Emmanuel Sanders: When I left Steelers, Kevin Colbert said I’m no Antonio Brown

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Steelers General Manager Kevin Colbert may now rue the day he gave Antonio Brown a big contract two years ago. But he once wanted to save so much salary cap space for Brown that he openly told other players they couldn’t get the contracts they wanted because they weren’t as good as Brown.

That’s the word from Broncos wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders, who says that when he left the Steelers to sign a three-year, $15 million contract with the Broncos in 2014, Colbert scoffed at the Steelers matching that deal and told Sanders he’s not as good as Brown.

“The Steelers offered me a crappy deal. They offered me three years, $9 million, $1 million guaranteed,” Sanders said on 104.3 The Fan. “I’ll never forget when they offered me the deal, I declined the deal, I went into Kevin Colbert’s office and said, ‘I don’t want to take the deal.’ He looks at me and he goes, ‘Who do you think you are, Antonio Brown?’ I wanted to say, ‘F-you.’ I’ll never forget that.”

Sanders said Colbert disrespected him, and that’s something he doesn’t tolerate.

108 responses to “Emmanuel Sanders: When I left Steelers, Kevin Colbert said I’m no Antonio Brown

  1. Brutal honesty. Would he rather be coddled and lied to? Like the players and owners say, its a business. Sometimes the truth is hard to hear. Sanders is a good player. But he isn’t AB. Just the truth.

  2. Colbert was 100% correct, so what is Sanders crying about? And to say he was offered a “crappy deal” when they offered him 3 years for 9 million and 1 million guaranteed shows how out of touch the players are.
    I cannot wait for a strike or a lock out. All these NFL people need a rude awakening. Sanders is not even close to being as good as Antonio Brown. He says Colbert “disrespected” him. What a joke!!!
    Guys like Sanders can’t face the truth. There is not one fan who went to watch the Steelers or Broncos play because Sanders was playing.

  3. Colbert was right, but perhaps how Sanders was treated out the door sheds light on why Steelers don’t seem to be able to make a lot of their players happy. Maybe, just maybe, the leadership of that franchise has lost its ability to effectively lead.

  4. Granted, Sanders isn’t anywhere near as good as AB, but Colbert could have handled it much more professionally than he did. Colbert should look in the mirror, because his recent dealings have exposed him as one of the worst GM’s in all of football.

  5. Regardless of anything, not how a general manager should handle business. Emmanuel has been no slouch in Denver. He has averaged 1,000 yds/season and has one very important thing that Antonio Brown doesn’t, a big fat Super Bowl ring.

  6. Sanders isn’t AB but:

    1. He’s damn sure not 3 years 9 million. He’s a top level receiver.

    2. No matter what the owner thinks… you don’t say something like that. You simply say it’s a salary cap league and we can’t pay everyone. Or say nothing at all. But you don’t bring up other people’s names.

    Gotta love each new piece of info getting out on how the steeelrs aren’t a near and tidy organization like they were made to seem all these years by the media

  7. “Steelers General Manager Kevin Colbert may now rue the day he gave Antonio Brown a big contract two years ago.”
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    Why? Regardless of what’s happened, Brown put up 205 catches, 2,800 yards and 23 touchdowns in the last two years. He’s earned every penny of that contract. Colbert was also able to dump a 31-yr old receiver on the downside of his career. In fact, this is almost too perfect for the Steelers – get the most out of a player during his prime 25-30 years and then trade him before the contract becomes bloated relative to diminishing returns.

  8. He had a case of stone hands while in Pittsburgh, glad to see he worked that out in Denver. At the time he was nowhere near the player Brown was, he has closed the gap a bit but not enough to claim he is in the same category as Brown.

  9. didnt Mike wallace have a similar claim when Miami offered him big money and he went back to the steelers to see what they could do? Maybe I am mistaken.

  10. I was wrong. There was a time when players had no options when they got to moments like the one Sanders faced. Then the players demanded some form of free agency. I was one of those against it because I thought it disloyal to abandon ones team.

    But this situation proves the value of FA. Sanders may not have been as good as Brown but he was still an outstanding receiver and was able to get more money and respect by moving on. This Bronco fan has found him to be a fine addition.

