Sheriff expects Kraft video to be released, eventually

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Law enforcement officials in Florida seem to be intent on releasing to the public a very private and sensitive video involving Patriots owner Robert Kraft.

Via NBCSportsBoston.com, Martin County, Florida sheriff William Snyder believes that the videos created when Kraft and other men visited a day spa for allegedly paid sex acts will eventually see the light of day.

I do think ultimately they are probably going to get released,” Snyder told Scott Zamost of CNBC.

The statement comes at a time when Kraft has reportedly refused a deal that would dismiss solicitation of prostitution charges in exchange for an acknowledgement that Kraft would have been found guilty at trial, and at a time when Kraft seems to be intent on fighting the case in order to secure a full exoneration. And Snyder seems to be warning Kraft that, even if he wins, he still loses.

“Once a case is over, it’s not an ongoing investigation,” Snyder said. “There has to be a specific reason not to release a public record. And the fact that there is sexual activity is not an exemption.”

Of course, Snyder’s interpretation of the law is far from binding. Kraft’s lawyers have filed a motion to suppress all evidence in the case, and it will be up to a judge to decide whether the videos were obtained legally or illegitimately. If it’s determined that the procedures for secretly creating these videos violate applicable legal standards, the argument would be that the otherwise public records should remain private.

113 responses to “Sheriff expects Kraft video to be released, eventually

  1. It is a warning shot to Kraft, that if he keeps on playing hard ball instead of just agreeing to the plea bargain, he can see his video being circulated on the internet.

  2. “and it will be up to a judge to decide whether the videos were obtained legally or illegitimately.”

    I highly doubt LE proceeded to video without a judges Warrant.

  3. trolltoll11 says:
    March 22, 2019 at 4:56 pm
    Another example of the continued devolving of our society into full fledged idiocracy. When will the madness end.

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    Pretty sick, isn’t it? It’s also obvious he was frsmed/set up to go in there with someone who knew they were filming.

    What are the odds he was only in there when they were filming? They had to have known he was planning on going in there.

  4. I am just waiting to see posts by the usual posters jumping up on their soapbox making this out to be something more than it is. Did you read anything about sex trafficking? Nope but that will not deter idiots bringing it up in their posts.

  5. I love to see the Sheriff play hardball with the billionaire “You don’t want to accept our sweetheart deal? Fine, we’ll release the video for the whole world to see”

    Good on you, Sheriff!

  6. It would be great is society (media, cops, politicians, DA, Pope) spent as much time on catholic priest and predators in the home, as they do on 2 consenting adults in a massage parlor. Especially one in which they set up cameras for 6 months and then shut it down once they nabbed the guy with the high profile name. What a country!

  7. Not sure why anyone would actually want to watch this video even if it is out there. You’ll never be able to forget what your eyes see…..

  8. I live in Martin county and the tape will be shown until a donation is given to the re-election of the Sheriff

  9. Don’t full around in Mayberry, Sheriff Taylor and Barney gonna get ya! The extremely rich truly believe they can make everything go away , regardless, how do you put yourself in this position in the first place? Hours before your team is playing in a Championship game! Really, Mr Kraft!

  10. Amazing!!! Even Law Enforcement is threatening him. Ridiculous! The entire department should and will be sued if it ever gets out. Every video tape of the place was 100% illegal. And they wonder why law enforcement get a bad name….this is deplorable for the sheriff to announce

  11. rpw84 says:
    March 22, 2019 at 5:32 pm
    Don’t full around in Mayberry, Sheriff Taylor and Barney gonna get ya! The extremely rich truly believe they can make everything go away , regardless, how do you put yourself in this position in the first place? Hours before your team is playing in a Championship game! Really, Mr Kraft!

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    Geesh. The guy is 78 years old. I think he should be given an award for wanting to fool around at his age. George Burns once said having sex at his age was like shooting pool with a rope.
    Seriously — I repeat — unless these women were forced into doing what they were doing, to me it’s not much of a story. They were probably making more off Kraft than if they were walking the streets where their lives could be in danger, so that’s why I don’t think it’s all that big of a deal.

  12. Kraft needn’t worry.

    There’s nothing that a generous donation to the Police Benevolent Foundation can’t fix.

