Patriots are big favorites to win AFC East

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The odds are being set for the eight NFL divisions, and the NFL’s official casino partner loves the team that many now love to hate.

According to Caesers Entertainment, the Patriots are -850 favorites to win the AFC East, which means that it takes a wager of $850 to win only $100.

Given that the Pats have won the division for 10 straight years and 15 out of 16, it’s no surprise. Since the merger, no team has showed that kind of domination over a single division.

The Jets are +650 to win it, and the Bills have been installed at +1000. The Dolphins, meanwhile, are ridiculous longshots at +10,000. Which are basically John-Mellencamp-winning-an-Oscar odds.

Those odds were posted before the Dolphins signed Ryan Fitzpatrick to play quarterback. Whether the number goes up or down remains to be seen.

111 responses to “Patriots are big favorites to win AFC East

  1. Until someone knocks them off pats deserve too be big time favorites. But when they do get knocked off their not getting back and that will happen sooner than later. They will fall from grace one of these years

  2. This is based almost entirely on the past. The Pats will always be favored to win the division – until they don’t.

    42 year old QB who was declining last year, huge loss of talent, Bills and Jets both finding QBs and making good moves – Pats will have to earn it this year if they do win.

    They won’t. Last year was the swan song.

  3. Pats have won the division for 10 straight years and 15 out of 16,Since the merger, no team has showed that kind of domination over a single division! 👏👏👏👏 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆

  4. golforepar says:
    March 17, 2019 at 6:22 pm
    That division is so easy the Pats might stop cheating to win it!

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    What the hell are you talking about?

  5. most amazing is that they dominate one of the strongest divisions in the league. In fact they dominate EVERY division in the league. bend the knee or lose your head.

  6. A “gazillion picks” in the draft don’t matter if you’re not good at drafting.

    BB and Brady are what makes things roll. They’re getting pretty old.

  7. Patriots aren’t gonna win the afc east this year.

    That’s gonna be the dolphins once they finalize that deal with Colin Kaepernick!

    Patriots won’t even hold the Dolphins jock strap.

    Bill shouldn’t of let Flores go haha

  8. Ok golforepar, rolling eyes. Here we go with the “division is so week whaaaaaaa” none-sense. And of course you have to throw a “cheating” in there as well. Yuck yuck yuck. So original.

    The fact of the matter is it would likely still be the same if (insert team name here) was in the division too. Did we not just beat the 3 hottest teams in the league to win a 6th? Are we supposed to think that if say, any one of those teams, or any other team for that matter, were in the division all of a sudden we would lose to them all the time? Ok. Sure.

    Funny thing is, if really paying attention, we actually do lose to division teams all the time. See Miami just this year. Cost us home field even.

    The bottom line is this – these are all professional teams. Wins are never easy, even in this division. They deserve credit for what they’ve done. Not this “weak division” nonsense.

  9. jets2469 says:
    March 17, 2019 at 6:12 pm

    Until someone knocks them off pats deserve too be big time favorites. But when they do get knocked off their not getting back and that will happen sooner than later. They will fall from grace one of these years
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    Wow, such a bold prediction.

  10. Nofoolnodrool says:
    March 17, 2019 at 6:27 pm
    Hey they always win the The Little Sisters of Mercy CYO division. Is this a joke question?
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    No seriously. Then they beat your team you in a playoff game or the Super bowl.

  11. Ignorant people think the AFCE is weak. The fact is that the Pats W/L% with Brady is about the same for the rest of the NFL as it is against the AFCE.

  12. The 2nd Best QB to play in the AFC East during that time span is Ryan Fitzpatrick…

    Every other division has had 3+ QBs who have been Pro Bowlers, All Pros, and MVPs…in that same time span…

  13. “Patriots aren’t gonna win the afc east this year.

    That’s gonna be the dolphins once they finalize that deal with Colin Kaepernick!”

