Robert Kraft receives conditional offer to drop Florida charges

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Patriots owner Robert Kraft could have solicitation of prostitution charges against him dropped, with one key condition: He needs to admit that, if the charges hadn’t been dropped, prosecution would have resulted in a conviction.

That’s the latest report from Andrew Beaton of the Wall Street Journal regarding Kraft’s Palm Beach County legal entanglement. The criminal charges will go away if Kraft makes that admission, if he completes an education course about prostitution, if he performs 100 hours of community service, if he’s screened for STDs, and if he pays some of the court costs.

It’s unclear whether Kraft will accept the offer, and it’s unclear whether the agreement (if accepted) would result in a violation of the NFL’s Personal Conduct Policy. It’s possible if not likely that admitting hypothetical guilt under undisputed facts would result in a finding by the Commissioner that punishment is required under the Personal Conduct Policy.

Questions have emerged regarding the viability of the prosecution, including whether the evidence shows actual solicitation of sex in exchange for money. Although the broader investigation was sparked by concerns regarding human trafficking, court documents show that Kraft interacted with a 45-year-old manager of the spa and a 58-year-old spa employee, both of whom are Florida residents.

It will be interesting to see what happens if Kraft declines the offer, essentially telling the prosecutors that if they believe they can prove guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in court, they should go ahead and try. Indeed, if prosecutors were so confident of a victory, why would they offer this kind of a deal?

201 responses to “Robert Kraft receives conditional offer to drop Florida charges

  1. Like i stated in previous posts on this topic, they have nothing. Just being there isn’t a crime unless he was trespassing. They don’t have any sexual act on video. He will fight this and win.

  2. I would have to guess that PR and league punishment are FAR more important to him than whatever fine the courts will give him if found guilty. He’ll fight this one to the end.

  3. Indeed, if prosecutors were so confident of a victory, why would they offer this kind of a deal?

    Possibly because they realize he is a billionaire with a full compliment of millionaire lawyers who will do their best to make it drag on a great cost to the city, no to mention throw out every possible defense money can buy. Just a thought.

  4. There was no intercourse involved. Can we all just relax a little bit. Seems a bit of an overreach to even charge him with anything and i am not even a Pats fan. He paid for a massage service and got a massage service. Big deal – it happens more than most know.

  5. I just have a real hard time, maybe because I’m older, being worried about an old man wanting sex and getting it. The fact this place he went to was being run illegally we have no proof he knew that and I suspect he did not so he went in and got treated, big deal.

  6. “Indeed, if prosecutors were so confident of a victory, why would they offer this kind of a deal?”
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    Because they offer the same deal to every john that’s been busted for solicitation in Florida? I mean how hard is it for a former lawyer to look up previous charges of first-time offenders to see what the outcome was?

  7. Um… I think Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office was probably feeling pretty excited to appear on national TV for a couple days. But… they’re looking a little less competent and in control of this case every day since then. Kraft is always going to have a this mark on his reputation. Maybe he’s going to take some of these yokels down with him.These Palm Beach County cops conducted their investigation, planted camera in a private business, probably got hand jobs on the taxpayers’ dime, and then stand on their high horse condemning Johns for what appears to have been CONSENSUAL sex-work. Kraft’s lawyers are going to shred them to pieces.

  8. It seems like a decent offer. If he was a normal person, he’d be wise to take it. But if he agrees to this, he probably gets suspended for anywhere from eight games to a full season.

    He has top attorneys. They’ll get him something better.

  9. If found guilty he would receive the same punishment, except for a black mark on his record. He’s 77 and has a clean record. I don’t think he cares if he has a black mark. He will fight it unless Goodell tells him by accepting he won’t be punished by the league.

  10. Lived in FLorida the last 25 years. Kraft aside, the law structure down here is so corrupt its pathetic. They are so worried about human Trafficking, but putting up illegal cameras in massage parlors for up to 2 years at a time. The local cops raid the establishments, at the highest peak customer time and TAKE all the money as evidence, never returning the money, putting it with the police fund. The girls are released and continue on (they do NOTHING about the Human element of trafficking) They also do 12 to 24 month investigations of Strip clubs, using up to 12 policemen to enter the clubs, spend 10’s of thousands of dollars on the girls in hopes to get one or two of them to give a hand job or other sexual act. Do your research, Florida is THE most corrupt when it comes to entrapment. To legalize prostitution would take away millions of dollars collected and used by police here in Florida, it aint gonna happen. Most cops here start an average of 90k a year. One Orlando Sherriff had taken a Helicopter for himself as a payoff, he didnt want to give it back, they had to take him to court. He then was ready to spill the beans on all his buddies when they were going to fine him…… SO Kraft got a handjob, wow! So so pathetic.

  11. 10feethigher says:
    March 19, 2019 at 1:52 pm
    Like i stated in previous posts on this topic, they have nothing. Just being there isn’t a crime unless he was trespassing. They don’t have any sexual act on video. He will fight this and wiill

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    I swear I read they did install cameras to catch the guys coming in and only after they caught a few top people did they come forward with the fact this is all on tape. Gotcha.
    Ya they have him in the act to be sure or they would not have screwed with this guy.

  12. If he is so confident that he is innocent, they should release the video and let the public decide (not that I want to see it).

  13. “It’s possible if not likely that admitting hypothetical guilt under undisputed facts would result in a finding by the Commissioner that punishment is required under the Personal Conduct Policy.”
    =================================

    Multiple players have been charged with solicitation in the past few years and NONE of them has been punished under the Personal Conduct Policy.

    It would be unfair if an owner was suddenly punished for something players have gotten away with.

