Aaron Rodgers, Mike McCarthy tension dated back to 2005

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It had been believed for years that the problems between Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers and former Packers coach Mike McCarthy predated his hiring in 2006. The excellent story on more than a decade of Green Bay dysfunction from Tyler Dunne of BleacherReport.com reveals that it does.

Dunne explains that Rodgers could never get over McCarthy’s role in Rodgers’ extended stay in the Radio City green room during the 2005 draft, when McCarthy served as the 49ers’ offensive coordinator, and when the 49ers picked Alex Smith over Rodgers.

“Aaron’s always had a chip on his shoulder with Mike,” former Packers running back Ryan Grant told Dunne. “The guy who ended up becoming your coach passed on you when he had a chance Aaron was upset that Mike passed on him — that Mike actually verbally said that Alex Smith was a better quarterback.”

So when McCarthy became the Green Bay coach in 2006, the notoriously sensitive Rodgers arrived at the relationship bearing a world-class grudge.

“Nobody holds a grudge in any sport like Rodgers,” Dunne writes. “When it comes to Rodgers, grudges do not merrily float away. They stick. They grow. They refuel.”

That grudge apparently influenced Rodgers’ opinions toward McCarthy for their entire time together. Per Dunne, a “person who was close to Rodgers” recalls that Rodgers “would regularly call to vent that McCarthy didn’t have a clue what he was doing.”

“Mike has a low football IQ, and that used to always bother Aaron,” the source told Dunne. “He’d say Mike has one of the lowest IQs, if not the lowest IQ, of any coach he’s ever had.”

Dunne characterizes Rodgers as “conflict-averse” and “passive-aggressive to the extreme.” That dynamic became obvious during the 2016 season, when Rodgers complained about the lack of energy on the sideline (without pointing out the obvious fact that the sideline is controlled by McCarthy) and the lack of a healthy fear among players that failure to do their jobs will get them fired (without pointing out that such fear should be instilled by McCarthy). Rodgers specifically dismissed our analysis of his passive-aggressive power play as “crap,” but it clearly wasn’t.

Unless Dunne’s reporting is crap. And it clearly isn’t.

129 responses to “Aaron Rodgers, Mike McCarthy tension dated back to 2005

  1. Wow! For as big of a train wreck as this seems to have actually been, they sure kept a pretty good lid on it for, you know, like 14 YEARS!!

  2. It’s a shame the coach gets fired before the athlete. This is why we have so many premaddonas in sports.

  3. As a total Packer fan for a long long time, I agree with much of what this report says. It confirms some of the things that I was seeing.

  4. 49ers weren’t the only team to pass on Rodgers. Not sure why Rodgers would directly attribute his falling in the draft to Mccarthy, which I’m sure was not the only voice in the 9ers war room that day. Then again, this is the same man that has essentially isolated himself away from his own biological family, so character is definitely a concern.

  5. this is getting carried away.. there is no doubt in my mind half of the Rodgers negative reports are coming from the McCarthy camp and McCarthy defenders, that said same can be said for things about McCarthy.

  6. I understand that team dynamics are shifting sands, and that there’s no way we’ll know everything…but…
    I’m surprised that this went on so long.
    Even with 2 head-strong alpha dogs butting heads, you would think that the team its self would demand they find a middle ground.
    when people deride “Team Chemistry” as a joke, read this article!

  7. Who cares? The guy is out of the job and Rodgers is still Packers Qb. Gotta love the dead time before combine and draft they have to fill with bs articles. Yes i clicked just to write this rant. 🙂

  8. I can understand Rodgers being resentful initially, but seeing what a disaster the 49ers were at the time, and how being chosen by them almost destroyed Smith’s career, Rodgers should at some level feel pretty fortunate he didn’t have to go through all the nonsense Smith did just to stabilize what should have been a successful career from the start.

  9. As far from World Class as possible…and people thought Cleveland was dysfunctional, Green Bay says hold my beer. 4th in the North, count on it.

  10. It went back to 2005!!! Rodgers was a nobody from nowhere then. Some of this story has to be nonsense. No way that kind of animosity could last 14 years and span a Super Bowl and two NFC Championships.

