Will Kyler Murray work out at his Pro Day workout?

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Worlds are colliding on Wednesday, as both the new league year begins and the league’s next big thing has his Pro Day workout on the same day.

So when Oklahoma quarterback Kyler Murray works out for scouts and coaches on Wednesday, what will he do?

It’s still not entirely clear. Peter King of Football Morning in America suggested that Murray possibly will only throw on Wednesday, playing a 60-to-100 rep game of pitch and catch with a handful of his former Sooners teammates.

Some reports have suggested that Murray will do everything at the workout, from stepping on a scale to standing for a measurement to running 40 yards in a straight line to everything else quarterbacks do at the Scouting Combine. But why should he do it all? Really, why should he do any of it?

Murray’s floor is No. 4, maybe No. 6. If one of the teams in the top half-dozen of the draft don’t want him, they’ll be trading the pick to someone who does. Nothing he does on Wednesday will make that better, and if he pops a hamstring or generates a slower-than-expected time in the 40, Wednesday could make that worse.

One of these days, a top prospect won’t play any of these “job applicant” games, opting instead to say to the league at large, “You have my film from college. Draft me, or wait for one of your competitors to.” While that would put a bee in the bonnet of the old-school football types and how-dare-you-not-entertain-us media members who’ll huff and puff, nobody will be blowing the house down of a truly elite player. Instead, they’ll still be sprinting to the podium to put in a draft card bearing his name.

So if you don’t want to run, Kyler, don’t do it. And if you don’t want to do the stop-and-start drills, don’t. And if you don’t want to throw or do anything else on Wednesday, don’t. And if you don’t want to engage in any private workouts over the next month and a half, don’t.

The hay is firmly in the barn and anything and everything he does from a physical standpoint from now until the draft is the equivalent of flipping lit matches into the stack, at the urging of the people who eventually will be buying the hay.

43 responses to “Will Kyler Murray work out at his Pro Day workout?

  1. I agree with you. But I also think the Combine and Pro Days are a joke. It is very rare that we learn something that a few years of tape didn’t already show.

  2. Yeah, the one thing football is missing is more first round draft busts.

    Let’s try to have as little information as possible, get that bust rate to the next level!

  3. He shouldn’t do anything on field related, no need to question that. He should re do those combine interviews he bombed.

  4. He has nothing to gain and lots to lose. Stupid teams will be PO’ed if he doesn’t jump through hoops for them and will pass on him. But that’s why they’re stupid.

  5. “One of these days, a top prospect won’t play any of these “job applicant” games, opting instead to say to the league at large, “You have my film from college. Draft me, or wait for one of your competitors to.”
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    Ridiculous. College coaches aren’t stupid either. They know how to hide flaws of their players and not call plays that they have trouble executing. If Murray can’t consistently throw a 18-yard out, Riley wouldn’t install that into the game plan and there wouldn’t be film of it.

    Can’t hide at the Combine or pro day. If Murray doesn’t throw it, it’s a huge red flag.

  6. He’s probably going #1 to the Cardinals, and he already knows that. This will just be a PR workout. Just smile and say all the right things. When the scouts show up with their stopwatch, ask them how fast Tom Brady runs.

  7. IMO, this shows a lack of confidence. I do not agree this small quarterback has nothing to loose. Rather I believe, this possible move, can indeed hurt his draft position. I believe way over hyped. I believe there could be an attitude issue as well. Let the buyer beware.

  8. agree with you. But I also think the Combine and Pro Days are a joke. It is very rare that we learn something that a few years of tape didn’t already

    Except he only has 1 year of tape

  9. Throw, get measured/weighed and move along. Stop / start and straight line speed are not important, you can see those on tape. Throwing mechanics are something to look at. You are ultimately going to be paid for the arm. Let them see what they are buying.

  10. Kyler Murray should definitely run the 40 at his Pro-Day. If Murray turns in a 40 time in the 4.3’s or even 4.41 or better his draft stock will explode through the roof.

    AZ isnt drafting a QB, they’re looking to trade the pick and with a handful of teams seriously interested in drafting a QB the value of that top pick goes way up especially with the Giants heavily scouting Murray and now possessing the draft capital to go get him. Gruden is interested in Murray as well and is stocked up w/ draft picks. If Murray has an unbelievable Pro-Day workout today it’s all but certain someone moves up for that top pick giving AZ a few premium much need premium draft picks in order to do so. New York could likely move up into the #1 spot for the cost of the 17th overall draft pick & a 3rd round pick w/ AZ moving back to 6th overall on draft day. That makes sense for both the Cardinals and Giants is far from a ransom for that top pick. Murray paired up Saquon Barkley, Sterling Shepard and Evan Engram would instantly give the Giants a far more explosive offense & change the NYG’s fortunes very quickly making the NYG into a much better football team.

