Report: Raiders are shopping Derek Carr

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Well, now the offseason is getting interesting.

Master Tesfatsion of Bleacher Report reports that the Raiders were shopping quarterback Derek Carr at the Scouting Combine.

While few players are unshoppable (Patrick Mahomes, Baker Mayfield, Aaron Donald, maybe Deshaun Watson), it’s not currently believed that the Raiders have serious interest in trading Carr.

As one source with knowledge of the situation remarked in response to the report, the Raiders had better have a quarterback in place before shopping the one they have. It’s also believed that coach Jon Gruden “loves” Carr.

Carr has $20 million in compensation due this year. His salary became fully guaranteed the week after the Super Bowl. Trading him would result in a cap charge of $7.5 million for 2019, and he’d be off the books in 2020.

It’s possible that the Raiders have a wink-nod deal in place with a looming free agent, who would replace Carr. Signing a veteran would mesh much more cleanly with Gruden’s style, and it wouldn’t be a shock to see him make a run at someone like Nick Foles or Ryan Fitzpatrick, possibly with a young quarterback learning behind them.

Absent a viable alternative to Carr, however, the Raiders likely wouldn’t trade him. And the Raiders wouldn’t sign an alternative to Carr unless the Raiders knew that they could unload Carr’s $20 million from the payroll.

129 responses to “Report: Raiders are shopping Derek Carr

  1. Duh, anyone with a brain knew this was going to happen. It’s the Gruden show in Oakland for better or worse.

  2. Carr to the Giants for their 6th overall pick and a 3rd. Giants can win now with Carr, OBJ and Barkeley. Book it

  3. I kept warning you Raider fans and you kept thumbing me down. It was painfully obvious to older fans who know Gruden, and especially since his comments about Kyler and others.

  4. So many possibilities right now. There could be a conditional deal in place for Josh Rosen (whom Mayock called the “best pure passer he has seen in years”). If the Cards are set on Murray as is being reported. There could even be a conditional deal with SF to swap the #4 for the #2. I’ve wrote before here don’t be surprised if there is interest in Dwayne Haskins Jr who could be had for certain at #2 after Murray. Former Seahawks DB Shawn Springs has been with Haskins Jr forever and there is the Gruden-Holmgren-Springs connection. So there would be no surprises with Haskins Jr here.

  5. A couple years ago I swore this team was on the verge of title contention. Key players at De Qb Wr Rb …. just needed a few pieces, Never would I have thought a fire sell getting rid of their top talent (Young Talent) on top of that JUST to start from scratch? Head scratcher. I Love Chucky! But why oh why when you were closer to finishing a rebuild tear it all apart just for the crapshoot draft. All these players were darn good and just needed better coaching. This poor team is now YEARS away from even being 8-8. Sad.

  6. He is perplexing at best. Questions about his leadership, numbers aren’t terrible and the painful part of his contract is done so moving on from him down the road isn’t too hateful (raiders will experience some pain this year but they don’t care as they are just getting ready for Vegas). I don’t see a team giving up a #1, maybe a 3rd rounder

  7. Should be easy to unload since he left money on the table.
    Looks like the Raiders are the new Browns.

  8. It makes sense. Ship Derek Carr out of town along with his bloated contract. If you can’t trade up for Calimari it’s not the end of world, ride with McCarron until next year’s draft and go all in for Tua.

  9. calizcowboyz says:
    March 2, 2019 at 6:23 pm
    A couple years ago I swore this team was on the verge of title contention. Key players at De Qb Wr Rb …. just needed a few pieces, Never would I have thought a fire sell getting rid of their top talent (Young Talent) on top of that JUST to start from scratch? Head scratcher. I Love Chucky! But why oh why when you were closer to finishing a rebuild tear it all apart just for the crapshoot draft. All these players were darn good and just needed better coaching. This poor team is now YEARS away from even being 8-8. Sad

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    That playoff team was a fraud and a mirage. They played the easiest schedule in the league that year.

  10. If they can get a top 15 pick plus im all for it. Any truthfully objective fan can see the difference in Carr, hes not the same post injury which is a shame. I understand all the lack of OL/WR talk but that doesn’t excuse his awful decision making and countless unwarranted check downs. Crazy in just two short years what can happen, I have Carr, Cooper and Mack jerseys that Ill be donating 😦

  11. whysosenestive445 says:
    March 2, 2019 at 6:13 pm
    Carr to the Giants for their 6th overall pick and a 3rd. Giants can win now with Carr, OBJ and Barkeley. Book it

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    Ever notice that 99% of posts that end with “Book it” turn out to be farfetched nonsense?