  11. ariani1985 says:
    April 4, 2019 at 2:32 pm
    2005 is the last time the packers won a meaningful playoff game! Let that sink in!

    They won the Super Bowl in 2010. What is a ‘meaningful playoff game’?

  12. ariani1985 says:
    April 4, 2019 at 2:32 pm

    2005 is the last time the packers won a meaningful playoff game! Let that sink in!

    ÷÷÷÷÷÷÷

    I am a Viking fan and can’t stand the Packers, much less their fans, but this comment is just dumb.

  13. The more you hear about A A Ron the less he seems to be a good, likable person.
    Between this stuff, his family drama, former teammates talking about him.
    I know the Rodgers backing fanboys always blame the other side, but come on, he’s the common thing in all the drama.

  14. In other words if you don’t go out of your way to proclaim him the greatest of all time at any point in time, then he’s got a problem with you. That certainly explains the directive set by the Packers his entire run there where criticism wasn’t allowed. And its funny how even when Mike McCarthy went out of his way for 15 years proclaiming him the best and a “hell of a quarterback” and cited hail mary’s as evidence of him being #1, Rodgers still held onto that grudge for the audacity of not picking him #1.

  15. 2005 is the last time the packers won a meaningful playoff game! Let that sink in!

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    At least they had a meaningful playoff game. Say, how many Super Bowl trophies do you have over there in Minnesota? Oh, that’s right, none. Let THAT sink in!!!

  16. I have to laugh. I still don’t understand why the trolls think this opinion piece should bother Packer fans. Why should it? What’s it telling us, that Rodgers is too competitive? Darn! Tell me it isn’t so!

    One thing that is crystal clear. The Viking trolls don’t just want to hate. They NEED to hate. The jealousies of the multi-decade reign of the Packers drives them crazy. They want so much for us to understand and feel the frustration and shortcomings that are all too familiar to them. They want us to feel it too.

    Keep wishing, hoping, and praying, and good luck with that.

  17. If this were Pittsburgh, the blame would be only on Ben but because it’s Green Bay, Rodgers will get a pass and be called a great leader.

  18. I’ll give Coach McCarthy credit for winning a Super Bowl in 2010. That’s hard to do. But only getting to the Super Bowl once in his tenure with some of the teams he had is underachieving. Some of that is on the players for sure, but there’s a fair amount on him too and he has to recognize that.

  19. This is a guy who told his own parents and siblings not to contact him, who returned Christmas presents they sent him unopened. This is his MO.

    He is a great QB.

    He is also insecure and holds grudges.

  20. Nolan made the decision. He thought Smith would turn out to be a better QB. Those kind of decisions have to be made all the time.

  21. I can understand how Rodgers couldn’t get along with McCarthy. But Olivia Munn?!!? What’s up with that?

  22. Oh this is Delicious here in Viking-land. The Packers eating their own.
    Packer fans are insufferable. And truly believe they have the best organization, the best stadium, the best fans and of course the best Coach (whomever that coach is) and QB in the NFL.

    This rift does not and cannot fit in their minds.

  23. It’s a shame the coach gets fired before the athlete. This is why we have so many premaddonas in sports.

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    The best premadonna was Debbie Harry of Blondie.

  24. The article is riddled with comparisons to Brady… Are you kidding? Rodgers has (or at least had) immense talent. So what. Brady has 6 Super Bowls and has been to 9. All the “what if’s” by former players in there are a joke. Acting like if Rodgers he had a better coach or a better team he would have 6 Super Bowls is so ridiculous. There’s only one player in the history of the NFL with 6. Also, now Mahomes just came in and launched his career with a Brady/Manning-like all time type season, isn’t Rodgers taking a back seat to the real next NFL super star?

  25. Can you trust the word of a guy who won’t even talk to this own family?
    Who didn’t even call them after the fires blew past his parents house last year??

    Sorry….I’m no McCarthy fan, but not taking Rodgers word for anything.

  26. A Rod is a legend in his own mind,almost God like, but, in actuality, he just a very talented young boy. Kids hold grudges, it should have been apparent to the world watching him in the infamous “green room”. The fact that he never moved past that day says everything about him. The guy has issues. He believes he is second to no one and his arrogance oozes out of his mouth every time he gives a smug answer. The problem in Greenbay is their best player, who never has been checked, or checked himself.