  14. The cops spied on the place for 6 months, they weren’t concerned about the women ( who were in there mid 40’s and later 50’s AND owned the place), they used them to try and ensnare people. If they cared so much, they would have busted the place after the first reported incident. The fake outrage about human trafficking was and is typical today, sadly.

  15. The DA in Florida got what they wanted anyway embarrass someone in the court of public opinion. The whole thing is ridiculous.

  16. They offered it to remind him that perhaps they DO have video of him getting a hand job and paying someone for it. (Fight it, and TMZ will have it tomorrow.)
    They offered it to show that in their town, even if you are rich, you’re still going to have to pay for whatever crime, whether misdemeanor or felony, you commit.
    And it wouldn’t surprise me that they offered it because they do have the proof, and some up and coming DA wants to make a name for himself by proving that Kraft did it.
    Whether anyone cares about any of this is of no consequence.

  17. dsigrey says:
    March 19, 2019 at 1:52 pm
    Nope, he’s not going to take conditions. He will get the case dropped completely or he will beat the case.
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    Great, who cares? But he still did it.

  18. akula55 says:
    March 19, 2019 at 1:54 pm
    Indeed, if prosecutors were so confident of a victory, why would they offer this kind of a deal?

    Possibly because they realize he is a billionaire with a full compliment of millionaire lawyers who will do their best to make it drag on a great cost to the city, no to mention throw out every possible defense money can buy. Just a thought.

    ———

    Exactly. Another reason the rich can buy their way out of trouble.

  19. NO WAY he even entertains this offer. The State has a weak case even if they have a case AT ALL. This is why they offered the ‘deal’. Krafts lawyers will enjoy embarrasing the police and DA.

  20. I’ve got a bridge to sell this guy.

    hagemeisterpark920 says:
    There was no intercourse involved. Can we all just relax a little bit. Seems a bit of an overreach to even charge him with anything and i am not even a Pats fan. He paid for a massage service and got a massage service…

  21. The real issue here is the human trafficking the massage parlor is alleged (and likely) conducting. Kraft is just collateral damage. His visits brought national publicity to an otherwise local case. Other clients have probably been offered similar deals.

  22. Exactly, pre trial diversion is offered to save on expenses related to a trial, Kraft as a privileged member of society will ultimately throw so much money at the Prosecution (dragging this out for months and months) that it would be not be cost effective. He will walk away from this with a slap on his wrist. So it will be up to the Commish to render some punishment.

  23. 😅 what happend all the human trafficking mumbo jumbo all this hype over 2 misdemeanors that now they wanna toss i feel bad for wasted tax payers money .

  24. The offer was made to more men than just Kraft. Also, the offer is extended in many cases of first time offenders. State Atty: “The offer of a deferred prosecution agreement with several conditions to first time offenders is standard in cases like this.”

    But, other than to avoid the trial aspect, why would he agree to this?

  25. “Indeed, if prosecutors were so confident of a victory, why would they offer this kind of a deal?”

    People like him always get deals. Watch how Harvey Weinstein get a deal or basically charges dropped.

  26. I hope Kraft fights this because they are abusing those sneak and peak warrants and trampling all over a persons right to privacy. If law enforcement wants they can claim that a gang related theft ring is operating at clothing stores, then put camera’s in the changing rooms, because that is where theft happens.

  27. akula55 says:
    March 19, 2019 at 1:54 pm
    Indeed, if prosecutors were so confident of a victory, why would they offer this kind of a deal?

    Possibly because they realize he is a billionaire with a full compliment of millionaire lawyers who will do their best to make it drag on a great cost to the city, no to mention throw out every possible defense money can buy. Just a thought.
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    Also because every DA’s office in America has standard plea offers exactly like this that allow defendants to avoid a criminal convictions if they have no prior criminal history and it is a non-violent offense.

  28. Indeed, if prosecutors were so confident of a victory, why would they offer this kind of a deal?

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    Very telling statement coming from a former well respected practicing attorney as yourself. The only caveat I can think of here is that Congress is in the process of going after the manager (a former Mar-a-lago employee) in obvious efforts to tie her wrongdoings to the POTUS. Don’t know if this is something to factor in or not?

  29. Ridiculous…Then you should have offered O.J. the same offer. What is this world coming to? If Kraft is guilty, then prosecute him like anyone in the United States. Innocent until proven guilty. Put him before a judge and let the burden of proof decide.

  30. Shocking that he would get a slap on the wrist. The prosecutors don’t want to press a larger case and ruin a bunch of rich men’s reputations. I can’t wait to see the signs from fans at Patriots road games. They are going to be brutal!

  31. court documents show that Kraft interacted with a 45-year-old manager of the spa and a 58-year-old spa employee
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    Interacted? Is that what they’re calling it?

  32. Hahaha … good one

    Like the incredibly rich guy will have to behave like an ordinary human being in this capitalist paradise.

  33. “ Indeed, if prosecutors were so confident of a victory, why would they offer this kind of a deal?”

    This kind of Alternative Measures/Pretrial Diversion program is nearly always offered to first-time offenders for minor offences throughout the U.S. and Canada.

    The 100 hours of community service is way, way over the top, zero to ten is normal (there is only so much work in the community that needs doing, it can sometimes be challenging just finding someone more than ten hours of work to do.) I expect that’s the premium he faces for being rich and famous.

  34. Whatever occurred was not “consensual” since she was essentially an indentured servant. Throw the book at him and anyone else who preys on vulnerable women to pleasure themselves. And besides, the dude is almost eighty…ewwww.