  12. The media loves to make up stuff. Especially so the Raiders can sign one of two stiffs Fitz or Foles? Gruden and Mayock both said Carr was their franchise QB.

  13. So some unknow from Bleacher report got this info and nobody else did? It’s nonsense much like all the other rumors you here this time of year.

  14. slick50kc says:
    March 2, 2019 at 6:34 pm
    calizcowboyz says:
    March 2, 2019 at 6:23 pm
    A couple years ago I swore this team was on the verge of title contention. Key players at De Qb Wr Rb …. just needed a few pieces, Never would I have thought a fire sell getting rid of their top talent (Young Talent) on top of that JUST to start from scratch? Head scratcher. I Love Chucky! But why oh why when you were closer to finishing a rebuild tear it all apart just for the crapshoot draft. All these players were darn good and just needed better coaching. This poor team is now YEARS away from even being 8-8. Sad
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    That playoff team was a fraud and a mirage. They played the easiest schedule in the league that year.

    Yep. They won every close high scoring game they played in which was unsustainable. Their defense was garbage that season like always; difference was the offense was scoring a lot of points to overcome it. Then they essentially fire Musgrave, replace him with a young guy who never called plays before and reverted to a bad team the following season. Truth is Reggie missed on a high volume of his picks which put this team in the position they are now.

  15. im not buying it, its more like some team probably asked them what they want for carr they told them some crazy price and now all of the sudden Gruden is shopping Carr!!!

  16. @calizcowboyz
    That playoff team was a fraud and a mirage. They played the easiest schedule in the league that year.

    You are completely just making things up out of boredom, or your using some bootleg search engine you found on the dark web. Say what you will, but easiest sced? Cmon man…

  17. How many of you believe every rumor coming out of Indy is true? How many of you believe everything Jon Gruden says? If everyone says yes to both questions, I’m going into the bridge selling business tomorrow.

  18. realityonetwo says:
    March 2, 2019 at 6:47 pm
    whysosenestive445 says:
    March 2, 2019 at 6:13 pm
    Carr to the Giants for their 6th overall pick and a 3rd. Giants can win now with Carr, OBJ and Barkeley. Book it
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    Ever notice that 99% of posts that end with “Book it” turn out to be farfetched nonsense?
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    Exactly! Same for the posts that end in “confirmed” LMAO

  19. Carr’s and above average QB, and certainly starting caliber. I’m sure he wants to stay out west, he’s from Fresno State.

    Bold prediction: Cardinals trade the #1 pick and their 3rd rounder to the Raiders for Carr, #4, and #27. Raiders draft Murray and the Cards draft Jonah Williams (or after this weekend, Metcalf) at #4.And the Raiders are trying to create some sizzle before moving to Vegas. The Cards are in the playoffs for the next three years. Murray is a bust and the Raiders are picking in the top five for the next three years.

    Hey, it’s draft time, we can have some fun speculating.

  20. Ryan Fitzpatrick would be an insane choice. The guy never led his team to the playoffs, and he is a career backup and is aging. Foles the SB MVP would make more sense. Kyler Murray may also be another option. Since his injury, Carr has not been a winning quarterback. Gruden has seen enough of Carr after just one season. Not sure why anyone would trade for Carr. Not even John Elway would do it.

  21. He was on Tampa for 8 years or so. On all that tone how many guys started as QB?,
    1, 3, 47?

    Gruden is terrible at developing a QB. I think the leadership quality of a good QB grates at him.

  22. A surprise only to the folks in the “Carr’s our franchise QB” article that was all of yesterday. Carr’s bad. Gruden’s bad. 6-10.

  23. Gruden’s offense isn’t thought of as a predominately shotgun offense, but in 2018, on 1st down 50%, 2nd down 60% & 3rd down 80% of the snaps were from the shotgun formation. Although on first down, in the 1st & 3rd quarter snaps were under center 60% of the time. 2nd down, 1st qtr 50% all other quarters 60% out of shotgun. The shotgun % appear to a factor of the situational football and not scheme. So that’s why a kyler Murray or nick files doesn’t make sense. But a Haskins does and nobody can deny the struggles Carr had last year with chucky as his coach. If u think u can get equal play from a rookie contract, you open up that $20M cap space & get more draft capital.