  11. akira1971 says:
    March 13, 2019 at 7:55 am
    “One of these days, a top prospect won’t play any of these “job applicant” games, opting instead to say to the league at large, “You have my film from college. Draft me, or wait for one of your competitors to.”
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    Ridiculous. College coaches aren’t stupid either. They know how to hide flaws of their players and not call plays that they have trouble executing. If Murray can’t consistently throw a 18-yard out, Riley wouldn’t install that into the game plan and there wouldn’t be film of it.

    Can’t hide at the Combine or pro day. If Murray doesn’t throw it, it’s a huge red flag.

    Maybe the NFL coach should learn to call plays that showcase the talent on their rosters and not their often unproven schemes.

  12. charliecharger says:
    March 13, 2019 at 8:06 am
    He’s probably going #1 to the Cardinals, and he already knows that. This will just be a PR workout. Just smile and say all the right things. When the scouts show up with their stopwatch, ask them how fast Tom Brady runs.
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    He is not going to the Cardinals. Arizona has said multiple times Josh Rosen is the guy in AZ, including the owner. AZ is very high on Josh Rosen & the GM who not only drafted him but TRADED UP to get him is still the GM & calling the shots in AZ. AZ has just been trying to raise the value of the #1 overall pick to trade out of it, they want to pick up a few more premium draft picks to build up that offense around Josh Rosen. And if Murray looks unbelievable today odds are extremely high they end up pulling that off & trading out of #1 , picking up a few more premium picks they use to build around Josh Rosen. With a much better OL in front of Josh Rosen w/ all their OL men now healthy and a few upgrades to the OL QB Josh Rosen should really take off in year 2 in a much more modern offense built around his strengths w/ David Johnson used properly again a few more weapons/upgrades added at WR and another pass catching TE paired up with Charles Clay. Christian Kirk is a stud to and should take that next step in his development this season.

  13. One of these days, a top prospect won’t play any of these “job applicant” games, opting instead to say to the league at large, “You have my film from college. Draft me, or wait for one of your competitors to.”
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    Yeah, how dare NFL teams do their due diligence before shelling out millions and hanging the future of their franchise on a 21/22 year old. How insulting to make a young person out of college interview for a job!

  14. I remember all the hype about Brady Quinn then watching him sit at that table trying not to look uncomfortable until the Browns picked him at the bottom of the first round. I’m not saying Murray will have the same thing happen but it would be interesting if it did. The bottom line is the media sometimes falls in love with a player and the 32 teams of scouts don’t.

  15. Looks like the 49ers are not banking on the Cards picking Murray. They just traded for Dee Ford instead of hoping to draft a college edge rusher with the second pick overall. They may even trade down to get more picks.

  16. Sorry Mike, but before a team hangs their future on a 5’9″ (sorry, he’s not 5’10”) QB with one year experience….they should see some specific drills up close & personal if they’re doing their jobs.

    Can he make specific throws? Can he throw a 15 yard out on a rope? Can he effectively throw over NFL sized lineman? Can he function within a specific offensive scheme?

    You can call them “job applicant games”…..I call them “due diligence.”

  17. Is it “job applicant games” to actually talk to Murray and interview him and see if he can answer questions without his Dad or agent feeding him the answers? Is he as awkward as he appeared on Dan Patrick’s show? Is he polished enough to handle being the face of a franchise? Will he be able to handle the pressures of the role should he struggle in Year 1?

    These are legitimate concerns and questions. Not “games.”

    My question still stands that I’ve been asking for weeks. Why is this prospect so promoted and protected by so many in the media? What’s so special about Murray versus all other prospects? Why doesn’t Haskins or Bosa get this kind of treatment?

    I have nothing against Murray. I hope he does well. But it should not be sacrilegious for questions to be asked about his prospects in the NFL.

  18. Independently measure and weigh him and make sure his shoes are off and he shows you his heels before he steps on the scale!

  19. Will Kyler Murray work out at his Pro Day workout?

    Worlds are colliding on Wednesday, as both the new league year begins and the league’s next big thing has his Pro Day workout on the same day.