  35. Because it’s a misdemeanor. Plead out, comply with terms and it gets dismissed. Nothing new here and no point in clogging up the courts. For the DA it’s a conviction and for the defendant it’s a way to get the conviction dismissed if you follow through on your end. Deferred adjudication is nothing new in the criminal justice system.

  36. Just man up and admit it.. Most of us dont care about this stuff compared to the
    real problems in the country like open borders

  37. If they’re actually going after the sex traffickers, then it makes sense to offer deals to the johns. They’re not the target. Kraft was a way to get attention on the case.

    If he has to admit guilt though, does it really benefit him to take the deal? The damage is done at that point. He might as well spend the money to fight it and hope his lawyers can get him off. No pun intended.

  38. “10feethigher says:
    March 19, 2019 at 1:52 pm
    Like i stated in previous posts on this topic, they have nothing. Just being there isn’t a crime unless he was trespassing. They don’t have any sexual act on video. ”

    They actually do and it’s been described in detail. He was there, on two occasions and was filmed on both occasions under a legally executed warrant. He has been charged because such evidence has already been reviewed. The decision is on him whether to admit guilt and submit to the court’s offer or risk fighting it and having the embarrassing evidence brought forward in a public trial.

  39. It doesn’t sound like much of a deal. Not that I have one iota of sympathy for Kraft. Really, all I care about is that the bums who enslaved those women lose their own freedom.

  40. erle1139 says:
    March 19, 2019 at 2:21 pm
    Because it’s a misdemeanor. Plead out, comply with terms and it gets dismissed. Nothing new here and no point in clogging up the courts. For the DA it’s a conviction and for the defendant it’s a way to get the conviction dismissed if you follow through on your end. Deferred adjudication is nothing new in the criminal justice system

    ——

    Very true. DA and defense don’t even care if you are guilty or innocent. They tell you to plead out and it will disappear in a year. If you are a public defender and don’t convince your client to take a plea and it goes to trial, one too many times, you’re ass is through.

  41. It’s deflategate (framegate) all over again. Trial in the court of public opinion resulting from lies published as fact. All that evidence of human trafficking is evidently kept in the same vault as the 2015 PSI readings. Kraft should have his day in court and pay the misdemeanor fine indicated. What the NFL does is whatever the heck they feel like.
    He’s going to get something so screw the offer, which makes him sound worse BTW.

    Now, rich guys buy their way yadda yadda,

    I know plenty of low middle folks who take every angle they can. Get tickets fixed, get a better seat because you know a guy etc etc. whining about rich folks is jealousy. You’d do the same.

  42. daphne49er says:
    March 19, 2019 at 2:20 pm

    Whatever occurred was not “consensual” since she was essentially an indentured servant.
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    I guess you didn’t read the article?

  43. It’s a pre trial diversion offer. Pretty common for misdemeanor offenses if the person being charged doesn’t have a record. The report mentions several others charged in the case got the same offer.

    Wouldn’t surprise me if he takes it because all records get sealed if he completes the program. Taking it to trial would be risky because details might be made public.

  44. Does he know it’s on camera? Cheaters and scoundrals all of them, top to bottom with the Patriots. I have dirty dishes that are cleaner than the Patriots.

  45. Lonely old Fart with too much money to waste, the strip clubs are full of these type of guys every Tuesday night. He will end up paying his way out of this, no story here.

  46. Kraft is Rich! When you’re rich you use lawyers to do what they are being paid so handsomely for. From everything I’ve read the only video they have is of him interacting with a manager and a worker. He won’t be admitting to anything, nor should he.

  47. “Must be nice to be white and rich in this country. Completely different set of rules.”

    Its 2 misdemeanor charges, I don’t think in this case it particularly matters that he’s white or rich. They also apparently offered to same deal to all the people arrested in this sting, and no doubt they aren’t all white or rich.

    Which doesn’t make you wrong in other situations however. Just this one is so minor I don’t think it matters here.

  48. This case is even weaker than the whole Deflategate garbage. Fight it Bob, and then sue the hell out those showboating public officials for defamation.

  49. court documents show that Kraft interacted with a 45-year-old manager of the spa and a 58-year-old spa employee
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    Yuk. That alone should make the police drop all this nonsense.

  50. they made the offer because someone is getting paid A LOT of MONEY from a BILLIONAIRE…its not that hard to figure out…

  51. “Indeed, if prosecutors were so confident of a victory, why would they offer this kind of a deal?”
    ========================

    Maybe to spare those involved the viewing of the video tapes during a public trial?

  52. Wow. It is truly astounding how many people chime in with some air of authority when they know nothing whatsoever about the actual case and even less about the law. You clowns spend WAY too much time arguing with other clowns (who know even less) on Reddit. Good lord.

  53. Sounds like FL is looking for an Alford Plea. Seems pretty common in these cases. Saw a few of those around Seattle in a similar sting that took down quite a few people (couple local celebs) in 2017.

  54. superpatriotsfan says:
    March 19, 2019 at 2:08 pm
    Admitting to guilt goes against the Patriot Way.
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    I seem to remember BB admitting filming from a wrong location in the first quarter of the first game of the season. How is that not admitting guilt. You are such a crybaby.

    steelcurtainn says:
    March 19, 2019 at 2:25 pm
    It’s called pay them money like most of his sb wins.
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    Like you Steelers players/ownership paying for all those steroids to win SBs. Funny that when your steroid Dr. Rydze is no longer on the payroll the Steelers have not won another SB.