  24. Unforchantly the minute we said we were getting Gruden back as a coach I knew DC was expendable unforchantly Gruden expects everyone to bow down to him but DC won’t because he is a strong minded guy

  25. If someone wants to overpay me for my house, I’m not looking to move but I’m not going to avoid the conversation either. Players are team assets, not family.

  26. Dumb. Carr is a great QB when surrounded with competent talent. 3rd in MVP vote in 2016. Rookie OC in 2017 and two rookie OTs in 2018 held him back.
    I wouldn’t consider trading him for less than three 1st-round picks. Even then I wouldn’t. Without a good QB you’re screwed.

  27. Without googling it – Brad Johnson, Rob Johnson, Brian Griese, Tim Rattay, Chris Simms, Bruce Gradkowski, and Jeff Garcia. I am probably missing one or two in there.

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    tavisteelersfan says:
    March 2, 2019 at 7:26 pm
    He was on Tampa for 8 years or so. On all that tone how many guys started as QB?,
    1, 3, 47?

    Gruden is terrible at developing a QB. I think the leadership quality of a good QB grates at him.

  28. Why would Deshaun Watson be unavailable? Really did you just include him in a list with the best offensive and best defensive player in the NFL?

  29. See what happens when you have the WORST starting OT tandem in pro football?
    If anything, the Raiders should consider moving on from Kolton Miller and Brandon Parker. They were AWFUL last year. Miller graded out as the second WORST LT in PFF history for QB harassment. Parker was even worse on the right side.

  30. Two months ago everyone was saying how bad the 2019 QB class is and now the same people are talking about half the league wanting to trade up to get one of those QBs. The hype machine is whacked.

  31. After that heated disagreement on the sideline between Carr and Gruden in November during the Cardinals game, I saw this coming.

  32. Foles everyone talks like he is the greatest
    He is a system QB who got lucky once
    With out the system he is useless
    I would take Carr any day of the week

  33. Also, continuing to spew this nonsense that Gruden hates young players and goes after vets is so played out.

    He played 13 rookies last year and will continue to develop them.

    But, I suppose when the myth replaces truth, print the myth.

  34. Gruden wants the team to be HIS TEAM,…. not someone elses. They still say the SB win in TB was Dungy’s team,… not Grudens. That’s in his head. He’s stripping it down from what Reggie built.
    I’ll do it My Way !!

  35. I said Carr was even more of a check down QB than early Alex Smith and Raiders fans got angry in his defense. He was getting praise of a top level QB but all the games I watched was a guy who couldn’t throw the ball accurately past 10 yards.

    With that salary, this should be like that Brock Osweiler trade.

  36. realityonetwo says:
    March 2, 2019 at 6:47 pm
    whysosenestive445 says:
    March 2, 2019 at 6:13 pm
    Carr to the Giants for their 6th overall pick and a 3rd. Giants can win now with Carr, OBJ and Barkeley. Book it

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    Ever notice that 99% of posts that end with “Book it” turn out to be farfetched nonsense?

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    Too funny, I was gonna say nearly the exact same thing.

  37. I thought Derek Carr was a lock coming out of college. Every year I thought Carr will put it together this year. Every year I was disappointed. Gruden had a tremendous faith in Carr when he came into the NFL. Last year, once again, I thought with Gruden at the helm. Carr would put it together and finally have a break out year. That didn’t happen either. If anything he looked worse than ever. In my opinion, it time to move on from Derek Carr.

  38. Ok forget about Carr for a moment, sure hes “shoppable” but did Florio just say Deshaun Watson was unshoppable. Mentioned with the likes of Mahomes and Donald.

    What did I miss? When did Deshaun Watson become elite?

  39. It was a hard fail to hire Gruden in the first place. Washed up, failed at his last stop, way, way over-rated. And he’s only proven that to be true with his ditching of Mack. He won one year with Dungy’s players and foundation.
    Carr is a legitimate QB who has played well when he’s had an O-line and some receivers. Oh and when he had a RB besides some washed up retiree.
    If they ditch Carr it will prove the ignorance and complete failure of the Gruden gamble. When they have to admit that, the owner should buy a decent wig.

  40. This is nuts. Carr isn’t anywhere near the top of the list of problems with the Raiders. Those of you who don’t like Carr might be about to find out how truly difficult it is to find even average QB play these days. Unless this is all for publicity before the big Vegas move, which is certainly a possibility.

