No movement on effort to get NFLPA to agree to loan players to AAF, XFL

AP

The final two games of the Alliance of American Football’s eighth week could still be its final two games ever.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, there has been no movement regarding efforts to persuade the NFL Players Association to agree to a program that would result in NFL teams loaning certain back-of-roster players to the AAF (and the XFL). Which means that the supposed Hail Mary for the AAF could be landing flat, enhancing the chances of dissolution by the start of the 2020 season — and possibly resulting in the plug being pulled before next weekend.

While it’s unclear whether the availability of, essentially, NFL practice-squad players would keep the AAF afloat (some think it won’t matter), the unavailability of players falling somewhere between 53 and 90 on the pecking order of NFL rosters makes the end of the AAF more likely.

More accurately, it makes majority owner Tom Dundon’s willingness to continue to pump money into the operation less likely, forcing the AAF to find another savior (like it did when it found Dundon) in order to stay afloat.

Dundon signed on after a prior investor bailed. Barring a significant reversal, the AAF eventually will run out of potential investors. Which means it eventually will run out of money. Which means it eventually will run out of time.

17 responses to “No movement on effort to get NFLPA to agree to loan players to AAF, XFL

  1. It would be a real shame. That said I find it terrible that a league starts like this, it seems knowingly, without having the necessary parameters in place for success.

    I hope for the sake of the players and football fans the XFL can launch in better shape or pushes back its opening after they get the necessary deal done.

  2. Vince McMahon could potentially be a buyer he did buy WCW and ECW he’s committed 100 Million to the XFL and he can literally print money. I don’t think the XFL will have the same problem because they’re allowing college players.

  3. I don’t understand this. What difference does it make it if they get NFL bench players? They already have players who aren’t worth watching. This is just a chance for the AAF to put the blame on someone else

  4. Why would the NFL do this? Why get your players injured before the season even starts. These are the players you rely on when injury bug bites your roster. I haven’t seen anything from the AAF that suggested they had any kind of real plan here. XFL will suffer the same fate if they start their season right after the Super Bowl and don’t get their teams to play anything that looks like real football.

  5. If the NFL wants the AAF to stick around for whatever reason, they’ll have no problem coming up with the money, or the TV contracts to do so. NFL football is the most watched programming on TV, so those NFL TV deals are crucial to the networks. The networks will do as they’re told when it comes to televising the AAF. It’s kind of like if you want me you have to take my little brother too. And the networks definitely want the NFL. This is much ado about nothing. I’m thinking the NFL wants to keep the AAF around to provide potential replacement players if the NFLPA decides to try a strike. There are many potential Tom Dundon’s walking around. Jerry Jones could cover the costs with his pocket change.

  6. Imagine starting a company and ask your competitor to borrow their staff to help make money and try to put you out of business.

  7. There is a ton of players that play college ball that dont get in to the NFL or CFL just get the best guys you can I like having football to watch in March

  8. Tom Dundon seems kinda flakey. He bought the biz in Early Feb wants to shut it down 6 weeks later? AT least get through the season and then negotiate. Some one called him the worst negotiator ever. I believe it.

    Does he want an agreement before the Draft? Is he worried about the XFL next year? If neither why hit the panic button and hurt yourself? The AAF players are signed to 3 year contracts – the current ones cant go to XFL. He even caught the founders off guard.

    Never seen anything like it.

  9. some of them dont even want them playing basketball, you think they’d want them going full contact in some league that doesnt even matter??

  10. “College find enough players to put out a good product, why can’t the AAF find any players”

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    I’m confused by why you’re confused. All of the players in college want to play in NFL. The best ones end up there. And a lot of those best ones get cut, and end up in the AAF or some other minor league when it’s around. Fewer of those guys are willing to play in the AAF if there’s no possibility to go the NFL. And if the NFLPA doesn’t want its players in the AAF, there will be no way to get more. Nobody is going to eschew their chance to play in the NFL to play in the AAF. They all want to end up there.

  11. ak185 says:
    March 31, 2019 at 6:02 pm
    “College find enough players to put out a good product, why can’t the AAF find any players”

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    I’m confused by why you’re confused. All of the players in college want to play in NFL. The best ones end up there. And a lot of those best ones get cut, and end up in the AAF or some other minor league when it’s around. Fewer of those guys are willing to play in the AAF if there’s no possibility to go the NFL. And if the NFLPA doesn’t want its players in the AAF, there will be no way to get more. Nobody is going to eschew their chance to play in the NFL to play in the AAF. They all want to end up there.
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    I’m confused about what you don’t get – these are futures and practice squad players not 3 stringers – with a new set of draftees coming just 4 months away each AAF season. The weekly pay rate in AAF is $7k vs $7-8K for practice squad player. Who passes up money?
    And being a starter in AAF gets you more playing time and more potential to get noticed than a 3rd row bench warmer.

  12. Which means Vince can buy it for pennies on the dollar, rebrand and relocate some teams, and already have a jumpstart on the XFL.

    And have exactly the same problem eventually if this issue isn’t resolved….

  13. From what I’ve read, the original idea of the AAF was to EVENTUALLY build a product compelling enough that the NFL would be interested in picking up their players (making it a de facto D League) and NFL players would be interested in the AAF as a way to make it back to The Show or get another shot to play.

    When Dundon came in, evidently the quid pro quo for his cash infusion was to partner with the NFL yesterday, which the NFL has no interest or compulsion to do at this point.

    I think Ebersol and Polian had a good idea, but the financing was shaky. When you have to go begging for money, you are at the mercy of your lender.

  14. “And being a starter in AAF gets you more playing time and more potential to get noticed than a 3rd row bench warmer”

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    Noticed by whom? If you’re barred from in the NFL, who’s going to notice you? That’s the entire point of being noticed, and the entire point of playing in the AAFL.

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