  55. First, I wonder if everyone else arrested gets this offer, or is it another case of rich people getting off whereas normal people pay
    Second, yes, there was video of him getting oral and a handy. It’s on tape, the police even stated that.
    Thirdly, pretty sad patriot fans instead of being upset are trying to find excuses. But then again, most of them probably think it’s ok for govt leaders to act like spoiled brats too. Very hypocritical since these fans have buried other players and owners for much less

  56. You have to laugh at the comments that especially after reading this article that says the prosecutors offered Kraft a deal to drop the charges because they may not have evidence to convict where people think this is reason he should give in? Stupidity is reaching new levels lately.

  57. No prior record, gainfully employed taxpayer gets a simple make a misdemeanor go away deal and the internet rabble think it’s about his color or his wallet rather than business as usual. Why is it so hard for people to understand more often than not a cigar is just a cigar?

  58. Human trafficking… the women were 48 and 54, both US Citizens, both licensed masseuses. They were both in fact friends with Kraft, hell one was at Trump’s Super Bowl party. Hardly seems like a big human trafficking thing going on here.

    Legalize sex for pay and you will make a dent in trafficking, but the focus should be on the kids that are forced into it. Those kids will never be giving massages in some parlor on the strip.

  59. Seems to me the Palm Beach PD has dug in a bit too deep to make an offer like this.

    Kraft’s image and reputation were tarnished from the moment the police announced the charges. Say what you will for due process of law…..in the court of public opinion, he’s already been convicted and found guilty. The only way to preserve his reputation is to prove that he had no involvement or was unjustly accused; accepting this offer would eliminate that opportunity.

    Accepting this offer would be tantamount to a guilty plea with no jail time. Since his guilt is already assumed by the general public, it seems to me he stands to lose very little by fighting the charges in court.

  60. thebirdofprey says:
    March 19, 2019 at 2:29 pm
    But this sexual deviant on the predator list. Abuses human trafficking victims and gets defended by fans.
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    From what I have read, only one person was charged with trafficking and that charge was thrown out. IMO, the whole operation was a huge waste of DHS, ICE, Local PD resources and tax payer dollars.

  61. For me it’s simple. If he takes the deal he’s guilty. If he doesn’t and he elects to go to court, that would seem to me the evidence isn’t as solid as some people think. In that scenario I would defer to the decision of the court.

    One advantage he has is he gets to avoid the Goodell kangaroo court and have it dealt with people in a position to do so.

  62. This is an example that shows most criminal charges do not result in trials. Trials are expensive, costing tens of thousands of dollars even for a short trial. It would bankrupt many jurisdictions if all charges end up in trials.

  63. “Indeed, if prosecutors were so confident of a victory, why would they offer this kind of a deal?”

    You can’t be that naive, can you ?
    If you are wealthy enough, and have the complexion and the connections, there isn’t much you can’t get away with in this country. Just ask Jeffrey Epstein.

  64. No prior record, gainfully employed taxpayer gets a simple make a misdemeanor go away deal and the internet rabble think it’s about his color or his wallet rather than business as usual. Why is it so hard for people to understand more often than not a cigar is just a cigar?

    You could have saved time by saying Let them eat cake…..another disgusting Northeastern Elitist Snob….very boring indeed.

  65. He needs to take this to court. He has a dream team of lawyers, this will be the trial of the century…The police won’t charge anyone after what Kraft’s team does.

  66. Mike, you should know why they make these offers. Prosecutorial resources. Why waste prosecutor time and court time with low level offenses for first-time offenders? It’s the most efficient way to have some consequences but also give the defendant a strong incentive to admit guilt.

  67. rpw84 says:
    March 19, 2019 at 2:14 pm
    Exactly, pre trial diversion is offered to save on expenses related to a trial, Kraft as a privileged member of society will ultimately throw so much money at the Prosecution (dragging this out for months and months) that it would be not be cost effective. He will walk away from this with a slap on his wrist. So it will be up to the Commish to render some punishment.
    =====================
    (1) It’s a misdemeanor. Not sure why anybody would suggest\expect anything more than a slap on the wrist. That seems appropriate given the severity of the crime.
    (2) It wouldn’t be surprising at all if the NFL over compensated in dolling out a punishment for this. Nor would it be surprising for fans to react to that like finding the toy at the bottom of a cracker jack box.

  68. “Questions have emerged regarding the viability of the prosecution, including whether the evidence shows actual solicitation of sex in exchange for money.”

    =========================

    When have questions emerged? Not saying they haven’t, but I have not read an article stating that as fact or quoting an official statement. How about providing a link that you don’t have to sign up to read?

  69. Why is everyone so impressed that there’s a “video”? Other than being embarrassing to Kraft (or frankly any married man, businessman, etc) the video depicts a guy getting and paying for a “massage” which he likely got, that ended with some sexual touching–with a middle aged Florida resident.

    So, if it goes to trial – there’ll be a trial where the jury watches a lawfully paid for massage end with a hand job, and decide if the hand job was “premeditated,” ie: “agreed” between him & a middle aged non-trafficked masseuse.

    While trafficking may/may not be going on “there,” for this case its NOT because hes rich, white, etc… its because THIS particular charge, with this particular “tape” is a friggen joke.

    But he might not want to be embarrassed. And, that’s ALL they really have – in “this” case.

  70. He should just pay whatever fine is needed and move on. It’s inherently not a big deal at all and I still question how on earth they had only 5 days of video time and 2 of those days, he just so happened to be in there.

    It’s pretty clear this was a set up and someone sent him in there by design, to get a high profile figure to make a big story out of this.

    Only Kraft knows who set him up.

    It’s very suspicious that this was going on for 8 month, and only during a 5 day session of filming, 2 of them Kraft was in there.

    Regardless, he is guilty and he was set up.

    But, no one will care in the end. It’s a 77 year old single man who wanted sex and paid for it, and it was consensual.

  71. “The punishment should be that Kraft stops selling crappy genetically modified food that is bad for our children.”