  27. ariani1985 says:
    April 4, 2019 at 2:29 pm
    I can hear the packer trolls heads exploding!
    Bwaaaaaaaaah!
    ________________________________

    Nice try. The Packers remain, have always been, and will always be better than your team. That’s why they have 13 titles and your team has zero.

  28. “The story that I heard, and I don’t know if it’s true or not, was that Mike Nolan said that when he saw Alex open the car door for his mom, he knew that was the quarterback he wanted,” Rodgers said.

  29. Isnt it enough for you haters that Rodgers best days are behind him, and that he’s not likely to win squat for the rest of his career?

    Just leave Aaron Rodgers alone… sniffle.. sniffle..

  30. The difference between Rodegrs and Brady is Belichick the GM and Coach.

    Rodgers would have 6 rings by now if he had BB the GM and Coach.

    – Diehard Pats fan for almost 40 years

  31. But the 49ers liked Smith’s size (6-foot-4) and athleticism.

    “Obviously that was a mistake because [Rodgers is] a Hall of Fame quarterback,” Mike Nolan, the 49ers coach at the time, said this summer. “What we saw with Alex, we thought over time he would get better because he was so young, which he has done. That’s what we were banking on. What we missed on is that they [the Niners] didn’t give us enough time to stay around. Had we used his skill set like we should have, then we would have bought ourselves time.

    “He was out there with not a great surrounding cast. We were trying to build something from absolutely nothing and that made it doubly hard on Alex.”

  32. Love all the pots calling the kettles black. The high and mighty Packer fans sure are sensitive this off season. Oh, and here is where they’ll try and impress me with their “13 time world championship” drivel. I’d like to see one of them post one of their arrogant posts without looking at a thesaurus for every other word.

  33. This is what happens when there is no real owner. Of any of the other 31 teams, one of them would have been gone long ago. Great QB’s are very hard to come by and it looks like Green Bay wasted about 6 to 7 years because no one could make a reasonable decision.

    Good coaches deal with divas everyday, it is called people skills and clearly McCarthy does not have those and it is quite telling that a “Super Bowl” winning, supposedly offense minded coach (if Aaron’s scrambling was part of the play) wasn’t even really considered for any job openings this year.

  34. You know the Packers have lost the trolling war when they can only respond with their championship numbers…most accomplished with a 4 team league. Things getting really pathetic on and off the field for Green Bay and their fans.

  35. I can understand how Rodgers couldn’t get along with McCarthy. But Olivia Munn?!!? What’s up with that?
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    Whats the problem with upgrading (Kelly Rohrbach)

  36. Rodgers is a great player, but the more i read about him as a person. the dude seems like a world class D-bag

  37. Aaron’s pettiness ruins most of his relationships. Seems like a miserable guy to be around.

  38. Aside from Brady’s skills, his strength of character also make him a rarity. He is a very big man in many ways. As successful as he is, he is still humble, takes ownership of his errors, and works relentlessly with Belichick and staff for the best interest of the team, swallowing his pride for the good of the team.

  39. Nice try. The Packers remain, have always been, and will always be better than your team. That’s why they have 13 titles and your team has zero.

    But we are taking about right now. Not the good ol days when the pack with Rodgers was a scary team, now teams aren’t nervous to play them anymore. We are talking about a team with so little talent that it will probably be years before they can turn this thing around and by then Rodgers will be washed up. He already seems to be getting brittle and didn’t look like himself last year, is he already on the decline??

  40. Imagine Belichick telling A-Rod to just Do His Job. The pout would have been legendary!
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    He never would have lost a Super Bowl.

    Never would have lost to Manning either.

  41. Hey ariani1985, you conveniently forgot the 3 road playoff wins in 2010 that led to Winning of Super Bowl XLV. You must know what a Super Bowl is. Your team has lost 4 of them.

  42. Aside from Brady’s skills, his strength of character also make him a rarity.
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    Agreed.

    We’ve never seen such an unethical champion.