    You’re delusional. None of the Florida teams could get away with singing Kaep after he wore the Castro shirt. The huge Cuban population there would go berserk if any of them did that, Fins, Jags or Bucs.

  14. The pats have had a tremendous run even I abloyal die hard jets fan will bow down too that. But eventually it will end and every realistic person can see the writing on the wall. Brady is the best Belichick is the best the pats have been the best. It’s over now once one goes it will never be the same. Tylaw don’t matter how many picks you have once u lose the qb it’s OVER

  15. muzzy27 says:
    March 17, 2019 at 6:27 pm
    But, but, but Jets fans say now that LeVeon is in NY they have this wrapped up!! Lol! Ah, New Yorkers, so cute.

    I haven’t heard a single Jets fan say that. Please provide some proof of what you’re saying. Copy and paste even one comment from a Jets fan saying they have the division wrapped up. I bet you can’t

  16. If not the Patriots who? The Jets with Mark Sanchez 2.0 at QB? The Bills with Josh Allen who is still a project? Or the Dolphins who are tanking to draft a QB in 2020?

  17. One of the worst myths in the NFL is that the Pats win because they play in the AFCE. The FACT is that the Pats have pretty much the SAME winning percentage over EVERY division in the league (around 73%)

    Meanwhile the Bills Dolphins and even the Jets do some damage to the rest of the league now and then. It’s not that they are always THAT bad. Part of their problem is that they have to play the Pats twice a year.

    You guys really need to find a more realistic hate to grab hold of. After close to 20 years of success, you old canards are getting boring.

  18. The easiest division the Patriots play in is the final division. The playoff division. They are 30-10 in that division since 2001. They get such a break playing against playoff teams in the playoff division. It’s like getting three free wins every season.

  19. Every year the Patriots play a 2 game schedule. Before the season starts they are the AFC east winners. Their first game is usually a Division Round Playoff game at home against a road weary team that has played the week before while the Patriots have had a bye. Their second game is the AFC Championship game either home or away. You see it’s really not that hard to make the Super Bowl (win 2 straight) or win the Super Bowl (win 3 straight). This is the advantage to playing in a division that for decades has been dreadful.

  20. One more time for the CRYBABIES

    #GOATx6

    While the Patriots’ 86-24 record against the AFC East is staggering, their winning percentage (134-44, 0.753) against everyone else is the best in the NFL, while they have 25 more non-division victories than any other team.

    New England’s record against eventual division winners (24-14) makes them the only team in the NFL with a winning record in this category. Against teams who eventually made the playoffs in a given season, the Patriots (60-33, 0.645) are the best in the league, with the Steelers at a not-so-close second with a 0.480 winning percentage.

    Their success against teams who finished with a winning record (75-45, 0.625) is also an NFL-best mark, with the Steelers trailing by a considerable margin at a 0.440 winning percentage.

    It’s settled then. The Patriots don’t just take care of business against the AFC East, but no team is even close to their level of success against teams outside their division.

  21. Lol – I don’t know how anyone gets “Mark Sanchez 2.0” out of Darnold. I’m no Jets fan, but he is going to be a very good QB.

    Pats fans really have no idea what’s coming. Their team isn’t even developing a QB. Allen and Darnold will be battling for the division in the years to come.

  22. georgeremus says:
    March 17, 2019 at 7:54 pm
    Every year the Patriots play a 2 game schedule. Before the season starts they are the AFC east winners. Their first game is usually a Division Round Playoff game at home against a road weary team that has played the week before while the Patriots have had a bye. Their second game is the AFC Championship game either home or away. You see it’s really not that hard to make the Super Bowl (win 2 straight) or win the Super Bowl (win 3 straight). This is the advantage to playing in a division that for decades has been dreadful.

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    This is interesting. So what division would you like to move them to? And before you answer, go and take a look at their winning percentage against that division…..

