Giants wanted second overall pick from the 49ers for Odell Beckham

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The man who called his shot and saw it eventually hit the target has some more details regarding the Odell Beckham Jr. trade talks.

Jay Glazer, who in a previous Q&A column for TheAthletic.com made a Beckham trade Glazer’s “bold prediction” for the offseason, writes in his latest series of responses to reader inquiries that the Browns weren’t the only team in the mix for Beckham.

“The 49ers were in several different times,” Glazer writes. “They tried during the season and they tried here in the offseason. Someone with the Giants told me they were asking for the second pick of the draft from the 49ers, which the 49ers weren’t willing to do.”

It’s unclear whether the 49ers offered anything other than the second overall pick. Ultimately, the Giants received the 17th overall pick, a third-round pick, and safety Jabrill Peppers for Beckham.

Rumors linking the 49ers to Beckham had been swirling for months, as people who frequent this corner of the web surely realize. Even if the Giants could have gotten a better deal from the 49ers than the one the Giants ultimately accepted, there’s value in getting Beckham out of the conference altogether and seeing him only once every four years.

70 responses to “Giants wanted second overall pick from the 49ers for Odell Beckham

  1. “there’s value in getting Beckham out of the conference altogether and seeing him only once every four years’

    This logic drives me crazy. Are you actually saying that not having to possibly face a guy once or possibly twice if both teams are good enough to make the playoffs is worth the difference between the 2nd and 17th picks in the first round? They only chance they would have AT ALL to meet next season is in the playoffs- do you think if by some miracle the Giants make the playoffs this year they will care if they have to go up against OBJ?

    Take. The. Best. Deal. Period. The goal is to improve YOUR team as much as possible. If you are that terrified of a guy, maybe you shouldn’t be trading him.

  2. Frisco does not have another first round pick to give, and an additional third round pick plus a starting safety who was drafted in the first round a couple years ago plus a first rounder simply is too high a price to pay for a prima donna who will likely want a huge contract after his current one runs out. OBJ is not any better than Antonio Brown, and the Giants want a lot more than what the Steelers got for Brown. No way Jose. The Patriots shows that it is not necessary to have all pro wide receivers to win 3 Super Bowls. The win-loss record of the Giants shows that having a great receiver is not enough.

  3. What teams eventually came to understand is the Giants were determined to move OBJ. That’s fine If that’s what they choose to do, but it does not put them in a position of strength as to what they can demand in return.

  4. The Giants are a dumpster fire right now and Gettleman and Mara have the gas out to do more damage. Eli is finished- he has been for 4 years. Yet the Giant organization seems more concerned about protecting his feelings than fixing the team. Eli is no help. He has NEVER restructured or done anything to help with cap relief.He and his brother never met a dollar they didn’t like. Ironic. His inflexibility will lead to another lousy season of languish. The Giant fan base, one of the most loyal in sport, deserve better.

  5. “…there’s value in getting Beckham out of the conference altogether and seeing him only once every four years.”

    Not really. How much success have the giants had with Beckham? He’s a diva and a constant headache and players like that never make much of a difference. Why not ship him to another team within the conference (or even division) and take their high draft picks and leave them with a a guy that is more likely to wreck the team than raise it up.

  6. Just wait til Baker Mayfield starts spreading the ball around to the “other guys” this season. It’ll be a Browns helmet getting fired into the bench area instead of a Giants helmet. High priced diva wideouts that want “touches” and the dough don’t win you Super Bowls.

  7. The point of

    “there’s value in getting Beckham out of the conference altogether and seeing him only once every four years”

    is that it shouldn’t be forgotten when evaluating the trade against alternate options the Giants had available to them, specifically the 49ers.

    It doesn’t mean this was the deciding factor, just that it does have some value.

    How much value?
    Who knows.

  8. Wishing the Browns Well! I want to see them back in the Playoffs. It is good for football and their fans.

  9. Are you actually saying that not having to possibly face a guy once or possibly twice if both teams are good enough to make the playoffs is worth the difference between the 2nd and 17th picks in the first round?
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    Ah, no, they are not.
    If you read the post, they were never going to get the second pick in the draft. SF wasn’t going to make that deal. The mention of getting him out of the Conference was just one more little aspect.
    Trading a star player out of the Conference is to protect management from having to hear it from fans and the local media. Out of sight, out of mind.