  11. LOL…this is hilarious…I could imagine the type of language GM’s use during a negotiating period…this seems tame at the very least..He left because the Broncos gave him a better offer..worked out great for both…and the Steelers were not hurt by it…lol…

  12. AB is a better receiver no doubt. But Colbert & his pal Tomlin really look inept & very weak these days.

  13. I’m not going to take Sanders version of this as absolute fact. I doubt that this went down exactly as Sanders describes. all these guys want to play off of the “everybody doubted me” routine and now every contract offered makes them feel disrespected. and no Sanders, you are not as good as AB. better person probably, yes, but that’s a low bar.

  14. LOL at these comments. Only guaranteeing 1 Mil is a slap in the face. If you can’t see that then there is no hope for you to ever have average intellect. Which is the same reason Bell held out all year, because they guaranteed only 10 Mil of the deal they offered. You can put any value on a contract to make it sound good, but the guarantee is the only part that matters and that is what the focus should be on. Steelers are starting to look bad for the way they are conducting business.

  15. I’ve heard, and used, that exact type of statement hundreds of times, and every time it has been in a joking manner. Like Foster said, if the other side starts talking, and asking questions of AB, Bell, etc about their role in all of this, they would be like crickets.

  16. Lmfao wow. Yeah he’s no brown but if that is your bargaining chip to get a player to take less I can’t imagine you signing too many players. Colbert probably came back with: that’s a great offer I made the same deal with Yancy Thigpen….,in 1997.

  17. having a Super Bowl ring doesn’t make you a great player. It means you played on the team that won it. I’d venture to guess there are many WR’s out there with a SB ring who are not quite as good as Randy Moss.

  18. I think it’s a big stretch to say Sanders “isn’t anywhere near as good” as some of you are saying. He is not as good to be sure, but he’s been a damn stud in Denver. Great hands, maybe even a little faster. Was best player on field during SuperBowl 50 after Von Miller

  19. Emmanuel, your response to Kevin Colbert should have been.. You’re no Ben Roethlisberger, you don’t run things around. Who do you think you are..??!!!

  20. He may not be AB, but that contract offer is a joke. And for the GM to say something like that is stupid & disrespectful. Sanders is & was a very good receiver. Why say something like that to ruin that relationship? If AB needs so much money that you can’t pay a very good WR $5m per then maybe AB wasn’t worth it? Who has more championships since then?

  21. Colbert was 100% correct, so what is Sanders crying about? And to say he was offered a “crappy deal” when they offered him 3 years for 9 million and 1 million guaranteed shows how out of touch the players are.

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    For a player of Sanders’ caliber that is a VERY CRAPPY deal. Out of touch? Dude I’m sorry that you don’t make as much as NFL players do, I don’t either. But considering the value they bring to the owners & the havoc they put their bodies through they are very much worth what they get paid. But keep on stanning for the billionaire owners, it’s a great look.

  22. bad blood is why. the steelers were seething when he signed that offer from new england the season before and subsequently forced the steelers to match it and give him a pay raise that year. he screwed over their salary cap situation that season and put colbert in a bad spot, because he signed an offer sheet from the steelers biggest rival in the afc. thats why he didnt offer sanders anything, and fired off that insult as well.

  23. gjsteel says:
    March 22, 2019 at 7:40 am
    LOL…this is hilarious…I could imagine the type of language GM’s use during a negotiating period…this seems tame at the very least..He left because the Broncos gave him a better offer..worked out great for both…and the Steelers were not hurt by it…lol…

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    well they certainly werent helped by it either. and he helped denver win a sb that very next season, so im sure this worked out better for denver than pitt. but keep acting like ur teams getting the deal out of it. theyve won nothing jettisoning all those players, just caused useless drama thats left their team mediocre at best.

  24. Funny how certain people always go to the “they disrespected me” card whenever someone speaks the truth or tells them something they don’t want to hear. The thing is most of these people don’t understand you earn respect it’s not something that is given away for free.

  25. Emmanuel Sanders was injured most of his career with the Steelers. What Colbert said was true and Sanders didn’t like it. Oh well, get over it. Instead you’re still talking about it what, 6 years later?

  26. Ok another disgrunted EX Steeler, we take his word assuming Colbert said this. Way to go people, I guess we only take the players side when it comes to a onesided conversation. Sanders there was a reason you were signed else where and why Brown was signed so what about now did thBroncos give you $50million for 30ish yrs and $30 million guaranteed???? Nope play your game on the field stop blaming other people for you financial situation.