  23. muzzy27 says:
    March 17, 2019 at 6:27 pm
    But, but, but Jets fans say now that LeVeon is in NY they have this wrapped up!! Lol! Ah, New Yorkers, so cute.

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    I read every comment on the page made before this and not one person, fan of ANY TEAM let alone the Jets, said anything like that. NYers being cute is quite preferable to making comments that make a person look infantile.

    “Ahh,

  24. Every year about this time we get the “Pats play in a weak division” thing. The Pats MADE the division weak by winning year in year out, owners started firing coaches and importing expensive talent to try to beat them. Rex Ryan actually lasted longer than most. Yes, someday it will be over. When it’s over, they won’t win EVERY year, just many of them.

    But year after year, Bills/Dolphins/Jets fans say “oh, they will be shocked THIS year because we hired _________” and every year they disappear in December.

    Try winning the thing before bragging, idiots.

  25. Patfanken- that’s not a good argument.

    Pats have been great – but it is not disputable that they have benefitted from historic ineptitude on the part of their division foes.

  26. idislikespeciousness says:
    March 17, 2019 at 7:53 pm
    The easiest division the Patriots play in is the final division. The playoff division. They are 30-10 in that division since 2001. They get such a break playing against playoff teams in the playoff division. It’s like getting three free wins every season.

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    georgeremus says:
    March 17, 2019 at 7:54 pm
    Every year the Patriots play a 2 game schedule. Before the season starts they are the AFC east winners. Their first game is usually a Division Round Playoff game at home against a road weary team that has played the week before while the Patriots have had a bye. Their second game is the AFC Championship game either home or away. You see it’s really not that hard to make the Super Bowl (win 2 straight) or win the Super Bowl (win 3 straight). This is the advantage to playing in a division that for decades has been dreadful.

    Teams the Patriots beat OUTSIDE the division this season

    13-3 rams
    12-4 chiefs home
    12-4 chiefs away
    12-4 chargers
    12-4 bears
    11-5 Texans
    10-6 colts
    8-7 Vikings

    The Patriots BEAT more teams with a winning record than any other team this year and it wasn’t even close

    But yeah , they win because of the division

  27. jets2469 says:
    March 17, 2019 at 7:21 pm
    The pats have had a tremendous run even I abloyal die hard jets fan will bow down too that. But eventually it will end and every realistic person can see the writing on the wall. Brady is the best Belichick is the best the pats have been the best. It’s over now once one goes it will never be the same. Tylaw don’t matter how many picks you have once u lose the qb it’s OVER

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    nope

    as long as the krafts own the team and they build teams the way ybey have done, ne will never go sub .500.

    you don’t get it

    in the cap era, how you build teams is the key, not just developing a qb into a hof qb

    BB will draft a prospect he will spend everyday with like he did JimmyG and that qb will be better than any other young qb in the division.

  28. billsrthefuture says:
    March 17, 2019 at 7:57 pm
    Lol – I don’t know how anyone gets “Mark Sanchez 2.0” out of Darnold. I’m no Jets fan, but he is going to be a very good QB.

    Pats fans really have no idea what’s coming. Their team isn’t even developing a QB. Allen and Darnold will be battling for the division in the years to come.

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    lol!!!!

    your qb blows

    we have no idea what is coming? how about another conf title appearance and maybe another super bowl? how does that taste?

  29. How many teams will patriots play this year coming off bye weeks? Eagles played 4 last year. And every super bowl champ has played multiple teams coming off bye weeks except the Patriots. They’ve played 2 the last 3 seasons.

  30. So, davedsone brags that the Pats will win the division MANY times after Brady, based on basically nothing, but tells fans of other teams not to brag about winning anything until they do.

    Got it.

  31. “Never going sub .500” – that’s awesome.

    It will make the years ahead really enjoyable.

  32. No seriously. Then they beat your team you in a playoff game or the Super bowl.

    They didn’t beat my team. They got their butts stomped by the Steelers

  33. billsrthefuture says:
    March 17, 2019 at 6:18 pm
    This is based almost entirely on the past. The Pats will always be favored to win the division – until they don’t.