  10. tahnoonzee says:
    March 16, 2019 at 11:19 am
    Giants got ripped off.

    9 15 Rate This

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    lmao

    the giants fleeced the browns, dumping a cancer, shedding a bloated contract and stealing picks for a rebuild

  11. This is an interesting twist for those who wish their team will tank at the end of the year. If the Niners won a few more games this year, their pick would have been low enough to have the OBJ trade make sense. But the 2nd over all pick is deemed too valuable. I hope Bosa/QWilliams/Allen’s production is as beneficial to the Niners and OBJ’s will be to the Browns.

  12. Beckham is a cancer. I hope you win a lot Browns fans. Because if you don’t, the Lil Wayne interviews are right around the corner.

  13. The Giants should trade a 2nd rounder for Josh Rosen who still has 4 years left on his rookie deal. That’s the only way the Beckham trade makes sense.

  14. I understand the idea of getting beckham out of the conference but that does not necessarily mean being with the 49ers would necessarily crush the Giants.

    We traded Drew Bledsoe WITHIN THE DIVISION TO BUFFALO in 2002…..

  15. What did the Browns really give up? Their second 3rd round pick, that they got from the Patriots. It’s more like a early 4th rounder. Peppers, he is decent, but not great, easily replaceable. And if you ask me if I would choose OBJ with the 17th pick of this years draft, I am all in on that one. They also got Vernon for a highly payed guard, when his replacement is last years 33rd pick of the draft, just chomping at the bit to play. The Browns used a position of strength to bolster a position of weakness. I see no problem with what the Browns did. It’s called making your team better.

  16. tylawspick6 says:
    March 16, 2019 at 11:41 am
    tahnoonzee says:
    March 16, 2019 at 11:19 am
    Giants got ripped off.

    9 15 Rate This

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    lmao

    the giants fleeced the browns, dumping a cancer, shedding a bloated contract and stealing picks for a rebuild

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    its like everybody forgot how hes been injured for almost his entire career, and that the team did better last season with him out of the lineup. that was on purpose to show the giants TEAM that theyre a team, not just singularly represented by one dbags identity. he said he was ready to go last cpl weeks last season. team said nah have a seat on the bench bro. heal up 100% so we can get rid of you bc we hate you. im not sure why his fan base is so big. hes the most selfish kind of person there is, to the core. oh well. weve seen dozens of these guys flame out. browns fans. just wait before you give yourself strokes pumping blood so fast. the games are played on the field, which obj hasnt seen much of in 5 seasons.

  17. navyvandal says:
    March 16, 2019 at 12:21 pm
    I understand the idea of getting beckham out of the conference but that does not necessarily mean being with the 49ers would necessarily crush the Giants.

    We traded Drew Bledsoe WITHIN THE DIVISION TO BUFFALO in 2002…..

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    yea but bill belichick doesnt play scared. he plays aggressively and does whats best for his team without regard to what somebody else may or may not do with another franchise. im sure he felt supremely confident that bledsoe wouldnt get him fired for losing to the bills. jimmy g was different. he had a different more modern skill set. bill isnt scared but hes not dumb either. no way jimmy g was being traded to the bills.

  18. One one hand, I’m glad Lynch didnt make this trade.
    On the other hand, I am worried he’ll draft another Solomon Thomas or Rueben Foster at the top of the draft…

  19. searay18 says:
    March 16, 2019 at 12:22 pm
    What did the Browns really give up? Their second 3rd round pick, that they got from the Patriots. It’s more like a early 4th rounder. Peppers, he is decent, but not great, easily replaceable. And if you ask me if I would choose OBJ with the 17th pick of this years draft, I am all in on that one. They also got Vernon for a highly payed guard, when his replacement is last years 33rd pick of the draft, just chomping at the bit to play. The Browns used a position of strength to bolster a position of weakness. I see no problem with what the Browns did. It’s called making your team better.

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    vernon. hes another one. signs a big contract then cant get on the field at all. another jon beason. i cant wait for the season to start and for the browns to do browns things again. i know the possibility of actually having more than 8 wins is huge, but youre not super bowl bound. trust me.

