Report: Mike McCarthy routinely skipped team meetings for massages

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If you believe that there are no coincidences in life, then you’ll be convinced it was no coincidence that a mostly-positive interview of Packers coach Mike McCarthy debuted at ESPN one day before Bleacher Report published a comprehensive analysis of the perennial dysfunction the Packers experienced under McCarthy and quarterback Aaron Rodgers.

The remarkable story from Tyler Dunne, who previously covered the Packers, deserves a full read. It also will result in at least three different posts here, because we’ve learned that the modern human attention span isn’t conducive to, well, something or other.

Here’s the first chunk of the article that caused me to mutter an expletive. In reference to the perception that McCarthy began to check out late in his tenure with the Packers, Dunne wrote this: “About once a week, a meeting would start up and McCarthy was MIA. Players weren’t quite sure where he was while, for example, an assistant coach would run the team’s final prep on the Saturday before a game. Eventually, word leaked that McCarthy, the one calling plays on game day, was up in his office getting a massage during those meetings.”

Dunne reports that McCarthy’s massage therapist told a player that McCarthy would “sneak her up a back stairway” so that no one would realize that, while the team was working, the coach was not.

“If you’re not a part of meetings, and then you’re trying to be pissed about execution, nobody’s going to really respect you,” an unnamed former Packers front-office member told Dunne. “They’re going to look at you like, ‘Where have you been all week?’ It sounded like he was really just chilling.”

Later in the article, Dunne points out that an unnamed Packers player who had heard about McCarthy’s massage habit wondered whether “Rodgers started that rumor and tried spreading it to anybody that’d listen.” That speaks to the toxic nature of the relationship between coach and quarterback, something that reportedly lasted for a very long time.

And that will be the topic of our next entry regarding Dunne’s story.

145 responses to “Report: Mike McCarthy routinely skipped team meetings for massages

  1. I have no problem with this. How many coordinators and assistant coaches are on an NFL staff, something like 15. A leader knows how to delegate authority, put someone in charge and go off for a massage. Nothing wrong what that.

  2. That seems hard to believe
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    Tyler was one of the beat writers from the Milwaukee paper.

    This isn’t some national hack making stuff up.

  3. Sounds bad but if it were really goin goin you’e expect it would be all around the league — players talk and move from team to team. It’s too juicy to remain under wraps, if there were anything to it.

  4. Gee, a checked out coach and a QB with a laissez-faire attitude. No wonder there’s been so much under achieving in Green Bay. I’m no fan of Favre, but that NEVER would have happened when he was there… Dysfunction Bay…

  5. The Packers have become such a dysfunctional franchise. Back to the Packers we all knew from the 70’s and 80’s.

  6. an unnamed Packers player who had heard about McCarthy’s massage habit wondered whether “Rodgers started that rumor and tried spreading it to anybody that’d listen.”
    ______
    What a disaster the Packer organization has become. The whole thing is a complete mess and changing a coach won’t be able to fix it.

  7. Fairly skeptical on this one. Coaches work very very long days and weeks. 80+ hours minimum, and lots of stories of guys sleeping at their offices. It would be difficult for me to believe that on a regular basis, a coach was sneaking someone in to get a massage *during* meetings, vs just scheduling one to come in at any other point in the day when the players are not needing the coach to be interacting with them. Possible sure. Probable – doubtful imo. Could it have happened 1-2 times for some special issue going on, i guess. Just smells like BS to me personally.

  8. I’m no fan of Favre, but that NEVER would have happened when he was there… Dysfunction Bay…
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    Sorry, did you somehow miss the Favre/Packer divorce?

    That was as ugly as it gets.

  9. So unfair to give McCarthy a hard time for preferring massages to team meetings.

    Can’t I guy just have a little ME time once in a while without getting judged?

    Coaching is stressful you, know…

  10. cheeseisfattening says:
    April 4, 2019 at 12:36 pm
    an unnamed Packers player who had heard about McCarthy’s massage habit wondered whether “Rodgers started that rumor and tried spreading it to anybody that’d listen.”
    ______
    What a disaster the Packer organization has become. The whole thing is a complete mess and changing a coach won’t be able to fix it.

    \\\\

    You hope…..

  11. McCarthy has been on the way down for some time now. The Packers just let him linger a while before giving him the boot.

  12. “I have no problem with this. How many coordinators and assistant coaches are on an NFL staff, something like 15. A leader knows how to delegate authority, put someone in charge and go off for a massage. Nothing wrong what that.”
    ________________

    Nothing wrong with that IF you are honest about it and let people know that is what is going on. But sneaking people around so nobody catches on is a quick way to DESTROY players’ trust. And it wasn’t even like this was a Tuesday–this was Saturday’s final prep before the game the next day. He clearly knew it would cause problems if players found out, thus the sneaking around.