    42 year old QB who was declining last year, huge loss of talent, Bills and Jets both finding QBs and making good moves – Pats will have to earn it this year if they do win.

    They won’t. Last year was the swan song.

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    Another one? How many swan songs these guys gonna have geeez.

    What if these actually aren’t swan songs?

  34. The AFC east
    The Patriots, a great team and the rest of the AAC

    When Belichik and Brady are gone they too will become just as ordinary

  35. Yeah the haters cry how the AFC East is so easy yet the Patriots win out of their Division just as much. Add that it’s not and never has been the fault of NE that the other AFC East owners are complete morons.
    To the Bills fan who posted that Brady moved backwards last year…..do you need some more crack?

  36. Billsrthefuture
    Glad you have hope, but sorry to tell you that your team will never be the future of the AFC East. Keep hope alive though, you might beat the Jets next year.

  37. Judas it’s plain obvious that fans of other AFC East teams spend most of their time hating on the Patriots and with the time left that they’re not hating it’s dreaming that this may be the year their team actually might make the playoffs. Lmao

  38. billsrthefuture says:
    March 17, 2019 at 7:57 pm
    Lol – I don’t know how anyone gets “Mark Sanchez 2.0” out of Darnold. I’m no Jets fan, but he is going to be a very good QB.

    Pats fans really have no idea what’s coming. Their team isn’t even developing a QB. Allen and Darnold will be battling for the division in the years to come.

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    Whats coming is a talented young qb struggling because of how his team is built and managed.

  39. Belichick has made the other 3 teams in the AFC E look (more) dysfunctional than they actually are. The guy knows how to put a gameplan together based on what the opposition has to offer.

  40. Nofoolnodrool says:
    March 17, 2019 at 8:23 pm

    No seriously. Then they beat your team you in a playoff game or the Super bowl.

    They didn’t beat my team. They got their butts stomped by the Steelers
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    Congratulations on that super-important, season-changing regular season win.

  41. billsrthefuture says:
    March 17, 2019 at 8:11 pm
    “Never going sub .500” – that’s awesome.

    It will make the years ahead really enjoyable.

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    As long as they are run under their current business model its very probable they will not go under .500. Brady and Belichick are a difference to be sure, but what they are is the difference between that business model being a constant playoff presence and that business model being in the Superbowl literally half the seasons played and .666 when they get there. So when Brady and Belichick ate gone, and if no one comes along that constantly puts them over the top like that, they will still ride that business model into the playoffs most or all years. Since the business model comes from tne Kraft family and succession is well underway and going smoothly, that business model looks like its not going away anytime soon.

  42. John Johnson – gonna be fun to see how you react to the inevitable.

    It’s like people here have never watched sports. I suppose every fan of a dynasty thought it would last forever.

    Hasn’t happened yet.

  43. It’s funny how everybody except Pats fans, seems to think it’as over…..sorry but you are all 4 Allens, 6 Donalds and 8 Fitzmagic from being no 1 in the AFC East…you should all root for the Saints….at least you get to the NCC champ game….lokl

  44. no1billsfan says:
    March 17, 2019 at 8:42 pm
    Belichick has made the other 3 teams in the AFC E look (more) dysfunctional than they actually are. The guy knows how to put a gameplan together based on what the opposition has to offer
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    Dolphins hire staff from their rivals in which coaches have failed miserably. Let best olineman walk to free agency, cut second best olineman who was due 5 million. How is that not dysfunctional?

  45. This tripe about how weak the AFC East is tired and has been prove statistically false. The Pats record against the three other is about the same W/L % as the Pats against the rest of the league. And if you take away what the Pats have done to these teams , they are about .500 against the rest of the NFL. While there are year to year fluctuations, I’m not sure which divisions are much better. NFC East?North? South? West? AFC West? North? South? They all have one better team and at least two weak ones, and a mediocre one. Of course Fitzmagic in Miami could change everything!

