Mike Glennon move a reminder of Cardinals’ ugly 2018 offseason

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Why were the Cardinals the worst team in the NFL last year? The biggest reason is that they swung and missed on big moves at the quarterback position.

The Cardinals released one of their quarterbacks, Mike Glennon, yesterday. And that puts into focus just how badly the Cardinals did at assessing quarterbacks last year.

Arizona signed Glennon to a two-year contract last year, and now he’s gone after one year in which he didn’t start a single game. Arizona also signed Sam Bradford to an even bigger contract, and he was cut during the season after a disastrous performance early in the year. Between the two of them, Glennon and Bradford made about $20 million from the Cardinals.

And then the Cardinals traded their first-round pick, third-round pick and fifth-round pick to move up in the draft and select Josh Rosen. That worked out so well that the Cardinals are now widely expected to move on from Rosen after one year and select Kyler Murray with the first overall pick in this year’s draft.

Whether Cardinals General Manager Steve Keim sticks with Rosen or drafts Murray this offseason, he better get it right. Another bad move at the quarterback position this offseason, and he probably won’t be the one making the decisions in Arizona next offseason.

63 responses to “Mike Glennon move a reminder of Cardinals’ ugly 2018 offseason

  1. Another bad move at the quarterback position this offseason, and he probably won’t be the one making the decisions in Arizona next offseason.
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    LOL! Yeah right. This guy had an extreme DUI and still kept his job. Needless to say why…..

  2. Boy oh boy how the powerful fall. Keim looked like a genius after getting the GM gig and then hiring BA. Now he’s making both bad business and personal decisions. The Wilks hire should’ve never happened and was more of a disservice to the mans career trajectory than anything. They make a massive trade to get Rosen who will still have a great career but would probably be better suited out of that organization. Now they hire Kingsbury which is a hire I agreed with but what will they do now? It’s evident Keim no longer is the golden boy and if the organization wants a new direction it should start w/replacing him.

  3. fanfrommontreal says:
    March 9, 2019 at 8:34 am

    The new Browns?

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    No way, the Lions are the Browns of the NFC. They have only one playoff win in sixty two years. Also Mike Glennon is better than Stafford.

  4. fanfrommontreal says:
    March 9, 2019 at 8:34 am
    The new Browns?
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    The New Broncos ?

  5. The Cardinals are a terrible franchise. The Bidwell family has burned bridges in Chicago and St. Louis and it’s only a matter of time until they are sick of him out in the desert.

  6. I don’t blame the guy one bit, but Mike Glennon has made more money for doing less than any player in recent memory (Bears/Cardinals)

  7. Thru out the year the Cardinals (ie, Bidwells) have had a history of being loyal to the heirarchy (GMs, scouts, etc) not so much their coaches and they have lost some good coaches in the past. My guess is it was Keim who pulled the plug on the coach.
    If they pull the plug on Rosen they will not get back what they invested. I would trade the #1 pick and load up with draft picks. This team had many, many holes starting with the O-line. Not sure Rosen is the problem.

  8. fanfrommontreal says:
    March 9, 2019 at 8:34 am
    The new Browns?————-Not even close, while the Browns had success with Kozar the Cards have stunk and been mismanaged way before Bernies days…

  9. And again why does Keim have a job still factor in his off field stuff and state of this team? I’m confused I kno the jets have been a mess but at least now they have a direction and foundation. Rosen deserves better and I think he blows

  10. At least he’s making QB moves and cutting his losses early. Miami stuck with Tannehill for 7 years. If they would have cut their losses early maybe Miami would have had a real QB for 6 of those years. Now we have no QBs. So this Dolphin fan says no shame in striking out. Get up to the plate and the first fast ball you see try and knock it out of the park.

  11. The football equation: New Coach=New Quarterback. Of course Rosen will be gone. It’s actually better for him. The management of the Cardinals have no idea how to run a football operation.

