Cardinals having private meeting with Kyler Murray

AP

See, we told you it didn’t matter that the Cardinals skipped Oklahoma’s Pro Day.

According to Aaron Wilson of the Houston Chronicle, Oklahoma quarterback and possible first overall pick Kyler Murray is meeting with Cardinals coach Kliff Kingsbury and General Manager Steve Keim near campus today.

Whether they watched his scripting throwing routine with all the rest of the scouts matters far less than what they hear from him in meetings such as this one, as the Cardinals decide if they want to set fire to last year’s first-rounder (and the stuff they traded to get to Josh Rosen) and start over with a new rookie savior.

Murray will likely have a number of such meetings with teams in the top range of the draft, but only the Cardinals have the power to make the rest of them moot.

64 responses to “Cardinals having private meeting with Kyler Murray

  1. I can’t imagine any team totally skipping the pro days of any major college program. Sure the GM might not have made it but there had to have been a scout. Just like when Bama holds theirs, you don’t miss seeing all the players there. If they truly did skip it, well the Cardinals personnel department is really as bad as one that would trade up one year for a QB than take one with the top pick the next that isn’t even a slam dunk prospect.

  2. Ummm there is no new boss? the boss is the same boss it has been for while. Steve Keim

    Murf in Southie says:
    March 19, 2019 at 2:30 pm
    New boss is going to bring in the guys he wants. Happens everywhere, not just in sports.

  3. I give.

    No one else in the world knows more about the draft and draft prospects than PFT. Kyler Murray is already better than Johnny Unitas, Dan Marino, John Elway, Otto Graham, Phil Simms, Ryan Leaf, Peyton Manning, Brett Favre, Warren Moon, Clint Toon, Joe Montana, Skippy the Garbageman and Andrew Luck right now. Before the end of the 2019 season, we will all quit our jobs to watch Kyler Murray’s social media accounts 24-7.

    All kidding aside, it’s obvious everyone is in the tank for Murray. Let’s see if he can live up to it.

  4. At this point, they need to dump Rosen. They’ve basically destroyed his authority with the team. Can’t open flirt with a new girlfriend and then go back to the old one.

  5. Rosen should just keep quiet, play his ass off and really stick it to everyone. But I doubt it will happen.

  6. What a dysfunctional organization wasting the 10th overall pick last year to trade him for a 2nd or 3rd rd pick this year. Just really shows you how clueless some front offices can be.

  7. Draft him and he can fight it out with Rosen in OTA’s, training camp and pre-season. Then…trade one of them down the road.

  8. They can’t accept less than a first round pick for Rosen. The Giants, Dolphins, Broncos, Raiders, Chargers, Patriots, Redskins and probably more would take him in the first round in this draft if they could.

    Lots of franchise QBs had bad rookie years.

  9. Can’t open flirt with a new girlfriend and then go back to the old one.
    ———-
    Says who?

  10. The Cardinals are making a serious or rather a series of errors: undermining Josh Rosen’s confidence, passing up on Nick Bosa to take a QB who can always bail to play baseball and despite measurement claims probably can’t hold up for an entire 16 games of hits in the NFL.

    I mean, if all this is a headfake to get a team in love with Kyler Murray to trade up then it makes sense but still does damage. If all this is legit than the Cardinals are being run by a bunch of crazies.

    Either, way…it isn’t a good look.

  11. I really hope they pick this guy, my worst fear is he makes it to spot 4 and gruden cant help himself.

  12. I could easily see a scenario in which the Cardinals draft Murray and trade Rosen to the Redskins for a third round pick. If that happens, the Skins would be an instant Super Bowl contender with Rosen, Guice, AP, Reed, DK Metcalf and Bama Boys (Allen, Payne, Foster, Hamilton, Collins, Anderson) on D. This developing story bears monitoring.

  13. If Murray is the Cardinals choice, Miami needs to do whatever it takes to get Rosen on their roster.

  14. feckyerlife says:
    March 19, 2019 at 2:38 pm
    Ummm there is no new boss? the boss is the same boss it has been for while. Steve Keim

    Murf in Southie says:
    March 19, 2019 at 2:30 pm
    New boss is going to bring in the guys he wants. Happens everywhere, not just in sports.