  20. Using the draft trade value chart, the approximate value of what the Browns gave for Beckham is 1500*. The value of the 49ers 2nd overall pick is 2600. In other words, the Giants accepted far less from the Browns than they were asking from the 49ers.

    Obviously, what the Giants were asking for was completely unrealistic. The market eventually settled out at a much lower price point. The question is, what did the 49ers counter-offer? Because you KNOW they had a counter-offer, and that’s what the Giants actually rejected in favor of the Browns deal.

    Also, the concept of “getting him out of the conference” is laughable. That idea made some kind of sense back in 1979, but in the supercharged multi-media environment of 2019 you can never get away from a player. Giants fans are going to be painfully aware of OBJ’s actions 24×7 for the foreseeable future.

    *This assumes the Jabrill Peppers is worth a second round pick in trade.

  21. Sad to say … the Giants are a ship without a rudder ever since Ann Mara died and left John in sole control of the family toy. John is like the little rich boy who finally gets to drive his Father’s car and comes home with nothing but the steering wheel in his hand. Gettleman is like the old “teats on a bull” expression – useless. Eli is the Casey Jones of the nfl – heading for a train wreck.
    Come back, Tom, come back.

  22. Southpaw79 says:
    March 16, 2019 at 12:00 pm
    This is an interesting twist for those who wish their team will tank at the end of the year. If the Niners won a few more games this year, their pick would have been low enough to have the OBJ trade make sense. But the 2nd overall pick is deemed too valuable.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Excellent point.

  23. 49ers should have done it. They dont need any more top 5 picks, but a young veteran sensation would be great.

  24. As exciting as he is on the field, he brings baggage (off-field, injury, huge contract) that just are not worthy of #2 pick in a draft this stocked with potential defensive stars.

    As much as I think he would thrive under Shanahan, I’m relieved the 49ers didn’t give up the house. Receivers are entertaining, but it’s extremely rare that they are the difference maker for championships. The old term was “shiny hood ornament” and I think that’s appropriate.

  25. Becham is a proven commodity.
    Draft picks are a crap shoot
    Any draft pick can bust.
    Let’s revisit this in a year or 2 to ask would they trade the drafted player for Becham.
    My guess is the answer would be “Yes”

  26. The rumored bills trade for AB was swap of 9th for 20th and a 2nd and 4th couldn’t these swap 2 for 6 add 49ers 1st next year and a pick or 2 this season

  27. I am a Giants fan. Beckham is one of my favorite players in the league. But trust the process. All 4 Giants Super Bowls have been won with Defense and a running game. This franchise is Saquons now. Eli doesn’t have the arm strength to utilize Odell. Sure up the offensive line. Draft front 7 defenders with the 6 and 17. Peppers and Bethea start the secondary. And in the 2nd round draft an OL or a possession WR. Tank for Tua next year or Lawrence the year afte

  28. The NYG tried to rip off the Niners and in turn got ripped off by the Browns.
    Now they should offer up the #6, 17 and a 3rd rounder for the #2 so hey can get a QB.

  29. I would much rather have Golden Tate on my team than OBJ. Tate is tough as nails, CLUTCH, and a team player. 3 things that OBJ is not.

  30. 2nd overall for that clown? The Browns are the perfect place to deal with his immature Diva like actions. Giant fans should be elated.

  31. Not sure offering all those picks would work if you can’t get Murray…..recent reports, if believed, say NYG don’t want Haskins…….If that’s true, you wouldn’t offer all those picks for any other potential 1st round QB………wud ya ???

  32. Becham’s best friend is Jarvis Landry…I don’t think the Browns have to worry about him being a cancer! Plus they actually have a QB that can get him the ball.

  33. thetooloftools says:
    March 16, 2019 at 11:18 am

    I can’t believe I’m writing this, but it’s a great time to have been a life long Browns fan.
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    I guess that depends on how long your life has been. If you’re only 2 years old, then yeah, it’s utopia to be a Browns fan.
    If you’re older than that, you haven’t been having much fun.