  12. They’ve been swinging and missing at the position for quite a while now.

    Would be interesting to see a comparison of the cardinals and browns qb changes over the last decade

  13. I think that Murray would be an upgrade over Rosen but I also think that he’s not the best player in the draft. It might be wise to wait until next draft for a new quarterback. As a fan of a rival division team, the thing I least want Arizona to do is load up on these elite defensive players. That will get them to having one dominant unit of the team. Take some developmental linemen in the later rounds and just slog through one more down year on offense. Then next draft when there are more elite offensive prospects, finish the rebuild with a top 5 lineman or wr and vise versa with your 2nd/3rd rounders. But this also involves giving Kingsbury at least a two year window which I’m skeptical about for two reasons: 1) They just pulled the plug on Wilks after one year. 2) Another losing season might get Keim fired and a new GM might also want to bring in a coach he likes better than Kingsbury. Which puts pressure on Arizona to win now…which also necessitates drafting an offensive player like Murray higher than he should go and missing out on a potential pro bowl caliber defender. So, as a fan of another division rival, I’d love to see you guys take Murray. But if you want to climb back into relevancy Arizona…take Bosa or Williams.

  14. concretechuckles says:
    March 9, 2019 at 8:50 am
    The Cardinals are a terrible franchise. The Bidwell family has burned bridges in Chicago and St. Louis and it’s only a matter of time until they are sick of him out in the desert.————————–Don’t forget the almost Baltimore Cardinals…

  15. LOL! Yeah right. This guy had an extreme DUI and still kept his job. Needless to say why…..
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    Well, at least he did his rule breaking off the job, as opposed to one of his peers who has had his star receiver suspended for cheating, his qb suspended for cheating, lost draft pick for cheating, organization fined big time for cheating, hired a known cheater for OC, all in the “performance” of his job

  16. And Steve Wilks was fired for not being able to win with Bradford, Glennon and a rookie as his QBs? How could any coach be expected to win games with two terrible vets and a rookie? He should have at least gotten another year

  17. Looks like they should see if they can bring kurt Warner hof bust to play qb….he’d probably have a better chance at making the playoffs than whoever plays qb this year.

  18. Keim has is right–it’s all about the QB. Throwing a bunch of stuff at the wall and see what happens is not a bad strategy. Afterall how many teams have a superbowl worthy QB? It’s just not easy to get THE guy. And if you don’t have THE guy then you are a mediocre team.

  19. The new Browns?

    I hope so. I’m happy to see another team go through the misery us Browns fans have experienced year after year, especially given the fact Rosen made it clear he didn’t want to go to Cleveland. We are much better off with Mayfield at the helm.

  20. That is some really bad player evaluation. When the Bears forked over for Glennon, a Chicago friend’s reaction was, wtf, have they seen this guy’s film!?
    Then a double down with Bradford?
    It was mind boggling, no 20-20 hindsight required.

  21. Carson Palmer would have appreciated a tight end.

    Rob Housler/John Carson/Darren Fells/Jermaine Gresham/Ricky Seals-Jones

    Palmer had Matt Schoebel/Reggie Kelly/Ben Utecht/Jermaine Gresham in Cincinnati.

    Just keep blaming it on the quarterbacks.

  22. Arizona hasn’t drafted a tight end
    since the 7th round of 2015 (Gerald Christian).

    In 2014… they drafted Notre Dame’s Troy Niklas in the 2nd round.
    That worked out great.

  23. I think after all the talk about shipping Rosen out, they almost have to do it now. They can’t let him go another year looking over his shoulder. He already knows the new coach doesn’t love him so he’s never going to feel confident it’s HIS team. Cats out of the bag st this point

  24. How does the GM still have his position, the FA picks, drafts have been dreadful costing the team millions with nothing to show for it and now on it 3rd coach in 3 years….Really???

  25. Rosen shouldn’t have been drafted that high.

    It was obvious he played a weak schedule.

    60% completions and 59td/26int in that weak Pac-12 is pathetic.

  26. “Arizona signed Glennon to a two-year contract last year, and now he’s gone after one year in which he didn’t start a single game.”
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    What a ridiculous take of the QB signing. Glennon was sign to a BACKUP QB CONTRACT that was only worth 2 yrs/$8m. That’s nothing for QB insurance. Backups like Bridgewater was at $6m/yr, McCarron $5m/yr, Henne $4/yr, Foles $9m/yr, etc.