    Pretty sure he is talking about the new head coach (who is the boss of the players) wanting to bring in his own guys.

  15. While it would be foolish to abandon Rosen after one year behind a terrible offensive line, it would be smart to give the public appearance of wanting Murray first overall.

    That makes the Cardinals, not the 49ers, Jets, or Raiders, the team to call for a chart-busting trade offer. If someone is going to get a king’s ransom for a QB trade at the top of the draft, the Cards want to make sure it’s them.

  16. Can’t open flirt with a new girlfriend and then go back to the old one.

    Hmm. Bon Jovi flirted with and went with Diane Lane after his romance with his high school sweetheart Dorethea ended. After he broke up with Diane Lane a year later he went back out with his high school sweetheart Doreathea and later married Dorethea. They’re still married 25 years plus later.

  17. to rkt4mayor: Murray will choose the NFL if chosen number 1 because as the number 1 pick he will make more money right now than playing for a small scrap in the A’s minor league system. Its all about making the money in the here and now. He will choose football.

  18. Kudos to the Cardinals if they are truly willing to discard the mistakes of the past (however recent they may be) in order to upgrade their propensity for success in the future.

    I just had the experience of watching the new regime at One Bills Drive flush out the supposedly-great talent “of the present” in favor of building their plan for the future, and so far, I’ve got no complaints. They seem to have a solid plan in place at ALL levels of the organization (for the first time since GM John Butler left for SD in the 90’s).

  19. The 49ers are in a great position. If the Cardinals pick Murray, the 49ers can pick any player they want next. If they do not and they pick, say, Bosa, then the 49ers can trade down and get more picks (e.g. if the Dolphins or Buffalo wants to trade up to get Murray).

  20. Lets face it from the Cardinals games I watched last season and i can’t ever recall Josh Rosen doing something that made me open my eyes wide and said: “there is something there just add some more pieces”. If he wasn’t throwing the ball into the ground he was whisking it out of the reach of the receivers and since he is a STATUE he predictably got eaten up by the Defense because of his inability to extend plays with his feet.

    I just don’t get who would object in upgrading the most important position on the field by bringing in a QB who has actually won something in College. This is not the case of replacing some HEISMAN WINNER or some eye-popping blue-chip talent.

    I have said it before if Sports Teams ran themselves like a lot of Fortune 500 Companies they would not be in losing situations year after year. GM”s in Sports play this STUBBORN game of wanting to be RIGHT so bad especially when drafting certain players instead of being flexible/PRAGMATIC.

  21. Bidwell is so like Jerry Jones. They are both egotistical fools. Bidwell is taking meetings with a midget quarterback while Jones is hiring old, failed t.v. announcers to play tight ends. Man, I could easily see the Cowboys and AZ battling to the bottom next season. Bad owners making bad off-seasons decision beget bad seasons.

  22. Rosen will win a SB with the Pats before the Cards reach one !!!
    And then Kingsbury will go back to college and coach at Wofford…
    Keim will then also e fired and end up selling real estate

  23. Not a Rosen fan by any means, he is a punk. But he had little help last year in Dead Bird Land. The entire OL was gone. His only receiver was 35 year old Fitzs. Anyway, this is a huge step backwards for the Cards. Keim is gone.

  24. After struggling in his first two seasons in AZ, Kyler achieves considerable success … at shortstop.

  25. boltbacktosd says:
    “private meeting.” All over the internet.
    ==

    I think perhaps you don’t know the difference between “private” and “secret.”
    Private just meets it’s him meeting with the Cardinals one-on-one, with no other teams or other parties invited. It doesn’t mean covert, hence the fact that it being “all over the internet” is utterly irrelevant. It’s still private.

  26. Winners: Kyler Murray, Erik Burkhardt, Oklahoma athletic department recruiting.

    Losers: NFL team that drafts Murray. Oakland A’s.

    Getting the guaranteed money that a #1 NFL draft pick gets is too much to pass up, and you have to get it while the hype is good. Flame out of the NFL after a few years and still be in great shape to get that baseball money. Get paid and not even have to bat .200.

