from Wilson is to avoid taking too much punishment. That’s true of any QB, but any “mobile QB” isn’t gonna last very long in the NFL if they don’t get out of bounds when they should or if they slide too late (defenders LOVE to head hunt on those slides!).

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