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    This is one thing about the media that drives me totally nuts, they’re giving the keys to the castle to a want-a-be who hasn’t even taken a snap in the NFL yet! Next big thing? Let’s wait and see if he can even play at this level(remember a lot of QBs the media had pegged as “GREAT” didn’t even last 5yrs) before we anoint him the next Brady or Rodgers!

  20. tinye67 says:
    March 13, 2019 at 9:27 am

    Yeah, how dare NFL teams do their due diligence before shelling out millions and hanging the future of their franchise on a 21/22 year old. How insulting to make a young person out of college interview for a job!
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    So please enlighten us and tell us all just exactly what is a team going to learn from watching a guy throw in shorts and a tee to receivers who aren’t even defended against NO pass rush that the game tapes don’t show?

    “Crickets” that’s what I thought!

    Watch the game tape, it’ll show you 1000X more than any Combine or Pro Day will!

  21. “Thanks for coming everyone. Welcome to my Pro Day, previously known as Pro Day Workout. This concludes my Pro Day.”

  22. Something seems fishy. After all his fluffers said he’d do everything. So far he has only been weighed.

    Kyler Murray only weighs in at his pro day. No height measurement. Weighs in at 205.

  23. Steve Cunningham says:

    March 13, 2019 at 11:14 am

    tinye67 says:
    March 13, 2019 at 9:27 am

    Yeah, how dare NFL teams do their due diligence before shelling out millions and hanging the future of their franchise on a 21/22 year old. How insulting to make a young person out of college interview for a job!
    ____________________________________________

    So please enlighten us and tell us all just exactly what is a team going to learn from watching a guy throw in shorts and a tee to receivers who aren’t even defended against NO pass rush that the game tapes don’t show?

    “Crickets” that’s what I thought!

    Watch the game tape, it’ll show you 1000X more than any Combine or Pro Day will!
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    No crickets.
    I’m sure actual NFL personnel who know what they’re looking for could run a prospect thru a variety of drills that are germane to their offense. For example, what if their passing scheme is predicated on quick 10-15 yards outs. Does he have the arm strength? Can he throw a specific route on a rope? Or does he float it?

    Games show a lot. I agree. Some of the underwear Olympics are probably silly. But some drills are very important. If I have concerns about a QB that size with only one year of real experience….yeah, I’ll do my due diligence without apology before investing a Top 5 pick.

  24. ramsfanintexas says: “Maybe the NFL coach should learn to call plays that showcase the talent on their rosters and not their often unproven schemes.”
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    Right. So if all 5 WRs on the team can run a perfect 12-yd ‘dig’ route but your prospective draft QB can’t throw it, your idea is to scrap that play design altogether?!?

  25. Teams shouldn’t have even showed up. What a waste of time and money. He’s a diva and hasn’t played a down. At least the media loves him.

  26. Like the sound analogy. If they hold a workout and the player doesn’t workout is it really a workout?

  27. The young man controls his destiny as far as the draft. If he is certain he is going #1 to the Cards, pitch and catch is all he needs to do! If not, be transparent and do the 40, throw all the throws and jump through the hoops because you need to impress. Most important, convey to the team’s that you are a Team first player who just wants to win. Play the game and make the cash!

  28. All this love for a 1 year starter who spits in the face of teams.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Have you ever had someone spit in your face? That isn’t what this is. He is being smart..

  29. This is the NFL’s fault that they pay these guys big money before they take a snap. They should load the first two years with incentives with a team option for 3 more and then pay them the big bucks.

  30. buffalosunshine says:
    March 13, 2019 at 1:19 pm

    All this love for a 1 year starter who spits in the face of teams.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Have you ever had someone spit in your face? That isn’t what this is. He is being smart..

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    An undersized, 1 year starter, diva that the media loves and defends to the hilt. Doesn’t do much at the combine. Says he’ll do everything at his Pro day, does nothing but gets weighed. Looks like Casserly was correct more and more. Teams were stupid to send anyone to his Pro day or believe anything he says.

  31. Mike, your strategy is perfectly fine ASSUMING he plays as well as a pro as his ONE college season.

    The concern is not for his first opportunity, but for his second. Teams keep books on each player in the league including his combine / pro day stats. They use these to evaluate free agents and trades.

    Suppose he fails (or is injured) with his team and goes looking for another job. The workout data will be helpful then.

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