  27. Keim should’ve been canned a long time ago. There’s a very good chance he might get fired during the season.

  28. Why were the Cardinals the worst team in the NFL last year?

    Steve Keim, Keim promoting a DC that wasn’t nearly ready to be a HC to be the HC, over-drafting a QB which lands right on Keim’s shoulders and a dozen other things and now they’re going with a college coach who is no where near ready to be a HC in the NFL and talking about over-drafting another QB in one of the poorest QB classes I’ve ever seen in my 50+yrs = wash, rinse, repeat!!!

    What do they call it when you do the same things over and over and expect a different result?

  29. Jim Plunkett. Doug Williams. Steve Young. Brett Favre. Kurt Warner. Drew Brees. That’s a partial list of QB’s who won super bowls after they were let go by their original team. These guys benefitted from a change of scenery. Sometimes it was a bad organization. Sometimes mediocre coaching. Some guys just didn’t get an opportunity to play. Or it was some combination of all of the above. But the thing I learned is you can’t just throw a QB into a no-win situation, especially a young QB, and then pull the plug on him too early. Remember how bad Jared Goff looked his rookie year? Two years later he led his team to the super bowl. Troy Aikman was 0-11 his rookie year. Peyton Manning 3-13 as a rookie. Those guys were drafted by really bad teams too. Josh Rosen is every bit as good as Goff. The only guy who kept Goff from winning the super bowl is Tom Brady, and that’s nothing to panic about. Brady will eventually retire. Oh, did I mention bad ownership?

  30. ochostinko says:
    March 9, 2019 at 9:52 am

    I hope so. I’m happy to see another team go through the misery us Browns fans have experienced year after year, especially given the fact Rosen made it clear he didn’t want to go to Cleveland.

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    Typical for a Browns fan, wish misery on some other team just because you sucked for >50yrs and all because of your owners, Modell, Learner’s. Modell said several times he ONLY cared about one thing “PUTTING ASSES IN SEATS” but yet you STILL STUCK WITH THEM even after he made it real clear he wasn’t going to put a winner on the field = so THAT’S ON YOU!!! No one makes you be a fan of any team, that’s a choice and in you Browns fans case a really terrible one! Don’t worry you could live to be 150YO and NO ONE WILL EVER BE AS BAD AS THE BROWNS WERE, NO ONE!!!!!! To top off a 1-15 season with an 0-16 season, that’ll never be topped, PERIOD.

    To be honest I don’t know how in the world the Browns have a single fan left after the last 20yrs, it’s mind-boggling to think even a single person would put up with that BS, but there’s tens of thousands of you still out there, unbelievable!!!

  31. It’s one thing to be on a ultra QB hunt……but Bradford and Glennon for 20 million? That was a sign of GM incompetence. I see nothing wrong with drafting Murray and holding onto Rosen for a year or atleast into preseason. Cards need to get the QB situation right first and foremost….from there anything can be built.

  32. homesbypatrick says:
    March 9, 2019 at 8:39 am
    They could have learned from the Bears 2017 mistake… just saying
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    By that do you mean sign Glennon to a contract and then give him no shot whatsoever to prove himself on the field?

    Glennon was a 60% passer with 30 tds and 15 ints for some of the most dreadful Tampa Bay teams in memory. Since then, he has never been given an extended shot anywhere he’s been.

  33. Couple Questions to ponder. In 7 years as GM, why hasnt Keim Drafted a starting cornerback to play opposite of Peterson? Why hasnt he drafted a outside WR to start opposite off Fitz (Kirk is a slot wr)? Why has he continued to try to build a team through free agency, and everyone knows you build through the Draft? Why is the O-Line still in shambles and he played offensive line himself? Why did he just spend roughly 28 million on Bradford and Glennon, for them to only start 3 games COMBINED? Why did he give up a 1st, 3rd and 5th rd Draft pick to move up 5 slots to take Rosen. Who may now be traded? If first rounders (and often 2nd rounders too) are supposed to be your future pro bowlers, why hasnt Keim had a successful 1st round pick? On top of this….he has TWO DUI’s!!

    If he wasn’t friends with Michael Bidwill for 20 years, he would be in another profession. He has been bad at his job and bad off the field as well.