  13. “It’s really hard to make a multi billionaire sympathetic”

    Not if you’re a Pats fan. What’s a little human trafficking? Boys will be boys, right?

  14. I sense a conspiracy. Because the NFL, every state outside of New England, all state a Federal government staff around the country, major governments, and ancient aliens have it out for the Patriots.

    Oh, and don’t forget the homeless guy who apparently lobbied for the drafting of Manziel. He hates them too.

  15. “Pretty sick, isn’t it? It’s also obvious he was frsmed/set up”

    A new low for Pats fans. Alibiing for human trafficking.

  16. You don’t seem to be as eager for this video as the one that supposedly showed Dez at Walmart. You were foaming at the mouth for that one. Why the difference? It’s nice to never have to face tough questions in person, isn’t it? lol

  17. imaduffer says:

    Play it on the jumbotron everytime the refs review a play.
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    When the Patriots are on the road, the home team should play it when they run out of the tunnel.

  18. Everybody acts like the Sheriff got on TV and made a random threat. He was asked directly if the video will be released. Florida Law (like nearly every State) says that all evidence is made Public AFTER a case has come to a conclusion. So the Sheriff said he imagines it will be released because typically Sexual Activity hasn’t been enough of a reason for a Judge to seal videos in the past. Whether or not this gets released will not be up to the Sheriff. It will be whether or not someone makes a public data request AFTER the has concluded and whether or not Kraft’s attorney can get them sealed

  19. I am 100% in favor of any rich man being exposed and held responsible for something they think they can get away with because of their privilege.

  20. There have been no inditements for human trafficking, no arrests for human trafficking…….absolutely nothing!!!
    That ANGLE/STORY IS NONEXISTENT……it NEVER existed…. just sensationalism by the police department to make their bust sound more than what it really was……5 minutes of fame……
    & it sure did sound like a veiled threat by the sherif & with Krafts high profile lawyers I’m sure the sheriffs dept. will be getting some threats of their own should any video find its way to the public…..

  21. That’s how Kim Kardashian got famous. Don’t know why anyone would want to watch a 77 year old man but that’s another story.

  22. Dear God: As someone who doesn’t know RK or support his football team, can I please ask that we don’t ever have the opportunity to see a grainy surveillance video of a 77 year old getting “relaxed” by a few 50+ year old women?

    Sincerely,

    Everyone with eyes

  23. I think you are missing the real takeaway here: He’s saying the tape isn’t just of Kraft at the front desk of the supposed “spa” but that it shows him engaged in a sex act while there.

  24. If the Spa made the videotapes, then they own them . They should hire an intellectual property lawyer to copyright them as proprietary properly- which necessarily would make the videos a federal issue outside the jurisdiction of local law enforcement.

  25. This is good, because Kraft has the money and resources to fight this up to the Supreme Court. Law Enforcement are abusing these sneak and peak warrants, and because of these abuses, these type of warrants should be found unconstitutional.

    People go to these massage parlors for legitimate purposes as well, and they were recorded in various states of undress. I wonder if a news org could find out how often these sneak and peek warrants were issued in that county? It possible that Law Enforcement has already claimed organized theft in malls and are recording people in dressing rooms or bathrooms. We shouldn’t have to worry that the govt could be video recording us in dressing rooms, locker rooms, bathrooms… etc. Its an invasion of privacy and it needs to be stopped.

  26. tylawspick6 says:
    March 22, 2019 at 5:03 pm
    trolltoll11 says:
    March 22, 2019 at 4:56 pm
    Another example of the continued devolving of our society into full fledged idiocracy. When will the madness end.

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    Pretty sick, isn’t it? It’s also obvious he was frsmed/set up to go in there with someone who knew they were filming.

    What are the odds he was only in there when they were filming? They had to have known he was planning on going in there.

    The odds he was only in there when they were filming? Probably 0.0. He’s been there many, many times. LIke most criminals, you only hear about when they get caught. Major crime? No. But still a crime. The major crime will be if he walks.