  34. If the Giants were a better team it would be worth the headache for a guy who’s as interested in his career as he is with curating his social profile. But they aren’t so it is not worth it. If he would have made 1 pro-Giant comment after he got his deal he would probably still be in NY. But no, he goes on TV talking his uncommitted BS. Word of this trade leaked before the 4:00pm deadline; he could’ve squashed this deal one way or the other. He did not want to be here and would have DEFINITELY pulled the same deal as Brown did in Pitt. He traded himself. As a fan, I hated to see him go. Business-wise he was a future(?) headache.

  35. “I guess that depends on how long your life has been. If you’re only 2 years old, then yeah, it’s utopia to be a Browns fan.
    If you’re older than that, you haven’t been having much fun.”
    Seriously? are you just dumb or trolling? I’m 43, and have been a die hard fan my whole life. We are like kids in a candy store right now. And it’s not because we’re all under 2 years old, it’s because on paper, the Browns have NEVER had more talent on their team as a whole. Not in the 50’s-60’s when they won multiple championships, not in the Brian Sipe era, not in the 80’s-90’s when they were in the playoffs every year, NEVER. we have endured 30 years of pain (and our lone playoff season since coming back we were not very good) and just went from an 0-16 team to a 7 win team to a Super Bowl contender, so yes it is good to be a Browns fan right now, and no broken logic of yours is gonna change that.

  36. I cannot understand the hate on the Browns. Beckham was quiet last year, is supremely talented, and acts like a diva over bad team play, not money. “Bloated contract” nope. It’s amazing people are trashing on how he’s gonna want this mega contract when we just signed him to an extension for 4yrs without a single drop of drama. “Vernon can’t stay on the field” nope. Clearly one of the best pass rushers in the league, and they tend to get banged up a lot when they’re young, so no concern about that.
    People act like we got Beckham in an act of desperation where he’s expected to save the Franchise when we were clearly stacked before he got here. MArk my words, this time next year, Brown has already been traded or released after another mental breakdown year, and Beckham won’t say squat, cause he just got a raise, will get plenty of touches, and will be winning. Hate all you want people, but at least do some homework before making yourselves look uneducated. It’s literally all over every news outlet that we signed him to an extension right after the trade, and so many people don’t even realize it and are trashing him for a problem that never was.

  37. Could have swapped first round picks this year plus other compensation. Hard to believe they couldn’t have shown the Brown’s offer to other teams and not gotten a better deal. Seems like they just wanted OBJ gone ASAP.

  38. Watch the Giants now trade half of those draft picks they’ve acquired back to the 49ers so they can take Haskins 2nd overall! #bookit

    But they did get Peppers on his rookie deal for a couple of seasons, so it might work out well in the end. They needed to shed Beckham and that contract.

  39. Glad my Niners didn’t relent and give up #2 for OBJ. They would’ve been fools to trade away that #2 pick and not grab one of the elite pass rushers that’ll be available with the #2.

    They wanted wayyy to much for dude.

  40. Think of this: The 49ers were interested in Beckham, they apparently weren’t interested in A. Brown. That says something to me.

  41. Giants made a huge mistake a long time ago. Phillip Rivers would have and still would look good in New York.

  42. @ Poopy McPoopface:

    What an appropriate name. You can’t take a joke. No one hates the Browns. What have the Browns done that would make anyone hate them? You need serious help.

  43. xofdallas says:
    March 16, 2019 at 4:17 pm
    Think of this: The 49ers were interested in Beckham, they apparently weren’t interested in A. Brown. That says something to me.
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    What does it say? They have the second pick in the draft. That’s usually earned through incompetence and poor personnel evaluating. So if they were interested in Beckham and not Brown, some might be led to believe that Brown has a great career ahead of him, and Beckham will be a bust. The 49ers were a model of how to run a franchise in the 80’s, but I don’t think a lot of people are using them as a template in recent years. See that team that’s picking #32 again? They weren’t interested in either one. That says something to me.

  44. tahnoonzee says:
    March 16, 2019 at 11:19 am
    Giants got ripped off.