    Um Robert Kraft and his family have absolutely nothing to do with Kraft Foods. Robert Kraft made his wealth through a packaging company and other businesses, not food.

  72. “Mike, you should know why they make these offers. Prosecutorial resources. Why waste prosecutor time and court time with low level offenses for first-time offenders? It’s the most efficient way to have some consequences but also give the defendant a strong incentive to admit guilt.”

    ————————————

    They just don’t want to try a defendant who can afford good lawyers. There is a real chance of an acquittal in this case regardless. Prosecutors are all about their conviction rate. It’s much easier for them to go after poor people who rely on an overworked public defender.

  73. citizenstrange says:
    March 19, 2019 at 3:27 pm
    The video sting operation lasted for two days. Robert Kraft was there both days.

    1 0 Rate This

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    Actually, it was 5. He was there for 2/5, which means he was set up by someone.

    I am sure he knows who that is by now. There’s no way over 8 months they only got cameras in there at the end, and Kraft so happened to be there, and the his name was leaked by accident.

    It’s pretty clear there was intentional framing here which is why only his name was leaked, too.

  74. What the hell was he doing in there. I would guess it wasn’t to buy an ice cream. I guess being as successful as he has he more than likely has had to get to the bottom of a dispute or two and he has probably asked someone to tell the truth because it will always come out anyway. If he goes to court and is found guilty not only is he a sad old man but a liar to boot. We all know what he got up to so tell the truth and take responsibility for your actions.

  75. dannywhite11 says:
    March 19, 2019 at 2:55 pm
    Like you Steelers players/ownership paying for all those steroids to win SBs. Funny that when your steroid Dr. Rydze is no longer on the payroll the Steelers have not won another SB.
    ———————–
    Not a Steelers fan, check my username. You would make a horrible detective. With the Patriots, doing PEDs helps you win Super Bowls, even a SB MVP honor!

  76. To you fans who want him to fight it: In the numerous news stories about this, they have a $200,000 videotape system they seized from the place, one that had video cameras in each room of the joint. They also have their own videotapes, which were placed there under a court order. Several women were residing in the “parlor”, some of which were there under temporary visas for work.
    If you were Kraft, would you want the woman who “handled” you to testify that she did, and, have the negative publicity of your attorneys attacking her as a #metoo?
    Would you wish to run the risk of the DA showing the videos of your interactions with her in open court, bobbing on your knob and “handling” you?
    Think about it for a moment. Is the TMZ showing of you getting a little knobber worth the slap on the wrist? You KNOW TMZ will get the tapes if they are shown in court.

  77. “if prosecutors were so confident of a victory, why would they offer this kind of a deal?”

    Simple. They have bigger fish to fry, and holding a trial for something like this just consumes public resources. They know that he can afford to hire and WILL hire lawyers who will stretch thing out indefinitely, costing the state even more money. He’s a first offender in a non-violent offense. Offering such a plea isn’t unusual at all, and definitely doesn’t mean they have no case.

  78. And another billionaire will get off scot-free without having to pay for his crimes. Who could have predicted this?

  79. Illegal warrant based on manufactured narrative of human trafficking. All evidence becomes inadmissible. Factor in the illegal traffic stops based on more false narratives. Then there was eagerness by local authorities to defame local citizens in the most public forum possible. Jupiter should be most worried about their liability exposure. All illegally targeted citizens in this case could wind up owning this town.

  80. gbey500 says:
    March 19, 2019 at 3:24 pm
    The punishment should be that Kraft stops selling crappy genetically modified food that is bad for our children.
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    Bob Kraft made his fortune in the paper business, not the cheese business…

  81. Diversion is a typical first time offender offer in many types of criminal cases. He doesn’t walk free..he must adhere to a strict set of conditions and there is simple no record. He is being offered but that has no bearing whatsoever on the strength of the governments case. If he does not accept this deal best believe in a such a high profile case they will continue to pursue the charges and at that point all is fair game…Kraft would be very very wise to not take this to court. He most certainly would not testify making himself look even worse. He is stuck. There is no good outcome to this for him with video surveillance involved. Who gets a 15 minute massage????? sex was performed and everyone knows it.

  82. thebirdofprey says:
    March 19, 2019 at 2:29 pm
    But this sexual deviant on the predator list. Abuses human trafficking victims and gets defended by fans.
    _________________________________
    With some of the comments here it’s obvious that a lot of commenters don’t take the time to read the story.
    As for being put on a predator list, it’s also obvious that you haven’t kept up with the news lately. Kraft is being charged with two soliciting misdemeanors NOT with human trafficking! SMH.

  83. “It’s pretty clear there was intentional framing here which is why only his name was leaked, too.”

    They actually released a pretty comprehensive list of names of who was charged. Also being charged, its subject to public record so anyone can pull each and every name who was charged. Kraft was the most notable and public of those figures. His name wasn’t leaked, he was publically charged.

  84. Well, since he just received an alleged massage, then release the tapes. Next, Robert will be saying that the tape of his massage should not be released. Truth is, the prosecutor can’t divert resources to fighting 200 cases of prostitution.

  85. Superpatriotsfan – I know there is the jealous crybaby on here and then the other person who has copied your handle and makes fun of you. Clearly this is the crybaby. What is funny is that Steelers tidbit was not directed towards you. You might want to brush on some reading skills when you try to make a put down. Keep up the crying. You will be doing a lot more of it this year.

    steelcurtainn says:
    March 19, 2019 at 2:25 pm
    It’s called pay them money like most of his sb wins.
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    Like you Steelers players/ownership paying for all those steroids to win SBs. Funny that when your steroid Dr. Rydze is no longer on the payroll the Steelers have not won another SB.