  13. Just remember, my fellow Packers fans, things can always get worse.

  14. So unfair to give McCarthy a hard time for preferring massages to team meetings.
    Can’t I guy just have a little ME time once in a while without getting judged?
    Coaching is stressful you, know…
    ====

    And, C’mon.. the guy was “highly successful”….

  15. SaintsGotRobbed
    Packers have lost their grip on the North. It’s the Bear’s division now…

    LOL. Says the Bears fan….

    How about “they lost their grip on the North.” Period.

    The Vikings won it going away last year.
    The Bears took it this year.
    Likely Vikes or Bears again this year.

    But pretty premature to proclaim a Bears stranglehold on the Division.

    Pretty funny…

  16. aarons444 says:
    April 4, 2019 at 12:38 pm
    I’m no fan of Favre, but that NEVER would have happened when he was there… Dysfunction Bay…
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    Sorry, did you somehow miss the Favre/Packer divorce?

    That was as ugly as it gets.
    ———————
    I meant the team being checked out, lack of effort, and having lost all competitive fire…

  17. Short version. The Packers aren’t winning anything else with Rodgers at QB because he’s basically crazy.
    ======

    Its Rodgers fault the Packers lost their edge and slipped to the middle of the pack?

  18. You Packers fans may want to hold on to your pitchforks on MM. TT and AR do not come off well in the full story. You guys should try reading it, it is linked in the story above.

    I am going to go out on a limb and say TT and MM are going to be painted by you fans as the bad guys, while AR is absolved of all blame.

    PS: It is great article and quite fair to all involved, not any one person is accused of being the complete problem, it was a group effort- still AR will be absolved of any wrong doing because of…….hero worship….pathetic, but predictable from the packer mensa members on here.

  19. Interesting. A quote came from a former Packer front-office member. And the Browns have three former Packer front-office member (Dorsey, Highsmith, and Wolfe), and they didn’t give him an interview for the Brown’s HC job after MM got fired …

  20. “……Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? I tell you, I gotta plead ignorance on this thing, because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing is frowned upon…”

  21. Nobody in Minnesota is surprised that it’s been a clown show in Green Bay for years….

  22. Liberalsruineverything says:
    April 4, 2019 at 12:35 pm
    That’s why a real owner is needed instead of a beaurocracy. No accountability top to bottom.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I know, right? Just think how different everything could have been. Let’s compare to, oh, I don’t know… how about the Vikings? If the Packers had been run by the same people, and in the same manner as the Vikings, instead of winning ONLY 13 World Championships, the Packers could have been like the Vikings and won… nothing. Absolutely nothing.

    Instead of having what is universally recognized as the most iconic venue in football history, visited by fans from around the globe, paid for mostly by fan donations in the way of souvenir stock sales, we could have been like the Vikings and run through a succession of collapsing domes and disposable McStadiums, paid for by strong-arming the taxpayers, many of whom absolutely did not want to pay for any of it and hate every bit of it.

    Instead of being secure in the knowledge that our team can never be moved, we could be like you and saddled with the knowledge that 20 years from now, if that long, you’ll be strong-armed again… for even MORE billions.

    Yeah, what could have been. I guess we’ll just have to make the best of it.

  23. Sounds a little far fetched but amusing if it actually did happened. You know what though? If the Packers were winning regularly and this did actually happened everyone would be talking about the relaxing culture that puts players and coaches at ease and helps their performance on game day. Really you can spin almost anything when you’re winning. When you’re losing not so much.

  24. billtetley53 says:
    April 4, 2019 at 1:00 pm

    -still AR will be absolved of any wrong doing because of…….hero worship….pathetic, but predictable from the packer mensa members on here.

    ————————-

    Yeah, Packer fans are pathetic because they give Aaron Rodgers a pass when the Barneys perceive him as arrogant.

    Yet, welcoming back and cheering for a known child abuser is ok in your book? Got it.

  25. jbvikes says:
    April 4, 2019 at 1:01 pm
    Love the way the Packer fans are trying to spin this.

    \\\\

    Yeah, no spin from you guys on this at all….

  26. GB’s version of Tom Curran, Grant Cohn, Wickersham, Giardi. You guys never give it a rest. Your fellow haters now think BB is tanking. Bringing back what The Herd said two SBs ago.

  27. Alan Light says:
    April 4, 2019 at 1:09 pm
    Nobody in Minnesota is surprised that it’s been a clown show in Green Bay for years….