  27. vaphinfan says:
    March 22, 2019 at 6:23 pm
    Any kind of evidence involving a patriot always seems to disappear.
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    More like fabricated & twisted to make it more then it ever was…. kind of like the sheriffs dept claiming this was a sex trafficking operation when to this date, no formal charges for that have been issued……

  28. I can accept the comments which focus on what Kraft and others did as being wrong. But those who are slamming him because he’s rich and all others who are rich annoy me. Why? Because this country is based on working hard to become successful, so when people do that, I applaud them, not tear them down.
    We are a country which is filled with people whose mentality is I want what you have, even though I didn’t work to get it. It’s why this country is going in the dumpster.
    Mr. Kraft was a huge Patriots fan long before he was able to buy the team. He worked to be able to buy the team and fulfilled a dream by doing it, then kept it in New England when it looked like it would have to be moved to another city. I think that’s admirable.
    Is he wrong for paying for sex? (IF he’s guilty as charged)? . Yes, according to our laws.
    But let’s not make him out to be more than what he is — a lonely old man who lost the lost of his life when his wife died.
    Again, I preface what I am saying by pointing out if any woman was forced into doing what these women were allegedly doing, that is a whole other ball game and it’s much more serious than I am saying it is from what I know now.
    By the way — let’s send hand held cameras out to follow all the players this weekend who are going out to clubs and places like that and see what they are doing. My guess is it will be every bit as scandalous and even more so than what Kraft is alleged to have done.

  29. (All perps’ videos should be released??) would they release videos of people nobody cares about? Kraft video should be released and plastered everywhere. Just so atleast he is publicly shamed like every other important person on TMZ in case he gets off Scott free judicially.

  30. charger383 says:
    March 22, 2019 at 6:47 pm
    when 78 years old you are, this good you will not be
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    He’s not that good, he got caught! Film don’t lie.

  31. I thought this was all about sex trafficking (0 arrests for that)? No, what’s important now is releasing a video of a 70 year old widow w a 40 and 60 yrs old consenting adults.

  32. kissbillsrings says:
    March 22, 2019 at 7:02 pm
    vaphinfan says:
    March 22, 2019 at 6:23 pm
    Any kind of evidence involving a patriot always seems to disappear.
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    More like fabricated & twisted to make it more then it ever was…. kind of like the sheriffs dept claiming this was a sex trafficking operation when to this date, no formal charges for that have been issued……
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    Typical patriot fan. You could even have prove of Kraft and Goodell partying together at Krafts mansion and they still believe they don’t get special treatment. Because literally there are pictures of Goodell hanging with Kraft at his house on the internet.

  33. juan759 says:
    March 22, 2019 at 5:17 pm
    It would be great is society (media, cops, politicians, DA, Pope) spent as much time on catholic priest and predators in the home, as they do on 2 consenting adults in a massage parlor. Especially one in which they set up cameras for 6 months and then shut it down once they nabbed the guy with the high profile name. What a country!

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    2 consenting adults?!?! Since when are women who are victims of human trafficking considered consenting adults?

  34. This man got caught dead to rights, the legal system is so broken that he will somehow wiggle his way out of conviction. If that was any of us commenting or reading these comments we would all be charged and get the full sentence it warrants. Personally I don’t think he did anything wrong.. big deal he went to a rub n tug.. who really cares?!?!? It isn’t like he committed some violent crime. He paid for a service and that is all!! Big deal!

  35. deuce22222 says:
    2 consenting adults?!?! Since when are women who are victims of human trafficking considered consenting adults?
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    The trafficking is just a buzzword to make their efforts seem more important than they were. Think about it, if the police believed people were being victimized, why would the police allow it to continue to happen for 6-8 months?

    Apparently it worked. I am amazed that would rather watch an elderly man with two older women, rather than to get loud about our constitutionally guaranteed freedoms being trampled on. If Kraft loses, your right to privacy is gone. Govt video camera’s could be set up anywhere. Dressing rooms, locker rooms, bathrooms… etc.

  36. Some people don’t understand our justice system. They think it’s about what is fair and what is right. But it isn’t. What it’s about is doing everything you can to get out of the charges you are being tried for. That’s exactly what Kraft and his lawyers will do.
    I am reminded of the the guy who killed his parents and then threw himself on the mercy of the court because he was an orphan.
    Kraft will do everything his money will allow him to do to get out of this. It’s as simple as that and if you don’t understand that, you are not living in the 21st century.