  86. gbey500 says:
    March 19, 2019 at 3:24 pm
    The punishment should be that Kraft stops selling crappy genetically modified food that is bad for our children.
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    Wow! Dumb comes in all shapes and forms.

  87. Sounds like the DA’s office received some heavy handed political pressure considering the nearby location to Mar-A-Lago and that the spa owner is a big donor to the President

  88. Actually, it was 5. He was there for 2/5, which means he was set up by someone.

    I am sure he knows who that is by now. There’s no way over 8 months they only got cameras in there at the end, and Kraft so happened to be there, and the his name was leaked by accident.

    It’s pretty clear there was intentional framing here which is why only his name was leaked, too.

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    Sounds like a millennial excuse to blame “them” because its never our fault as someone is always out to get us….we never do anything wrong. See how silly that sounds. Kraft needs to9 be made an example of and embarrassed……he is better than this.

  89. “He is guilty, your Honor, because it is more probable than not.”

    With this deal, it’s hard to think that they have more than that…

  90. If the video does not show Kraft asking for a certain act in exchange for money that’s not intent of solicitation. Intent is an element required for any crime. The prosecutor knows he or she can’t charge Kraft under the solicitation statute without the written elements of the statute having occurred! Case over if the video does not show the request and offer unless a witness testifies for the police.

  91. fireroger says:
    March 19, 2019 at 3:14 pm

    For me it’s simple. If he takes the deal he’s guilty.
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    Forgetting Kraft for a moment- most people in the US who take a Plea Deal are not guilty- they just don’t have the resources or see another way out. Prosecutors know this and manipulate the situation.

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    When have questions emerged? Not saying they haven’t, but I have not read an article stating that as fact or quoting an official statement. How about providing a link that you don’t have to sign up to read?
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    Virtually everything the Police/Prosecutors have said involving Kraft has proven untrue so far- IE trafficking, involves underage girls, forced/non consensual and so on.

  92. dsigrey says:
    March 19, 2019 at 3:08 pm

    Human trafficking… the women were 48 and 54, both US Citizens, both licensed masseuses. They were both in fact friends with Kraft, hell one was at Trump’s Super Bowl party.

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    No, it’s not that lady. The woman in the news recently, the one who was at Trump’s Super Bowl party, sold the massage parlors some years ago.

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    gbey500 says:
    March 19, 2019 at 3:24 pm

    The punishment should be that Kraft stops selling crappy genetically modified food that is bad for our children.

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    It’s not that Kraft. Robert Kraft’s fortune is mostly based on paper products and he has never had anything to do with Kraft Foods.

  93. Prosecutor’s case is WEAK. They have a sexual act on tape. So what? How does that prove he “solicited her”, ie told her he’d pay money for sex? Proves nothing. Secondly, the woman in question was a middle aged woman, not a young woman being “sex trafficked”.

  94. It’s typical to drop charges against first time offenders, but not for them be forced to admit fault.

    Conspiracy theory #1 is that the condition to admit fault is there as a favor to Goodell to allow him to still punish Kraft.

    Otherwise there is no charge at all, and there’s nothing to punish.

    Conspiracy theory #2 is that the FL police issued wanted to publicly get an offer to drop the charges out there to make Kraft look bad. If he accepts he has to admit guilt, if he chooses to fight it and videos etc come out it doesn’t really matter if he beats the charges or not. If Kraft loses he will look dumb for not accepting the offer.

  95. I wish he’d accept the deal and take his punishment like the dirty old man that he is. He needs to stop, and the league needs to punish him, suspending him from being around the Patriots for 1 year… Then we wouldn’t have to see his withered old face on Sundays.

  96. “Regardless, he is guilty and he was set up.”

    LOL Which is it? If he is guilty, he was not set up. If he’s not guilty, he was set up. But how can you say he was set up when his driver took him there at his behest? Multiple times.

    Too funny.

  97. Every needs to stop jumping up and down yelling about a “rich white man” getting away with it. The SAME deal was offered to 25 other defendants charged with the first degree misdemeanor. I have read that the cops claim they have video of the alleged acts. If the video actually shows the act, that’s one thing, but if it just shows them paying for services, that means little.

    It’s the standard diversion program offered to first time offenders. Of course the media’s headline make it seem like Kraft is the only one being offered the deal.

  98. fordmandalay says:
    March 19, 2019 at 3:49 pm
    And another billionaire will get off scot-free without having to pay for his crimes. Who could have predicted this?

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    Something like 95% of first time offenders for solicitation of prostitution have their charges dropped and generally there is no clause that requires them to admit fault. They just have to do the community service and take the courses. It’s far from special treatment.

  99. I believe the average person (if Johns are average) would take this deal. DA’s do this all the time to avoid wasting time in court over misdemeanors, not because they can’t prove their case.

    That being said, I don’t believe Kraft’s ego will allow him to agree. But, I can’t imagine Kraft wanting this to go to court either.

  100. steelerfanjo says:
    March 19, 2019 at 3:59 pm
    It doesn’t matter… the Patriots are a tainted team. They are a joke and this just adds to their legacy of putridness.

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    At least they ARE a “team”. I don’t know what you would call the Steelers at the moment.

  101. If you were the prosecutor and knew you had him dead-to-rights why extend an offer like this without Kraft’s attorneys asking for it? This sounds like they may be doubting their ability to win at trial.