    \\\\\

    People in glass stadiums……

  28. Why is this so fascinating to the myopic masses? He needed to be fired, and he was. Is it more than that? I don’t see it.

  29. MM = resting on his laurels
    TT = filling his depends while sleeping
    AR = petulant child

    Where was Murphy during all of this? How could he not know of all this dysfunction?

    If even a little of what was said against Rodgers is true, you fans should be livid.

    Torpedoing the team because you don’t like the HC, not throwing to guys for listening to the HC?

    LaFluer is walking into a big top circus this year, he better have some sense of authority or this could go off the rails real easily.

  30. Just very poorly run and has been for a very long time. Luckily for NFC North teams, Packer fans keep telling the world just how wonderful they’re doing.

    Train wreck

  31. andrwken says:

    April 4, 2019 at 1:14 pm

    jbvikes says:
    April 4, 2019 at 1:01 pm
    Love the way the Packer fans are trying to spin this.

    \\\\

    Yeah, no spin from you guys on this at all
    =======================================
    Read the whole story Barbie. None of them come off real well- you should be angry after that story linked in this one.

  32. Comments from all over are disconnected from reality. Viking fans, on the other hand, are finding fault with Rodgers, after hero-worshiping a child-beater that bilked and maneuvered the Vikings out of untold millions? I’ll take the McCarthy/Rodgers “melodrama” anytime.

  33. Let me see if I’ve got this straight, there’s an uncorroborated report, from an unnamed source, mind you, that Mike McCarthy was doing something totally legal and possibly therapeutic in his own office.

    And a former player wondered aloud whether a star player may, or may not have, had a hand in leaking this “bombshell”. Got it!

  34. May have happened once or twice, but remember they only play half of their games at home. Is Dunne saying McCarthy did this on the road also? And also, was it actually during a practice when of course he should have been there (no excusing him for that), or was he just sneaking her up during “off” times because he didn’t want the players to think he was a softy?
    It was time to go, but let’s not exaggerate.

  35. It’s a hell of a piece. Dunne is credible because he was around the team quite a lot in recent years. Rodgers needs to take a long look at his life and decide if he wants to be remembered as a guy who did what it took to make everyone around him great, or if he just wants to be another highly talented jerk. He gets another chance now, but the hour is late.

  36. Wafflestomp says:

    April 4, 2019 at 1:13 pm

    billtetley53 says:
    April 4, 2019 at 1:00 pm

    -still AR will be absolved of any wrong doing because of…….hero worship….pathetic, but predictable from the packer mensa members on here.

    ————————-

    Yeah, Packer fans are pathetic because they give Aaron Rodgers a pass when the Barneys perceive him as arrogant.

    Yet, welcoming back and cheering for a known child abuser is ok in your book? Got it.
    ==============================================================
    Putting Chumura in the GBP HOF is ok by you? >>>>>>BUT Rodgers is way more than arrogant. How any of you packers fans read that and are not angry is beyond me. Of course clicking on a link is probably too tough for any of you…….

  37. So from the Bleacher Report article is says Rodgers grudge with McCarthy started from McCarthy passing on him in the draft as the 49ers OC? I’m pretty sure offensive coordinator’s don’t run the draft for their teams.

  38. I probably shouldn’t believe this but McCarthy always seemed like a Prima Donna.

    Love the arrogance of Bear fans. One good year, and think they rule the division. Buster Skine…isn’t good. Your team got worse expect to fall back to earth this year.

  39. Love that Packer fans see nothing wrong and dismiss the article out of hand…means the problems will continue and the Packers next bout of decades on incompetence will continue.

  40. Hmm while I’m not a packers fan or a defender of anyone here, I’ll just say there are two sides to every story. I have a hard time believing McCarthy would have been kept around as long as he was if he was routinely missing meetings and as absent and incompetent as this all makes him out to be. That simply doesn’t add up. Rodgers being a good QB might cover up a lot of blemishes but the Packer’s underacheivements have been well documented for quite a while now. I can’t believe it would take that long for him to get canned if he was that terrible of a coach.

  41. It appears to me that Robert Kraft isn’t the only one who likes massage parlor happy endings!

  42. Does it matter? He might have had back problems for awhile. The Packers have moved on and I still wish Mike the best.

  43. Alan Light says:
    April 4, 2019 at 1:26 pm
    Love that Packer fans see nothing wrong and dismiss the article out of hand…means the problems will continue and the Packers next bout of decades on incompetence will continue.
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Wishful thinking, as usual, every year for three decades. Can you use your predictive expertise to tell us if the Vikings (finally) win a SuperBowl this year? Is this the year? Focus your energy on the downward trending Vikings, Nostradamus. They need a lot more help than the rejuvenated Packers.