  43. I’m a Pats fan not a Packers fan, but this article seems ridiculously full of holes. No doubt Rodgers is a mercurial guy, but the notion that this would have gone on so long is silly. Rodgers certainly would have had the cache in the organization to have McCarthy fired long ago, and if true why on earth would Rodgers sign TWO contracts, other than the Pats, ANY team would give him just about anything he wanted to come to their team. It just seems like nonsense.

  44. Why is no one talking to Olivia Munn about any of this? She’s for sure got insight.

  45. This article simply reinforces some of the issues that were fairly apparent to all, although admittedly I have always thought the Rodgers/MM difficulties were over-blown. After reading this article, I’m now wondering if that was mistaken.

  46. I love this!!!! I love that it is causing the usual suspect Viking trolls to crap rubber nickels! Love it!

  47. lol.. I’ll take Aaron even if he’s a 100x worse than they claim. The offense was basically the same for 10 years, during which ARODG make millions for at best mediocre WR. Greg Jennings, Driver, Jordy Nelson etc. That team gave him a frickin WR to play running back two years ago. Yet,

    Career highlights and awards
    Super Bowl champion (XLV)
    Super Bowl MVP (XLV)
    2× NFL Most Valuable Player (2011, 2014)
    7× Pro Bowl (2009, 2011, 2012, 2014–2016, 2018)
    2× First-team All-Pro (2011, 2014)
    Second-team All-Pro (2012)
    Associated Press Athlete of the Year (2011)
    Bert Bell Award (2011)
    2× NFL passer rating leader (2011, 2012)
    NFL passing touchdowns leader (2016)
    NFL records
    103.1 passer rating, career
    122.5 passer rating, season (2011)
    4.23:1 touchdown-to-interception ratio, career
    1.5 lowest interception percentage, career
    0.3 lowest interception percentage, season (2018)
    402 consecutive passes without an interception

  48. So this was the real qb/coach drama going on behind the scenes…yet mainstream media kept claiming it was Belichick and Brady throwing fits and being on the outs. Go figure.

  49. cheeseisfattening says:
    April 4, 2019 at 3:42 pm
    Aaron Rodgers is a small, petty man
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Knowing it takes one to know one, I will await confirmation the next time I see him.

  50. If you were a coach who would you rather coach Smith or Rodgers?
    That’s what I thought so maybe he did’nt get it wrong.
    Seems like 1 A Alex has more character than 2 A Aaron.
    Just ask teammates or their own family.

  51. Seems like Rodgers enmity towards McCarthy worked out pretty well – it fueled him to maximize his potential. As much as I admire John Elway and Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers is the best qb I’ve ever seen.

  52. boiler72 says:
    April 4, 2019 at 2:59

    Nice try. The Packers remain, have always been, and will always be better than your team. That’s why we have 13 titles.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    That’s the best you can do? No one cares about 9 of “your” championships. Leather helmets and 10 teams which all played a different number of games during the season. It sounds like the AAF back then. Yawn.

  53. So Rodgers is a bit of a diva and McCarthy is an arse that helped fudge up the QB pick in San Fran and then checked out when he found out GB was the diva QBs team and not his?

    Is this new(s)?

  54. sportoficionado said”
    April 4, 2019 at 2:29 pm

    “49ers weren’t the only team to pass on Rodgers. Not sure why Rodgers would directly attribute his falling in the draft to Mccarthy, which I’m sure was not the only voice in the 9ers war room that day. Then again, this is the same man that has essentially isolated himself away from his own biological family, so character is definitely a concern.”

    I think Rodgers comes off as an arrogant jerk. That said, no one knows what goes on in any family. Maybe, just maybe, Rodgers has legitimate reason if he has indeed isolated himself from his family.

  55. The media = ALWAYS stirring the pot for their own profit.
    When Rodgers and McCarthy decline to do interviews…the very same media will cry about it to the fans.

  56. Anyone who rips Rodgers has no idea what he has and goes through everyday. He’s the best QB to ever play the game. He has known he’s been the best since day one. He could have been wagging his tongue telling everyone how wrong they were since college! He could have told the Niners he was better that Smith. He could have told the Packers fans he was better than Farve. He could have ripped his coach to media. He could be super obnoxious and nobody could say anything about it because he is the best!

    Instead, he’s been biting his tongue his entire career! Rodgers doesn’t have to tell people that he was right and that he is the best QB in the history of the NFL. He proves he is the best every week on the field with is play. And people want to criticize him for it?