  27. Yes, those were Colbert’s exact quote, verbatim! Yeah sure, anyone who knows Colbert knows that he wouldn’t address any player like that! They had a choice to pay Brown or this guy, why on earth would they give Sanders anything close to Brown?

  28. Contracts are based on skill and ability, Sanders was/is a lesser talent and the Steelers gave Brown the big contract and let Sanders sign with Denver. They made the right choice.

  29. Well, assuming we take only Sanders’ side of the story as to what he said verbatim, Colbert was still very correct.

    What’s the story here? Player overvalues himself, declines contract and proves the team right? ….K!

  30. Another compelling episode of Days of our Steelers. Btw, if you go back and read BSPN’s January 2018 article about how the Patriots were the team that was totally going to fall apart at any second, it has aged about as well as disco.

  31. I think Brown already had is second contract by then. The Steelers had to choose between Brown and Wallace- which was not an obvious choice at the time- and they kept Brown. Sanders was the following year, I believe. If he was looking for Brown money, Colbert’s statement was correct.
    The “disrespected” thing is overplayed. Anyone who isn’t the highest paid player at his position is apparently being disrespected. I don’t blame any player for chasing big contracts, but they should admit that all parties involved are making business decisions.

  32. “piling on” is contagious. hes been gone for five years. why say this now?
    these guys are blowing an NFL code, and a professional code(which they are not) of just keeping your mouth shut around in-house ops. they will all be cursed this season.

  33. Colbert wasn’t wrong about Sanders, but when the team’s two best players can not get out of town fast enough, it says how they feel about the GM.

    Colbert and Tomlin will both be gone within the next year.

  34. of course.. it is all the players.. never the GM. All the players are diva’s and the GM knows best. We will see how they do this year. They have lost a 1 and 2 receiver and the 1 back in the league. Here’s to “Big Ben” we will see how he does without all these “diva’s” around

  35. Well, he did leave Pitt and get to knock the Steelers out of the Playoffs, and win a Superbowl. But it’s correct to say he is no A.B., few are really.

  36. Well, he did leave Pitt and get to knock the Steelers out of the Playoffs, and win a Superbowl. But it’s correct to say he is no A.B., few are really.

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    I think this was AB’s point. Everyone seems to forget that the guy has been the best in the world at his position for a few years now. They also tend to forget that you can have an elite QB and if the skill positions around him are weak you won’t win. Ask Aaron Rodgers. The Steelers are going to pay for this purging of offensive talent. I am sure they will blame Tomlin when it has been the Steeler mentality that has been running guy not named Ben out of town.

  37. The quotes from Sanders feel like some context is missing. Maybe Colbert was being a jerk, but maybe he was responding in kind (even if he shouldn’t have) to something Sanders said or a perceived ‘attitude’ Sanders was displaying (?)
    It seems the more we hear from, now ex-Steelers, about how horrible or inhuman or disrespectful the organization is the more it stands out we don’t hear it from EVERY ex-Steeler. After a while it tends to look more and more like they were contributing to a problem the more they talk about how they weren’t the problem.

  38. Sanders already has more Super Bowl rings than diva Brown will ever have (unless he happens to back into one on the tail end of his career). There’s more to being a pro athlete than fantasy stats.

  39. Wait I thought the Steelers could do no wrong? What happened? Aren’t Emmanuel Sanders and Bell supposed to be crazy for being happy with their new teams?

  40. Okay, what did he say that was incorrect here, lol. Brown is Hall of Fame caliber. You are not. Furthermore, you signed for $6 mil more. Basically that the Broncos gave you $2 million a year more, not anything outrageous.

  41. only the players know what goes on in the club house
    it seems, the organization needs a good shakeup
    starting with Colbert first
    then see how things shake out
    hope Tomlin doesn’t have to pay for others mistakes

  42. The people that are saying well Sanders isn’t Antonio Brown are missing the point completely.

    First..Sanders never claimed to be Brown. He was upset he was only offered a contract that gauranteed $1 million and paid out $9 million over 3 years.

    The deal he got on the open market paid him 67% more ($15 million) and of that the gaurantee was (6 times more) $6 million.