  44. That’s why a real owner is needed instead of a beaurocracy. No accountability top to bottom.
    ______________________________

    Like Jerry Jones who threw away a dynasty with Jimmie Johnson
    Like Jim Irsay who is a splitting imagine of what his father did to Baltimore?
    OR My owner going to a massage parlor instead of just having the girl come to his mansion?!

  45. billtetley53 says:
    April 4, 2019 at 1:18 pm
    andrwken says:

    April 4, 2019 at 1:14 pm

    jbvikes says:
    April 4, 2019 at 1:01 pm
    Love the way the Packer fans are trying to spin this.

    \\\\

    Yeah, no spin from you guys on this at all
    =======================================
    Read the whole story Barbie. None of them come off real well- you should be angry after that story linked in this one.

    \\\\

    A whole story, substantiated by unnamed sources, topping it off by an unnamed player saying he wouldn’t be surprised if Rodgers started the rumor. About the only thing to be substantiated is if Mccarthy actually missed the meetings. If so, then who cares what for. How was he being to get the results he was getting? The fact that the man was fired mid season, and was unable to get a look for other head coaching jobs, may just speak volumes about how poorly he did things at the end and why he’s unemployed yet.

    Your an easy sell for rumors and gossip. You must buy anything they throw at you on late night TV.

  46. billtetley53 says:
    April 4, 2019 at 1:18 pm
    Read the whole story Barbie. None of them come off real well- you should be angry after that story linked in this one.
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Angry about what, exactly? The machinations that go on behind the scenes of every sizeable Fortune 500-caliber corporation in the entire country. The haters would get this if they ever took the earbuds off and stepped away from the fryer.

  47. Hey Wafflestomp, try reading the entire article before defending your beloved Erin. Multiple sources point out he was key in fracturing the team with his diva attitude and passive aggressive ways. Don’t use strawman arguments about other teams. We’re talking about the Packers…and frankly, McCarthy had his issues, but being undermined by Rodgers was THE key issue there.

  48. Adds a personnel man who worked for the Packers at the time: “He’s not going to respect you if he thinks he’s smarter than you.”
    _______
    That’s too bad for Lafleur

  49. None of this has any effect on the Packers going forward, people just love talking about the NFL and this is an easy “hot” topic because of his recent interview, since the big FA is over, and the draft isn’t until the end of the month, that’s a big reason, why there are about 10 articles on someone that doesn’t have a job in the league right now.

  50. I remember when a certain someone got up on his soapbox and vowed to stop trolling. I must have read it wrong, though. What he must have vowed was to stop trolling with even a hint of credibility. In this thread alone, he’s dropped below Cheesie/GTO/Liberals/FL level and he’s headed straight into Ariani/Cody/Dahmer territory. He must be very proud.

  51. Read it all. You must. Packer fans have been in denial for years. This is the truth. In black and white. Now the healing can begin. Or can it, since Rodgers is still there…

  52. Wow! What could have been if the relationship were better between coach and QB, allegedly. I’m sure when the Belichick-Brady era ends, we’ll hear stories as well. But Nine Super Bowl appearances and 6 wins makes a lot of stuff just go away. Go Patriots!

  53. still AR will be absolved of any wrong doing because of…….hero worship….pathetic, but predictable from the packer mensa members on here.
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    The above is from my first post- can I call it or what?

    Honestly, I would have been more let down if you didn’t react this way.

    You packers fans are as sure as death and taxes.

    It’s obvious that Redundant performance and Barbie and Ken didn’t read the full article or did not have someone there to explain the context of what they were reading.

    Just for your edification, in writing, when someone doesn’t want to be named, the author cannot use that name. It could be a current player, coach , executive that doesn’t want to lose their job. Just because they are not named doesn’t make it untrue.

    Changing plays, ignoring plays, not throwing to guys that listen to the HC, audibling out of running plays??

    You are ok with all that? Wow.

    OH LOOK, Redundant also made a fast food joke…..I need to get a pen and write that one down so I don’t forget it…..BRILLIANT!!

  54. cheeseisfattening says:
    April 4, 2019 at 1:47 pm
    LOLOL! Told ya so
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Told us what, that Thompson should relinquish control, or that McCarthy was tired and predictable and needed to be fired? He did and he was.

    You’re a genius.

  55. If you’re a Packer fan and commenting before you read the entire story, you should stop. You look foolish. Your best move here is to read the entire story, and then remain silent and hope your team finishes above .500 this year.