  37. deuce22222 says:
    March 22, 2019 at 7:44 pm

    juan759 says:
    March 22, 2019 at 5:17 pm
    It would be great is society (media, cops, politicians, DA, Pope) spent as much time on catholic priest and predators in the home, as they do on 2 consenting adults in a massage parlor. Especially one in which they set up cameras for 6 months and then shut it down once they nabbed the guy with the high profile name. What a country!

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    2 consenting adults?!?! Since when are women who are victims of human trafficking considered consenting adults?

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    The two women he saw WERE. You people are so disingenuous and phony.

    Do you ask for resumes of strippers in the strip club, too, you liar?

  38. “You could even have prove of Kraft and Goodell partying together at Krafts mansion and they still believe they don’t get special treatment. Because literally there are pictures of Goodell hanging with Kraft at his house on the internet.”

    Guess you don’t realize that whenever Goodell attends a game he is usually invited to the home of the local team’s owner. He’s been to the house of almost every owner if not every owner at this point.

  39. derp363 says:
    March 22, 2019 at 5:28 pm

    nhpats, tylawpic6

    you both DESERVE this video to be released.

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    Do you have an old man fetish? It’s beyond creepy so many men on here are either virgins or want to see such a tape.

  40. Look past the football tribe bias and look at what these clowns are doing. Your rights to privacy are disappearing before your very eyes. One or two more Congressional elections like we just had, and we’ll be in full descent.

  41. As long as Kraft wasn’t party to any trafficking, I don’t understand the problem. It seems people want him to pay a stiffer penalty than players who have committed rape. Kraft paid to participate in consensual affection. God Bless America.

  42. Please stop with Peter King’s opinion. He can’t speak to the legal ramifications of the possibility there is no audio to prove Solicitation. Kraft can have sex if he wants in a massage parlor or any other private place. It’s not illegal. Proof of sex means nothing without proof of solicitation and you know that Mike. The Sheriff could risk the county being held libel if he releases the video. The freedom of information act is not absolute,there are exemptions.

  43. deuce22222 says:
    March 22, 2019 at 7:44 pm
    juan759 says:
    March 22, 2019 at 5:17 pm
    It would be great is society (media, cops, politicians, DA, Pope) spent as much time on catholic priest and predators in the home, as they do on 2 consenting adults in a massage parlor. Especially one in which they set up cameras for 6 months and then shut it down once they nabbed the guy with the high profile name. What a country!

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    2 consenting adults?!?! Since when are women who are victims of human trafficking considered consenting adults?

    Do you enjoy fake news every day of the week? Or just on Friday’s?

    The woman was 58 and is . wait for it . A US citizen. Did she traffic herself from her house to the spa? Is that what you consider trafficking? AND — She Owns the place! So yes she is a consenting adult. Its sad that you have tried to turn this into human trafficking for political benefit.. What a Country!. Up is down and down is up for so many in our society.. so sad.. so very sad.

  44. The Patriots are s morally corrupt organization with fans that care only about winning.

    If Kraft was a high character guy he would admit his guilt instead of trying to get the video suppressed and winning on a technicality. But then again high character people don’t solicit sex at massage parlors.

    Belicheat cheated and so did Brady. How many other times have they cheated and not been caught.

    Kraft needs to sell the team and bring in a real owner and start fresh.

    Most tainted franchise in the history of sports. Laughingstock of the spurts world.

  45. Nothing like the cops trying to blackmail a guy. Apparently he can’t be convicted of whatever went down so they’ll share the video of it so whoever wants to actually watch him getting serviced can. He’s a billionaire, even if he was magically forced to sell the Pats, he’s going to be even richer and keep making money from Gillette. I’m more surprised that a guy with his means needed to leave the house for it. I’d just have a massage wing built onto my mansion.

  46. No one wants to see this. Plus, if they get a motion to suppress and it gets sold or released, that Sheriff will be screwed. The legal issue is going to come down to the video warrant and it was supposedly granted using the DHS anti-terrorism laws. Since they haven’t filed a single human trafficking charge, their case is probably fairly weak. I think all of our eyes will be spared this. Releasing the video would be a crime to the rest of humanity.