  46. All three of the other AFC East teams always give the Pats a run for their money. In the playoffs,they beat the Chargers,then they beat the Chiefs,IN KANSAS CITY,and not because of a coin flip. Lastly,they knocked off the Rams in the Super Bowl. I think they are heavily favored with good reason.

  47. Remember when Rex Ryan took the Jets to the afc championship game twice in a row? Yeah… it was nice when at least one other team in this division even pretended to try.

    Exile a guy because he talks too much. Hilarious. Bills finally get a QB that takes them to the playoffs… exile him too! Hilarious.

    This is why The NFL and all sports should do away with divisions and conferences. There’s no good argument for them… just “this is how it’s always been.”

  48. Can anyone describe the Kraft “business model” that ensures future success?

    Is it hire the greatest coach if all time, and have him draft the greatest QB of all time?

    It sounds easy enough, I guess…

  49. Hopefully the next decade will be one of the Chiefs and Browns(Greatest fan bases) dominating the AFC!

  50. 10,000 to 1 odds? Why wouldn’t you throw 10 bucks on that to win 1000. Its football, Brady could get hurt in the year and Darnold and Allen are guarenteed to improve. Odds are it won’t happen, but its only to win the AFC East not the superbowl.

  51. Not only have they won 15 of 16, but going back to 2001 — 2001 to 2018 — the Brady-led Patriots (scratch 2008 due to injury) failed to win the division only once (2002) and they lost that on a tiebreaker. Come to think of it they lost 2008 on a tiebreaker too. In all those years the Patriots won as many games as any other AFCE team. This is true even when you include the postseason, since the Fins lost its divisional rounder to Baltimore in 2008 and the Jets lost to the Raiders in 2002.

  52. I think we are having this discussion at least until 2021.

    The best thing the Patriots did in the last week was not overpaying for their own players or anyone else’s.

  53. billsrthefuture says:
    March 17, 2019 at 6:18 pm
    This is based almost entirely on the past. The Pats will always be favored to win the division – until they don’t.

    42 year old QB who was declining last year, huge loss of talent, Bills and Jets both finding QBs and making good moves – Pats will have to earn it this year if they do win.

    They won’t. Last year was the swan song.

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    Maybe or maybe not, but one thing is certain. The Bills are not the future.

  54. billsrthefuture says:
    March 17, 2019 at 8:55 pm
    John Johnson – gonna be fun to see how you react to the inevitable.

    It’s like people here have never watched sports. I suppose every fan of a dynasty thought it would last forever.

    Hasn’t happened yet.

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    Patriots fans know it won’t last forever, but we want it to last forever and will be happy as long as it does last.

    Predicting the end of it doesn’t take any skill.

  55. billsrthefuture says:
    March 17, 2019 at 8:00 pm
    Patfanken- that’s not a good argument.

    Pats have been great – but it is not disputable that they have benefitted from historic ineptitude on the part of their division foes.

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    That is true of the Bills for sure. They have been historically inept.

    More so then any other AFC team but the Browns. They really just have stunk badly.

  56. With 6 picks in the 1st 3 rounds this year, and 5 picks in the 1st 3 rounds next year, plus a 1st and 2nd rounder coming off I.R. this year, the Patriots will have a quarter of their roster under 22 y.o. and $98M in cap space for the 2020 season. Another decade of dominance in the making. Book it.

  57. The Patriots’ roster is not as glitzy as most teams. But they will find ways to win. They were most vulnerable last year and yet they bounced back and won the big prize. This year they look very, very, vulnerable again with their core coaches migrating to the Dolphins and not getting star players. Haters are again proclaiming their demise. Just wish they bet big money against the Patriots.

  58. The other three teams in that division should be sold to new owners. How in the hell do their fans continue to support teams that don’t even try to win. Losing and banking TV dollars isn’t the objective.