  56. But even one defensive starter who begins a conversation by praising McCarthy soon admits the culture he instilled created a soft team.
    —”-
    Been saying it for years. And it has not changed

  57. When Rodgers missed seven games in 2013 and nine games in 2017, the player remembers teammates outright quitting.
    ___
    There is so much quit in Green Bay. We see it even today with the Packers having to pay just to get players to show up

  58. I really don’t get it. Why bring up stuff that’s old news? McCarthy was there for 13 years; probably 3 to long. His message got stale, his offensive scheme was from 15 years ago and couldn’t adapt and TT failed his last couple of years. It was time to go … he went … a new GM and head coach was hired. Life goes on. Just let it go!!

  59. …and frankly, McCarthy had his issues, but being undermined by Rodgers was THE key issue there.
    =====

    Getting his behind kicked in January was his biggest issue.

  60. Currently, the division belongs to the Bears, and rightfully so. And yet, the purples are still obsessing over the Packers and Packer fans.

    They no longer have any excuse. They are truly, deeply and undeniably obsessed.

    And they still can’t make us love them.

  61. Alan Light says:
    April 4, 2019 at 1:26 pm
    Love that Packer fans see nothing wrong and dismiss the article out of hand…means the problems will continue and the Packers next bout of decades on incompetence will continue.

    I don’t dismiss it at all. Dunne is credible; he was a beat reporter for the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel and spent a lot of time in and around Green Bay. Some of what he writes doesn’t make sense; at one point the article talks about the 2011 team and how they should have been the ’72 Dolphins, for example. That’s wrong — that team had two severe flaws — no bell cow running back, and a big hole in the defense from the unfortunate injury that ended Nick Collins’s career. I also think he relies a bit too much on Greg Jennings, who is an unreliable narrator at best. Still, it’s a well-reported article and a lot of it does ring true. The question for the Packers, and Packers fans, is where do we go from here? Aaron Rodgers is an incredibly talented and flawed man. He’s the center of it; how he decides to proceed will determine whether it’s possible to have a rebirth.

    Packers fans have been incredibly spoiled for two reasons — we’ve had the services of back-to-back HOF quarterbacks, and we’ve had divisional opponents who had their own variations of dysfunction going throughout the last quarter century. The Lions have been dumb for 60 years. The Bears have penurious ownership and haven’t had a quarterback in 70 years. The Vikings always have talent, but rarely have cohesiveness and have been throwing darts at the quarterback position for 40 years; it’s no coincidence that they haven’t been to a Super Bowl since Fran Tarkenton retired. It’s been a great setup for the Green and Gold, but the Packers and their fans cannot assume their good fortune is a divine right.

  62. “The remarkable story from Tyler Dunne, who previously covered the Packers, deserves a full read. It also will result in at least three different posts here, because we’ve learned that the modern human attention span isn’t conducive to, well, something or other.”

    Refers the reader to a longform story that’s over 30 pages printed. Then comments on how the modern attention span isn’t long enough to read a 5-paragraph article.

  63. So let get this straight, since 2006, the combination of Thompson, McCarthy and Fave/Rodgers has been so dysfunctional and inept, they’ve only notched 8 double digit win seasons, 9 playoff appearances, including 8 in a row, went to the NFC Conference Championship 4 times, while winning 1 NFL Title.
    By the way, with Mike McCarthy coaching the Packers to 8 postseason appearances in a row, he became only the 4th coach to accomplish this feat, joining Chuck Noll, Tom Landry and Bill Bellichick.
    All of which, had Hall of Fame QBs at their disposal.
    Wow! How terrible.

    Yet with all of that dysfunction and chaos brewing in Titletown over the last 13 years, what does that honestly say about just how poor the rest of the NFC North must’ve been?
    Sad.

  64. If Rodgers has a problem, he rarely chooses to address it directly.

    Its who Rodgers is. No backbone, just a passive aggressive bad teammate, as his former teammates have attested. Certainly not a penultimate professional. LOLOL

  65. One person, who used to be close to the quarterback but has since been cut out of his life, describes Rodgers as forever “conflict-averse.”
    ——
    Rodgers’ mom?

  66. He is self-entitled.
    He’ll throw you in the doghouse.
    Rodgers can do no wrong. “He doesn’t make a mistake. It’s always the receiver’s fault.”
    He is overly sensitive.
    He is petty

    yup, yup, yup, yup, yup.
    It must be so difficult to be around such a sad human being.

  67. billtetley53 says:
    April 4, 2019 at 1:21 pm

    Putting Chumura in the GBP HOF is ok by you? >>>>>>BUT Rodgers is way more than arrogant. How any of you packers fans read that and are not angry is beyond me. Of course clicking on a link is probably too tough for any of you…….
    ____________

    I have no problem putting Mark Chmura in the Packers Hall of Fame.
    He was a very good player here, a Super Bowl Champion, as well as his many charitable contributions he was involved in Green Bay.