    He thoroughl outplayed that contract. Getting 1,404 yards and 9tds his first season with Denver. That’s the disrespectful part. Sanders steadily improved his production with the Steelers each year he was with them yet the Steelers were trying to low ball him. And to be honest they attempt to lowball every one of their players in one way or another whether it’s the overall contract or only gauranteeing the first year.

  43. That may hurt, but it is the awful truth. Brown has been the most productive wide receiver for several years, at least in Pittsburgh. There are also equally good receivers around the league, e.g. DeAndre Hopkins of Houston and Julio Jones of Atlanta. The problem is that AB suddenly started having attitude problems. He probably listened to some bad advises from people such as his mentor Terrell Owens.

  44. Here’s the truth: These egomaniac players deed to grow up. A GM has every right to feel about a player what he thinks. If he thinks he’s not worth the amount of money the player feels he’s worth — so be it. Do what Sanders did — use free agency to find someone who does. But stop whining about it. All you do is come off like a spoiled child.
    We are reminded all the time by these arrogant players that the NFL is “just a business”. But when the owners or GM’s use the rules they have in place against them, they whine like little kids because they feel “disrespected”.
    If the players want to blame anyone — blame themselves and their Players Association. Because they agreed to the collective bargaining agreement and as long as the GM’s and owners don’t violate it, they need to shut up.
    When we see a player who’s making a ton of money and has a lousy year walk into a GM’s office and hand him 2/3 of his salary back for stinking up the joint, then I’ll respect them. Until then, shut up and play!

  45. Don’t believe ANYTHING Sanders says. $$$ is what inspires ALL of these ex-Steelers disparaging comments. If Colbert did say this, yes it’s unprofessional. Kinda like AB and Sanders comments are. Which, by the way, are not hearsay.

  46. Sanders was paid well in free agency and Colbert was absolutely correct. If you want real disrespect, look up how Sanders agreed to a deal with the Chiefs and then kept negotiating with the Broncos and Bucs.

    Since 2014 Sanders has 4994 yards and 26 TDs
    Brown has 7646 yards and 59 TDs.

    Sanders is one of those tough guys who think his team won a Super Bowl because of him. Malik Jackson has more playoff TDs than Sanders.

    He had 1 outstanding statistical year with Peyton Manning in Peyton’s last healthy season of 2014. He has given the Broncos an average of 900 yards and just over 4 TDs a year since 2015. That is the opposite of Antonio Brown.

  47. alldonesmith says: March 22, 2019 at 5:44 am

    My question is, why didn’t he?
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    It’s very simple why Sanders held his tongue. In an industry that’s extremely competitive for jobs and with limited opportunities with a very cut throat mentality, you don’t burn bridges, no matter how you feel. Look at all the older players who couldn’t get jobs because they were diva cancers in their younger years. On the opposite side, DeSean Jackson was unfairly accused of being a diva cancer by clueless and judgmental fans when he was traded away. Now he’s back with the team who traded him. Why? Because he was professional, maintained a good relationship with Eagles management and was respectful to the GM Howie Roseman.

  48. These guys (and you critics) are not dealing with reality.

    In the NFL you’re lucky to be told what your value is to the organization. He was told and now he’s complaining about it.

    He had an option and he took it and did well for himself. And now he’s burning bridges with a GM and his former team who did him a favor.

    The reason Bell only had the Jets wanting him was because of his behavior – sitting out a year and the drug issues made him less interesting. The more players follow his and Brown’s footsteps the more they’re pay the price.

  49. The power-authority hierarchy structure is a sound reality.

    Respect is a 2-way street.

  50. Well he will be making 10 million this year and worth every penny. But no, he is no AB I will admit.

  51. Sanders is a pretty good wr playing with poor QBs. He’s not as good as AB but 1 mil guaranteed?? That’s pretty bad. And the disrespect too.

  52. smoothrobinva says:
    March 22, 2019 at 7:21 am
    Ab won’t be ab either without Big Ben

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    time will tell the story on this. The two main reasons I have enjoyed watching AB play (and I’m a Patriots fan) are: 1. his ability to get open and 2. his ability to catch balls, even in a crowd, that are anywhere within his reach….and sometimes those that appeared out of his reach.