  102. fishyinalittledishy says:
    March 19, 2019 at 3:43 pm
    What the hell was he doing in there. I would guess it wasn’t to buy an ice cream. I guess being as successful as he has he more than likely has had to get to the bottom of a dispute or two and he has probably asked someone to tell the truth because it will always come out anyway. If he goes to court and is found guilty not only is he a sad old man but a liar to boot. We all know what he got up to so tell the truth and take responsibility for your actions.

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    Assuming you have the message already lined up that says he’s a degenerate and the NFL should throw the book at him if/when he admits it.

  103. To the mutton heads who are complaining about Kraft being white and rich and it must be nice…… obviously you didn’t read the story. It’s not just Kraft getting offered the deal, a bunch of the people accused are getting offered the same deal.
    As someone else stated above, the whole investigation has problems and in all likelihood they are trying now to save as much face as possible. If I were Kraft I’d tell em’ to GFT. His rep has already taken the hit and he will get punished by the NFL either way.

  104. Is there no end to cheating in the Patriots’ organization? The rich and powerful can just buy their way out of everything. Just like Belicheat with Spygate. Just like Brady with Deflategate.

  105. styx630 says:
    March 19, 2019 at 2:01 pm
    Must be nice to be white and rich in this country. Completely different set of rules.

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    Same point I made above… 95% of first time offenders for solicitation of prostitution have the charges dropped, and generally not with the weird condition Kraft has. He’s not getting special treatment at all.

  106. Don’t take the deal Mr Kraft. When first reported the prosecutor tied you in with human traffickers, sue the bejesus out of the state. If they could win they wouldn’t be offering the deal. The state has already harmed your reputation. Make them pay dearly.

  107. TimTebowGodOfFootballKarma says:
    March 19, 2019 at 4:34 pm
    Is there no end to cheating in the Patriots’ organization? The rich and powerful can just buy their way out of everything. Just like Belicheat with Spygate. Just like Brady with Deflategate.

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    95% of first time offenders for solicitation of prostitution have the charges dropped. Not special. BB was punished severely for Spygate and Brady was punished more than severely. I don’t think they bought their way out of anything. Your points are plain wrong.

  108. Another detail about the offer is that all 25 guys they extended it to have to be present in court together on the same day to be ‘forgiven’ all at once. That’s the local cops setting themselves up for another media moment pure and simple. Kraft should not fall for it. He should tell them to prove it or drop it. It really doesnt matter whether they do or not. The damage to his reputation is already complete so with nothing to lose he has no reason to give them anything..

  109. mogogo1 says:
    March 19, 2019 at 4:29 pm
    If you were the prosecutor and knew you had him dead-to-rights why extend an offer like this without Kraft’s attorneys asking for it? This sounds like they may be doubting their ability to win at trial.

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    It’s typical to make these kinds of offers for first time offenders. Most don’t have as much to lose as Kraft. For almost anyone else the dropping of the charges would be all that mattered. Their permanent record would be clean.

  110. It’s called an Alford plea,…. whereby a defendant in a criminal case does not admit to the criminal act and asserts innocence, the defendant admits that the evidence presented by the prosecution would be likely to persuade a judge or jury to find the defendant guilty.
    If he’s smart he should take the deal. But it also appears money can buy your way out. A trial would be an embarrassment to Kraft.

  111. “The woman in the news recently, the one who was at Trump’s Super Bowl party, sold the massage parlors some years ago.”

    Yeah she sold them to her own parents ans was still running them from behind the scenes while she put together a company that sold access to Trump to Chinese billionaires

  112. fishyinalittledishy says:
    March 19, 2019 at 3:43 pm
    What the hell was he doing in there. I would guess it wasn’t to buy an ice cream.

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    Have you tried the icecream there? Its really goid.

  113. Patriots fans: WAAAHHH. Goodell, Idel Gas Law, Someone put him there at the scene he was just trying to buy a can of Coke.

    Rest of us: Take the deal. Where do I sign.

    And to a previous poster elocution does not mean they don’t have enough evidence. Quite the contrary actually. It means they do, but they would rather spare the expense of a trial. It is a very common practice outside of Pats Nation, and it is done with a range of crimes.

  114. At least they ARE a “team”. I don’t know what you would call the Steelers at the moment.

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    Sounds like an argument from grade school playground. Pats fans have no answer for this and are embarrassing themselves as flop around the bottom of the boat with a hook in their mouths….poor little fishies

  115. How common is it for the prosecution to make an offer to a defendant telling them “well, if you say you’re guilty, we’ll drop the charges?” From what I understand, if Ralph the bus driver or Joe the plumber makes a plea, he still pleas guilty to a lesser charge… guilty to SOMETHING.

    I just want to know whether the everyday guy gets to make this deal or whether it is reserved for the privileged.

  116. spartanlegend says:

    He has to getting screened for STDs? Does anyone else think that’s a weird condition?

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    No it is a very common practice to test prostitutes and john in many States these days. If they are found to have a potentially fatal or aggressive disease, AIDS, HIV, Hepatitis, Syphilis they can be charged with additional charges if they are arrested again and knowingly are spreading the STD. It is a first-degree felony punishable by up to 30 years’ imprisonment to have sex with someone in FL and not tell them you have HIV.

  117. The police probably have the video but no juror would want to view it without gouging their eyes out afterwards. Just plead out the case and hope for the best with the NFL.

  118. They don’t have any evidence of an actual solicitation. They have no audio so they can’t prove there is a solicitation of sex acts. Without the audio that they’ve got nothing. Krafty could just say he has a relationship with the women and the prosecution can not prove otherwise without the audio of an actual solicitation.

  119. So they offered a high profile John a deal if he just admitted guilt? Not smelling the generosity here, it smells like fear to me.