  59. Nobody with a straight face can say NE hasn’t benefited from being in a trash division. Nobody. That’s a fact.

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    terripet says:
    March 17, 2019 at 6:21 pm
    Play in the weakest division every year

    ……….

    And then beat the champions of every other division to win the title

  61. The Jets just added 3 huge pieces. We’ll see. Brady looked horrible in that Super bowl.

  62. Do you some of you people ever think that it’s the Pats that make that division look so weak? I mean they do knock off the best the AFC has to offer on their yearly trip to the SB! So it isn’t like they only play the weak AFC East to get there and then 1/2 the time they beat the best the NFC has to offer also, so the idea that it’s just because they play in a weak division doesn’t hold water!

  63. The Patriots are “the measuring stick” and we just beat them so We like our chances said almost every team that beat the Patriots and were never heard from again.
    Teams that lost to the Patriots in the playoffs.. “we will be back”.. Umm no…
    Falcons even “embraced the suck” and trained with the navy seals… Ummm no.
    Eagles won and said this is the “new normal”.. Ummm no
    Raiders, cowboys, jaguars.. 13-3 one year.. Bottom the next

    This is our year every hater says and then they say “Patriots again”.
    When Brady and BB retire that is not going to make your teams not tie or lose to bad teams. It will not help in making the playoffs. Just ask the teams that beat the Patriots last year because it did not help when they were STILL HERE.

  64. The World Champion Patriots went 7-0 against playoff teams in 2018. I repeat. The World Champion Patriots were SEVEN AND OH against playoff teams in 2018. I think that can stand on its own merit. 🙂

    Are the Patriots the only consistently great team in the AFC East? Yes. Is a weak division the biggest reason why the Patriots are consistently successful? Absolutely not. Would the Patriots be consistently successful in any other division? There is no reason whatsoever to think they wouldn’t be. The evidence is overwhelming and it’s conclusive and there is nothing to dispute here.

    Carry on. 🙂

  65. Steve Cunningham says:
    March 18, 2019 at 8:55 am
    Do you some of you people ever think that it’s the Pats that make that division look so weak? I mean they do knock off the best the AFC has to offer on their yearly trip to the SB! So it isn’t like they only play the weak AFC East to get there and then 1/2 the time they beat the best the NFC has to offer also, so the idea that it’s just because they play in a weak division doesn’t hold water!
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    7-0 against playoff teams in 2018. Nuff said.

    That renders any weak division argument completely null and void. 🙂

  66. dumbaseinstein says:
    March 17, 2019 at 8:48 pm
    Just out of curiosity, is there a division that they Patriots do NOT dominate?

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    The Brady-led Patriots aren’t quite as successful against the AFC West compared to other divisions, but that’s basically courtesy of one team – the Denver Broncos.

  67. billsrthefuture says:
    March 17, 2019 at 7:57 pm
    Lol – I don’t know how anyone gets “Mark Sanchez 2.0” out of Darnold. I’m no Jets fan, but he is going to be a very good QB.
    Pats fans really have no idea what’s coming. Their team isn’t even developing a QB. Allen and Darnold will be battling for the division in the years to come.

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    Darnold will be good. But the Jets right now aren’t really. I’m skeptical that Bell will have the impact that he did with Pitt. I wouldn’t put Darnold in the class of QB that can carry a team.

    The jury is out on Allen. He had a miserable rookie season but historically many franchise rookie QBs have issues in their first year. They tend to take a huge step forward in their second season. We’ll find out how good he really is this coming season. If it’s another year like this one – he won’t be long in Buffalo.

  68. Lawrence Jahn says:
    March 18, 2019 at 5:37 am
    The Jets just added 3 huge pieces. We’ll see. Brady looked horrible in that Super bowl.

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    If by “horrible” you mean like a SB winning QB then you’re right. 🙂

    Don’t be shocked if and when Bell is a colossal bust with the Jets. His hesitating style won’t translate well away from the Steelers OL. Darnold is also not Ben.