    Now, I realize you’re insinuating that his character is poor because of the rape allegations he had to endure.
    But, if you actually took the time to read and review the facts of the case, with an unbiased eye, of course, you would probably come to the same conclusion a jury did in regards to those charges.

    In fact, it was proven, without a doubt, that almost everything the accuser said wasn’t remotely accurate.
    That would include witnesses, all DNA/physical and medical evidence.
    But, then again, why would any simpleminded Barney ever listen to reason.
    You all just regurgitate the same old garbage over and over again.
    Why don’t you just claim Packer fans killed Dan Devine’s dogs again?
    That lie never gets old either. (Eye Roll)

    And yes, I will take all of these unsubstantiated claims, unnamed sources and all the mights and maybes with a grain of salt.
    Especially compared to all of the former teammates that have come forward, who aren’t afraid to put their names to the glowing accolades, anecdotes and compliments they’ve given to Aaron Rodgers over the years.

  68. The chip on Rodgers’ shoulder was always more of a boulder, from the zero Division I offers to McCarthy’s 49ers choosing Smith over him to his own fans booing him during “Family Night” when Brett Favre tried to return.
    ——
    That says a lot all around

  69. After reading the entire article, the usual Green Bay fanbois need to stop chirping about what a dumpster fire the Viking organization and team is. You no longer have any shred of credibility.

  70. ‘This is the GM?'” Thompson was dealing with obvious physical issues, and Mark Murphy, the team president since 2007, didn’t step in.
    —–
    And……Mark Murphy is still in charge!!!! Weeeeee!

  71. One source with close ties to the team estimates Rodgers changed about a third of the plays McCarthy called. “An alarming amount. That is embarrassing. And they don’t work!'”
    —-
    Now that’s funny!

  72. Vikings fans knows and embraces the dysfunction and futility of their franchise.
    So the “Yeah, what about….” comments have no affect on us.
    But we do know that these dents in your perfect Packer memories drive you Packer fans crazy. And it’s so very delicious!!!! HAHAHAHA

    And BTW….stop with the 13 world championships. You’re embarrassing yourselves. Stick with the Super Bowls in the modern era. And yes you have 4. But settle down on the rest.

  73. cheeseisfattening says:
    April 4, 2019 at 2:54 pm
    That says a lot all around
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Says what?????? That Rodgers likes to win? Oh no……please…….anything but that! Are you trying to maintain that the world should only be made up of pleasant people? In that case, why in the world would you be here?

  74. A source close to the team says St. Brown became frustrated because, as much as he wanted to follow McCarthy’s play design, he also heard rumors of Rodgers freezing out teammates if they didn’t do exactly what he demanded. So he listened to Rodgers. On one play in New England, Rodgers told St. Brown to run a post route when the play called for a flag. St. Brown ran the post, and pressure forced Rodgers to throw the ball away toward the flag—leading his position coach to grill him on what he was thinking.

    St. Brown told him he was “improvising” so he didn’t upset Rodgers.

    Knowing what was up, McCarthy told him to stick with the routes called.
    —-
    Wow that is so bad. And Rodgers is still there

  75. Lot of underpants going to need changing in MN after this. The trolls are positively beside themselves.

  76. In one red-zone drill in practice, St. Brown didn’t pick up on a signal, and Rodgers lost it. No, he wasn’t exactly giving these rookies a chance to grow, either. A source close to one of the team’s skill-position starters says Rodgers was the one “sinking the ship” with zero interest in developing Valdes-Scantling, St. Brown or Moore.
    ———–
    And this is even worse, undermining the team.

  77. glac1 says:
    April 4, 2019 at 1:01 pm
    This still makes him a Saint compared to Robert Kraft.

    ———————-

    Exactly how does it make him a saint compared to Robert Kraft, an old man hurting no one by paying for a little sexual gratification?

    Please, exactly how is Robert Kraft different from any other NORMAL American man in that regard?

  78. viking fans (or at least that one viking fan with all those multiple screen names) are out in force today! It’s like Christmas for them!!! They never have any on-field success to celebrate, so they literally go nuts when something comes out that puts the Packers in a bad light. LOL at viking fans!!!

  79. Exactly how does it make him a saint compared to Robert Kraft, an old man hurting no one by paying for a little sexual gratification?
    ======

    Two words for you bud;

    Human.trafficking..

  80. All the packer fans who are in love with Rodgers, this is killing them. You can see it in their responses. You will see it in their responses to me. The man is selfish and could care less about green bay and their fans.