    I have seen Ben throw balls to him that were not really that close, and there are maybe only a couple of receivers that would actually come down with those balls. And yeah, I realize that Ben has thrown him a lot of good balls too. and then there’s the offensive line that the Steelers have. Sometimes they’d buy time for AB to get free, sometimes Ben would himself.

    It just may be that Ben and AB both made each other look better.

  53. @nyneal

    Well put, I especially like the part about after getting “paid” (guaranteed or not), and under-performing, the player never offers to return part of their pay. LOL

    Also, I don’t know about you, but I’m so tired of the old “Steelers short change the players” fallacy. If the players are so short changed, why are Steelers up against the cap ceiling every season?

  54. Denver also offered him only $5m/year. Is that was Brown was making? No way. Sanders is absolutely, or at least was then, the best #2 receiver in the game and would have been a nice #1 on many teams. He’s absolutely worth $5m/year. He’s always had good production despite never being the 1st option playing with D. Thomas and Brown.

  55. skippyx says:
    March 22, 2019 at 11:30 am
    Sanders was paid well in free agency and Colbert was absolutely correct. If you want real disrespect, look up how Sanders agreed to a deal with the Chiefs and then kept negotiating with the Broncos and Bucs.

    Since 2014 Sanders has 4994 yards and 26 TDs
    Brown has 7646 yards and 59 TDs.

    Sanders is one of those tough guys who think his team won a Super Bowl because of him. Malik Jackson has more playoff TDs than Sanders.

    He had 1 outstanding statistical year with Peyton Manning in Peyton’s last healthy season of 2014. He has given the Broncos an average of 900 yards and just over 4 TDs a year since 2015. That is the opposite of Antonio Brown.

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    He has half the stats with less than 1/2 the number of opportunities. You have to take into account the relative nature of comparing a team’s 1st option to the 2nd option. Sanders gets nowhere near as many targets being the #2. Brown was also getting significantly higher pay than $5m/year

  56. smoothrobinva says:
    March 22, 2019 at 7:21 am
    Ab won’t be ab either without Big Ben

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    Or quite possibly Big Ben won’t be Big Ben without AB

  57. Has ANYONE in the media asked Colbert for his side of this?
    No, of course not…they just take players at their word….4-6 years after the fact.
    Sanders is an idiot and so are the media for believing him and not getting both sides of the story.

  58. Sure, Sanders isn’t Brown, but he wasn’t asking for a Brown-like contract, which seems to be lost on some. Every team wants to get away with paying as little as possible, not just due to maximizing profitability, but to stay within the cap. But that doesn’t mean you have to hard-ball a player to the point where he gets pissed off, and that’s a common theme among the former Pittsburgh players. The lack of guaranteed money in particular is insulting, because it tells the player that what the team is dangling in front of you is unilaterally binding, phony money. You’re bound to it, but the team can walk away at any time.

  59. The Pats signed ESanders to an offer sheet when he was a RFA and KColbert showed his respect in his ability by matching. When they were cash strapped, as usual. Obviously,Brown is better. Steelers have drafted a lit of good WRs. Can’t pay all

  60. Sanders is an avg receiver at best. I also love these guys who are middle-school sized, and talk tough about getting disrespected. Nice try, shrimp.

  61. I think you guys are blowing this out of proportion a little bit. AB had a contract that was going to pay him $17 million a year and Sanders wanted $15 over 3 years. Sanders wasn’t looking for anything close to top WR money. Guy wanted a fair contract for what he had done, not sure why all virtol for that.

  62. I don’t understand how this is a story. Title should have been “Pitts GM correct in assessment of 3rd WR”. He didn’t disrespect Sanders. He said he wouldn’t pay him what he asked because they had another guy ahead of him on the depth chart. The question was basically a statement for where they viewed him on the depth chart. Brown had just come off a breakout season (1500 yds 13 TDs) and Sanders put up respectable but not break the bank-able (740 yds, 6 TDs). Antonio Brown BECAME a top WR in the league that year, after he had restructured his deal to make the money that Sanders was asking for. THAT is why the GM compared the two in his response, and that is why he played for the Broncos the following season.