    Live a day or the past 15 years in his shoes before you judge his actions.

  57. This report is true and you know why? Look at Aaron Rodgers’ relationship with his own family members. If you can’t even love your family, how are you expected to care about your teammates and coaches enough to win – while being a leader out on that field? It’s not practical.

  58. I refuse to believe ANY story that cites “unnamed sources”. Just ask CNN and MSNBC how well that works out for them. Can’t help but this this story is BS as well.

  59. dukesinhell says:
    April 4, 2019 at 3:45 pm

    lol.. I’ll take Aaron even if he’s a 100x worse than they claim. The offense was basically the same for 10 years, during which ARODG make millions for at best mediocre WR. Greg Jennings, Driver, Jordy Nelson etc. That team gave him a frickin WR to play running back two years ago. Yet,

    Career highlights and awards
    Super Bowl champion (XLV)
    Super Bowl MVP (XLV)
    2× NFL Most Valuable Player (2011, 2014)
    7× Pro Bowl (2009, 2011, 2012, 2014–2016, 2018)
    2× First-team All-Pro (2011, 2014)
    Second-team All-Pro (2012)
    Associated Press Athlete of the Year (2011)
    Bert Bell Award (2011)
    2× NFL passer rating leader (2011, 2012)
    NFL passing touchdowns leader (2016)
    NFL records
    103.1 passer rating, career
    122.5 passer rating, season (2011)
    4.23:1 touchdown-to-interception ratio, career
    1.5 lowest interception percentage, career
    0.3 lowest interception percentage, season (2018)
    402 consecutive passes without an interception

    _____________________________________________________________________

    Don’t forget how he started his career in the softest era of professional football, is 0-37 against teams with winning records in the 4th quarter when trailing by at least a single point, he led the league in throwaways last season, he posted his lowest QBR in his NFL career last season which was worse than any of Tom Brady’s performances dating back to 2001 despite playing in two different eras of football, and he has thrown 4 touchdowns to 5 interceptions in career NFC championship games. Tom Brady, Andrew Luck, Andy Dalton, Joe Flacco, Cam Newton, Russell Wilson, and other quarterbacks have more 4th quarter comebacks than Rodgers. Furthermore, he’s trailing a lot of these same quarterbacks for game-winning drives. Can you say overrated?

  60. “Mike has a low football IQ, and that used to always bother Aaron,”

    Well, to be fair, that should bother everyone. How is someone with a low football IQ supposed to be an effective head coach?

  61. No matter what team you root for, you’ve got to see that this is an obvious hit piece. What’s the value in pushing this? Come on, Florio, you should know better than to publish this, much less call it “excellent.”

  62. I read the complete article in Bleacher Report’s. It is surprisingly well written and a balanced account of the problems and the relationships. however neither of them is painted in a particularly flattering light. We are all flawed to one degree or another, and in this case, their particular flaws worked against each other to the point where damage was done to each other and too the team. The article calls the Packers something like the dynasty that never was. If you pick a little snippets out of the article, you can paint the picture one color or the other. But in reality neither McCarthy nor Rogers holds all the blame or note of it. Too bad. But that’s life.

  63. So Rodgers has a chip.
    Tom Brady has a chip.
    Mike Florio has a chip.
    I have a chip since third grade.
    The only interesting (and salacious) tidbit here is the football IQ thing.
    From an anonymous source.
    Nothing wrong with that.
    I assume Tyler Dunne applies journalistic best practices and confirmed that tip with two other sources.
    Unless he didn’t.

  64. Well clearly Rodgers used that chip to motivate himself to becoming a better player. In a warped way, the character Ricky Jerrett’s father from “Ballers” might have been a little bit correct when he told Ricky that he was at least partially responsible for Ricky’s success, because all the anger and motivation he channeled into being angry at his Dad’s lack of presence helped him become the player he was.

  65. I miss Brett more and more every day. Good luck Aaron, I want you to succeed, but I think you over estimate your advantages a little bit. A little bit more and more every day.