    A’s wasted the 9th pick with great prospects available. Sure, theyll have his rights if they want to trade him when he comes back to baseball, but miss out on prime developmental years while he’s in the NFL.

    What NFL fanbase is actually in favor of their team drafting Murray? I don’t really know. I see a lot of fans hoping some other team drafts him.

    Going to be interesting to see how this plays out, because we might not see another situation like this anytime soon.

  27. “See, we told you it didn’t matter that the Cardinals skipped Oklahoma’s Pro Day.”
    ==============================

    The Cards not showing up is the worst smokescreen they can think up. The Cardinals are the dream wealthy opponent you’d love to have sitting across from you at the poker table.

  28. BuckyBadger says:
    March 19, 2019 at 2:34 pm
    I can’t imagine any team totally skipping the pro days of any major college program. Sure the GM might not have made it but there had to have been a scout. Just like when Bama holds theirs, you don’t miss seeing all the players there. If they truly did skip it, well the Cardinals personnel department is really as bad as one that would trade up one year for a QB than take one with the top pick the next that isn’t even a slam dunk prospect.

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    Cleveland didn’t attend Baker Mayfields pro day. If you already know who you want what exactly is going to happen at a pro day that you didn’t already see in games and the combine and the senior bowl etc.

  29. The real talent in this draft is defense, especially line. Niners will be ecstatic for him to go at 1

  30. The shameless promotion and protection of Murray continues. Still haven’t figured out why this prospect is so special. Why he needs this level of hype. And why other prospects (i.e. Haskins) are getting virtually ignored.

  31. Absolutely love watching these organizations being run like a ten year old runs a lemonade stand.

    Signed,

    A pats fan

  32. If the Cards really follow through on this they deserve to bottom-feed for the next 5 years.

  33. itsunclepauley says:
    March 19, 2019 at 3:13 pm
    While it would be foolish to abandon Rosen after one year behind a terrible offensive line, it would be smart to give the public appearance of wanting Murray first overall.

    That makes the Cardinals, not the 49ers, Jets, or Raiders, the team to call for a chart-busting trade offer. If someone is going to get a king’s ransom for a QB trade at the top of the draft, the Cards want to make sure it’s them.

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    That is exactly what Arizona is doing. Arizona is playing the draft season game, this is lying season. Keim controls the draft and is doing all he can to drive up the value and trade interest in the #1 overall pick he currently owns with multiple needing a QB and it already being leaked that both the Giants and Miami stayed late into the night in Norman to work Murray out privately in a private meeting last week at his Pro Day.

    AZ is not shipping Josh Rosen, they havent even responded to teams inquiring about Rosen telling them he’s not on the market. Keim does not have the job security to be taking another QB 1st overall, AZ cannot afford to draft Murray as they’d be tying up over $30M+ in cap space in the QB position if they drafted KM while eating the multiple picks they spent on Josh Rosen not even 12 months ago while costing themselves the chance at an Elite Defensive prospect or the chance at trading the pick for several picks which AZ cannot afford to do right now. It just isnt going to happen. There also is the Rich Eisen report out there who reported he talked To Josh Rosen’s camp and they said do not listen to all the Murray hype it isnt happening, reporting they’ve talked to Josh Rosen privately and told him the off-season game plan. Which is exactly what the owner said publically on PHX Sports Radio when he said that Josh Rosen is a smart guy and he knows every year they are draft rumors they never end up coming to fruition on draft day, saying Josh Rosen is his guy and the guy his team will build around saying AZ has a great young foundation in place to build around and Josh Rosen is a big part of that foundation. GM Steve Keim has said Josh Rosen is his guy and he’s very comfortable going into the future knowing Josh Rosen is the Cardinals starting QB, Kliff Kingsbury has said several times Josh Rosen is his guy and has the “Keys to the castle in AZ” when it comes to his offense and as the leader of the team.