  41. At one time chuckie was the hot young offensive mind the same way Mcvay was and then the tuck rule happend he went to Tampa and led that team to were tony dungy could not. Him and mcvay are the same guy except that he won his Super Bowl

  42. even without weapons.. it “seemed” like Carr started to “get” Gruden’s system toward the end of last season. If true, give him weapons and let’s go.

    Gruden’s system is hard. Every QB who has been in it agrees. So, what, we want to hand it over to a rookie?

  43. I don’t think Carr is a great QB, more in the Cousins/Dalton mold but who are you going to replace him with? Unless they’ve fallen in love with someone in the draft and are trading up to get him this doesn’t make sense to me.

  44. Lots of talk, but the reality is that there are only two QBs in the history of the NFL to start the first 5 years of their career with 300+ completions and over 3,000 yards passing in every season. Carr completed 69% of his passes last year and stood in that collapsing pocket and took 50 sacks with that crappy OL.

  45. No way that I want big dick Nick in there for basically the same price. Give Carr some weapons and the guy will do fine.

  46. If you look at Gruden Camp from 2014, Jon Gruden was a big fan of Teddy Bridgewater and specifically praised Teddy’s intelligence and the style of offense he ran at Louisville. Teddy is cut out to be a West Coast quarterback for Gruden and has impeccable character and could be had for a relative good price. Look for the Raiders to sign Teddy!

  47. If I was, say, Nick Foles, it would take huge guaranteed money to go play for the Raiders. Can’t trust Gruden; wouldn’t buy a used car from that guy much less depend on his word in regards to my career window. $40 million guaranteed basically upfront on $100 million five-year deal or some such and then Raiders could trust me instead of other way around.

  48. Not only is Deshaun Watson shoppable but they would probably trade him straight up for Derek Carr.

  49. As a life-long Eagles fan, I’d like to see him in Oakland. Use that swath of picks this year to build immediate help at crucial spots and build around Nick. Gruden is tied into the Reid coaching tree and Foles played for 2 of them already so Gruden probably has a bigger leg up on him. Foles would do well there and Id watch Raiders games.

  50. Carr had the longest streak-10 games or so- without a pick in the league last year. He was very good in 2016, broke his leg and hasn’t been the same since. He’s more Jim Everett than Dan Marino now.
    Talk of a first rounder for him is just nonsense.
    He’s a good person, I hope he get it back.

  51. I am beginning to wonder if Gruden isnt Jeff Fisher 2.0…uses excuses like franchise moving and this and that and is more politician than coach..because he coaches for a moron like Fisher did he will hang on for 7 or 8 years of mediocre results…he isnt a good coach, like Fisher

  52. Carr is not a bad player but his salary is simply too high.

    Hopefully Raiders can get good assets for him.

  53. The problem isn’t trading him; they will stink next year, and moving him and drafting a young QB is probably a reasonable move. The problem is there won’t be many takers. Redskins, dolphins, and jags? There isn’t a big market for average QBs getting paid 20 million, especially when you can get foles for the same money without having to give up a pick.

  54. The Raiders would be a lot better off with Derek Carr as QB and with a HC other than Gruden.

    But since (due to Son-of-Al’s whims) the Raiders are stuck with Gruden, Carr will be much better off going to another team.

    I said from the very beginning that Gruden was a misfit for Carr in terms of his dink-and-dunk (“West Coast Offense”) scheme which doesn’t utilize Carr’s arm strength. Also Gruden’s aggressive in-you-face nonsense is a misfit for Carr’s laid-back personality.

    Carr is a system QB who does as well or as poorly as his coaching and surrounding cast. Under Bill Musgrave and a good o-line in 2015/2016 he excelled while he did poorly under Todd Downing and then Gruden. If Carr goes to a team with competent offensive coaching, a decent o-line and some good receiving weapons then he’ll likely recapture his 2015/2016 form.

  55. I think Derek Carr is a good quarterback ,but he let Gruden get into his head. Maybe a new team would do him good. I wouldn’t be upset if the Patriots went after him.

  56. Could be worse….could be stuck with Jimmy G!!
    Carr earned what he got…a couple minor details like a broken leg and cracked back slowed things down.

  57. The Raiders with former GOAT GM Reggie McKenzie have drafted very high every single year. Carrwreck has never been to a playoff game, has never won a division title, has a sub .500 career winning record and cries on national TV. End of story.