  47. tylawspick6 says:
    March 22, 2019 at 8:14 pm
    deuce22222 says:
    March 22, 2019 at 7:44 pm

    juan759 says:
    March 22, 2019 at 5:17 pm
    It would be great is society (media, cops, politicians, DA, Pope) spent as much time on catholic priest and predators in the home, as they do on 2 consenting adults in a massage parlor. Especially one in which they set up cameras for 6 months and then shut it down once they nabbed the guy with the high profile name. What a country!

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    2 consenting adults?!?! Since when are women who are victims of human trafficking considered consenting adults?

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    5

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    The two women he saw WERE. You people are so disingenuous and phony.

    Do you ask for resumes of strippers in the strip club, too, you liar?

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    I don’t pay for sex. You people are pathetic. This guy is scum and you defend him.

  48. That entire police dept just likes to brag in front if cameras. They blew the investigation so Krafts name is their one little bright shiney object to wave around. That they did not hand over a video for discovery is interesting indeed. But if (if) there is one it will get out. Even if the court seals it a copy will get lifted and sold. There will be too much money being offered for that not to happen.

  49. juan759 says:
    March 22, 2019 at 8:41 pm
    deuce22222 says:
    March 22, 2019 at 7:44 pm
    juan759 says:
    March 22, 2019 at 5:17 pm
    It would be great is society (media, cops, politicians, DA, Pope) spent as much time on catholic priest and predators in the home, as they do on 2 consenting adults in a massage parlor. Especially one in which they set up cameras for 6 months and then shut it down once they nabbed the guy with the high profile name. What a country!

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    2 consenting adults?!?! Since when are women who are victims of human trafficking considered consenting adults?

    Do you enjoy fake news every day of the week? Or just on Friday’s?

    The woman was 58 and is . wait for it . A US citizen. Did she traffic herself from her house to the spa? Is that what you consider trafficking? AND — She Owns the place! So yes she is a consenting adult. Its sad that you have tried to turn this into human trafficking for political benefit.. What a Country!. Up is down and down is up for so many in our society.. so sad.. so very sad.

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    I agree. Down is clearly up in your case.

  50. omeimontis says:
    March 22, 2019 at 4:29 pm
    It is a warning shot to Kraft, that if he keeps on playing hard ball instead of just agreeing to the plea bargain, he can see his video being circulated on the internet.

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    I still think he could be bluffing. Because if they had the video they keep trying to imply they do then they would have had to provide it to the defense during discovery. But they didn’t. And now this guy is going to the media to talk about the case on the air. I actually do think Kraft is guilty simply because he was at the place. But as far as what law enforcement has I suspect it is nothing and they are just scrambling because after their bumbled investigation where they thought they were the CIA or something utterly failed to find what it was looking for, even their one little shiny object they got in their net by accident may also come up empty. I am beginning to think these cops have absolutely nothing other than Krafts name as ‘someone who was there’ and a reasonable suspicion with no evidence to back it. I think if they did have something they would have shut up and played it by the book.

  51. juan759 says:
    March 22, 2019 at 8:41 pm
    deuce22222 says:
    March 22, 2019 at 7:44 pm
    juan759 says:
    March 22, 2019 at 5:17 pm
    It would be great is society (media, cops, politicians, DA, Pope) spent as much time on catholic priest and predators in the home, as they do on 2 consenting adults in a massage parlor. Especially one in which they set up cameras for 6 months and then shut it down once they nabbed the guy with the high profile name. What a country!

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    2 consenting adults?!?! Since when are women who are victims of human trafficking considered consenting adults?

    Do you enjoy fake news every day of the week? Or just on Friday’s?

    The woman was 58 and is . wait for it . A US citizen. Did she traffic herself from her house to the spa? Is that what you consider trafficking? AND — She Owns the place! So yes she is a consenting adult. Its sad that you have tried to turn this into human trafficking for political benefit.. What a Country!. Up is down and down is up for so many in our society.. so sad.. so very sad.