  66. Rodgers seems to have incredibly low self confidence/self worth, both of which are common in people who are conflict adverse. He calls out McCarthys IQ because you’d obviously have to be an ignorant football illiterate to pass on the great Aaron Rodgers, which is another sign of Rodgers not being 100% comfortable in his own skin. And the truth at the time is that Alex Smith WAS A BETTER QB than 2005 Rodgers, Kurt Warner admits he shouldn’t of been drafted in 1994 because he is a realist but obviously Rodgers cannot do this because he is delusional. The more and more that comes out about Aaron Rodgers the more i’m convinced the reason Green Bay has not won more rings is because this guy is a selfish head case, good luck with that Green Bay!!! It says a lot about the guy he doesnt talk to his own freaking parents, who were there for him his entire life and raised the him. Didn;t even call his mom when she was deathly sick. Again because he’s a introverted, self-centered, self-centered, selfish egotistical head case who thinks the world revolves all around him. I don’t care how talented he is i’m glad he is not on my favorite team.

  67. aarons444 says:

    April 4, 2019 at 3:21 pm

    Aside from Brady’s skills, his strength of character also make him a rarity.
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    Agreed.

    We’ve never seen such an unethical champion.

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    Rodgers is one of the most talented and pettiest QBs of all time.

    Imagine if Brady was so petty with Belichick letting him slide to the 199th pick…. Some guys just know how to get through the bs and win. Rodgers is not one of those guys.

  68. Imagine if Brady was so petty with Belichick letting him slide to the 199th pick…. Some guys just know how to get through the bs and win. Rodgers is not one of those guys.
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    He’s the highest rated QB of all time.

    He hasn’t won because he had too much of McCarthys bs to overcome.

    McCarthy is the anti-Belichick. He never met a big game he couldn’t find a way to lose.

  69. Good Lord. if Rodger’s skin were any thinner, we’d see his internal organs.

    And I’m not defending McCarthy – I think he’s a mediocre coach – but he wasn’t the only one that thought Smith was better than Rodgers coming out of college. Imagine – that – coachjes and suits on draft day getting it wrong! Hardly ever happens, right?

  70. Tension must be good because the Packer have been consistently one of the leagues best over the years. The downfall is some poor drafts three, four and five years ago. Overall the record over the last 27 years has been good.

  71. Win a game, and credit goes to Rodgers. Lose, and the blame falls on McCarthy, Bostick, and everyone else. Had Rodgers scored enough points, the team wouldn’t have had to rely on the likes of Bostick to not mess up. Rodgers needs to realize that win or lose, it is a team sport and quit glory grabbing.

  72. It’s difficult to imagine this went on at that level for so many years but only they really know. Even if it did, they sure had a lot of good years together, especially against the Lions.

  73. Fans get what they deserve with these kind of made up stories. James Jones said he doesn’t remember any of that stuff going on.

  74. aarons444 says:
    April 4, 2019 at 5:50 pm
    Imagine if Brady was so petty with Belichick letting him slide to the 199th pick…. Some guys just know how to get through the bs and win. Rodgers is not one of those guys.
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    He’s the highest rated QB of all time.

    He hasn’t won because he had too much of McCarthys bs to overcome.

    McCarthy is the anti-Belichick. He never met a big game he couldn’t find a way to lose.
    —-
    Do you really think Max Contract Rodgers would have lasted with Belichick? Rodgers gripes about contracts every 3 years. He got paid 80M in the last 8 months!

    I believe that Bellichick deserves most of the credit for the Pats success, but Brady deserves a lot of credit for not getting a big head, over-ruling the coaches play calling, forcing huge contract extensions… etc. Really, just surviving 20 years with Belichick is what makes Tom Brady great.

  75. RedBlooded says:
    April 4, 2019 at 6:02 pm
    Mccarthy is the reason why the 49ers didn’t draft Rodgers. The irony of that.

    Odd. I never saw McCarthy out on the field once when Aaron was failing to bring his team back for a win……

  76. For all you Aaron Rodgers haters who bash him unmercifully, do me a favor. Go ask Brett Favre what he thinks of Ted Thompson, Mark Murphy, and Mike McCarthy.
    If it weren’t for Favre and Rodgers, those guys would be handing out hamburgers at a fast food joint.