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    That all depends on how Peppers performs in the giants system and what they do with those picks. Pittsburgh on the other hand….😬

  45. Giants fans talking about “shedding a cancer” make me laugh. The guy wants to win. End of. Outside of Barkley (who is elite, obviously) the Giants roster is awful- an absolute mess. You’d be better with Danny Kannell at QB than the current version of Eli. Kerry Collins was FAR better than the current version of Eli.
    OBJ didn’t pull an AB or LB in Pittsburgh… The guy just wants to win and your fan base are hammering him for it.

  46. whostolemyxanax says:

    March 16, 2019 at 3:20 pm

    Could have swapped first round picks this year plus other compensation. Hard to believe they couldn’t have shown the Brown’s offer to other teams and not gotten a better deal. Seems like they just wanted OBJ gone ASAP.
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    Who’s going to give up more than Browns did? The Browns gave up a mid 1st rd pick, a 3rd rd pick and a former 1st rd pick in Peppers who’s still on his rookie deal so at worst Peppers is pretty comparable to a 2nd round pick at worst and Peppers fills the hole Collins left.

  47. Nobody is saying Beckham wasn’t dedicated. But the “he only wants to win” canard is a joke.

  48. 1andDone says:
    March 16, 2019 at 12:29 pm
    One one hand, I’m glad Lynch didnt make this trade.
    On the other hand, I am worried he’ll draft another Solomon Thomas or Rueben Foster at the top of the draft…

    Thomas has played out of position since they drafted him. They need to move him inside

  49. ayokel21 says:
    March 16, 2019 at 6:41 pm
    49ers better off with Bosa. They can find a wideout later in the draft.
    =================================

    That’s IF AZ lets the 49ers have a chance at drafting Bosa. If the Cardinals can not trade picks in order to add more picks (while i’ll give you has a high probability of happening) then AZ is guaranteed to take Bosa which would give them the best outside pass rush in the league allowing them to send fresh pass rushers in waves between Chandler Jones, Nick Bosa, T-Suggz, Brooks Reed and Hasson Reddick who rush’s both from inside at ILB and off the edge. AZ wont let Bosa get to SF unless they can trade back adding a few more premium picks to build up there offense around Josh Rosen with.

  50. mackcarrington says:
    March 16, 2019 at 4:27 pm
    @ Poopy McPoopface:

    What an appropriate name. You can’t take a joke. No one hates the Browns. What have the Browns done that would make anyone hate them? You need serious help.
    I need help? There has been nonstop trash talking and hate towards the Browns for decades.Like have you ever read an article about the Browns in your life? Maybe I wasn’t aware it was a joke, didn’t sound like one, but whatever. To say I need help for insinuating the Browns get hated on in not only an insane comment, it’s a completely uneducated one. Read people’s responses on every single Browns article in the last 30 years and tell me again that nobody is hating on them. You not only must not watch football like at all to not understand this, to assume my comment has less merit because of my name makes you sound even dumber. Perhaps if you’re gonna tell someone they need help in the future, know what you’re talking about first, cause we have been the most hated on team in sports for decades.

  51. RobfromAmarillo says:
    March 16, 2019 at 5:53 pm
    Nobody is saying Beckham wasn’t dedicated. But the “he only wants to win” canard is a joke.

    Maybe that’s not all he cares about but it is obvious that he has a lot of passion for the game. He’s not even in the same league of diva as AB. Plus he got off the lousy team he wanted off of, got a pat contract extension, and is playing for a young QB who can make every throw, so he will get plenty of touches. I think Cleveland has every box checked with OBJ, so we will just have to wait and see how it turns out. One things for sure, Browns fan or not, they’re gonna be a real fun team to watch this year. Who woulda thought the Browns would turn it around so quick? We should just build Dorsey a statue now, cause he’s already done better than any other GM we’ve had.

  52. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. They had 7 wins last year. They have a long way to go. Let’s talk after the season next year. I don’t subscribe to the paper champion. There have been many paper champions in past years. If history is an indication, paper champions tend to stay paper champions.

  53. deuce22222 says:
    March 16, 2019 at 9:05 pm
    Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. They had 7 wins last year. They have a long way to go. Let’s talk after the season next year. I don’t subscribe to the paper champion. There have been many paper champions in past years. If history is an indication, paper champions tend to stay paper champions.
    The thing is, if you have actually watched the Browns for years as I have, you could see a completely different Browns team last year.They’re not the same team

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