  81. Take it easy, Packer fans. Enjoy this commentary thread for what it is (and it really is deliciously enjoyable when you sit back and see it for what it really is). Absolute, undeniable proof that these guys are completely obsessed with us and the team we root for. We hold the key to their happiness, or the lack thereof, and we didn’t even have to fight for it… they freely and willingly submitted.

    Q: How many times over the years has one of us gotten on them about their obsession?
    A: Too many times to count.

    Q: And how many times has their reply been something like “Only because the Packers are at the top of the division. As soon as their reign is over, we won’t care anything about them… or you.”
    A: Pretty much every time.

    Well, now their untruth is unmasked. They have no excuse. The Packers haven’t made the playoffs for the past two years and as much as we all want the Pack to get back on top sooner rather than later, the Bears currently hold the keys to the kingdom. The Bears also appear well-positioned for the long haul. And yet, the mere mention of the Packers, former Packers, Packer fans, and/or anything even remotely related to the Packers, winning or not winning, still sets them off in a frenzy. The purples absolutely cannot deny it any longer. They are truly and deeply obsessed.

    But they still can’t make us love them.

  82. Mcarthy is one dimensional and does things his way, RUN RUN PASS. He did it in San fran and lost the Super Bowl, was terrible in Buffalo and should of never been hired in Green Bay, Rodgers is that team and always will be, Mcarthy did nothing with the defense or offense, this is a surprise to WHO!! Show me any stats that are direct reflection of him, there are NONE. He was one of the worst coaches to ever win a Superbowl.

  83. It’s just to easy to use this article as a basis for trolling as the linked report already does that. If this had been a report on internal Viking organization dysfunction, the same cheesers who are sanctimoniously chiming in above, some of whom have commented multiple times, would have burned up their keyboards roasting the Vikings and their fans.

    The point cheesers should lament is what could have been with their HOF QB, rather than gloating on division titles and one Super Bowl.

    The Packers have largely addressed the problems referenced in the article, with the exception of apparently Rodgers’ attitude and, more importantly, the slow moving bureaucratic structure that failed to recognize and act on the problem in the first place. But hey guys, if it makes you feel better pointing out that the Vikings have no Super Bowl wins, knock yourselves out.

  84. billtetley53 says:
    April 4, 2019 at 1:57 pm
    still AR will be absolved of any wrong doing because of…….hero worship….pathetic, but predictable from the packer mensa members on here.
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    The above is from my first post- can I call it or what?

    Honestly, I would have been more let down if you didn’t react this way.

    You packers fans are as sure as death and taxes.

    It’s obvious that Redundant performance and Barbie and Ken didn’t read the full article or did not have someone there to explain the context of what they were reading.

    Just for your edification, in writing, when someone doesn’t want to be named, the author cannot use that name. It could be a current player, coach , executive that doesn’t want to lose their job. Just because they are not named doesn’t make it untrue.

    Changing plays, ignoring plays, not throwing to guys that listen to the HC, audibling out of running plays??

    You are ok with all that? Wow.

    OH LOOK, Redundant also made a fast food joke…..I need to get a pen and write that one down so I don’t forget it…..BRILLIANT!!

    \\\\

    The only thing you’ve proven is that like death and taxes, you will be completely enthralled by a packer story due to your own fixation. Your here, and you can’t help it.

    It’s a story and people like you make these stories overly newsworthy. Yes I have read it. It’s an ok read but you can also shoot a lot of holes in it too.

    Josh Sitton not speaking his mind? Ok.

    Murphy letting it all happen, but yet removed the GM and Coach perceived to be problems. So which is it Tyler?

    Way to many references to people who won’t be named…

    The best part of this whole read is Ryan Grant. Not an unnamed source. He called it like it is. Athletes know that you don’t get perfect teammates when the best of the best get mixed together. What makes Rodgers great can also make him a dick. Grant was refreshing, unlike the usual blasts from Finley and Jennings, which are as self centered as the guy they’re trying to bag on.

    Seeing as your so interested in me that you have to give me nicknames, you must also know that I’ve said before I believe Rodgers was tanking the season, but you can never prove it enough to do anything about it. I also said it’s a put up or shut up year for him now that the coach and GM are gone.

    Color me not as interested as you are. I’m more interested in the teams performance in the fall. Your interest comes from years of bitterness. Maybe you and Rodgers have a lot in common?

  85. flviking says:
    April 4, 2019 at 3:40 pm
    All the packer fans who are in love with Rodgers, this is killing them. You can see it in their responses. You will see it in their responses to me. The man is selfish and could care less about green bay and their fans.
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Where are you getting that from?? I’m LOVING it. Love it. Love it because the trolls are foaming at the mouth and running off the cliff like lemmings. Rodgers is a competitive perfectionist, and I’ll take him over an apple-polishing “guarantee” that spews pap to calm the Viking fans in the face of failure, any day.