    Arizona is shopping that pick in order to add multiple premium picks in the top 3 rounds they can use to build up their offense around Josh Rosen with. Teams like the Raiders, Giants, Phins, Skins all could trade up for that pick. AZ’s defense is loaded going into 2019 it is clear they plan on playing great defense keeping the scores down and them in games allowing them to spend the majority of their draft capital on offense, particularly the skill positions with a much improved offensive line in place. They wont take Murray, Josh Rosen is the guy in AZ.

  34. granadafan says:
    March 19, 2019 at 4:11 pm
    “See, we told you it didn’t matter that the Cardinals skipped Oklahoma’s Pro Day.”
    ==============================

    The Cards not showing up is the worst smokescreen they can think up. The Cardinals are the dream wealthy opponent you’d love to have sitting across from you at the poker table.

    You must be a Pats fan. I smell “conspiracy” written all over that comment. You know, it is simply possible they just wanted a 1:1 with the guy? You know, make a decision what to do with the #1 pick. No, that couldn’t be it. That wouldn’t be worth commenting on.

  35. This is just Arizona letting the entire NFL know they have to deal with AZ if they want to draft Kyler Murray, letting the league know they’re open for business and there is a price to pay if they want KM. What the price is none of us know, but several reasons AZ wont be taking Kyler Murray, one being GM Steve Keim cannot afford to set the team back another season costing them another year of building, another year wasted of their players primes as Murray is likely to struggle. Keim wont be around to enjoy the fruits of Murray’s growth as a player if he makes that pick because he will be fired when AZ eneviatably struggles, Keim doesnt have the leverage built up with his owner or the goodwill to last another season of struggles in AZ.
    Steve Keim wants to trade that pick and keep the league guessing what AZ is going to do on draft day with no one sure which way AZ is going, and he is doing a tremendous job at doing it. Keim wants to trade that pick for multiple picks, adding atleast an extra 1st and 3rd they’d get in a trade back say OAK or NY if they moved up that he could use to build up his offense around Josh Rosen with. AZ is very high on Josh Rosen, the consensus in the scouting community is that Josh Rosen would be the #1 overall pick in this years draft by a mile and that Rosen will be a better NFL QB long-term than Murray will be, Keim knows that and isnt going to downgrade himself at the QB position. And if Kingsbury doesnt work out for some reason, Josh Rosen fits any coach’s offense in the league they’d bring in as a replacement, Murray does not and Murray at 5″9 and a play weight of 190 is much more of an injury risk. Keim is a traditionalist when it comes to QB’s and is sky high on Josh Rosen, he wont take Murray . If he cannot trade the pick they take either DE Nick Bosa or DT Quinnen Williams both of whom would take an already pretty loaded defense to the next level.

  36. wholebuncharings says:
    March 19, 2019 at 4:25 pm
    Absolutely love watching these organizations being run like a ten year old runs a lemonade stand.

    Signed,

    A pats fan
    ==================================

    That’s one smart 10yr old then . When Arizona ends up trading the top pick on draft day for a couple more premium picks no one will be saying what they’re doing is stupid and guys like yourself will be nowhere to be found.

  37. It looks like foregone conclusion the Cardinals will take him. I say bring Rosen to the Patriots, so he can take over from Brady after this year. Win win for all parties.

  38. He is retiring from football today. 12yrs $430m for trout, seriously what is the salary floor? 20m per to NOT get chased by monsters?

  39. I admit it’s possible he will be “the man” but honestly, this fascination and hype for Murray remind me of the Johnny Football farce. Yeah, I know the two aren’t the same, but the pre-draft hype machine is sure similar.

  40. Where are all these mini GMs who said AZ would never draft Murray 3 weeks ago? I told you Rosen jerseys are 70% off down here. If that isn’t writing on the wall, I don’t know what is!

  41. It works great for us, after the Cards waste a 1st rounder on Hornswoggle, the Raiders can swap their last 1st for the Cards 2nd and take Rosen off their hands to groom for a debut in Las Vegas in 2020.

  42. When Arizona ends up trading the top pick on draft day for a couple more premium picks no one will be saying what they’re doing is stupid and guys like yourself will be nowhere to be found.

    No one is going to trade multiple “premium” picks for him, not when they can wait a year to get a better talent. If he happens to fall to someone that wants him, then sure, they will take him. Give up extra high picks? No way.

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