  58. Of course John Gruden is saying “He Loves” Derek Carr if he were to say anything other than that it would drop Carr’s trade value depreciating what Oakland could get in return for Carr’s services.

    I personally think Oakland is thinking of moving up to #1 overall for a QB though given how badly they need a truly elite Edge rushing prospect I wouldnt be shocked to see them move up to lock down the drafts best pass rusher in Ohio States Nick Bosa either. Gruden has said publically they are thinking of trading down so it wouldnt shock me if they did. Gruden is well aware of how the modern day NFL is changing & given the direction the league is heading with how much QB”s are protected now a days I would not be shocked to see the Raiders dump Derek Carr and move up in the draft to draft OKL QB Kyler Murray who would dramatically improve Gruden’s offense over night.

    If Oakland does trade up from 4th to #1 overall giving Arizona the 24th overall pick in RD1 in exchange I think Arizona then takes DT Quinnen Williams. Williams has elite athleticism/mobility that is not natural for a man of his size at 6″3/305pds and is extremely explosive off the ball w/ an arsenal of pass rush moves & is dominant versus the run to. In Arizona’s hybrid 3-4 defense he could play both 5 tech like Campbell used to playing next to Chandler Jones & also could dominate as a 3tech next to Robert Nkimdiche giving AZ a tremendous inside pass rush. The closer we get to the draft the more and more I like Williams as this guy is a bowling ball in the middle and could average 8-10 sacks a season as an interior rusher. With the 24th overall pick Arizona could then grab a young RT like Jawaan Taylor or Andre Dillard whichever is available & at the very top of RD2 at 33rd overall 6″1/225pd WR AJ Brown possessing elite hands, body control and is as polished a route runner as you’ll find in college possessing the ability to play both inside and outside. AJ Brown would pair up nicely with AZ’s young stud WR Christian Kirk who in YR 2 in this offense should really take off catching 80-85 receptions in year 2.
    A trade like that would really benefit both teams as OAK would significantly upgrade the most important position on the field landing not just the best QB in the draft but possibly a generational talent in OKL QB Kyler Murray. Arizona would get to trade out of #1 & add an extra premium pick which Keim is looking to do while still landing a rare defensive talent who should make several Pro Bowls in DT Quinnen Williams & Arizona could significantly improve their OL with the 24th overall pick taking a RT. At the very top of RD2 Arizona uses their own pick to upgrade their WR room taking AJ Brown. That would be quite the haul inside the first 33 picks.

  59. Gruden falls in and out of love with quarterbacks the way Elizabeth Taylor fell in and out of love with her many husbands. If Gruden had the next Brett Farve he would probably bench him in favor of someone else. If I was Carr I would ask (hope for) a trade to a quarterback needy team.

  60. mlhigh says:
    March 3, 2019 at 12:28 pm

    The Raiders with former GOAT GM Reggie McKenzie have drafted very high every single year. Carrwreck has never been to a playoff game, has never won a division title, has a sub .500 career winning record and cries on national TV. End of story.

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    And yet Carr is far better than any of the hot garbage that Elway has had starting at QB since Peyton Manning retired. If Carr does wind up being traded and he goes to a team with competent coaching and a decent o-line then there’s a much better chance that his new team will go to the playoffs than the Broncos with their new savior Joe Flacco.

  61. I wouldn’t touch Carr period. Overrated, garbage mistakes. Without a super strong O line in front of him you saw what he was the past two seasons. Based on his salary he isn’t worth more than a mid to late round pick at best. Raiders better hope Washington and/or Miami are so desperate that they will give up more.

  62. Please Dump Carr and go with the discount and inexperience of Bridgewater. Build your foundation drafting Murray or Haskins. STOP THE RUN ADJUSTMENTS WOULDN’T HURT. Carr isn’t leading this franchise anywhere, allow him to start fresh in another city.

  63. Why acquire a veteran when you already have a veteran?

    Stupid to trade Carr.

    Block for him, get him some receivers that can actually catch the football and assemble a defense that is competent.

  64. Carr is a really good QB, and maybe Gruden would be making a mistake. If I were a team looking for a veteran who already went through all the growing pains but was still young enough to have ten more good years left, I’d trade 2 first round picks for Carr. You never know what you’re getting in the draft. Carr’s a proven commodity.

  65. Jerry, are ya reading this? ……Good opportunity to upgrade the current Quarterback position !

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