  34. I would like to see the Patriots trade their #1 pick for Rosen and a fifth round pick. Give Kiem a lifeline.
    That is from my Patriots point of view.(fan since 73)
    As a Cardinal season ticket holder, I want to see the number one pick trader. There are now three players who could go # 1 and a lot of teams that would like to get one of them.
    The Cardinals offensive line has been the worst in the league for a long time.
    No quarterback can compete without an Online.
    People always say that the way to beat Brady is to put pressure on him, hit him and make him uncomfortable.
    I always laugh when I hear this, the secret plan to beat Brady!
    That is the way to beat any quarterback in the NFL, is to put heat on the QB, just like the Patriots did this year in one of the greatest performances in NFL Super Bowl history. Dante Hightower should have been the MVP)
    The Cardinals need help everywhere, O line, receivers, cornerback, dline etc.
    They have an opportunity to make a trade and get in a position to plug some holes Do it.
    If they pick the QB it will be for financial reasons in my opinion. Excite the fan base.
    Winning excites the fan base.I could see the Cardinals drafting Murray and in 2 years he will be playing for the Oakland A’s.

  35. Here’s a short list of bad moves Keim has made. Busted for DUI, Hired then fired Wilks after one season, gave Bradford 20M then cut him. Let’s Calais Campbell walk,gets nothing in return and he proceeds to lead the league in sacks. Last 3 years 1st round picks ride the pine. Signed Honey Badger to a ridiculous back loaded contract and he walks with nothing in return. Signed Pugh and Andre Smith to big deals and they both stink and got hurt as their history predicted. Theres a lot more! How he still has his job is beyond me!! How you trust him to make the 1st pick in the draft is also beyond me, hes the reason why the cardinal’s are back to the same ole cardinals. What’s next ? They gonna pull Bill Bidwill from retirement and have him run the team?

  36. Agree that Keim may be the worst GM since Millen. Go back 45 years in this franchise’s history and review the futility. The Bidwell’s haven’t exactly lit it up as owners either.

  37. The funny thing is Glennon accomplished everything they needed and asked from him. Just be there if needed, dont hurt anything while he just sits there.

  38. omeimontis says:
    March 9, 2019 at 2:10 pm
    Glennon and Bradford are worse than Kap. Kap was blackballed so they took chances on Bradford and Glennon.

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    Any Kaep lover should be thanking their lucky stars Kaep did not go into that situation. No QB could have succeeded there. If it had been Kaep your myth would have been busted and your cause would have been over.

  39. s1dew1nder1 says:
    March 9, 2019 at 6:40 pm
    Agree that Keim may be the worst GM since Millen. Go back 45 years in this franchise’s history and review the futility. The Bidwell’s haven’t exactly lit it up as owners either.

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    Actually he is the worst NFL owner since Kiam (Victor). Kind of funny the irony.

  40. Kiem has done a lot more good than bad. He was fined for the DUI and goes to AA passed down by Court/NFL. Cards would have a few SB appearances if not for injuries. Look it up BEFORE you say I’m wrong. Arians was let go due to his health. Kinda like the Movie Draft day. VERY SIMILAR SITUATIONS. Arians improved enough physically to Coach this year. Cards last year was Coaching! Wilkes is gone for it. By the Logic people are using about off field issues them Ersay, Kraft plus MANY others should be gone. As far as on field moves than Elway, Carroll among others need to be gone as well. Like Eagles GM should be gone for using Wentz opening the season & not Foles who JUST won a SB. Or at least trade one of them instead of letting one just walk.
    Wilkes played a large part of players signing and getting the players HE wanted. That’s how Kiem works. 2 of six seasons were bad. The other 4 were awesome (again except for injuries). People need to look at the BIG picture. If this next season sucks Then they need to seriously think about firing Kiem. As far as people bashing on Cards Ownership. Michael Bidwill has done a solid job. His Dad played it all safe and looked at making Money over wins. Michael doesn’t think like that.

  41. Draft Murray.
    Keep Rosen.
    Have them compete against each other.
    At the end of training camp, the best one us your starter and the other one is your backup.
    This works as both QBs will have Cap friendly contracts AND you never know if the injury bug will bite the starter.

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