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    “A 16-page affidavit was released Wednesday detailing the arrests of Hua Zhang, 58 of Winter Garden, and Lei Wang, 39 of Hobe Sound, who have suspected involvement in the sex trafficking operations at Orchids of Asia Day Spa in Martin County.

    Surveillance by the Florida Department of Health found that women appeared to be living in the businesses, including Zhang — who was listed as the registered agent for one of the locations.

    Authorities found the women were engaging in sexual acts, averaging eight clients a day 1,500 men a year, with no days off, Snyder said. The women slept on parlor tables, cooked in the back of the establishment and had no access to transportation, he said.”

    Sure sounds like human trafficking to me. Down is definitely up, my friend. Isn’t it?

  52. Perhaps Kraft doesn’t want the video to come out because it will show the world what lying sack of stuff he is. Bob man up tell the truth and move on.
    It really is that simple. If you can’t do the time then don’t do the crime.

  53. Odd that a case of international human trafficking is only being handled by the local sheriff. No FBI or Immigration, at least? And where are the trafficking charges? it’s been a month.
    Were the trafficking allegations what got them the warrant to videotape? What if you’re a woman who went in there for a bikini wax? You’re fine with being videotaped without your knowledge?

  54. While reading these comments it is funny how each and every Patriot fan defends this incident yet if it were the owner of the Steelers or the Colts they would RIP them apart and want them removed from the league..hahaha
    However, as a Miami fan myself, I still stand by the fact that I do not believe the man did anything wrong. How was he to know IF there was some sort of trafficking going on??? He went to a jack shack !! BIG DEAL.. if this was anyone else, we would not hear a thing about it. Why aren’t the police or media ripping the other men apart that were taped?? This is silly and if Goodell opens up some year long investigation he is even dumber then he looks. Fine the man or whatver to keep the snowflakes and women happy and let’s move on to football. This man has built a dynasty and empire in NE and pumped more into the economy in NE then anyone can imagine. Slap him on the wrist and let’s move on to football.

  55. What I find strange is how many prudes there are on this website. Prostitution is as old as humanity, might as well legalize it as it’s obviously not going away as long as there are men with money and women willing to have sex to get it. And legalizing prostitution would cut down on the human trafficking, unfortunately it wouldn’t eliminate it.

  56. “A 16-page affidavit was released Wednesday detailing the arrests of Hua Zhang, 58 of Winter Garden, and Lei Wang, 39 of Hobe Sound, who have suspected involvement in the sex trafficking operations at Orchids of Asia Day Spa in Martin County.

    Surveillance by the Florida Department of Health found that women appeared to be living in the businesses, including Zhang — who was listed as the registered agent for one of the locations.

    Authorities found the women were engaging in sexual acts, averaging eight clients a day 1,500 men a year, with no days off, Snyder said. The women slept on parlor tables, cooked in the back of the establishment and had no access to transportation, he said.”

    Sure sounds like human trafficking to me. Down is definitely up, my friend. Isn’t it?

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    Both women, regardless how they lived, were US citizens and had drivers licenses. They could come and go as they pleased. They also between them owned and operated the business that you are suggesting was teafficking them. So you are suggesting a person trafficked themself?

    The reason the feds opted not to join in on this one when asked was because they knew it was just a couple women hooking out of their massage parlir and not a trafficking ring. But the local Leos wanted the glory so tried to press forward on their own. These local leos can write all the papers they want but they really dont have anything other than some low level solicitation. Note also that even after all this has broken the feds are still even now holding their distance. If there was really trafficking, even a hint, the feds would be wading right in with charges of their own.

  57. The Sheriff is a certifiable idiot…no one should be seeing this video, to what end would it serve any purpose…go catch real criminals, loser.

  58. finzfan49 says:
    March 23, 2019 at 5:23 am
    While reading these comments it is funny how each and every Patriot fan defends this incident yet if it were the owner of the Steelers or the Colts they would RIP them apart and want them removed from the league..hahaha

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    You have that wrong. If it wasn’t for the opponents there would be no fun in rooting for the Patriots. Long live the Steelers, long live the Colts. May both do well to rise up and become tough opponents again so we fans can enjoy exciting games.

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