  77. It’s funny how Packers players who have defended Rodgers and slammed Mike McCarthy don’t get quoted by Tyler Dunne. David Bakhtiari, their All Pro left tackle, said complacency had set in on the team among coaches and players. He said one players was continually allowed to be late for meetings and even airplanes when they were going on the road. It WAS NOT Aaron Rodgers, by the way!
    Jordy Nelson always had great things to say about Rodgers and so did Randall Cobb, who was not re-signed by the Packers and is now a Cowboys WR.
    Instead, we get quotes from Greg Jennings, who has been mad at the Packers ever since they let him go, or we hear from unnamed players.
    I have been a Packers fan since 1960. The Packers players who played for Lombardi often hated him. But they also knew he was a great coach who taught them about life while leading them to 5 championships. Mike McCarthy couldn’t carry Lombardi’s water bottle. He is a very mediocre coach who happened to have two great QB’s who made him look way better than he ever was.
    Ask yourselves this, folks. Why is McCarthy sitting home whining to a Sports Illustrated writer instead of coaching a football team? Answer? Because no one wanted him! He wanted the Jets job very badly, but he didn’t get it. Instead, they gave it to a guy who’s never been a head coach before! That says volumes to me about McCarthy.

  78. aarons444 says:
    April 4, 2019 at 5:50 pm
    Imagine if Brady was so petty with Belichick letting him slide to the 199th pick…. Some guys just know how to get through the bs and win. Rodgers is not one of those guys.
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    He’s the highest rated QB of all time.

    He hasn’t won because he had too much of McCarthys bs to overcome.

    McCarthy is the anti-Belichick. He never met a big game he couldn’t find a way to lose.

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    Sure but Rodgers sounds like he could work on his leadership skills.

    And Belichick is only 18-19 as Pats coach without Brady starting, so I think TB had something to do with it.

  79. Too bad that the Packers are not eligible for Hard Knocks. That would be very interesting.

  80. I think the turning point for Aaron Rodgers was after that loss to the Seahawks in the NFCC game in the 2014 season. At that point, Rodgers acknowledged McCarthy’s scheme was stale, conservative, and playing not to lose. From that point on going forward, he was going to shut off McCarthy and no longer listened his coach and went on a full improv style that lead to spotty success and developing sone bad habits along the way. And he really hasn’t recovered from that. Whether the new coaching hire will make a new turning point for the better remains to be seen.

  81. “Nobody holds a grudge in any sport like Rodgers,” Dunne writes. “When it comes to Rodgers, grudges do not merrily float away. They stick. They grow. They refuel.”
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    Typically, people capable of holding grudges over small things are either not very smart or have not developed emotionally like normal people. The passive aggressiveness here is likely part of Rodgers problem. He is talented but he is not really a leader and that is a necessary trait in a QB. I’m not defending McCarthy here. I’m just saying it doesn’t seem like Rodgers has ever looked in a mirror and detected any blame.

  82. It’s Super Bowl or Bust time. 10 draft picks this year, 2 in the first round, new coaching staff and GM, future Hall of Fame quarterback. There is no reason why they shouldn’t go to the Super Bowl this year.

  83. And Belichick is only 18-19 as Pats coach without Brady starting, so I think TB had something to do with it.
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    McCarthy is 6-11-1 in games not started by a HOF QB.

    .. and as I recall, he has lost all but 1 game Rodgers and Favre were knocked out of as well, which would put the number at 7-16-1.

    … as I said, the anti-Belichick.

  84. Mike McCarthy couldn’t carry Lombardi’s water bottle.
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    Lets leave the GOAT out of this.

    McCarthy can’t even carry Holmgrens water bottle.

  85. Do you really think Max Contract Rodgers would have lasted with Belichick? Rodgers gripes about contracts every 3 years. He got paid 80M in the last 8 months!

    I believe that Bellichick deserves most of the credit for the Pats success, but Brady deserves a lot of credit for not getting a big head, over-ruling the coaches play calling, forcing huge contract extensions… etc.
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    Aaron Rodgers 2018 cap number – $20,900,000
    Tom Brady 2018 cap number – $22,000,000

    Aaron Rodgers 2019 cap number – $26,5000,000
    Tom Brady 2019 cap number – $27,000,000

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