    His replacement, Martavis Bryant, Had 550 yds and 8 TDs. Matching his production, on a rookie deal. Sanders went on to be very good for the Broncos. I’d say the Steelers GM has played all of these cards right until the AB trade. Now they better get some magic out of those picks they got or it becomes a large blemish. Respect goes both ways.

  63. Sanders kills me. Remember when he said Big Ben was no Peyton Manning???? What’s the difference here? What’s the big deal?

  64. Sanders isn’t Brown, and the bottom line is that the Steelers didn’t suffer from his departure nor from losing Santonio Holmes or Mike Wallace. It’s a tough business, and GMs use tough language in negotiations. I’m sure if you interview other players, you’ll find many have heard similar comments from GMs throughout the league. After Rod Woodson’s ACL tear, former Steelers GM Tom Donohoe told Woodson he was no longer Rod Woodson, despite all Rod had meant to the franchise (which was considerably more than any receiver since John Stallworth). Woodson left, moved to safety, and continued to be a dominant defensive back for several more years. Sometimes GMs are right, and sometimes they’re idiots. Colbert’s been right more often than not.

  65. Anyone can say the steelers ‘didn’t suffer’ by Colbert’s decisions, but the bottom line is during the the 8 yrs since the steeler lost their last SBowl, they have missed the playoffs 3x. When they made the playoffs, they’ve gone 2-5. Arrow is pointing down. 37 yr old diva . QB. Steelers solved the symptoms, not the problems. No playoffs for 2 yrs.

  66. In 2014 while being #2WR and playing with a good QB he went for 1404 yds AB had 1600 but AB had 28 more rec and did not have another good WR next to him, ES is clearly a top WR when he has a QB.

  67. the REAL question is who is evaluating the WR talent in Pitt???? Hines Ward, Santonio Holmes, Mike Wallace, Emmanual Sanders, Antonio Brown, Martavius Bryant, JuJu.

    The steelers have always had one of the top receivers in the game going back to the early 2000s. this is a sign that they have somebody in that organization that either can evaluate WR talent very well, or coach up WR talent very well. or both.

    this is something that is being overlooked and it should not be. this reminds me of the patriots and their offensive line coach, Daunte scharnecchia. it’s like both these teams have hidden secret weapons behind the scenes.

  68. It does not seem plausible that it went down like that. He makes it seem like he made one statement and that was the reply and he left. 3 seconds. Not likely. There must have been some talk (by both) with his agent. I don’t doubt that Colbert said that but I do question the scenario surrounding the statement.

  69. xiiprestige says:
    March 22, 2019 at 6:05 pm
    In 2014 while being #2WR and playing with a good QB he went for 1404 yds AB had 1600 but AB had 28 more rec and did not have another good WR next to him, ES is clearly a top WR when he has a QB.

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    Its not like he had Peyton Manning throwing to him and Demarius Thomas taking all the double teams in 2014…

    The on the field production has been pretty awful the last 4 years. He could not stay on the field and when he was there he was not very good. The QB excuses are fine, but a player like DeAndre Hopkins still rakes with bad QBs. Calvin Johnson raked on an 0-16 team.

    Sanders is a very bad #1 or a decent #2.
    He is currently overpaid which is why the Broncos considered cutting him.
    We will see if he was worth the money come January.

  70. Brutal honesty. Would he rather be coddled and lied to? Like the players and owners say, its a business. Sometimes the truth is hard to hear. Sanders is a good player. But he isn’t AB. Just the truth.

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    Idiotic. All he had to do is say “I’m sorry, but that is the best we can do.” There was no reason to insult the man. Ignoring completely the rules of common decency, you are going to have to play against this guy if you let him walk. Why give him a personal vendetta?

  71. everyone taking ES word as truth. Its fashionable these days to bash the steelers. Ben is gonna rip up all defenses he faces next year. All those receivers who left Pitt what did they do w/o Ben? seriously ask yourself that

  72. Steelers organization is a dumpster fire right now. Great to see after years of everyone hyping them up. It’s going to get ugly there in the years ahead.

  73. Steelers fans defend their sinking ship. Doesn’t matter than Sanders isnt AB. He is a top level WR who won a Super Bowl after he left.

    The point is that is a classless thing for a GM to say to a player. I know when most people don’t get a contract or renewed at any job there is a level of respect you show.

    The Steelers are turning into the clown show the Browns were until recently. Who is going to want to sign there?

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