    And I’ll take any opinion of Rodgers over that of a Viking troll before you can open your mouth. Danica for one….read her take on Rodgers,

  86. purpleguy says:
    April 4, 2019 at 3:54 pm
    It’s just to easy to use this article as a basis for trolling as the linked report already does that. If this had been a report on internal Viking organization dysfunction, the same cheesers who are sanctimoniously chiming in above, some of whom have commented multiple times, would have burned up their keyboards roasting the Vikings and their fans.

    The point cheesers should lament is what could have been with their HOF QB, rather than gloating on division titles and one Super Bowl.

    The Packers have largely addressed the problems referenced in the article, with the exception of apparently Rodgers’ attitude and, more importantly, the slow moving bureaucratic structure that failed to recognize and act on the problem in the first place. But hey guys, if it makes you feel better pointing out that the Vikings have no Super Bowl wins, knock yourselves out.

    \\\\\

    I spend very little time trolling viking articles. Just not that interesting.

    Let me ask you a question,

    If you believe more needs to be done to deal with Rodgers, can you enlighten me to what was done with Jordan and Magic and others referenced in this story?

    Like Grant said,

    What makes Rodgers so good is part of what makes him unlikable. You can keep likable Cousins. I want a guy with an assassin’s mentality on the field. I don’t watch football to listen to the color commentator talk about what a nice guy my QB for my team is.

  87. purpleguy says:
    April 4, 2019 at 3:54 pm
    IThe point cheesers should lament is what could have been with their HOF QB, rather than gloating on division titles and one Super Bowl.
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    As I’ve made clear in the past, as a fan, for me, I don’t need them to win anything substantive ever again…….because they’ve given me so much already. Any future success is pure frosting.

    You wouldn’t understand. You couldn’t understand.

  88. So McCarthys message and playbook got stale. The QB was sabotaging and backstabbbing him. The guy knew he’d never win a power tug-of-war with the face of the franchise. So he checked out an byed his time til he got fired.

    See it all the time in this league.

    But the alarming part is Aaron’s self assuredness. So much so that he cut off his family. Starts a relief fund for the Forrest fires in his home town but doesn’t even call his mom who lives there to make sure she’s alive and okay.

    Aaron is the problem. McCarthys system made him. Now he’s gotta fly on his own, and possibly walk down a few of those scorched bridges.

  89. cheeseisfattening says:
    April 4, 2019 at 2:41 pm
    So Rodgers ran Jennings out of town like he ran Nelson out of town.

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    Except Nelson just was quoted as saying he would come out of retirement to play with Rodgers again. Sounds just like you say…

  90. pkrlvr says:
    April 4, 2019 at 3:05 pm
    Lot of underpants going to need changing in MN after this. The trolls are positively beside themselves.
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    (munches on popcorn) *hee hee hee, munch, munch*

  91. what very telling is not the individual stories that seem to be a tit for tat between reps/friends of Rodgers, the packers organization and McCarthy himself, but that fact that one of the winning est active coaches in the NFL couldnt find a job. when youve been in the NFL for 10 years, there is some one you know on every team. I think the between the word getting around about his habits and tape to watch on his play calling.. there is likely some truth to what is being said an McCarthy lost that locker room. You can say what you want about Rodgers but even though last season wasnt great for him, it still represents him as a top 5 QB, and if he plays better under his new coach it means the right decision was made.

  92. I don’t find this at all unbelievable.

    And I believe that Erwin Wadgers was also a first rate prima donna who required worship and was above improvement – and – his coach was an underwhelming, overrated buffoon.

    And now a word from our discount double check disaster, State Farm, where two good hands meet to fool you.

  93. I will say this, where there’s smoke, there’s almost always a fire. If MM was true to his initial proclamation when he got hired, this wouldn’t even be a thing. MM got paid and fell off, AR is right and doing the best he can to save face while calling the truth out. AR is smart, trying to understand the way he thinks is your best chances at the truth.

  94. Liberalsruineverything says:
    April 4, 2019 at 12:35 pm

    That’s why a real owner is needed instead of a beaurocracy. No accountability top to bottom.
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    Yes, like those well-run privately owned franchises in Arizona, Cincy, Dallas!, need I go on? You also have the high morale integrity of the owner of the world champions, Mr, Kraft! Lots of accountability there(snicker)

  95. Okay, so turns out the NFL is like a real job, in that if I was going to get massages during scheduled meetings and falling asleep in the ones I do attend, I too would get a pink slip….

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