  120. Too late. The damage is done. Robert Kraft will always be linked to a massage parlor, prostitution and sex trafficking. Don’t believe me? Google his name and see the results…

  121. Mr. Kraft was serviced by a 58 and 45 a year old…the owner and the manager of the place. Kraft did not know about the s*x trafficking but the law enforcement knew for a fact for months yet did nothing and allowed the actual victims to languish. They have nothing against Mr. Kraft.

  122. styx630 says:
    March 19, 2019 at 2:01 pm
    Must be nice to be white and rich in this country. Completely different set of rules.

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    Well, rich, anyway. Prisons are also stuffed full of poor white people there on non-violent offenses.

    Of course there’s no doubt that things like systemic racism exist, but economic class is the ultimate structure of repression in this country. It’s the 1%, a huge invisible wall, and then everyone else. If the working class and social-media idiocracy ever wake up to that fact, it could change the world. But we’re too busy hating each other to look up.

  123. So do all the others that had mug shots get the same its OK don’t do it again sentence. Only in NE do we see this over and over

  124. guinsrule2 says:
    March 19, 2019 at 5:32 pm
    Too late. The damage is done. Robert Kraft will always be linked to a massage parlor, prostitution and sex trafficking. Don’t believe me? Google his name and see the results…

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    You have to be a Millennial.

  125. Let’s face it, folks. Half the players in the NFL go to strip joints on a regular basis and we all know if you have enough money, you can do more than just watch the girls at places like that. If anyone doesn’t think so, you are badly mistaken. I know guys who have scored so many times in those places that if you kept track of it, it would resemble an NBA team’s game score.
    I’m not condoning or condemning what Kraft did because I really don’t know what he did or what the circumstances were. If women were being forced into doing things against their will, hang all those who was doing the forcing — including Kraft. But if the women were willingly doing what ever it is they were doing for money, it’s no big deal to me. Turn the page and move on.

  126. Nofoolnodrool says:
    March 19, 2019 at 4:45 pm
    At least they ARE a “team”. I don’t know what you would call the Steelers at the moment.

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    Sounds like an argument from grade school playground. Pats fans have no answer for this and are embarrassing themselves as flop around the bottom of the boat with a hook in their mouths….poor little fishes
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    I mean I would think the guy who posts multiple times on any Pats article crying about anything would be the poor little fishy. If posting about the Pats makes you feel better throughout the day then I guess have all at it. If anyone embarrasses themselves on these boards you are by far the clear winner. Congrats on that and the Steelers making the playoffs. Whoops, too soon…

  127. The vehicle stop used to ID Kraft was illegal. No deal, this will get tossed if his lawyers are anything approaching competent.

  128. Kraft is winning this case no matter what. Even if you put aside the fact that he’s a billionaire, the police did something illegal. Cameras are not allowed in individual massage rooms; it’s an invasion of privacy. It would be like installing cameras in changing rooms at the mall, or inside of restrooms.

    According to the Florida Recording Law, Florida’s wiretapping law is a “two-party consent” law. Florida makes it a crime to intercept or record a “wire, oral, or electronic communication” in Florida, unless all parties to the communication consent. The police will be in deeper trouble, if the videos get released on social media.

  129. dlux36 says:
    March 19, 2019 at 7:03 pm
    Who cares…except his wife. He didn’t set up the shop. I loathe the Pats, but go after the real criminals and move on.

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    his wife has been dead for 7.5 years

    ever notice, when something is minor or not even a thing with the pats, the faux outrage starts first and then we learn of the truth later?

  130. bal204 says:
    March 19, 2019 at 7:17 pm
    YES, there’s a video… TMZ will have a field day somewhere down the line.

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    smearing a 77 year old man paying for sex is not only
    weak, it’s pathetic

    no one should care

  131. FootballSeasonRules says:
    March 19, 2019 at 7:01 pm

    According to the Florida Recording Law, Florida’s wiretapping law is a “two-party consent” law. Florida makes it a crime to intercept or record a “wire, oral, or electronic communication” in Florida, unless all parties to the communication consent. The police will be in deeper trouble, if the videos get released on social media.
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    Umm, ever heard of a warrant?

  132. “Probably the worst owner in league history.”

    He the only owner who privately funded his own stadium in full and didn’t extort it out of the taxpayers or move the teams to get free money.

    He didn’t scam millions of dollars from American families and companies like Haslam did with his PilotFlyingJ scam. He didn’t commit real estate fraud like the Wilfs did. He didn’t conceal serial domestic violence by a freaking punter like Mara did. He didn’t conceal Ray Rice knocking out his fiance like Biscotti did.

    There are a hell of a lot worse owners in the league than Bob Kraft. Is what he did unseemly? Sure. Nobody could argue that this was one of his prouder moments. But he’s far from the worst NFL owner.

  133. I mean I would think the guy who posts multiple times on any Pats article crying about anything would be the poor little fishy. If posting about the Pats makes you feel better throughout the day then I guess have all at it. If anyone embarrasses themselves on these boards you are by far the clear winner. Congrats on that and the Steelers making the playoffs. Whoops, too soon…

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    Thanks I accept your congratulations but what does that have to do Kraft and sex trafficking. I mean the truth is tough to deal with so of course you will attack the source of the truth you don’t want to hear. Buckle up Skippy it’s going to get tougher once the NFL speaks.

  134. TimTebowGodOfFootballKarma says:
    March 19, 2019 at 4:34 pm
    Is there no end to cheating in the Patriots’ organization? The rich and powerful can just buy their way out of everything. Just like Belicheat with Spygate. Just like Brady with Deflategate.
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    $5+ million to change science …. errr …. uhmmmmm

    Both of which resulted in the worst penalties in NFL history. They didn’t buy their way out of anything.

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