  69. Robert37 says:
    March 17, 2019 at 9:48 pm
    Hopefully the next decade will be one of the Chiefs and Browns(Greatest fan bases) dominating the AFC!
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    Don’t be shocked when neither team makes the playoffs this year.

  70. Until someone knocks them off pats deserve too be big time favorites. But when they do get knocked off their not getting back and that will happen sooner than later. They will fall from grace one of these years…
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    Said by every other team’s fans since 2004.

  71. The Patriots have had two periods in franchise history when they were not competitive. The period when the two leagues merged and the period of ownership insecurity after the Sullivan’s financial collapse. That’s about it, 1967-1975 and 1989-1993. in those two periods totaling 14 seasons the Patriots didn’t have a single winning season. In the other 45 years of Patriots history they have only 5 losing seasons.

    When one considers that NE is in an almost bullet proof financial situation with a family poised to own the team into it’s second generation along with the simple fact that no league is on the horizon capable of merging with the NFL the chances that NE will fall into similar periods of abject failure seems remote at best.

  72. Pats fans who were around before BB seldom talk like the Patriots had some long, proud winning tradition before BB.

    There really isn’t anything inherent in the organization or even in the current ownership to indicate that this run is anything but an anomaly – the product of incredibly good fortune in having the goat coach and QB at the same time.

  73. The patriots are doing just fine this offseason. Platers have been resigned, free agents have been signed a trade has been made. They have plenty of draft stock in this years draft and there will be plenty more in next years draft.They will also sign a undrafted free agent with a little skill.

  74. billsrthefuture says:
    March 18, 2019 at 2:23 pm
    Pats fans who were around before BB seldom talk like the Patriots had some long, proud winning tradition before BB.

    There really isn’t anything inherent in the organization or even in the current ownership to indicate that this run is anything but an anomaly – the product of incredibly good fortune in having the goat coach and QB at the same time.
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    So much truth to that statement but 98% of Pats fans didn’t exist before 2001. If they were so die hard then why did the team threaten to move out of New England and why did they have a 17 game black out streak?

  75. I don’t think you’ll find a single Jets fan who thinks they are winning the division this year lol. I do believe Darnold will be good if you watched any of his games against top 10 defenses he was actually statistically better than Baker in those games and he went 3-4 while Mayfield went 3-3. The Jets made minor improvements outside of Bell that I think will benefit Darnold like Osemele who needs to be in a power blocking scheme which Frank Pollack the OL coach of the Jets runs, and Jamison Crowder in the slot will either be left 1 on 1 or drawing coverage off of Enunwa/Anderson. Compare Darnold’s rookie year at 21 to Matt Stafford’s (who had megatron I might add) and you’ll see he had a good season, if not standard for a 21 year old. You can have your opinion on him but Bell’s presence alone benefit’s Darnold as defenses have to account for him as a WR as well which will either leave a clear running situation or a stacked box with all receivers getting 1 on 1’s. The Jets contracts this offseason are also easy to get out of if everything goes wrong lol. Allen is a tough sell for me but there is a chance. The Pats also will be winning the division in 2019.

  76. billsrthefuture says:
    March 17, 2019 at 6:18 pm
    This is based almost entirely on the past. The Pats will always be favored to win the division – until they don’t.

    42 year old QB who was declining last year, huge loss of talent, Bills and Jets both finding QBs and making good moves – Pats will have to earn it this year if they do win.

    They won’t. Last year was the swan song.
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    This just in …

    Hope isn’t a strategy. 🙂

  77. The age old AFC Least retorts. LOL

    When the team is north of 11 wins perennially they are beating up on teams outside of that division as well. The Pats aren’t 9-7 chumps like some of the other weaker divisions. You could put them in any division and expect similar results. Their out of division and out of conference record supports the argument. Aisle 7 is where the tissues are located. 🙂

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